WOMEN F*CK WHO THEY WANT, MEN F*CK WHO THEY CAN. Agree or Disagree?

[coachTanthony]

[EmbraceThePain]

I want to agree and disagree in part. I personally would not want to have sex with a woman I’m not attracted to and would rather be alone, potentially forever rather than be with someone I do not like. Now, women may have more options, especially online, but what exactly constitutes this pool of options? Well, for one, it’s men who primarily want to sleep with the woman and have nothing but casual relations with her, and two, it’s men who the woman might not find attractive. So, that leaves only a small percentage of men in this pool that a woman would want to have sex with and will stay with her for something long term. Now, this percentage of men is even smaller for women who aren’t very attractive. Women are picky, but incline towards relationships, whereas men are not picky, but incline towards non-committal relationships. Take a man and a woman online, who each get 100 of the opposite sex wanting to have sex with them. For the woman, there might be 1/4 of the men that she finds desirable, whereas the man might have 3/4 of the women there that he finds desirable.

[AndrewMG]

I had a housemate who I lived with in my first year of university who lived by that principle (his cringeworthy slogan was "every hole is a goal") , we all thought he was pretty much a bellend and he spent more time's visiting clinics than a medical centre auditor. He was very much in a minority so I'm going to err on the side of disagreeing.

[coachTanthony]

Every hole is a goal... never heard that before lol

[SueAnon84]

Disagree!

I haven't been able to EF my seventh grade crush like I had wanted to in the seventh grade!

And there's been plenty more examples where I got rejected for not just a relationship that I wanted but even for a booty call! ... So there goes YOUR theory! The people on here who agree are just delusional and are in denial of the very fact that guys have options too! Especially the good looking ones! People are going to be people! They are going to have biases big and small, unreasonable or reasonable! It really doesn't depend on the gender!.. Thanks for the question anyway!

I was like this guy whenever my 7th grade crush was around!

[Hunter7754]

Guys actually don't choose. We have the illusion of choice itself but we don't actually choose.

[Iron_Man200]

Women have more options and are far more likely to get laid if they want to, which is why men get rejected repeatedly.

[SueAnon84]

@Hunter7754 What do you (a 25 year old) actually know about life lol!

[SueAnon84]

@Iron_Man200 Since when are you Mr. Know it All! Are you speaking for ALL women in the world? ! Lol!

[Iron_Man200]

Because anybody with even half a brain knows that in general it's a lot easier for a woman to get laid than it is for a man.

[SueAnon84]

@Iron_Man200 No! Who ever said that was just playing the victim mentality!.. And it's called being a sexist person! It's just a biased thing! Trust me, I've seen some ugly dudes get laid and even reproduce! I work in Customer Service so I know what I am talking about. I come into contact with your average Joe and Jane constantly!

[Iron_Man200]

Then you're either a liar or are delusional. If a man goes on a dating site and puts on his profile that he's looking for sex, he'll be lucky to get just 1 message a week. But if an average looking woman went on a dating site and said in her profile that she's looking for sex, she's gonna get tons of messages every day. People have known this for thousands of years. It's shocking how dumb and deluded women are these days that they will deny the obvious.

[Hunter7754]

If you honestly think dating is the exact same for men as it is for women, try this. Create a tinder account as a girl then create one as a guy and compare the amount of messages you get. Multiple people have done this experiment and every time, the girl is the one that gets hundreds of messages. And considering I have dated, I know what I'm talking about. I went through at-least 20-30 girls before I actually found the girl I'm dating now. Most guys go through 50+ women till they finally find someone to date. Dating for men is 90% rejection and 10% success which means we have to give it 300%. Its practically a full time job. It's one of the reasons why many men stay in shitty relationships. We don't have the option to just find another person willy nilly. A girl can go on tinder and usually within the first day, she'll have guys messaging her. Also, not sure why you're being so rude, I'm just simply pointing out that dating for men is much different than dating for girls. And what I said about men not choosing women is true and backed up by anthropology. Look at most animal species. The males compete with each other and try to win over the female and impress her. The female CHOOSES which male she wants to mate with. So in that regard, men do not actually choose. We have the illusion of choice.

[Iron_Man200]

@Hunter7754 She won't admit it because she doesn't want to acknowledge that women have it easier when it comes to dating. Women hate admitting that they have something easier than men.

[SueAnon84]

@Iron_Man200 "She won't admit it because she doesn't want to acknowledge that women have it easier when it comes to dating. Women hate admitting that they have something easier than men." Maybe my experience has been different that's all! That doesn't make me delusional and a so called liar! ... I think this more depends on the age of the woman! A woman in her younger days can definitely have more options when it comes to choosing a partner but I think maybe when time goes on, she'll either have to choose from bad quality men! The ones that are pyscho, or divorced, or a single parent! ... And most (NORMAL and MATURED) people aren't just looking for sex, they are also looking for a relationship so that they can spread their genes (reproduce) and have a family! I know this because I work with the public and I see it all the time! Even ugly guys have families! ... Just because we disagree on something doesn't make my answer less true! ... That is the problem with people arguing against their personal biases and with your answer, you are speaking like it's the absolute truth! ... Did you even know about the phrase "exception to the rule"! Maybe my life is that way! Anyway, we are getting quite personal here so...

[SueAnon84]

@Hunter7754 You know it's funny, I do agree with the anthropology thing a little because I did study it. However, there ARE some species where it's the other way around! ... What about bees? ! They have a so called "Queen Bee" and so do ants! ... https://www. youtube. com/watch? v=CSGDIaxJj14 in this particular case, it wasn't true either..

[Kkaos]

@Hunter7754 Unless you're literally prepared to settle for whatever comes your way, you're still choosing as a man though. I approach a girl. I choose her as the one I'm going to approach. She then chooses if she wants me or not. We've both made a mutual choice.

[Hunter7754]

@Kkaos Men have the ILLUSION of choice. Even if you're choosing to approach a woman, in the end, she is the one that chooses you. She's the one that decides whether or not to accept your advances. So in that regard, the idea of 'choice' is nothing but an illusion. Women are the ones with options because men are the ones that approach women, not vice versa.

[Kkaos]

@Hunter7754 That implies that men never reject women and women can have whoever they want. The man a woman might "choose" might never even approach her because he hasn't "chosen" her.

[Iron_Man200]

@Kkaos He's not saying that men never reject women, you stupid ass clown, he's just saying that women in general have more options and find it a lot easier to get laid than what a man does.

[Kkaos]

@Iron_Man200 Let's have a little look again shall we? "Guys actually don't choose" "She's the one that decides whether or not to accept your advances" "Women are the ones with options because men are the ones that approach women, not vice versa." He is talking in absolutes. "he's just saying that women in general have more options and find it a lot easier to get laid than what a man does." <-- Absolute bullshit. What you've said there is true, but that is NOT what he is saying. Men have a choice on who they approach and women have a choice on who they choose from out of the men who have chosen them. Simple as that. So please explain how I'm a "stupid clown" for simply going off word for word on what he's saying whilst you've had to completely twist what he's said in order to sound reasonable and valid.

[Hunter7754]

@Kkaos Ironman actually hit the nail on the head. Saying women are the ones that do the choosing doesn't mean women NEVER get rejected. Its pointing out how as a general rule, women have more options than men. Much more. And what I've said is backed up by anthropology. If you look at most animal species, it's the female that chooses the mate, not the other way around. It's the entire reason as to why male species of animals tend to be much more colorful. Its one of the ways they help attract a mate. Also there's a difference between absolutes vs general statements. An absolute would be me saying "Women never ever ever get rejected at all". A general statement would be me saying "Women are the ones that choose, not men". The only time it really becomes absolute is if I insert the words 'always' or 'never' which I didn't do. Nuance exists and there's always an exception to the rule but an exception to the rule doesn't negate a general statement.

[Iron_Man200]

@Kkaos Yo're too stupid to waste my time on.

[SueAnon84]

@Iron_Man200 and @Hunter7754 1. Why are you guys being bitches on here? ! Don't you have a conscience? ! 2. People can agree to disagree right? ! What about people's personal experiences? ! 3 If what you say is really true, then I could have basically chosen the guys I truly wanted when I was young! But that wasn't the case! At least not in my situation! 4 I've actually approached guys in the past and flirted with them and got rejected! And I consider myself at least a 7/10! Think a fatter and "uglier" version of Goo Hara! 5 You guy are just trying to turn your argument around to make your answer make more sense!

[SueAnon84]

guys I mean!

[Hunter7754]

Personal experience doesn't trump observed reality and things that are backed up by biology/anthropology. We do not base general conclusions off of exceptions. Exceptions are just that, they're exceptions to the rule. They do not negate the general rule though.

[Kkaos]

@Hunter7754 I have clearly established that a man chooses who he intends to approach. That is not an illusion nor have you made an attempt to explain how it is an illusion. Saying men don't have a choice, is not the same as saying women have more options. Maybe you and this "Iron_Man200" specimen consider yourselves to be incredibly unattractive and are ready and waiting for any woman who "chooses" you. However I've never met a man that had zero standards and I've never met a man who did not make a conscious decision to be with a woman.

[Kkaos]

@Iron_Man200 Haha. Yep. So you started it, I dictate simple facts and now pull out with another baseless insult because you can't even string 2 brain cells together and actually explain what I've said that is not correct. You're an embarrassment.

[Hunter7754]

@Kkaos Choosing who to approach is not the same as choosing someone because in the end, the woman has the final say. Therefore she is the one that makes the final choice, thus she is the one that chooses the man. You might have a point if women asking out men was the norm. But it's not. Women expect men to make the first move and much of the legwork regarding dating. "Maybe you and this "Iron_Man200" specimen consider yourselves to be incredibly unattractive and are ready and waiting for any woman who "chooses" you. " The women I have dated CHOSE me, not the other way around. I expressed interest, and they accepted my invitation hence, they CHOSE me. When it comes to dating, the guy sends a hypothetical invitation to the woman. She can choose to accept or reject the offer. She is making a choice. So in that regard, women choose men, not the other way around. I dont really see us changing each other's mind anytime soon so I'll just agree to disagree with you friend.

[Kkaos]

@Hunter7754 Yes, you expressed interest because you chose her :) She might have the final say, but she's only in the position to make a choice once you've made a choice. Relationships are mutual man. Just like marriage. If I choose to marry a woman, I will then ask her and she chooses yes or no. Either way I think we agree with the same points, it's just what defines "choice" that's differing. But it doesn't really matter.

[Iron_Man200]

@Hunter7754 Fuckwit

[Iron_Man200]

Stupid ass clown

[purplepoppy]

Disagree. There are plenty of women who men won't fuck or would need a lot of drink first.

[FunkyMonkee]

Yeah, a scant few but, in general, a girl just has to be available to a guy and she can pretty much have her pick! If a guy is likewise, most girls will ignore him or completely blow him off!!

[crazy8000]

Most likely suffers from attitude problems on the inside how he perceives himself and others.

[Mandycandy42]

For the most part yes, if she's attractive gets tons of attention, which isn't a blessing but more of a curse. Makes it harder to make actual friends, many of the guys are nauseating and not attracted to them, the ones who are and I am into, can be rude or pushy. But the ones who are attractive, nice and have good attitudes its usually easy to get in bed with them

[nomadia]

I firmly believe that. Based on my experience, being a beautiful confident and educated woman and based on the amount of attention I get I would say women who possess all these qualities and more have the opportunity to fuck whom ever they want.

[toastygoblins]

Yet when such a women is more sexually promiscuous, are the more successful and better looking men going to choose to marry the more sexually promiscuous or less sexually promiscuous? I feel like women tend to waste their younger years with more beauty sleeping around then wonder why in their 30s or 40s that they cannot find a good man. That's because good women especially tend to marry young and successful men tend to look for the younger women.

[Djaay]

Stop flattering yourself. Men aren't that shallow. And stop glorifying those bi--gay fuckboys.

[TonyBologna25]

You’re merely average looking. Possessing a bachelors is not that impressive. The arrogance you have is really unattractive. Your bio says naturally intelligent lol. I work in the engineering field, and even my coworkers don’t talk the way you do. It seems like you’re overcompensating.

[nomadia]

@TonyBologna25 I can see honesty is has really offended u. But my answer is based on where I'm from. I'm not saying all men are like that. I live on an island and the population here is is even equivalent to 1% of the world's population. Whoever tale offence... guess what... that's your problem. Like I said that's just where I'm from

[TonyBologna25]

I’m not offended by you lol

[haymitch1]

@toastgoblins why do young men dont marry?

[aWes0MeNeSs]

It probably depends on the person. I know some pretty desperate people of both sexes who will just take what they can get even if it isn't what they actually want.

[Rocky_Jocky57]

Depends on how attractive the person is.

[SpacedCharr]

Are men really that easy? That's... Fucked up. Dudes, you're more valuable than that.

[Randomawkwardness]

I think it's dependent on the person and isn't just a gender vs gender. An attractive man could easily bed thousands of women while a very unattractive girl might stay a virgin her whole life and vice versa.

[Iron_Man200]

Bullshit

[Randomawkwardness]

How so?

[Iron_Man200]

Because I've come across many attractive men throughout my life who still struggled to get laid. Doesn't matter how good looking a man is, if he's shy and lacks confidence, he's gonna have a hard time getting laid. Whereas women, even average looking women, can easily get laid.

[Randomawkwardness]

Attractiveness depends on the person, however most people find confidence a main factor in attractiveness. It's fine if you don't agree but don't act like attractive men can't get laid when they can. Someone attractive is going to obviously have a better chance than an unattractive person.

[Iron_Man200]

I never said attractive men can't get laid. You're another woman that has completely twisted what I said. Let me repeated myself. The point I'm making is that it's much easier for women, in general, to get laid than it is for men to get laid.

[Hunter7754]

Confidence really only matters to women. Men dont care about things like social status, charisma, etc.

[Iron_Man200]

@Hunter7754 I've never understood that. Even good looking men will usually get rejected if they lack confidence, but a unattractive man will often get the woman if he's confidence. But as a man I couldn't give a fuck if a woman is confident. If I find her physically attractive I'm going to be interested.

[Kkaos]

Thing is most women either don't have the confidence to make a move themselves or they simply choose not to because of their ego. That's why the not so confident attractive man would fail in many cases. Although every now and then you'll get confident women who approach, but that's rare unless the man is a celebrity, in which case he's probably confident already so it doesn't matter.

[MzAsh]

Generally agree

[SportsNerd]

WTF?

[MzAsh]

Yeah. Women in general have more of an abundance of interested options to selected from at any given moment than men do.

[SportsNerd]

Not really Men can change it any moment And most of those men that want to have sex with us are actually virgins

[SportsNerd]

Men who are really men know that there more important things then sex

[MzAsh]

Yeah but all that is entirely beside the point that men have to work harder and wait longer for sex than women do.

[SportsNerd]

If a man knows how to play the game Not really

[MzAsh]

Which is very few

[Hunter7754]

Nah I'm gonna agree with MzAsh here. "Men who are really men know that there more important things then sex" Hate to break it to you but all of us are driven by our primal desire for sex and reproduction. Any man that denies this is just lying to make it seem like he's not a pig.

[Robertcw]

@MzAsh That's because you don't teach them. It's like a conspiracy against doing that.

[ActiveSh1tter]

@SportsNerd who the fuck gave you the license to define what a real man is? If a guy tells you sex is not important he's not a man, he's a castrated cuck who repeats whatever you tell him.

[SportsNerd]

@Hunter7754 You are an idiot who doesn't understand what i said

[SportsNerd]

@ActiveSh1tter You are just pathetic

[ActiveSh1tter]

@SportsNerd a real woman gives her husband sex any time he asks for it.

[Hunter7754]

@SportsNerd I understand what you said, I'm just explaining why its not true.

[SportsNerd]

You are really dumb I didn't said sex is not needed I said there are more important qualities like The personality of a person What kind of person is

[ActiveSh1tter]

@SportsNerd sex is not important for women. That's biology. It's how their brains evolved. But sex is very important for men. That's also biology. If it was unimportant to both men and women then reproduction wouldn't happen and humans would be extinct. If you don't provide your husband with sex at least 4 times a week then you don't love him because you don't care about his needs. You'll just think "Ah well sex isn't important to me, therefore it shouldn't be important to him either and if he says otherwise then he's disgusting." It means only your needs are important to you, not his.

[SportsNerd]

I'm not saying that sex is not important idiot I'm saying that there are other things more important

[ActiveSh1tter]

@SportsNerd that's just another way of saying it's not important. Sex is certainly 1000 times more important to men than it is to women.

[Sammy6Gunz]

To some certain extent I agree but there are those cases with some guys that it is vice versa with. Yes the majority of the time fame and wealth have a certain allure but in the rare cases their are some guys that can just walk into a bar and do exactly that, f##k whoever they want to. It's all about being comfortable in your skin, knowing what you want, how you want, when you want and being able to stand out in the crowd by just being yourself. I'd love to say that it's not that hard to do but judging by what many of us see in clubs and bars... it's pretty difficult apparently.

[amandaluv]

I want to fuck Chris hemsworth but he wouldn't fuck me so disagree !

[morrowlow]

awww

[Big-A]

One way to know for sure.

[morrowlow]

it is true. Chris Hemsworth won't fuck you but that doesn't mean you can't fantasize fucking him. so here are two pictures for you to have fun with

[amandaluv]

my king

[Big-A]

It's funny all you idiots in here seriously think you have a Psychology Degree and shit like you know what you are talking about.

[centerline]

its my opinion that monogamy is over rated... women and men alike, do not want to think of themselves as promiscuous, but at their core, they are... everyone, even in a long term relationship has fantasies about other people, whether they admit it or not... kind of like masturbation.

I an NOT saying that people dont want to spend their life together with the love of their life, but the experience of sex itself is just to great to not think about it with others in mind... the same ol' same 'ol sex ALL the time gets old, and a new partner for just one night can change the sex up to a new and exciting experience for a few months to come with their same 'ol-same 'ol partner... if two people really love one another, but the sex life is boring, why not experience sex from another source?

[Rin_Chan_]

uh... disagree... a few reasons... I'll share some...
um... if you uh... mean like even under aged ones such as myself... then... uh no.
uh... what if their already seeing someone? you uh... can't just kick the other person out of the way. that would make you a douche bag! uh... thats all... uh... nice meeting you! 😊

[coachTanthony]

Nice to meet you too!

[BlackRoseFairy]

Coach are you OK? 🤔

[coachTanthony]

Probably not lol

[BlackRoseFairy]

Lol. Yeah, that came over a little too aggressive, even for you...

[coachTanthony]

People stir the pot... I am just the spoon!

[BlackRoseFairy]

When you put it that way... You have a point I guess

[ZackBan]

In general yes but it differs from woman to woman, also from man to man.
Many women have a smaller pool of guys to chose from, sometimes they're left with only the desperate guys who no one would even touch.
In similar fashion, a lot of rich good looking men get to pick and chose and the majority of women wouldn't turn them down.
So it's really more about your levels of attractiveness and social skills, plus wealth.
The problem is men are generally more desperately horny then women and would never turn down a good shag.

[SkipStop]

Oh there is a lot of truth to that. Unless the guy is rich. There are exceptions of course. Not all guys are desperate. It's a myth that guys think about sex 24/7.

[coachTanthony]

True it's like 22/7

[ImSparkly]

I had to wait three years to get a DILF I wanted so no.

[coachTanthony]

LOL Dilf

[FunkyMonkee]

Okay but, you're talking about a SPECIFIC guy! I'm pretty sure coach means, if you were in a room full of guys you could take pretty much any one you wanted!

[ImSparkly]

I could, but the question is would I want them? It’s like buying a new car and none of the models on the dealers lot interests you, so you either settle or wait. I’m just as patient to wait for what I want.

[ImSparkly]

So why can’t guys wait too?

[Boppy]

I think the model being pushed is that women have so many options they can wait around for one they like, but guys will have far fewer options, so don't get to think about their own feelings as much. (I somewhat agree, personally I've only been asked out around 4 times (2 were guys though) but I'm still holding off until I find someone I like and who likes me back.)

[Boppy]

dilf dilf dilf

[FunkyMonkee]

Yeah, me, too.

[Zealashton]

I am a product of a whore/ slut. And my life future was ruined. Now I live know that I am just waitng for death alone, sad depressed. Staying alive cus too fucking lazy, and also I find peoples suffing from stupiedity to be amusing. I lesson to crazy sjws, cry on videos. It help me sleep at night. Lessoning to there suffering

[toastygoblins]

Slightly true in that men place less emphasis on mate selection. I think it's important to note that the same guy who accepts girls who are too easy to be laid, will probably prefer the less sexually promiscuous woman when it comes to marriage.

[RolandCuthbert]

Maybe when I was young I bought into that stuff. Now that I am old I know it is not true. Women have their crushes and chase after guys. They just do it differently. When I was young, I couldn't tell if a woman liked me. I just didn't have the game to do the dance. Now I know the whole "ritual". It is easy to see the women who are attracted to me and who are not. It is even easy to see how to gain the attraction of a lady who may not be interested. And I "choose" who I will date and who I will not. Sometimes it is hard putting women down. Because I know the feeling. But sometimes, it is nice to have a lady who you are not attracted to around, because it is nice to have a lady on your arm when I go out. I know I was wrong for that and I don't do that anymore.

[AndyOh]

For women, it's like shootin' fish in a barrel.
Just show a little leg and cleavage and you just pick who you want, cause guys want it.

For men, it is like finding a needle in a haystack.
Of course it does depends on how much 'Love' he has in his wallet. Looks help too.

[the_bruh]

In my opinion , No. I would never let a random girl/woman f*ck me. And don't look at women like you've never seen one before, the more you ignore them the more interested they'll be. Trust me😜

[crazy8000]

Pretty amusing how that really works 😂