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Lol downvote all you want. That's not gonna prove anything
@Aiko_E_Lara that’s not true, it is the proof that many people don’t agree with it. You’re entitled to your own opinion, not your own truth.
@Boromir One does not simply say it's not true and invalidates someone. Oh it's just boobs. Well how about we take off our pants. It's just dicks.
@Aiko_E_Lara again, wrong, the thing in my pants is a dick, on the other gender that’s a vagina, I fail to see the comparison with boobs / chest.
@Boromir So you failed to see the comparison of men and women's boobs and you admitted it. And you can't normally see a girl who gets turned on by men's boobs.
@Boromir Look here. I said they can do it but it's not men's fault why they get turned on by it. Simple as that.
If you think the boobs isn't really a sexual part then consider girls getting outraged if they get gropped there. The "teach men not to rape" BS while they can freely whore around, when it is already against the law for touching a girl's boobs unlike vice versa. So how hard is it to cover? Probably how hard it is not to get turned on my it? Our boners can't lie.
@Aiko_E_Lara no, _your_ boner does not lie. I can walk on a beach and see more tits around me in real life than you have seen and I won’t get a boner from it. Not because I’m not interested in women sexually but because I can see the contextual difference you can’t see. In my book that makes me a more developed and civilized person.
@Boromir "Our boners can't lie." I said that one and it happens when with raging hormones when we see boobs so we can't hide it forever. You can speak for yourself if that won't really arouse you but it's not our fault guys have high sex drive generally speaking. So you wanna justify girls taking their bras and shirt off? Fine! Lets also take away the law about groping their boobs or lets just make it more acceptable just like how girls can just grop guy's boobs or dicks while getting away with it.
@Aiko_E_Lara why do you allow yourself the justification that it’s somehow defendable / understandable to grope a girl because you can see her boob in front of you? Groping is groping, with a layer of textile or not. Are you not human enough that you can see a butt naked lady in front of you without getting into the temptation to grope her or violate her? What are you? A breeding horse?
@Boromir I'm not saying I will do it but as there are many guys in the world not just me, chances are it will happen. Do you not know what precaution is? "What are you? A breeding horse?" close to that because we are also animals and biological as well. Not just breeding horse but we're breeding humans. Same goes for breeding primates. Don't act like we're mechanical ATM robots just because we live in a civilized world.
@Boromir You know it's double standards enough it you don't want me to justify gropping as acceptable because you justify it should be acceptable for girls to be topless even though a lot of girls gets uncomfortable with it and a lot of guys gets turned on with it even if they hide it because basic biology. It's also double standards enough that when a girl grop a guys boobs, cops don't chase them even if we men complain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect
Also tvtropes.org/.../MenAreGenericWomenAreSpecialFact: Women can wear suits, pants and jeans without getting shamed. Most of men's outfit are unisex. Men can't wear blouses, skirts and dresses without getting shamed.
All that for going completely topless. BS
Yeah I get it I know what your thinking. Being completely topless is a guys and it's unfair thing but here's something for you. Wearing bras is a girl thing FYI so it still goes both ways.
@Aiko_E_Lara Did anyone ever mention that you talk a lot? :-) Peace ! I think girls can be topless if they feel like it and you think they can’t. Fine, discussion closed.
@Boromir Sure. Also because I made a lot of point. So? Why would "talking a lot" invalidate everything I said? Focusing on me talking a lot instead of the main topic here. Is that all you can do? Nice try dodging everything. "! I think girls can be topless if they feel like it and you think they can’t." <-- Science vs feelings. I don't think. I go with facts.
@Aiko_E_Lara Nice try, I never saw any really facts or scientifically proven behavior. I saw different cultures, including western ones where women _can_ walk around topless if they wish so without being groped or whistled at. You can throw in as much pseudo science and personal inventions as you wish.
@Boromir Because you chose to ignore it or you're just ignorant that's why you never saw it. "so without being groped or whistled at." Also it's the same culture where if men gets turned on by it, society don't tolerate them. And you know I already did presented pseudo science because I'm not appealing to emotions. You know like argumentum ad ignorantiam.
@Boromir "Fine, discussion closed." A quote from you. You know what's funny tho, When you tried to dismiss argument for how "talkative" I am instead focusing on the actual discussion here. Also like you just wanna end things like that but you came back anyways not knowing how to eat your words. Way to prove you just don't know what you're saying.
Why does that matter? Literally the only women who CAN raise their shirts in public are women who beast-feed. There's laws protecting them in certain states.Also: men can lactate too.
Haven’t yet lactated but I’ll let you know if that happens