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Why do girls make it hard for guys by indulging in their rape-ish fantasies, in the face of #metoo how can you feel OK with these desires?

So there’s a girl I like. She likes me more than I like her. But she does something most girls I’ve been with do. She pretends she doesn’t want me, to make me FORCE her to kiss me or do other intimate things.

For example, we were kissing. But before we were making out, she was making it hard for me to kiss her. She pretended like she didn’t want me to kiss her. She avoids my eyes and looks away and plays hard to get. So I have to just grab her, take her chin with my hand, and make her kiss me.

Of course that’s exactly what she wanted. And she kisses me more eagerly and hungrily than I do her. Like I said, she likes me more than I like her.

I know it’s because a lot of girls like to feel submissive. This girl in particular has rape fantasy, and so do nearly all the girls I’ve dated in the past. And that’s a part of why she does these things. She wants the man to force her. It is part of what turns her and many other girls on.

But this is modern day society. Girls expect guys to basically become rapists. To force girls to do things when men are not allowed by law to force you. You put us at risk for punishment for doing things you want us to do. You crave being forced, held down against your will. Sure you like that man. You may have a huge crush on him and be madly in love. Yet you put him at risk so you can get your little sexual fantasies satisfied.

And a ton of girls are like this. Many girls do not become interested in a man unless he displays in some social setting, the ability to be that man. To be that man who is willing to be aggressive and “force” a girl to kiss him or have sex with him. I’ve had girls lose interest in me because I decided to not show them I am capable of it. And when I pretend like I don’t know how to be forceful with girls, they lose interest. When I show them I am, they become very interested.

Girls are very horny and they often want to be forced. They expect us guys to become mini rapists for their own pleasure. Why?
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Most Helpful Guys

  • It's a fact that most women have a rape fantasy on some level. Studies have shown that is true. But that doesn't mean they actually want to be raped. They just want to be overpowered or manhandled by a man, consensually.

    It sounds to me like you are either seeing what you want to see in women, or this woman you're describing is fucked up. or both. Either way, I think you better get it sorted out or you're going to find yourself in jail.

    • all rapists are men

  • I've not associated with girls like this. Still, if you don't want to be at risk then don't play the game. Nobody is forcing you to comply with this bullshit. Make it clear that you won't. If you think that you can't get laid without acting like a rapist, well that's just false.

    • “Girls like this.” I think the overwhelming majority are like this. But society has trained us to believe that a woman into this is bad. I don’t know. I can’t say. But I used to be a loner. I used to be very shy with women. I learned to be confident and I learned to flirt and date women. It seems to me that MOST girls are like this. Some choose to hide it, due to the shame society puts on this rape-ish fantasy. You have just shamed them, and put them in a category which I imagine you separate these females into the “unhealthy and bad female” category. But I believe most women are like this. I don’t care about getting in trouble. I will not. What I want to know goes beyond just this question. There’s a bigger picture I am trying to understand so the question is not for my own safety. It’s to better understand for myself the nature of female sexuality and how it plays out in society.

    • I’ve flirted with many girls personally, who hide this rape-ish fantasy from every guy until he displays to her that he understands and will not shame nor hate her for it. Many girls are like this. They hide it due to shame and hate from people like you who believe they are somehow bad or lesser or damaged or facing daddy issues. But most girls are totally like this. They hide it so you won’t know, so you won’t become angry and hateful to women. They hide it until you show you understand it. Then they are flirting like crazy because they love a man who knows and does not get upset, rather embraces it. I’ve embraced it and it has changed my dating world around 100% I just want to know more of why it’s shamed, why we believe all these things we do. Why a lot of questions. I want to know a lot of things that I don’t think I can just google lol.

    • I disagree, my friend. This is not most girls, not even close.

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  • Sounds like you're hanging around the wrong types of girls. Trust me, majority of women do not want to be raped, that's mental

    • In my experience most women like to be submissive and have the man be dominant. What is wrong with these women? And why does society hate them?

    • Because I love them and accept them as they are. So I am asking why Does society shame women for their sexuality? And I also think it’s silly to say it’s rare. It’s extremely common.

    • Personally I believe society hates women and needs to have its perspective changed. Even women hate themselves for their own sexuality.

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  • Again, one girl. And she doesn't want this with you. Ever.

    • This stuff is super common. Tons of girls are into it. And with this girl in particular, I’ve indulged her rape fantasies and say dirty things to her. She loves it. Same with my ex wife. Who wanted me to rape her. But since I was just a normal guy with no understanding of women’s sexuality, I never did it. Lots of girls have these fantasies and they expect men to act on them. If that’s not you, than that’s not you. No need to get upset about it. But it’s very common. Don’t act like it’s some small percentage of women. If you ask me it’s most of them.

    • And you didn’t even read my post. I’m not talking about the actual act of rape. I’m asking why they want you to force them to kiss you and other small things that go on during the courting process.

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  • You seem to be a tad too much into this "she fantasizes about getting raped" thing...

    • I never was until I got closer to women and got to know them better. Now I’ve got tons of female friends and I hear all the stuff they like. Being dominated by men sexually is a big one. It was coming to the understanding that women love being dominated sexually that even allowed me to stop being a lonely loser and start actually flirting and getting close with women. I see it more like a fact of reality now. They will deny it until they are blue in the face. My female friends I do have did deny it when they didn’t know me as well. But now that they know me and we are so much closer I learned all kinds of things. And that’s why I’m so confused. Because I see women in private and what they really like. But in public is shameful and bad. Woman who wants to be dominated must have daddy issues or some other problems. So I’m just trying to figure out the truth. Is it true? These women are just bad or damaged people? Or is it just a fact of life that a large chunk of the female population likes to be dominated and even have rape fantasies. Hell, some women go out to BE RAPED on purpose. But it seems to me like society demonizes these women. Mepersonally it’s accepting and embracing them as they are that has brought me so much closer to women. I want to know why society shames them for their nature. If that’s their nature. Maybe it’s not, I don’t know. But it certainly seems like it. So I want to know if society is demonizing it for good reason or not.

    • Simply said, I think it depends on the kind of people you frequent. I am always around my fiancée's girl friends and they never expressed such desires - quite the contrary, they often watch horror/gore movies where women are the killers/aggressors all together and such, and love to make fun or tease me for how impressionable I am. All the other women I know and that I have seen in private didn't have neither this preference or the one you described, they are normal persons. So I think that you, like me, are hanging around a bunch of very particular - or let's be honest, perverse - people with a very specific perversion. It's not the norm and it's not healthy, I'd suggest to distance those women as soon as you can.

    • Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe your fiancé craves being dominated but she doesn’t tell you for fear of being shamed. As all women do in my experience. None of my friends wanted to reveal this stuff to me. They only did because I made it very well known that I was accepting of it. Only then did the truth come out.

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  • You are ridiculous.

    • Why do you hate women who have these kinds of fantasies? And why do you view these women as lesser? Why is it, that in real life I have embraced women and accepted them, that they become my friends and they really love me and are honest with me. Why is it that when I talk about this subject, women on the internet get mad and assume I’m a bad person? I love women and I accept their submissive rape-ish fantasies. I’ve seen in my life, in real life, that most girls are like this. Yet even you shame women for being like this. Even you hate women for this. You say I am ridiculous. Because you do not agree. You believe rape fantasy is bad and women with it are bad.

    • Pls make me a summary of those paragraphs of at most 5 lines 🤦‍♀️

    • What does that mean? I’m not some woman hating MGTOW. I want to know more but you’re being sarcastic. I wish to know more about women and learn to love them more. Sorry for it firing the mgtow stereotype but I wish you wouldn’t treat me like one.

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  • Mmmm i think forced is a dangerous word to use there. coerced and pressured i can see, as im a submissive myself and i find that quite hot, but literally given no option to refuse? No, I think you're going to wind up seriously hurting someone with your current mindset.

  • women dont like get raped but men do

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