IMPORTANT SURVEY! One legal age group for consensual sex in your State will change based on new comprehensive sex education... what is your vote?

[laurieluvsit]

One minimum age will be selected based on the following sex education courses taken, successfully passed and certificates issued...

1) Proper birth control methods
2) Sexually transmitted diseases - What they are and how to avoid them
3) Sexual peer pressure - What it is and how to avoid it
4) Raising a child from 0 to 18 - There's more to it than you think
5) Real Sex from A-Z - Proper methods, various positions, sexual lifestyles, what are fetishes, and more
6) Sexual Trust - Who to Trust, who not to trust and the issues involved
7) From conception to the birth of a child in graphic detail
8 ) Celibacy - Why that may be your choice and how to maintain it
9) Emotional aspects of sex

(feel free to add any others in your comments that you think should be given)

PREMISE BASED ON REALITY, NOT ON WISHFUL THINKING: We all know that not everyone waits until full adulthood to engage in sexual activity. The above courses have been completed successfully and a completion certificate has been received for each course. Ages now, without any course completion certificate requirements or training of any kind, in US States, vary from 16 to 18 years of age for legal consensual sex, with most being 18.

A State wide survey is taken to determine what a new law for minimum legal age of consent should be based on the new State educational certificate system.

On the survey the Age for those not successfully completing all required courses and having received a certificate will remain at the current State minimum.

The age for those who have successfully completed all courses is the main focus of the survey. In addition to selecting the age allowable for consensual sex, the survey would also provide for no age above 17 allowable between sex partners until both have reached 18 at which time the certificate program no longer applies. So no adults will be involved in the survey, or the bill when it is voted on.

Here are the survey choices. Which do you choose?

[normalice]

The problem is then the "pro life" men of the world, who are still insecure about how much ass they didn't get in high school, will then cite religious reasons to refuse to let their daughters take these courses (and, as always, complain about the cost of public education), so that no one could legally have sex, anyway.

But in general I think the curriculum you outlined would be a good idea for all post-adolescent ages. Even some people in their 40s have immature ideas about sex. However, I would add that the "who to trust" thing is a little sketchy. If you teach guys who girls can trust, it will not take long before the guys discover they can just pretend to be that person to increase their chances of getting what they want. Plus, with older men no doubt having some control over the curriculum, it's a safe bet to say that at some point some principle, preacher, or teacher is going to try to slip their own self-description into the "who to trust" criteria. Birth control methods and sexual peer pressure is probably sufficient, to be honest. The child raising is more a home economics course, which is a good idea. STDs is more relevant to health in general, also a food idea. Emotional aspects are more a psychology thing, which I guess is fine. Celibacy falls in with peer pressure. And as for sexual training, that may be the sort of thing you'd have to be very careful teaching. It would have to be text only - no illustrative picture. Or it could quickly become pornographic.

All that said, I don't think the minimum age does what it's supposed to do, in general. Be it sexist or completely rational or both, the main reason for it is to prevent older guys from taking advantage of younger girls - I think it's important to be honest about that to more finely craft laws for that purpose. We can just say whatever results also applies to older women without much in the way of problems.

But naivete can occur at any age - no one is ever fully protected from being conned. Nothing magical happens on an 18th birthday that suddenly enables a girl to identify a sexual predator when they see one. And the emotional vulnerability of a girl doesn't suddenly disappear on that day, either. Nor does the firmness of her youthful body. Nor does her clumsy energy. In short, to an older man who preys on younger women, an 18 year old is going to satisfy his hunger for destruction just as well as a 17 year old would. So, in that regard, the law means very little. But even so, I think it's important to have the law just as some discouragement for older men. It has little to do with younger people being allowed to have sex - it has everything to do with older people being allowed to have sex with younger people. And while it theoretically can happen in a healthy way, it is also true that it often doesn't. Maybe the curriculum you've outlined could help with that, though..

[Jjpayne]

I Think those are great and important things to learn. Part of my worry is they would be scared to have sex altogether but I'm glad that they are pushing learning these things because they should be taught to understand the seriousness of sex and it's effects on your life

[laurieluvsit]

Totally, Yes!

[Jjpayne]

Thank you for the MHO! :)

[CarpetDenim]

16 is already the state minimum for my state and we have an extremely comprehensive sex education course. I think 16 is a good age, any younger than that is just too soon.

[Bootylicious905]

Perverts like @ Normalice would have you want lower sex age to sleep with them.

[DizzyDesii]

18-21 sounds good to me

[ZackBan]

Honestly if it were up to me I'd teach kids about sex even before puberty.
I know most therapists would disagree saying a child might be traumatized by the idea well I'm not saying I'd show him how it's done in detail but I'd ease him into it so when a child hits puberty he/she will not find sex to be a new life changing concept like I did but instead will go along with it normally.
But for that to work the entire community need to apply it so that we don't get a kid who's way ahead of his peers in terms of sexual experience

[reptocarl]

I still think it needs to stay at 18 everywhere. You can teach ABC’s but you can’t teach maturity. It’s a big maturity difference between 16 and 18

[MackToday]

I'm sure some will approve strongly.

[COMMODOREII]

I would need a full scientific panel to research this as not every state is accurate.

[Juxtapose]

16 works in the U. K, but eh, I don't have a stake in this.

[NightOwl8801]

Anything younger than sixteen would be bad , too immature and not very responsible.

[Guardian45]

I don't live in the US. Where I grew up a girl could marry at 12, a boy at 16, drive at 16, vote at 18, drink and use cannabis at 21.

[Guardian45]

Parents killed a major overhaul of sex education system.

[Guardian45]

What does that tell you?

[emperor90]

because at 16 you considered an adult

[Exorcist_Rampage]

People need to be educated on sex from a Biblical view and not a secular governmental view. Sex is best and proven to be most enjoyable within marriage and allowing for the potential for procreation. Seculars hate hearing this but there is evidence Christians have the best sex.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-are-christians-having-better-sex-than-the-rest-of-us

[manmeat]

should not be allowed to have sex untill earning more than min wage :D

[rockrewls]

I don't believe this would work, fake certificates could be an issue, parental objections, would never allow it.

[laurieluvsit]

Sorry, to say parent objections don't count in today's world. Birth control pills are issued to minors by doctors with privacy laws forbidding parental notification, at least in California. I'M NOT KIDDING!

[rockrewls]

What I mean't to mean is that when voted on it wouldn't be passed by the parental population, and yes I believe you regarding the birth control.

[laurieluvsit]

Agreed, except in California and New York, it probably would pass, if not by vote, than by legislation, as that is how the birth control privacy bill got through.

[rockrewls]

Yes, but were you no insinuating a federal law for all states?

[laurieluvsit]

No, I specifically referred to "State" in the post. I know it would never fly in the conservative states, at least not yet.

[rockrewls]

Oh yeah my bad, I missed that in the title.

[Anonymous]

Teenage girls having sex with teenage boys (and vice versa) is one thing. Having some 20, 30, 40, something or more having sex with teenagers doesn't seem right.

[laurieluvsit]

You missed the last paragraph of my monologue. Here it is... "The age for those who have successfully completed all courses is the main focus of the survey. In addition to selecting the age allowable for consensual sex, the survey would also provide for no age above 17 allowable between sex partners until both have reached 18 at which time the certificate program no longer applies. So no adults will be involved in the survey, or the bill when it is voted on."

[Opinion Owner]

oops. Sorry. Having early sex is one thing, educating and promoting it is another. Teenage pregnancies stink. The older the better IMHO.

[Anonymous]

No have idea