Can someone please tell me why some men think this is acceptable behavior and other men justify it by saying it's men's nature?

Is this really a. Acceptable because youre a man?
Is this really a. Acceptable because you're a man?
I'm not men bashing. I'm no feminazi or that bs crap. But I am a woman sick of being objectified by men.
My neighbor's "husband" has hit on me in the past. Bad enough. But this morning when went over there because she was taking me to doctor, she had ran a quick errand. So, because she wasn't home he got even worse, at one point coming out of his chair and almost pinning me to the wall... I have never done anything to warrant this behavior. His excuse, he's a man and horny. I have a sexy body. So that excuses forcing your attentions or hands on someone else regardless of how they feel?
Its my right as a man
It's my right as a man
Noone woman or man should have to put up with fearing for their safety at the hands of another. I know there is a lot of men who don't feel that way, don't do that, and won't justify. But that there's any even if it was just one, is one too much.
This from fellow gag user a week ago in regard to dick pics question
This from fellow gag user a week ago in regard to dick pics question
Being a man, having urge, does not justify forcing yourself on a woman.
And anyone that excuses rapes or justifies it is just as guilty as the rapist cuz you victimizing the victim all over again by doing that.
Sorry if this comes off more as a rant than a question. Just want to spread awareness. You don't just harm someone physically. My blood pressure was high at the doctor's office probably as a result of this.
And I've been emotionally upset all day. Ironic this happened 20 min. after posting a mytake about true love/ real relationships.
As he's a married man, 40 years married, guess jokes on me for still believing🤷‍♀️
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  • That's completely unacceptable. Sure, you're attractive and he's horny - those things happen - but being married, even flirting is really not okay, and certainly no physical stuff of any kind is okay.

    This guy knows damn well that this isn't acceptable behavior, but he doesn't give a crap - he's selfish (and probably self-destructive) and just doesn't care - he only wants what he wants. It sounds like he had enough self-restraint not to actually grope you or anything, so he clearly knows that's not acceptable, but he already went way over the line.

    My advice is to actively avoid him. I know you are friends with your neighbor, but if there's any chance he's going to be around, make sure you aren't.

    He's unlikely to change on his own - he's going to be set in his ways and feeling entitled, and it seems that he knows how to avoid doing anything that might get him thrown in jail, which might be the only wake-up call that he would understand - so just keep your distance, even if that negatively impacts your friendship with your neighbor.

    • Thank you. Very well said and so on the Mark. That's exactly it. Thank you again❣

  • No, I can't tell you why some men do that sort of thing. But I guarantee that guy knew it was not acceptable behavior, he just did it anyway. That guy is a complete asshole and I understand why you're upset. I hate that there are still men who behave that way and make the rest of us look bad.

    • No just himself Idon't blame all for the actions of some men

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  • I remember who put that Full Of Shit nonsense up; Sh1t is even in his S/N...

    • Lol should known you'd recognize, 😁but I respectfully didn't include his username just cuz he couldn't show any himself

    • Oh I know... I only used part of his sn... LOL

    • Oh I know... wasn't lecturing.. just saying I still try being respectful even when people don't deserve it. Maybe that's the problem , people mistake my kindness for weakness. But they can ask the last asshat who told me he could take it by force if he wanted to. Cuz he went flying through my kitchen full bout the dinner and then the floor

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  • That shit is never justified and it is exactly why I carry.

    • I need to, but if I had been there'd be one 🤐and I'd be on a date with big Bertha in the county jail lol trying to joke my mood away lol

    • And that is why I have CCW insurance. Sure as fuck hope I never need to use it. But if I do, I’m glad I have it.

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  • I'm so sorry that happened to you. Yes, I'm a man but I'm also more importantly a gentleman. He was completely out of line to do that and I hope you'll find the opportunity to give him a piece of your mind and soon.

    • by the way, I'd love a follow. I'm another older and hopefully wiser member of this group.

    • Oh I gave him piece of my mind, and told him to sit the fuck back down. Had he not, he'd a got more than that. Promised myself long time ago no man finds put their hands on me like that again. He's way bigger, but I'd a fought. I'm just sick of being treated like just sex by people. And then you come on here and see all this women bashing. All life's thrown at me and still try to stay, be positive, but it's getting harder and harder

    • Thank you. And thanks for listening. Needed to vent. Blood pressure was already high today, where normally my blood pressure is really good

  • You should tell his wife.
    Men who behave like those you described (rapists, etc.) need to be kicked so hard in the groin that they need surgery to remove their balls from their abdominal cavity. Maybe they should get gang raped in the ass so they can see how much fun it is.

    • Just not dealing with those people anymore. Funny lived here 16 years, but never interacted with them much before. She's been helpful to me lately cuz she know I been going through some things. And, pretty sure she already know the shit he pulling, and at least don't care or didn with that herself. But, I'm not. So one less friend, but that isn't rank friendship anyways if she does know

    • I hear you.

    • You are messed up in the head

  • 1) Tell his wife, and also file a police report. Although you don't have any evidence worthwhile other than your word, hopefully it'll get the point across.

    2) The majority fo the men who use this site are probably just as bad or worse than him. Just warning you.

    3) Western women don't exactly treat decent men decently either. I'm one of the few truly Godly and decent men alive in the U. S. because just about every other man I've ever met is a godless pervert anyway, and western women treat me like shit all the time, especially the ones on dating apps, but pretty much anybody. Well, I've never had an Asian woman do anything maliciously evil to me, but I haven't had any white girls treat me like a human being in the past oh 20 years, with one or two weird exceptions, and unfortunately one of them was already married and the other was already in a relationship too. When I was 23 years old, my four best friends all suddenly turned on me one day, at church, and falsely accused me and my family of some shit for no reason, and I cut ties with them immediately. A few weeks earlier I had stood in one of their weddings and had originally planned to stand in the other couple's wedding, but after that shit, I cut ties with them forever, and haven't looked back. So literally I haven't been treated like a human being by a western woman, other than my mother anyway and two former co-workers, in the past 20 years.

    Well, about 6 months ago, I tried to get a certain local Asian woman to date me, but she laughed at me, and in hindsight I can understand why she laughed at me, because I as 62lbs overweight at the time, and I botched the whole thing up anyway. But other than that, I've never been Mistreated by an Asian woman, and i wouldn't call that mistreating anyway, I deserved to be laughed at that day.

    4) I wouldn't come here anyway for wise counsel, although there are two or three Christian men or Deists on this site that I mostly trust, but they only come here mostly to rebuke everyone else's godless behavior here, which I totally understand.

    The men here think it's "normal" to want to fuck a woman up the ass or choke her during sex or some other perverted shit like that, so I wouldn't trust any of them to give a shit about you. Just saying. And half the women here are too stupid to say "no" even though they don't like that.

    In any case, take a real self defense class taught by an ex-marine, and punch the guy in the throat as hard as you can next time. If I was a woman, I wouldn't put up with this shit the first time, much less the second time. Otherwise wear a recorder on you and record it next time or something like that.

    • Anyway, tell the police. Don't bother with these idiots here, because most of them don't give a shit about women anyway, and most of the women here don't give a shit either. The moderators don't care either, they've falsely accused me of a crime here several times, and yet they let grown adults give minors illegal advice on several occasions and refuse to do anything about it when I pointed it out. You're in the wrong place. Get a tape recorder, and record it next time. And punch him in the throat as hard as you can next time too. See if you can put your fist through his spine.

  • I don't think that it's justified or acceptable. If you've been brought up well then you know better. No amount of arousal can make you force yourself on anyone, that's a decision that you make. To be a decent human being is entirely possible for anyone of sound mind.

    • Thank you. And thank you for getting I'm not attacking all men. I know there's a lot that aren't that way. But I've read enough garbage on here where men justify men cheating on their spouse as excusable cuz their "men". Wrong for a spouse to cheat on spouse... period... regardless of gender... I don't make excuses for women sho cheat... because there's "never" a reason. To cheat, to try to force yourself on someone...

  • Wow... That's pretty intense. Men have a dumb sense of entitlement in their head... I'm not always sure why but it's a selfish moral imbalance. They are a man so therefore women need to do things for them. For a guys mind it sometimes can be easy to slip into. It's very scary but what needs to happen is a confrontation by people to get him thinking clearly again

  • Few things are going on here that your mixing into one question so ill split them into different questions.

    Why do men sexually assault women or think such a thing is acceptable? Biological nature mixed with either lack of morals or self control. Sexual urges can be very intense and unfortunately some individuals then just go out and assult women. It can also be a cultural thing, but its typically just assholes who don't hold back. Nobody in their right mind thinks that is acceptable behavior.

    Why do men sexually objectify women? For us the question is why wouldn't we do it? If you are attractive people will wonder what sex is like or see you as a potential mate. Its hard wired and in my opinion totally fine as long as they don't act on it in inappropriate ways. If a girl actively sexually fantasized about me i would be flattered and not offended. I think most men don't mind being seen as a sex object but we just like the girls also want to be seen as more than that if its not a casual fling.

    And lastly is it bad for people to flirt? In the situation you are describing with a married man who assaults absolutely. But regular compliments or flirting should not be seen as such a big deal.

    • When I say objectify, I don't just mean stares. I mean vulgar talk, pulling over if walk down street, offering good dick. Those things are not flirting, That's a form of harassment. So I shouldn't be able to walk down the street without being harassed. 🤷‍♀️

  • And that is why I’m always within reach of a gun or knife

  • He is mentally ill probably

  • Sorry to you had to experience that - he's not a man - but an animal. Married or not has nothing to do with it really as no guy should act like that. Ever. If you had called the police, he would have been arrested. I am sure it's awkward at best with your friend but I wonder if you told her if she would try to justify what he did or would freak out or whatever. Again though, sorry you had to experience it. Not right. At all.

    • Thank you❣

  • It's not ok and more men need to do something about this kind of shit. We need to be able to rely on each other in life but how can we trust one another when you got assholes out there thinking they can act however they want I've got daughters and I see it like this. It's not ok to pull this crap on anyone plus what if this asshole comes into contact with one of my girls and the fact that it could happen to one of them gets me tripping I get stupid real fast

    • Thank you. I'm just getting sick of people and they're bullshit.

  • Men actually have biological needs in regards to sex. These needs are a lot stronger than women’s... but this isn’t to say that we should throw self restraint and decency out the door.

    • Then he should direct that at his wife!!! And a married man's needs in regards to sex are only my concern if it's a man I'm married too!!

    • I agree 100%

  • "Horny" or not, he just will have to learn to control himself.

    If he verbally threatens you, that is assault. If he carries out the treat and actually touches you, that is battery. (Some municipalities have laws that allow the terms to be used somewhat interchangeably, but assault is technically the threat and battery is the completion of the threat through actual attack). But I digress-
    If he has done either or both, then he committed a reportable offense and you have every right to report him to the police as having done such to you!

  • Dude sounds like a dumbass. He doesn't answer for the rest of us and I hope he leaves you alone

    • Thank you🤗

  • A man should never touch a girl who ain't his wife, cause a man have only rights on his wife, sex can be done only with her, he can pin his wife if he wants to or take her clothes off anytime he wants cause she's his wife and she will be more than happy but to go for other women and doing such stupid things, it's not acceptable at all and there are no excuses...

    Especially if he's married than he's a cheater and a loser.

  • Most of them are likely just trying to get a rise out of people, the rest are too stuck in a bubble of people who think similarly and never have their beliefs challenged.

  • Behaviour of a cad and not of a man. In some places what he did constitutes assault and is an offence.

  • It's ONLY acceptable if it's something the Woman enjoys... And even then should ONLY be acted upon with permission... Some Girls like to be "pushed around", in a playful way. I believe, if my Girl ever wanted that, I'd still be careful and only ask permission before treating Her like that.
    To my actual point, Men SHOULD not act like that. Not by default. Men NEED to treat Girls as Girls are: Princesses. Queens. Rare precious gems.

  • Damn!! 😮 i am shocked that there are people out there who believe rape or sexual assault is justified.

    • Sad but true, and some right here on GaG. But no you're not one of them🤗

  • There is no justifying it, most men think with their dicks instead of their brains. The power of boners can be so strong than a man simply loses control and overcomes to the lust.

    And pinning you to the wall sounds like straight up rape to me, I'd tell your neighbor or report him to the police if I was you.

    • But then he should direct that at his wife. Horny don't excuse trying tho cheat on your wife any more than it excuses multiple advances or putting your hands on someone who's made it clear they agree not interested!

    • *are not agree

    • I wish I had a simple answer to explain, but there is never an excuse for it.

  • it's disgusting but it is not in a man's nature to be disrespectful to a womans personal space. this is a choice that men make based on the actual man's nature (if straight etc) of finding women attractive.
    Unfortunately I have seen loads of blokes, mates down the pub, men at work, touch a wOman innapropriately and or sexual and it makes me cringe. you can tell how awkward and uncomfortable the lady is feeling most of the time. however some women laugh it off , others play along but so rarely do they tell the guy to back off. even though there are people around.
    sadly these are the guys that win in life cos as I've recently concluded through years of evidence most women do seem to like a bit of a lad.
    it is true what they say in this case.
    treat them. mean. keep them keen.

    I on the other hand (despite a natural urge to look) will not even look at a woman's cleavage and have to look away if they bend down in front. I just don't feel I should be looking as it is disrepecting the woman. obviously I would look if it was my partner. but I'm single. think it is me that has it wrong in life. chivalry seemed to have died a long time ago.
    this has given me a question I shall post

    • Well I don't like, secretly or otherwise. I get very uncomfortable. But, it shouldn't be called chivalrous to treat someone with the respect thet deserve. Makes me have a question to. Why if a man's nice to a man iit's respect, but if it's a woman, it's being chivalrous?

    • I prob went off on a tangent. I am nice to blokes cos I'm nice. it's not out of respect. I am nice to women cos I am nice. again, not out of repect. I think it is disrespect to said lady for me to ogle her cleavage. I dont know what is the equivalent to chivalry if politeness and being curious to women is what chivalry is. (I don't actually know the proper definition). for me chivalry is opening a door, pulling out a chair at a restaurant, walking kerb side if with a lady. etc. but perhaps I generalise it to being both nice and respectful to women. it doesn't surprise me if I am completely wrong. am going to google it now. interested to know if their is a bloke equivalent. I'm guessing that it only got coined for women when they finally had a voice in society in the very early days of becoming an equal sex when women were considered below men. I bet I am so wrong

    • this is a definition I found very polite, honest, and kind behaviour, especially by men towards women so it is for both sexes. I never knew that. never heard used about a bloke. chivalry is dead though in my opinion

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