Is Satan the reason people indulge in sexual perversions?

[Plitty-Tank]

https://www.openbible.info/topics/sexual_perversion

I think it is very evident that people who follow after sexual perversions are serving Satan, whether intentionally or unknowingly. It is no surprise that people who follow after secular living have some of the most perverted sexual practices like premarital sex, extramarital sex, sex strictly without wanting procreative as an option. They go out of their way to have all types of sex that will not include allowing for procreative potential. This is not the case with all people but it does apply a lot. They are more likely to be ones who will want to express a wide range of sexual practices that God does not like.

People who follow righteousness and God seem to always opt for procreative potential. While some may indulge in sexual perversions, it's at a minimal compared with people who don't want a relationship with God. Does Satan tempt men with condom usage and tempt women with birth control pills usage? Why are people so strung about not waiting until marriage to have sex?

Has Satan perverted the minds of humans to cause them to not be bothered at the beauty sex is supposed to be but demonize sex to the point that they have sexual pleasures and lust more than using sex properly?

You can easily tell if people enjoy sex in unnatural positions and actually gloat about it are giving glory to Satan as he is using them to turn against God. Please explain why you think so many people live such perverted sexual lives! Yes, I am even tempted sometimes but I do know that this type of sex is not pleasing towards God.

[lightbulb27]

Satan by definition is "the adversary". The adversary to what though? To God. What is God? That gets into perspective religious interpretation. Taking Jesus... God is love. Love is an emotion, energy.

So Satan is in effect some source of energy that is not love! AHA!!!

Lets talk how humans work. Our hormones drive chemicals in to a chemical electrical engine that intprets and processes emotions based upon what we've got stored. Damn sophisticated computer. You weren't desirous of chickydoodles when you were 4... it took time to grow then the hormones kicked in. That's nature.

If the emotions were pure love, doubt we'd indulge have the desires. If we had mates at time this stuff kicked in and they were all we sell, probably wouldn't pervert. If you weren't exposed to all the sexual junk we are exposed to in movies, society, family (centuries of sin)... doubt it.

So is it Satans fault? The original sin was a lie to deceive Eve. That created shame, fear, lust, greed, envy, strife, murder... you know the list. So no it wasn't... it was our choice! Temptation is a total BI%@#, it is powerful, that is probably Gods fault or satans, not sure why we are so sensitive. Nobody said it's easy fella... Choose God, eventhough our desires say something else. Turn off the stimulus.

Satan is just energy sitting there that preys on people "like a roaring lion", sitting in the hearts and minds of humans, like the Bible says. It is our choice that selects it. And it spreads like weeds in a garden.

[Tentia]

Whoa, man, calm down. Let's think about this. We all hate Satan here, he's our adversary, and always will be. But you need to go about this a different way. Going on a site designed with it's main purpose to be exploration, and telling everyone they are, in essence, not fully in control of everything they are doing, isn't a good look. And although you definitely aren't worried about how you appear, you're worried about our souls, you aren't bringing us into the light of God. If we can't empathize with what you are saying, then we won't listen. You get it? I can help you help us more in a chat.

[lightbulb27]

@Tentia you lost me. I think I explained some concepts well. They aren't fully in control... until they realize who is in control and choose better. What's in control is our sub conscious and/or spirit... and our body. It's a system. People do things that are total evil and think it's good, and in fact exact pleasure from hurting others (see this other kid younger than you out here who is being tortured and not much he can do about it). Under the power of this world.. a stronger male. Satan would be the cause, but we have to own it, right and affront it? As Jesus said "Forgive them father, for they know not what they do". I could be wrong, I can be convinced, my eyes are open, that's how I see it at the moment. I don't want to get into a long debate in text, but if you want to discuss it a bit, ok fine. I appreciate your question and thoughts... just because I'm older, doesn't mean I know more or am right.

[Tentia]

Oh, that was mainly for the original poster (postee?) But if you're interested, I'm willing to talk about it, you two seem to have similar ways of approaching the masses, in my opinion. I would like to help you guys to be easier to listen to!

[lightbulb27]

@Tentia not sure I want to put a lot of time into tis right now, but I'll observe as you write your opinions. You may be right ultimately in some sense. But one of my greatest lessons in recent history is learning responsibility. I see this playout with ohters... they blame things on God or the devil. I think that's not healthy. But it is appropriate to see that the devil is behind other peoples mis deeds, albeit I still hold them to their responsibility.

[Tentia]

Whoa, man, calm down. Let's think about this.

We all hate Satan here, he's our adversary, and always will be. But you need to go about this a different way. Going on a site designed with it's main purpose to be exploration, and telling everyone they are, in essence, not fully in control of everything they are doing, isn't a good look.

And although you definitely aren't worried about how you appear, you're worried about our souls, you aren't bringing us into the light of God. If we can't empathize with what you are saying, then we won't listen. You get it? I can help you help us more in a chat.

[mistixs]

Without arguing about your definition of sexual perversion including nonprocreative sex, it is a mixture of Satan & our inborn sinful nature AKA yetzer hara (the latter is a Jewish term but it's based on passages in the Old Testament) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yetzer_hara

[mistixs]

I would say it's mostly the yetzer hara, but Satan could play a part sometimes

[Plitty-Tank]

Did you vote?

[mistixs]

Option C

[laurieluvsit]

Yes... lol

[ciitruskiwi]

Lmao I'm serving Satan cause I had premarital sex? 😂 How can I serve him when I don't believe? That doesn't make any sense

[Plitty-Tank]

I don't believe people don't believe in him. Also it doesn't matter if people believe it or not, it doesn't mean Satan isn't the reason. I can believe I don't have a brain or any blood in my body. It doesn't make it true. Laughing is what demonic people do who is blinded by Satan.

[Plitty-Tank]

No cussing in my thread. Also, prove Satan doesn't exist or you're dishonest in saying so. If you can't verify it, you can't claim it. If you can't show it, you don't know it. Real people will say there is no evidence suggesting he exist, not that he doesn't exist.

[Plitty-Tank]

Wusses cuss.

[ciitruskiwi]

Oh boo hoo. Are you gonna go tell mommy I said a bad word? You're a 20 year old grown man, act like it. I believe in evolution and science. I don't believe in imaginary figures that say we have to live our lives a certain way if we want to get into a certain place when we die. We go six feet under ground and rot when we die. That's what happens.

[Plitty-Tank]

You claim they are imaginary, then freaking prove it. Otherwise, you are dishonest. You must show that it is impossible for Satan to exist to say he is imaginary. Real people don't cuss and are bothered by it. My age doesn't matter. What makes me grown?

[Plitty-Tank]

Evolution and science can be believed in all you want. Neither proves that Satan is imaginary.

[Plitty-Tank]

You are arrogant and think you know 100% what happens after death. Did I report your account for bullying me? No. I gave you an explanation why I don't tolerate cussing.

[ciitruskiwi]

I didn't bullying you, if swearing in general is that offensive then you need to a grow pair. Also I don't need to prove my beliefs to some random person on the internet that I'm going to forget the existence of by tomorrow morning. You have no importance in my life for me to explain or prove anything to you. Just don't shove your beliefs down my throat just because my lifestyle choices differ from yours and don't tell me I'm going to hell because of that.

[Plitty-Tank]

You shoved your beliefs by claiming Satan doesn't exist. You didn't say there is no evidence suggesting. You said he didn't. Grow a pair of what? Why say grow a pair and not say what of?

[Plitty-Tank]

And it is nice to know you hate me. Shows you are following Satan when you don't love others nor care about them.

[AzureGirl]

Hail Satan?

These questions are certainly amusing.

[Plitty-Tank]

Real people recognize Satan is why people sin. People blinded by him can't see why sexual perversion is wrong.

[ciitruskiwi]

"real people"? I didn't realize everyone else was imaginary. 🙄

[Plitty-Tank]

Saying Satan is imaginary doesn't make it true. If you can't prove he is imaginary, then you are dishonest in saying so.

[ciitruskiwi]

Prove that he isn't imaginary and proof doesn't count "people commit evil acts". Also prove that God isn't imaginary either.

[AzureGirl]

The same can be said of any religious figure though. No solid proof of existence. And no, I’m not interested in any “proof” you may or may not have. Also lighten up and take a joke. Good day.

[AzureGirl]

@ciitruskiwi nothing towards you in my previous comment. Just to clear up.

[Plitty-Tank]

Don't need to. You made the claim he is imaginary. I didn't claim 100% he is real. Just the evidence suggest God and Satan are real.

[ciitruskiwi]

@azuregirl no worries thanks for clarifying

[pajamasam]

Dont let imaginary non existent storybook characters dictate your sex life.

[Plitty-Tank]

Got evidence Satan is imaginary? Otherwise, you are dishonest to claim so.

[pajamasam]

Do you have a hard copy of Satans birth certificate?, a birth certificate or similar government document would be enough evidence for me to accept the existence of god or satan.

[Plitty-Tank]

That's not evidence against him existing. That is just no evidence that he exists. That's not the same thing.

[pajamasam]

That's how the government proves I exist... why is this system all of a sudden not good enough? Besides, I have never claimed there is a red horned demon that lurks around people's bed rooms and whispers in people's ears that they should go watch porn and have premarital sex. People have sex because they always have had sex for thousands of years. You are the one who is make outlandish claims, you should provide evidence, not me. So until I see a birth certificate, I'm gonna have to pass.

[Plitty-Tank]

You are the one claiming he is imaginary. Lack of evidence is not the same as evidence against.

[pajamasam]

Sure I've claimed he doesn't exist, but I'm willing to admit he exists if you provide evidence. Produce a government issued birth certificate and I would be happy to eat my words. I would think someone who so adamantly believes in the supernatural would jump at the opportunity to provide written legal documents that prove the existence of God and or Satan. Why won't you provide a birth certificate?

[Plitty-Tank]

pasteall.org/.../show.php

[pajamasam]

That's a birth certificate for Robert Bruce Cheney, not satan, while satan is mentioned as the father I feel a simple paternity test can determine Bruce Cheney's real father which would deem this document a fraud. It could not be used as evidence in a court of law. It's also very obviously political humor, and not published by any legitimate standing government past or present.

[Purpleronnie]

This just seems like the scribblings of a mad person. I hope you see from the responses / opinions these type of questions receive that perhaps gag is not the best forum for you.

[Pamina]

My reason is because I see nothing wrong with it.

[Plitty-Tank]

What you do if you learnt Satan was the reason? And the reason you saw nothing wrong with it was because Satan blinded you?

[Plitty-Tank]

So nothing wrong with rape and bestiality? Way to see nothing wrong with it!

[Pamina]

I didn't know this was about bestiality and rape. Those things I find 100% wrong. I thought this was merely about premarital sex.

[Plitty-Tank]

No, it is about all forms of fornication.

[Pamina]

Rape and bestiality I consider wrong because they are forced upon other beings and assault, hurt, and traumatize them. It's horrible. I see nothing wrong with any type of sexual act between two consenting adults. If two single grown ups want to have sex with each other, that's wonderful.

[Plitty-Tank]

What about adultery? (Cheating on husband or wife)

[Pamina]

Obviously bad, since it's hurting someone. Someone is being betrayed and emotionally hurt.

[Dargil]

I haven't a clue.

[AmourHoney]

Satan isn’t real.

[Plitty-Tank]

Provide evidence. If you can't, you are dishonest to say he isn't real. The only thing you can say is there is no evidence suggesting he is real. You are blinded by Satan. His goal is to for people to think he isn't real. Why say he isn't real if you can't provide any reason?

[AmourHoney]

Why would I think he is real? 😂

[Plitty-Tank]

Doesn't matter. If you have no proof he is imaginary, then you are dishonest in saying so. You could be believing a false thing.

[Plitty-Tank]

All people have an innate knowledge of God's existence and also of Satan's existence. Those who deny God or Satan is real are being deceived by Satan and are worshipping him whether they acknowledge it or not. They will say they ain't due to being blinded. A person who is blinded by Satan can't know they are blinded.

[pineapple_999]

I'm atheist so I dont believe in Satan to begin with

[Plitty-Tank]

Pineapple, that doesn't mean you are correct. Also, can you prove scientifically that you are an atheist or show it is possible people can be atheist since science doesn't deal in absolutes?

[AmourHoney]

You have no proof that he is real.

[Plitty-Tank]

It is weirs you use the 666 upside down while not believing in Satan. Don't you think?

[Plitty-Tank]

weird

[AmourHoney]

What? 😂

[pineapple_999]

9 is my favourite number

[Plitty-Tank]

You assume I don't. Also, whether I have proof he is real or not, you have no proof he is imaginary. I don't need to prove he is real. I never claimed it. You claimed he is imaginary. So you need to prove it.

[pineapple_999]

How am I supposed to use science to prove I'm atheist? That's like asking you to use science to prove you believe in Satan. It makes no sense

[AmourHoney]

Because there is no evidence of his existence. Simple as. He’s not real.

[pineapple_999]

Satan was made up to scare people and prevent them from doing certain things

[Plitty-Tank]

Not having evidence isn't the same as evidence against.

[Plitty-Tank]

Isn't science the only form of knowledge you accept tho?

[pineapple_999]

Obviously

[pineapple_999]

No not only science

[AmourHoney]

In that case, Santa and the tooth fairy are both real.

[Plitty-Tank]

You have no evidence I'm American. Does that mean you have evidence against me being American? No it doesn't. No evidence for is not evidence against.

[AmourHoney]

If you can’t prove someone’s existence, chances are, they aren’t real 🤡

[pineapple_999]

@AmourHoney true

[Plitty-Tank]

Not all claims are equal. You used 999, not just 9. Also, Santa and tooth fairy have been disproven, not just shown to not have evidence for.

[pineapple_999]

What makes you believe Satan is real? And does 999 freak you out because it's so similar to 666?

[Plitty-Tank]

I never said that. Quick acting like I've said something I didn't. You said he isn't real but can't take accountability when you are called out on it to prove it. Way to go, wuss.

[Plitty-Tank]

Wrong. Chances can be wrong. You can't prove you are real. You use your senses. Science is a religion. It is based on sense data. You must rely on your senses being a real representation if reality.

[Plitty-Tank]

You even admitted science is a religion. You said you believe in evolution and science. Belief is what makes it a religion.

[pineapple_999]

Well I mean I can use logic to prove it. There's very very little chance of Satan being real because he's really a monster who is responsible for sins, right? (If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me). Also by calling me a wuss, I'm pretty sure you are scared of the 999 in my username being close to 666. In my opinion, he was created because people didn't want to take credit for their flaws and misbehaviour. That's just my humble opinion though.

[pineapple_999]

Science is not religion, it is facts. If all the sacred texts of all religions in the world were destroyed and forgotten about, they couldnt be proven and rewritten word for word. However if all scientific information was destroyed and forgotten about, it could be discovered again through experiments. That is the main difference between religion and science.

[AmourHoney]

How has Santa been disproven?

[Plitty-Tank]

Science is a religion. Watch it and weep!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=trHVU9QeGB0

[Dchrls78104]

Yes, because those who choose to indulge in sexual perversions are listening to him.

[Usernamesrdumb]

Im trying to bang a girl for every hour i was forced to sit in church, bible study, baptisms, weddings, going between churches, funerals, potlucks, etc.

[Luxhian]

If cheating exists blame that motherfucker satan

[Plitty-Tank]

It is the person's fault but Satan could tempt some who he knows is weak in that area.

[OddBeMe]

Well let’s see, there’s no proof of satan or god existing. So I’d say no. There is proof of human nature existing and that contains our dumb views about sex, like fetishes. But it’s all ok as long as you don’t hurt anyone. Sex is messy, but awesome.

[FrankBurnss]

I think people are just following in the footsteps of the catholic priesthood.

[WendyTaylor]

Well... when in Rome... LOL