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Do you think pornography has made men have unrealistic expectations of getting a girl in bed?

before you roll your eyes I don’t mean body wise or appearance wise

i mean, guys are so conditioned these days to thinking they can get laid easily even from some of the most respectable, self respected of woman. they even sometimes don’t care if a woman puts her dignity, morals or religion out of the window as long as they get what they want and seeing paid actress on a screen giving it up so easily doesn’t help their entitled mindsets.

i thought maybe porn has normalised this. I was standing outside one time with my friend and an old man put his hands down his pants and smiled at us, horrifying, I have been touched in my crotch at nightclubs while innocently dancing with my friends, my friends have had similar too and sometimes worse. We discussed that we felt porn normalises this sort of behaviour for creepy types of men. Thoughts?
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  • Such behavior has ALWAYS existed - it's not in any way new. There's always a small percentage of guys who have no respect for boundaries, and if you're in a club where people are drinking, you shouldn't be shocked that (drunk) people have boundary issues.

    For at least the last million years, men have desired having sex with as many women as they could get, and are a thousand times more interested in casual sex than women are - which leads to this kind of behavior. And I'm pretty sure porn wasn't around then, though forms of porn go back to the very oldest civilizations we know about.

    The real issue is that modern women have this crazy expectation that men should act like women - there's little recognition of the fact that males are incredibly different in so many ways, with very different desires and motivations and priorities - and so it's no wonder that women are confused when men act differently than they expect.

    I can think of at least 3 women who have posted here over the last 9 years I've been here who had medical issues that required being put on testosterone hormones for a time, and they all said the same thing: they were constantly horny, they were constantly thinking about sex, they were rubbing against things all day long, they couldn't focus on their work, etc. And all of them said (and I'm paraphrasing): "I owe a lot of guys an apology. I had no idea what men have to deal with hormone-wise, but so much now makes sense to me. These hormones are crazy powerful and definitely alter my behavior far more than I could have ever imagined, and I can't imagine how it must be for guys to have to live with even higher amounts of this in their bodies all the time!"

    • I hear what you’re saying, but I don’t think any of that gives anybody permission to try to disrespect someone in the process of gaining what they want. I didn’t say men liking frequent intercourse is bad, I think it’s bad how pushy and inconsiderate it can make a man toward woman.

    • Yes, but the vast majority of men aren't that way. You're talking about a relative handful of outliers. Well, unfortunately, you're always going to have a small percentage who have no interest in following the rules and only care about what they want - and 50 years of leftist social change and moral relativism means that there are more of those guys than ever, because they weren't raised to be responsible for themselves or their own behavior - never being told "no." But that's not an "all men" problem, it's a problem among a small subset of men.

  • Well, your old man in the description would have grown up without the internet, and magazine/video porn which was odd, because it's what I grew up with, and dial-up internet, neither of which was very appealing. Fantasizing about women I was flirting with and playing with their boobies was.

    Anywho, point being it's going to be your generation that has to deal with that, and ask those questions as you are the first wave to be raised with high speed internet accessible by nearly everyone, going from desktop to wireless to phone by the time you were going into grade-school.

    Having said that, I think porn has given women more than men unrealistic standards on themselves, of what to live up to, what noises to make, how submissive to be, so on and so forth. There really isn't much porn made for women, and men who enjoy porn and the idea of women like you see in porn more than women will watch more porn and buy sex toys and robots to fuck rather than meet real women and the complications of the real world.

    I did notice that when I was younger, me not using a condom was an outlier, now so many younger people don't, and never have used them, and you never see them in porn, so maybe your idea has some traction there.

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  • I think it has affected, but mainly because of lack of sex ed. They need to be teached how porn is just acting, it is not real.

    Some find porn way too young, which can mess their perspective very, very badly too.

  • I am convinced porn plays an influence in turning men into creeps.

    • I agree completely. I think it brainwashes a lot of them, porn should really come with a disclaimer.

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  • yes i do because i have told several women i am a pizza delivery guy, a pool boy , and even a cable repair guy none of that crap works and all i get are fines for not having s work permit , what the hell? there is no sex involved at all its all just a pack of lies. >:(

  • Porn gives unrealistic expectations, yes.

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/UyL3p4cjzpY

  • Yes... I'm still waiting for that busload of cheerleaders!!!🤣🤣🤣

  • It's not porn that normalized this way if thinking it's the advent of dating being somthing that takes place heavaly online now and with other social media apps where some women will post things for male attetion of validation and some guys thinking this is how all women are and clearly she wants to get fucked 😑

  • No more than romance novels and Disney movies have made women have interstices expectations. Most people have little difficulty separating fiction from reality.

    • I would must rather be brainwashed by innocent Disney movies and romance novels than porn. A man feeling so entitled to sex from woman is a dangerous thing.

    • Some men have always felt entitled to sex. Sexual violence has been declining for quite a long time, even though pornography is available almost worldwide.

  • Porn has been part of human history since the invention of writing. There is evidence of pornographic carvings in Egyptian tombs. Sex is more hardwired in a man's brain not due to lots of porn or social standard but due to evolution. Hunter gatherers died quite frequently when hunting so families of men and women would constantly be reproducing to meet the demand of the group. Also prostitution has been part of human history for about as long as civilization has

  • I believe pornography make men (and women) have no clue what they are doing in bed...

  • It's not porn, it's hookup apps that makes people think it's easy to find someone to fuck.
    What you mentioned are sexual deviants or self centered people who believe "I like it when I touch myself, therefore she must too".
    For a pornography, a plot where the guy tries to seduce a girl in the club by touching her inappropriately is too complex of a plot and it would require the "actors" to actually know how to act.

  • Low IQ men maybe. No half way intelligent man sees porn as anything but a dumb fantasy. It's fake af and looks fake af.

  • porn has been around for decades, maybe not on the internet, that came around in like the 90s or early 2000s,
    but even before that there has been porn magazines throughout the whole century... and guys werent having high unrealistic expectations 15yrs ago were they? no,
    and they had jus the same amount of porn back then,

    i dont think guys do have high unrealistic expectations,.., its either jus in ur mind... or ur ugly and can't get any guy to fuck u and assuming porn has made them go after hot girls only... but thats not true,
    porn doesn't make us think of girls any differently and it doesn't alter the mind

    • it juz means we jerk off a lot more now, thats the only difference

    • also i totally disagree with porn making guys think they can fuck any girl, i am the totall opossite and i dont think i can even fuck ugly girls, no girls seem to be intrested in me and i have very low self esteem, even tho iv watched billions of porn, so porn doesn't make guys think we can fuck any girl

  • well i want porn but i dont let it effect me mentally in any way, ig i just accept its all fake

  • porn definitely causes unrealistic expectations especially for young men. i'm pretty sure that masturbating to pornography also changes your body's physiology.

  • Well, I think it gives unrealistic expectations to idiots who can't form or hold on to their own thoughts, not just men, by the way there are girls like that, too.

  • No, I don't, but it is the current "vogue excuse" that women use to blame men who act badly regarding sexual attitudes. That's not "why" men act with disregard or a lack of respect. Immaturity, ignorance, stupidity, bad upbringing, a sense of entitlement... those are reasons.

    One statement of yours makes no sense to me:
    " ... they even sometimes don’t care if a woman puts her dignity, morals or religion out of the window as long as they get what they want..."
    Other than being raped, how is that going to happen unless the woman allows it to happen? Manipulation? No - if the woman lets herself get talked into doing something she really didn't want to do, then both are equally to blame.

  • Porn has normalised oral sex and other disgusting acts of vulgarity. Porn has led many to objectify themselves and others. Porn has led many humans to make themselves like animals instead of humans. Yes, porn has created unrealistic expectations and made fools of people.

    • Oral sec was “normalized” long before photography existed. And oral sex is not a “disgusting act of vulgarity”. Saying porn has made people like “animals” is equally absurd. Humans ARE a form of animal. You have some seriously demented ideas about sexuality. You need professional help and I mean a MD or a PsyD, NOT a ThD

    • @dmgstarfleet oral sex IS disgusting; at least for me. The whole idea makes me want to retch. I stand by everything I said. I'm an individual and I think for myself; I pity all those who don't.

    • ... and I am not an animal and will not live like one.

  • Yeah some men have taking that position.

  • Yes definatly. It makes us men think our cock has to be the same size and girls expectations are the same.

  • The culture in general has driven this. Music, movies, TV, internet, fashion, advertising bad role models, fatherlessness, etc. all play a role in this oversexed culture.

  • I don't think that porn changed that. Nowadays women avoid to kick balls of the bad guys and so the men think they can do all they want. Police, jail etc are no determent. Men need the immediate feedback along to their behaviour.

  • Did brainwashing to a deep extent, is what i believe! Imagination beyond reality

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