I agree as fucked up as even letting one abortion slip through sounds I wouldn’t want a baby from a stranger either. 💁🏼♀️
So you care about these kids in cages? Those in foster care that lose their life to negligence? You can about homeless and abuse children? Children of color?
@Simplismilez A life is a life imagine your mother doing that to you. Golden rule is doing what you would want other's to do for you. And lives are too precious because you can't be raised up from the dead like a zombie.
Well said @Sheyhoney. The truth will definitely hurt some people here. When you have sex you know the possibility of pregnancy is there so take responsibility for your actions🙌
@ITGirl95 : Definitely. My mom should have thought about that possibility before spreading her legs.
@ITGirl95 Having an abortion is taking responsibility for your actions. If your birth control method has failed and the morning after has failed, the final choice is abortion. Do not punish yourself WITH a child if you do not want to be a parent. Your idea will probably be, then don't have sex. Also absurd. This is all down to the old saw about making a bed and lying in it. We have got to stop this draconian idea of pregnancy being a punishment for sex, therefore, don't have sex and don't get pregnant. My body is mine. It is not owned by an embryo growing in it. And certainly not by a differentiating mass of cells in the first few weeks after impregnation. No want chooses an abortion lightly. 90 percent of women who use abortion were using birth control. Fifty percent of them are married women. This isn't done lightly. It's no happy birth control method. It's unfortunate, but necessary.
It’s usually chicks with your IQ who eventually become single mothers so you do have a point
@panther0008 I totally agree with her and I assure you my IQ is higher than yours and I am more educated than you. Grow up!
i definitely get where you're are coming from but what about those rare cases such as rape like i just wouldn't know what to tell the kid we they ask "who's my dad?" kinda questions... I don't know pls dont hate on me im just asking.
@panther0008 Nope. I was a very married mother until my ex wouldn't stop hitting me. And my son was planned AND wanted and I still love and like him. he's turning out a good egg at nearly 25. An embryo cannot exist without the mother's body. When the day comes that they can and people can adopt "embryos," I suppose it'll be a different situation And there is no guarantee that your baby, given up for adoption will 1. ever BE adopted 2. be adopted into a good family 3. have as good a life as yours or better opportunities. People who are anti abortion do not think of anything past the baby being born. They don't think of the hundreds of thousands of dollars it costs to get an infant through college or trade school so they might find what they like to do and have good opportunities. In fact, they don't even think of how long that child might languish in foster care; flopping from family to family, school to school. Being displaced forever. Fifty percent of children in foster care end up in prison. What does that say about being brought up by a mother and father who want and love you? But having posiive connections: family, friends, education, life experiences is what it's all about. You can guarantee NOTHING for a child that you give up. I chose to have a child when I could afford it, when I had the emotional maturity for it, the foxus and my family welcomed it. It takes a village. If I did NOT have that support, an abortion might have been a logical choice. You cannot judge someone unless you are in their shoes. It is horrible that someone can refer to their mother as someone who should not have "opened her legs." How incredibly judgmental and heartless. I feel sad for you.
@Screenwriter you're absolutely right
Unless it is able to survive on it's own, it is nothing more than a parasite. Since it isn't able to live outside the womb, it isn't fully human. Why have more unwanted kids in the world... I really love the pro life people, protect the unborn, yet are ok with the death penalty or putting homeless, unwanted kids in cages.
Get it sister and all you haters out there just here to kill off more lives how about YOU shut up. You obviously don't know how precious a life is. What if your mother's did that to you hmm? Oh wait! You'd be dead without having the chance to live instead of given to and orphanage in the least where you'll be given a fighting chance! I don't care the reason behind it there's always adoption centers available and the pain won't last forever and you can even take medicine to not feel a thing while doing child birth and after. So either way it's very inconsiderate.#SaveOurChildren
@SuzuBrooke to answer tour question: i’d be 100% ok if my mother aborted me. It’s her body and it’s her choice. And taking some painkillers isn't the fucking solution for the pain during and after childbirth lol wtf you know NOTHING about this subject. It’s either that you have gotten no idea how hard life can be or it’s that you’re just blatantly ignorant. And CELLS, are not “children”. If you care about children so much then fucking go help the ones who are struggling out there for a grain of rice, fucking go do some charity shit and save poorass kids in asia instead of sitting here policing people bodies and worrying and clumps of cells
@gaygod_19 Your just upset because she would have if she were raped talk about a sad life for you indeed. Good luck getting your life together.
@gaygod_19 Also, I wasn't even talking to you. I've have been raped before by MY COUSIN and I'm 15 so shut the hell up, and quit acting like you know my life.
Wow, look at the downvotes. See women are all on that feminist bs, telling let women have a voice, let them choose etc. but the moment a woman voicing her opinion and it's something you don't like.. you want to shut her down and tell her to "shut up"? Really?
@BlueScorpio yea well feminism is about people doing whatever they want with their body. If u dont wanna get an abortion then cool but dont force others to do the same thing
@BlueScorpio I was trying to tell her to shut up about thinking she knows my life. Not that she can't have an abortion that's her choice. She is free to her rights and words out there. But she shouldn't act like she knows people's lives. And cells "form" into babies so basically they are pre existent lives. Andwhere the f did feminism come from. The only feminists are the ones that bring it up in completely unrelated topics thinking it's that when it could really be something else that have no proof of it being feminism. This is not about feminism this is about abortion completely different story. It has no place in this discussion. No matter how many wrongs you put to a right it will never be right.
So if your in coma for 10 years... and they are sure you won't ever wake up again... they can't pull the plug? Because it is murder? Even when your family says they would like the doctor to pull the plug...
And also. The animals on your plate also wanted to live. But we kill them as well. It's technically also the pigs body. And the cows body, but we also rape the cows, steal their milk and kill them and their baby if we don't want them.
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"There's no excuses anymore for getting carelessly pregnant."Agreed.
As in my mom's case, if you got pregnant at the age of 46 by accident what would you do?
I would abort. I'm gay so it would have to have been a hell of an accident in my case lol, but either way at that age it is very dangerous to be pregnant in your 40s. Even if I wanted to have a child the high risk of deadly complications or birth defects would make it very unwise to go through with it.
Yup, I feel the same sentiment. In fact, if I got pregnant and couldn't get an abortion, I'd probably just kill myself so I wouldn't have to deal with the guilt of giving up a baby to adoption nor would I have to give birth (which is one of my absolute worst fears).
While I hope you never have to go through that I do understand your feelings. I’d try and trigger a miscarriage if I couldn’t get an abortion and hope it worked and didn’t harm me
Except for one thing, if a man tied you up and forced you to give birth whether you consented or not, you'd be having his baby. You forgot about that possibility.People also don't have the right to misuse sex just so they can abort babies. Part of being sexually mature is being responsible for any offspring that may result due to a pregnancy. How else can a person get pregnant other than sex unless you get pregnant from a sperm bank?
Kiera_Japanese What possibility am I forgetting? Are you condoning holding someone hostage like that? Easy solution for me: I would NEVER have sex with a man who did not support my right to choose what to do with MY BODY. I have an IUD so the possibility of me getting pregnant is low but it could still happen and I WILL express my human right to an abortion if need be. If you believe that sex is ONLY for reproduction and you only have sex to reproduce, that is your right as it is your own body and life. But I like sex. I love my boyfriend and I love having sex with him. Sex is not just for reproduction and people have a right to have sex even if they do not want children. I never want children, so what, I should never ever in my life have sex? That isn’t realistic for anyone who isn’t a monk. Mind your business and your body and I will mind mine.
I didn't say I condoned it. I said it was a possibility that he could do to force you to have his baby.You also seem okay with holding babies hostage from entering the world.
That man can take being pro choice also.
He can fake being pro choice.
It isn't your body either. It is the baby's body.
You also don't know the future and don't know that 5 years from now that you won't want children or that you won't be pro life.
Kier_Japanese Nobody can force me unless they literally hold me hostage and that will result in him going to jail and the baby would go into the foster care system as I would definitely not want it after going through that kind of trauma. It is my body that the fetus is growing inside. And if he wants to fake being pro-choice, that will only hurt him in the end as I would still have an abortion regardless of what the man says so it would be in his best interest to sleep with someone who has similar beliefs. I will do what I need to do for myself and it doesn’t matter what anyone else says. You or anyone else cannot change my mind. Maybe I will want children in 5 years or so. That doesn’t change the fact that I do not want them now and would still get an abortion. Also, I will NEVER be pro-life because I will never believe it is okay to take away a persons bodily autonomy. I have never held pro-life beliefs and never will. You can argue with me if you want but you won’t change my mind so you’re wasting your time 🤷🏼♀️
Except it may take more than 9 months to catch him. Also a woman could hold you hostage too.
You must be a very sick person for your mind to even go there. Why is that the part you are most focusing on in my comment? You act like you would want something like that to happen.
You are selfish and do as you please.You can't comdemn incest if you support abortion. The incest couple could say that it is their body too and shouldn't be forced to live by modern sex rules. It is also their choice who to have sex with if they consent as you say you have the choice what to do with their body. They have the same choice to do what they want with theirs.Say you had a son against your will. Would you force circumcision on him. Hmmm hmmm I bet you would now. Wouldn't you?
You don't know the future so you don't know what you will think in the future. You may not be in your right mind either. I can't stand when people claim to know what the future holds. You can say you don't think you will but you can't be 100% sure.
Excuse me? IF I ever end up with a child and they are a boy, I would NEVER force circumcision on him. That is a very bold accusation to make about a stranger on the internet. Also, yes, I am selfish. I am focused on myself and where my career and life are headed and I don’t want a pregnancy to get in the way. That is my business and is a good example as to why I should not have a child at this time. Also, while I don’t agree with incest, as long as they are grown up and consenting adults, it’s really none of my goddam business what they do. I would hope they at least would not have children so as not to pass on any genetic deformities.
No. I'm focused on your arrogance to think people can't have things done against their will. Like your baby's right to live. I bet evwn if your baby somehow made it to 3rd trimester, you'd abort the baby too if you had the means too. Even if 1 day from birth.
I bet if you wanted a child and had one and the man didn't after you were pregnant, you'd sue him for child support too?
True. We agree. You don't condemn incest even if you disagree as it is their body. It would defeat your pro choice position if you condemned it for that reason.
You are ridiculous. I am not one, but even if I was, literally who cares? And you are right I don’t know the future, neither do you. Maybe you will be pro-choice in the future? What does it matter anyway? And yes of course there is always a possibility that a crazy person can make you do something you don’t want to do. That is true for any any type of situation but I don’t see why that is relevant here? I have no desire to ever be pregnant so no I don’t really see myself hypothetically suing a man for child support over a child I didn’t want.I would not do a late term abortion unless there was a medical reason it needed to be done. I would get an abortion long before that point came along.
Okay. But you are aware some women find out they are pregnant past the time it is legal?
I don’t understand why you are so hell bent on knowing what I would do in every hypothetical scenario you can come up with? I don’t know what I would feel or do in every single possible hypothetical situation your brain can come up with. What I do know is that at this time, I do not want children and I am actively working to prevent pregnancy and would look into every possible avenue to ending my pregnancy if I happened to become pregnant which is unlikely because I am currently on one of the most accurate forms of birth control.
Okay, Broody. You don't have to be moody.
What if it's the result of birth control failure (e. g. broken condom) or not using BC at all?
you still always have to have that thoughts... what ifs? When you become sexual active is the day you say yes to all the possibilities what ifs...
I can't free my mind of the fact that she got fucked so soon after her divorce from my dad. Her hormones were peaking at the time I guess :)
Yes they probably were. People are sometimes misinformed. Think the older women get, the less sex drive they have or once they hit menopause their sex drive goes away. And that isn't always the case. It's usually the opposite. Your sex driver goes into overdrive. Well, mine did. Your mom's probably did too
You have a boyfriend too? :)
No. The way people view dating and relationships. The casual attitude about casual sex and cheating. And the way social media is interfering, ruining relationships, no thanks
I just graduated three days ago, in my class there is a girl with Down Syndrome, a man with Cerebral Palsy and a girl with Osteogenesis Imperfecta. All three living amazing lives. The man with Cerebral palsy making such wonderful friends, in fact, he's popular, despite having it so severe. You can see the joy in his eyes. This is the same for the other two girls. Yes life is harder, but they still deserve a chance in experiencing life like these three people in my school have.
Agreed. Thanks :)
I guess she never thought about getting pregnant again anymore so she let him cum inside her stupidly. I cannot see that as an accident.
My mom would probably say it was an accident and never wanted to get pregnant.
Although you may not be physically, mentally or emotionally even financially for a kid their is always a way that will make things better and supportive for you rather than risking a medical disease/condition or even death. If it was me regardless of any situation i would've kept it cuz its a blessing no matter what
Keep it because that's a miracle, there is like a 1 in a mill chance that you can get pregnant at that age with no complications cuz at that age your menstrual cycle starts to fade and u get menopause
Agreed. I mean if you get fucked you should be ready for the outcome anytime anywhere.
Exactly, like my grammy said "if u decide to open up ya legs for ya man then don't hesitate to open up ya legs to give birth" 😂😏
Very good :)
And another thing is that condoms sometimes fail to do the job. Sometimes they break and not all of us are lucky because they also take the bc pill. But not everyone is that lucky..
Yep I'm sure the guy's condom broke while fucking my mom..!
It used to be illegal. Look at what was happening back then that got Rowe v wade passed in the Supreme court. Rape and poverty were rampant, marital rape was not even recognized as a punishable crime back then and women were treated like second class citizens. The 40s and 50s were not like the Brady bunch and happy days, some women were trying to sell their children to anyone that could feed them just so they didn't have to watch them starve to death in their arms. Women would get raped and knowing they couldn't afford the cost of delivery would get back alley abortions. Legal, safe abortion has saved lives and prevented untold misery. If we go back to making it illegal and shaming sex and contraceptives, poverty will go up. "Empowerment of women and not making them the beasts of child bearing is the only cure for poverty. It's worked everywhere its been tried.' --Hitchens
Sorry i thought i was replying to a different comment😂
Well I would never go without birth control. If it happens, it depends on the person again. I would only have sex with a guy I love and has a future with. So if that occurs and if the guy will stay by me and will do it together, I won't abort
Well a pregnancy after the age of 40, comes with risks like chromosomal disorders. But still I am not sure. It would depend on if I am healthy to go through it, if i have lot of kids and one more would seem troublesome, etc.
Don't you think she should have been more careful and if not should have given birth?
Well obviously she should have been careful. But if it happened, I am sure she was just looking what's good for her and those around her. Maybe she didn't have the energy to go through it