What was God thinking when he gave some of us such an intense, sometimes overwhelming, sexual desire, or is that the devils fault?

[laurieluvsit]

Were we created by God to seek after and enjoy a sexual existence or was it a curse put upon us by the devil?

If some of us were not created to have an almost uncontrollable craving for sex, than why are there so many male bible characters that had several wives, or one wife and several concubines, or both, in order to satisfy his craving.

Even some women trapped in these harems who were not selected that day for the sexual pleasure of their master may have resorted to a lesbian affair to satisfy her overwhelming craving for the sexual satisfaction that she needed until her turn came up again.

Was that the devil causing all those sexual needs in both men and women, or were we given those needs and desires by God from birth?

I was born with this need and craving inside me

[Lynx122]

I don't believe in god I believe sexual desires are there because it's one of the most important things in life and the variety in the strength of the sex drive is just like the variety in everything else. Diversity is the prerequisite for evolution because if we're all the same we're all gonna die to the same shit and there's not gonna be much selection so we need to be different. But if there was a god, god created us and gave us our desires so if no sex before marriage is so important why did he make people want to have sex before marriage in the first place? Religions are just rules written AFTER we already existed and tailored to our reality that's how you know it's not from god. If an all powerful all knowing being designed the world it would be a lot sleeker, less chaotic, less horrible things happening everywhere etc.

I feel like even people could do a better job than god did if we got the best and brightest minds together and had to design a new planet with new people and animals and we could do it however we wanted I feel like the stuff they would come up with would be better than this place. You can see it in videogames the worlds created there are sick. But this beeing is all knowing and all powerful and couldn't do better than this? And why are people always at fault for everything? If you have someone who's at the top of the hierarchy like a boss or a GOD who created the whole planet then aren't they responsible for how it turns out?

In the bible god makes the "perfect" world and then he just leaves and everything after that is our fault but what is he doing in that time? Is he not responsible for this planet anymore? He's god he has the power to change anything so he's also responsible for everything bad that's ever happened on this planet. You can't call yourself god and then just run away from any responsibility. With great power comes great responsibility and god is all powerful but has no responsibility for earth? And all the people that say every suffering is part of some bigger plan I just wanna laugh at them tbh.

P. S. I like the pics for C and G :)

[laurieluvsit]

... some good points... and good taste :)

[Lynx122]

Thanks :)

[AllieOops]

why is your thread coming up in my notifications after 2 months? I've seen no new opinions. The last entry was a month ago. I seem to be getting a lot of them lately.

[laurieluvsit]

@AllieOops You attached your question to someone else's opinion :) Someone clicked on the upvote and that brought it out into the current live feed. Hope that helps answer your question Ms Allie :)

[Curmudgeon]

"God uses lust to impel man to marriage, ambition to office, avarice to earning, and fear to faith." - Martin Luther

[Curmudgeon]

see also https://christiannymphos.org/

[laurieluvsit]

EXCELLENT!! Thank you!

[AllieOops]

God created sex for procreation and I'm sure for enjoying that part of creation. If you read the Song of Solomon it shows God is ok with sex. What He is not OK with is how sex has been profaned over time to be just for fun and for the depravity of how it is used. Porn and the sex trade are not something that God ordained, it was men's desires. He didn't design all the orifices in the human body for sex, just the Vagina yet again men's desires has also profaned that. If anyone's sexual desires are intense and overwhelming - can one be underwhelmed?- it is from sex in movies, on social media, porn, magazines, videos, and the fashion industry where models have to look skinny yet voluptuous, and every bikini and panty are thongs and barely there in material. Girls seem to be having sex at even more younger ages. They aren't even allowed to be kids anymore. So God doesn't give you an intense sex drive, it comes from what your visual senses perceive in society today with it's hookup culture and sites such as Instagram and Tinder, to name a few, as there are literally thousands of sites catering to sex.

[douride2]

The devil made me do it.

[laurieluvsit]

He's keeping us both busy! ... lol

[AllieOops]

I see you weren't asking for a serious answer.

[laurieluvsit]

@AllieOops I like many answers Ms Allie. Unfortunately GAG doesn't allow you to select them all. It wasn't my intent to hurt your feelings by not selecting yours as the best, please forgive me.

[AllieOops]

I'm not sure what is going on here at this site. I see a lot of very short replies that get MHO over more well thought out answers. It almost seems like nepotism. :(

[PrudentGuy]

You brought up men of old with multiple wives. That is what was written.

Regarding the animals, it was written, in Genesis 1:22 "And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth."

Regarding Adam and Eve in Paradise (not dying) it wrote in Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it..."

Note the similarities of the words of blessings to animals and to Adam and Eve. The only great difference was Adam and Eve were suppose to be immortal, live forever in Eden without dying.

Hence I did not vote because this factor was not in any of your choices.

Post-Eden lifestyle was tough and rough. Post-flood was worst. But Noah and his children made it.

They populated the earth even in incest. And God allowed it because there was no choice. 4 couples. Without incest the earth cannot be populated.

Hence was incest from the devil or merely permitted by God? Same with polygamy. It was approved in the OT but not in the NT. Yet the same human desire remains.

Is God playing both Holy and Evil? You decide.

[I-am-a-nobody]

I'd argue that the animals were to be immortal, too since death came through Adam and then death. I Corinthians 15:21-22 For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive. Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned—

[PrudentGuy]

@I-am-a-nobody interesting interpretation of 1 Cor 15 for many took it to refer to death entering the realm of mankind, not animal kind. For me, Ecclesiastes 3:18 "I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts. 19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity." These 2 verses are comparison of men and beast - that man are no superior to beast because both die. The last part of verse 18 "that they might see that they themselves are beasts." seems to imply that in the begjnning, beast die and Man don't, hence there is superiority. Just my interpretation.

[PrudentGuy]

@I-am-a-nobody also, assuming Adam's sin caused animals to die, this would mean Christ death would redeem the animals too. But Revelation 20:12 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." The two verses spoke only the resurrection of dead men, not animals because the deeds of men (according to the moral standard of God) is the basis for judgement. Animals don't have those morals. Hence my 2nd interpretation of Revelation is, only man are given resurrection, not animals. This means, the original sin affects man only, because animal kinds don't have immortal life.

[PrudentGuy]

@I-am-a-nobody finally, the procedure of creation was interesting: Genesis 1:21-23 wrote it was the 5th day that flying creatures, beasts and sea creatures were created. They were not made in God's image. But the 6th day was different Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." Yes, Man is to be superior to beasts. Not only Man was created on a dedicated day itself, Man bear the image of God, and immortality is one of the attributes of God. From these, I interpret the scriptures to place Man as superior to animals, eternal while animals are not. And all the "dramas" written in the Bible are about rescuing Man (kind) from death, not animals, because from the beginning, animals do not enjoy eternal life.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@prudentguy First, I don't mean to imply that men and animals are equal. Just that... Animals didn't die before the fall. I'm open on the "animals resurrected" question. And yet... Romans 8:22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. Looks like the whole of creation is looking for redemption or gets redeemed. Also, only plants were for food before the fall. In the millennium carnivores eat plants. In Genesis 3:21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them. If animals died before the fall, God could have clothed Adam and Eve in the skins of "roadkill". This undermines the whole, "without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin" concept. (Good discussion!)

[PrudentGuy]

@I-am-a-nobody Romans Chapter 8: this entire chapter in context is talking about Christ's redemption of humans, not animals. (If you are interested to hear my understanding, open you Bible to Romans Chapter 8.) The opening verse 8:1 starts with the word "therefore", which implies Paul continues his discussion from Chapter 7, which we will not discuss. 8:1, 2 bring up the Law and Law of the Spirit. Animals cannot follow either. Only man can and Paul told the Romans to follow the Spirit because "2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death." Also notice Paul used the word "me" indicating he knew he was saved. He thus imply that not all are saved by virtue of Christ's death. The following verses (long passage) showed INDIVIDUALS must follow the Law of the Spirit to be saved. Hence 8:5 "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace." All these are written for men, not animals to follow. This also imply Christ did not come to save animals. And more importantly 8:14 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God." Man can be sons of God because (they already are) Adam was made in God's image. And Christ "legally" made the adoption of sinful man who are alienated from God possible. And animals are no part of the heavenly deal. For they cannot follow the Spirit neither are they made in God's image.

[PrudentGuy]

8:16 "The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together." Yes, heirs. Those who follow Christ have the same resurrection as Christ and become heavenly heirs. Animals can't inherit the heavens. Even the Law forbids live animals from entering the Temple of God, never the Holy of Holies. Hence 8:22 is talking about not just the literal birth pain, but the necessity for Christ followers to go through the process of death (painful) before the resurrection to heavens can happen. Read the rest of the Chapter yourself and the context will show you it's all about Man, not animals. And if animals has no chance to be eternal, they must be mortal from the beginning for otherwise it was never fair to them.

[PrudentGuy]

Regarding "If animals died before the fall, God could have clothed Adam and Eve in the skins of "roadkill"." Genesis 2:25 "And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed." Yes, God made Man and Woman naked and they were not ashamed. Just like all animals and particularly mammoths, Adam and Eve were comfortable with the way God made them. They were clothed with "human skin" - a quality product we enjoy looking, touching and holding. In fact if you think carefully, clothes were wrong. And it indeed is: Genesis 3:7 "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;" Yes, they ate the forbidden fruit, and then felt ashamed of who they were. They tried to cover their transgressions but of no avail. This is where God found the need to cover them. And by the way, the clothes were made BEFORE they were expelled from Eden. 3:21 "Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them...23 Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. 24 So he drove out the man..." So it begs the question "where did God get the animal skin before Adam was drove out of Eden?" My easy answer is, animals were everywhere on earth (including the sea, which is outside Eden). God simply took some of the carcasses and made into clothes for Adam and Eve. PS: I had thought about the topic "human nakedness - is it a sin?" for a long time and wrote a scriptural-based reasoning for it. I'm not a nudist, but my conclusion is God is OK with man (kind) being naked in flesh, but not OK being naked in Spirit. If we have the opportunity we share the thoughts.

[PrudentGuy]

(And I think we just hijacked this thread 😁😁😁 If you like to continue discussion, please PM me instead. This shall be my last reply here.)

[horsenrhinounicorn]

Each person has a form of temptation that they will become overwhelmed with. There is a choice between yes and no for some things and for others they can be used for good or for evil. Even Jesus himself was tempted by the devil for 40 days. We each are given a way to be free or to be a slave to sin. One can be set free from the one who is without sin.

[topur]

We don't have such an intense uncontrollable desire for sex. There some cases , but those are the exception.

Most people only have such strong desire because all we see online or tv or in music is about sex: half naked people, shows where the relationships are only define by sex or the plot runs around who has slept with who, an many other things.

It all shows, music's and internet ads were about gardening we would always be thinking about gardens.

So, we do have a desire for intimacy but it's like most of the time we are practicing on increasing that desire.

[DizzyDesii]

God gave us freewill. The devil tempts us with sexual desires before marriage

[laurieluvsit]

Is that good or bad? ... lol

[DizzyDesii]

Considering we shouldve waited til marriage to have sex and he's the devil, what you think...

[laurieluvsit]

I think being a little naughty sometimes is forgivable :)

[DizzyDesii]

Of course its forgivable if you pray for forgiveness or repent. But im just saying that the temptation comes from the devil. Freewill comes from God.

[laurieluvsit]

OK, I understand :)

[Lliam]

What is this god you speak of? Lol

[standingUP]

The Bible clearly states marry and and enjoy her abundantly.. The only thing your missing is the Marriage part.

[Flower7]

I picked D. I think it's probably a mix between God and devil.

[Yourluckypenny]

I'm super horny almost all the time. Just the way it is

[laurieluvsit]

Join the club... wait... is there one? ... lol

[Yourluckypenny]

It's nice to know that I'm not alone in this lol. we could start one. I seriously play with myself at least twice a day

[ThePityPartyGirl]

Of course he created sex but only for reproduction and faithfulness to one person.

[Stellargasm]

I once heard a preacher say there would be great feasts in heaven even though gluttony is a sin. I guess under that logic there’ll be great orgies too.

I had a penthouse magazine a long time ago with two girls dressed as angels doing a girl on girl scene and fucking each other with a golden rod. Two beautiful women having sex with each other is heaven in my opinion. Watching it is like eating chocolate cake with chocolate icing, it’s the most decadent of the indulgences.

[Madhatter920]

Why did God create the devil? There's no logical answer because nothing involving god has logic. Because there isn't one and people weren't good at story writing back when those books were originally written. It's not their fault. Not many people could read or write and they had to focus more on surviving. But the quality clearly suffered. It's not a well-written story.

[I-am-a-nobody]

It's called "freewill", which God has given to us and it's better than "living" as a robot. Ever think that an omniscient being might know better than you about what's ultimately best?

[Madhatter920]

No. I think there isn't an omniscient being. A fictional character can't know more than the author.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@madhatter920 Well, if you ever get the courage to consider that an omniscient being might exist, then you might understand why that being would create other beings with a freewill rather than robots.

[Madhatter920]

And if you ever get the courage to accept that there isn't a magic man in the sky watching over you and you are actually alone and no one gives a shit, you'll understand that none of it matters.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@madhatter920 Well, if there is no God or even no resurrection, then yes, as you said, "none of it matters". The book of Ecclesiastes ("vanity of vanities, all is vanity"), a very logical book by the way, agrees with this. Even the Apostle Paul said this in I Corinthians 15:13-14,19 and 20a, 32-33 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised; 14 and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain. ... If we have hoped in Christ in this life only, we are of all men most to be pitied. ... But now Christ has been raised from the dead... If according to man I fought wild beasts in Ephesus, what is the profit to me? If the dead are not raised, "Let us eat and let us drink, for tomorrow we die." Do not be deceived: "Bad company corrupts good morals." If Christ isn't raised it's all meaningless, but Christ HAS been raised, so it's ALL meaningful (and logical). I Corinthians 1:18 For the message of the cross is foolishness to those indeed perishing, but to us being saved it is the power of God.

[Madhatter920]

You said it's logical, but then it makes the claim that Christ has been raised, which is impossible, and then provides no evidence to back up the claim. That's the problem with the whole bible. It says God gave you free will, but he also created hell to send you to if you ever use it. In hell, you suffer for all eternity because god loves you. And that's totally logical because I said so. You don't think that maybe it makes just a little more sense that it's just a fiction book written by normal people and that's maybe why it's covered in plot holes from beginning to end?

[I-am-a-nobody]

@madhatter920 "You said it's logical, but then it makes the claim that Christ has been raised, which is impossible, and then provides no evidence to back up the claim." Why is it impossible? If there is an omnipotent being, then He can raise anyone from the dead. However, if you go in assuming, "There is no God (or god)!" a priori, then you'll never believe anything in the Bible, because the Bible mentions God a whole lot. God might show Himself to you like He did to Paul, But in the meantime read the testimony of Gospels for the proof. "It says God gave you free will, but he also created hell to send you to if you ever use it. " I can use my free will to drive 100 mph in a school zone, too, but it's the WAY I used it that made me wind up in jail. God is just. People go to Hell by their own choice.

[Fatherhere901]

In Genesis, the first chapter in the bible, God gave Adam and Eve a paradise to live in, with one simple rule: "Don't eat from the 'Tree of Knowledge' ". During this time, God allowed both of them to explore and enjoy the paradise where they were placed, with no other restrictions. I do believe this was also without clothing and completely without modesty.

Then, The event with the apple happened. As punishment, God caste them away from Eden, Let them keep the knowledge they were nude, which in turn, gave them the feelings of being ashamed of their bodies.

God never took away their desire to have sex or to have sexual desires. God only took away the paradise that allowed them to never have to work for what they got.

In short, people, all the way back to our creation, we have always wanted to make love. It is only been other people's opinions that make us think we shouldn't.

[laurieluvsit]

That's a great take, I like it, thank you :)

[Fatherhere901]

Kisses, Laurie.

[mistixs]

Sexual desire is a natural God-given force, meant to encourage us to achieve union with another human being (and possibly reproduce with them, although that's not necessarily the primary purpose as demonstrated by how many times God chose to close the wombs of married women in the Old Testament).

Anyway, this natural God-given desire can be perverted due to the human sinful nature (research the "yetzer hara"). This is similar to how hunger is a natural God-given desire, but our sinful nature can pervert it so that we are tempted to engage in gluttony, which is a sin & can be very destructive to our lives, health, and well-being.

[ZackBan]

Love the pictures as always.
And I think since "God works in mysterious ways" it's pointless to try and guess what he was thinking but I believe that if we are programmed with a certain emotion then we are made to act on it. And that's why I don't believe sex is a bad action or something the devil puts in our path. And even it was... I'm afraid I can't do much about it.

[i1T2daty]

It's a built in survival of species mechanism. Long before monotheism, the prevailing theology was #1 feminine and #2 centered on fertility rituals

[I-am-a-nobody]

Sex is wonderful, God invented it. God created Eve to be a suitable helper to Adam and part of that meant giving Adam pleasure sexual. Likewise, Adam gave her sexual pleasure. That people have corrupted this marvelous gift from God is NOT God's fault. Multiple spouses wasn't God's plan. People did it, but it wasn't what God wanted.

Jesus said in Mark 10:6-8 (CAPS means He's quoting the OT):
“But from the beginning of creation, God MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE. 7 “FOR THIS REASON A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS FATHER AND MOTHER, 8 AND THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH; so they are no longer two, but one flesh.
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Note: God's plan is for 2 to become 1, not for a guy to have multiple wives. Which always made for a mess. (see the families of David and Jacob and Solomon's life in quote near the bottom).
A lot of sexual sin is because we feed that desire, So, if a person, whether pagan or Christian, looks at porn, they're going to be enticed to have sex, whether in marriage as God intends or in an illicit relationship.

James 1: 13-17
Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am being tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone. 14 But each one is tempted when he is carried away and enticed by his own lust. 15 Then when lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and when sin is accomplished, it brings forth death. 16 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren. 17 Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow.
Note: Sin brings forth DEATH! People may think they're getting away with it, like David did with Bathsheba, but they're not.

As I said elsewhere...
If you think religion is anti-sex, you haven't read "Song of Solomon.
The Bible addresses sex as a positive, but only in the context of marriage.

I Corinthians 7:9
"But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion."

Proverbs 5:18-19
Let your fountain be blessed,
And rejoice in the wife of your youth.
19 As a loving hind and a graceful doe,
Let her breasts satisfy you at all times;
Be exhilarated always with her love.

Elsewhere in the Bible, Solomon laments how meaningless sex and other pleasures are when people seek pleasure for its own sake. In Ecclesiastes 2, Solomon says:

I said to myself, “Come now, I will test you with pleasure. So enjoy yourself.” And behold, it too was futility. 2 I said of laughter, “It is madness,” and of pleasure, “What does it accomplish?”... I provided for myself... the pleasures of men—many concubines... I did not withhold my heart from any pleasure, ... and behold all was vanity (meaningless).

This is a man with hundreds of women, but ultimately it was unsatisfying
So, mere sex for the sake of sex doesn't ultimately satisfy.

You have to ask yourself, "What kind of life do I really want?"

[BuckWild]

God? Devil? What the hell are you talkin about?

[Cherokeehp]

If you believe in God in the religious sense then technically God is responsible for everything. God created the entire world, us, and the devil. He is an all powerful and all knowing being. Therefor God knew exactly what each and everyone of us would do, including the devil. And that also means that God would have had the power to prevent anything he didn’t want to happen. That means that God is responsible for anything the devil is responsible for. Thus, God is responsible for some people’s high sex drive.

[laurieluvsit]

Wow, I never heard it put that way... that makes a lot of sense, I like it! Thank you :)

[Cherokeehp]

No problem

[Fatherhere901]

My belief, is like many others... There isn't an entity we identified as "The Devil" except as the gate keeper of the underworld. All acts, for or against people, have been the action of "God".

[Ericalovescats]

The book of song of songs literally is about sex between husband and wife. In fact 1 Corinthians 7 literally says if you can't control your passions get married.

God has no issue with sex as long as it's in marriage according to the Bible.

Plus at the time the Bible was written people got married younger anyway so it's not like they'd have to "wait" as long.

[normalice]

i think it's the instinct to share heat. The friction of dick pushing its way into a tight orifice helps lonely people stay warm. Plus the energy spent holding her down and her energy spent testing such restraints - it's all very comfortable. The inevitable orgasms are merely pleasant surprises, and a way to reduce each other to just two people with satisfied needs.

[laurieluvsit]

OMG! ... that was erotic... you should be a writer :)

[normalice]

Heh. I do have my moments of inspiration. Sadly I'm almost never near a keyboard when o get them... thank you, though :-D

[PrudentGuy]

How I store my inspiration is start a WhatsApp chat with myself in it (add then remove a friend) After that, that "Group" only has yourself. Whenever you have an inspiration, just type from your mobile.

[normalice]

I did something like that on wattpad. I actually wrote a "final first draft" of a completed story, but it needs heavy editing and I just plain don't want to..