Your kid's teacher used to be in porn or paid her way through college as a hooker. Are you ok with her teaching your kids in school?

[Succubus-slayer65]

[jsincal]

Lets ask this question in reverse. If you found out your hooker or favorite porn star use to be a teacher, would you trust her enough to have sex with you and would you refuse to watch her porn out of principal because she was a teacher to pay her way to becoming a porn star?

What about this, when a guy has sex with many girls all these men think he's a stud an wears that badge with pride. If a woman does that, the sad thing is she is deemed as a "slut", "whore", etc. This is the sad illogical part of our world that is demeaning towards women.

When there is contradiction by reversing the role or situation, then you know its bullshit and shouldn't be judging. Thats the idea.

Need Logical Representation?

here's Mathematical Proof:

A + B = B + A. So therefore B + A = A + B.

A x B = B x A. So therefore B x A = A x B.

You can't have logical contradictions. Thats what simple mathematical proofs where designed like this. This is the road to logic and to erase all prejudice.

End of the day, she's a human being trying to be a teacher. Labels are made for soup cans. So just because she did porn in the past doesn't mean you should treat her anything less than a human being. And being an educator, is not an easy task especially coming from a lucrative field. Whatever it is she should be praised for helping children with shitty pay that her job comes with.

Remember: Sex is a form of self expression. Sex on camera is an art form. We've been drawing it in caves thousands of years ago.

[Succubus-slayer65]

Not sure what your getting at but if you want to reverse things around how about Mr Ben Dover or Long Dong silver or mandingo of Rocky ballboner teaching your 10 year old daughter?

[I-am-a-nobody]

@jsincal Your post displays the limits of your so called logic when it comes to morality... So, because some morons think a guy is a stud, we should let porn stars teach our kids. This only makes sense in the porn you've been watching way too much of. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

[jsincal]

Only those that have been discriminated understand. As you have pre-judged me in thinking you know me. But I do I respect your opinions and belief sets. If I lived your life through the glasses you are wearing, I probably would see things the way you do.

[jsincal]

@succubus-slayer65 I think I’m fee real if they are qualified and pass the same standards then I don’t see why not. Equality for all is the basis our our constitution. I’m from an ethnic background. I’ve been harassed by white supremacist. Do I like their group and ideology? No. But I do believe in the the constitution and bill of rights. So would I protect white supremacist right to free speech? Yes. Do I like them? No. And this is because Martin Luther King Jr. letter from Birmingham Jail, a line he says, “ Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.”

[I-am-a-nobody]

@jsincal By the way, every human being has been discriminated against. I'm a White Protestant Male in the US and I've been discriminated against. Ethnicity is one thing that someone is born with. Ethnicity doesn't influence your behavior. If someone robbed banks for a living, their former occupation (behavior) is probably a good indication of future behavior. That's why former bank robbers rarely work as tellers in a bank. Likewise, someone who is willing to "perform" in porn has made a moral compromise in the past that may be an indicator of poor moral choices in the future. Honestly, we already have too many teachers having sex with their students as it is. If your moral compass is broken, none of this probably makes any sense to you (and it has absolutely nothing to do with your ethnicity).

[jsincal]

I’m sorry you have been through so much discrimination as a white Protestant male. I respect your right to classify and discriminate people accordingly to your personal preference. That is within your right protected under the constitution. I respect your beliefs.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@jsincal Well, I sure don't respect your beliefs, but you are entitled to them, no matter how misguided they are. I discriminate based on behavior. How your ethnicity could possibly figure in that equation is beyond reason. You want to play the victim card, with "Only those that have been discriminated understand.", but it makes no sense in this case. I'm discriminating against people who practiced a certain behavior. I'm not insisting that they wear a "P" on their chest for "pornstar". I'm just insisting that they don't work with our children.

[jsincal]

I understand you believe you are right. I respect your beliefs.

[JackSmy]

@jsincal WELL stated, but I think you went over most of the parent's heads with LOGIC! LOL! So many won't get it, but a good post!

[JackSmy]

@jsincal Trying to get sense out of @i-am-a-nobody is like trying to turn lead into gold! I just doesn't happen!! He is a BRUTAL bigot, and hates on anyone that doesn't agree with him! Best to just avoid him or block him!

[jsincal]

@JackSmy Thank you! Lol yes it seems like people are capable of logic but when it conflicts with their personal beliefs, logic is out the window. It’s very simple, and yet ego gets in the way. Logic is a beautiful tool to help see the illogical sides of things.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@jsincal @jacksmy "... it seems like people are capable of logic but when it conflicts with their personal beliefs, logic is out the window. ..." Ever think that maybe people's personal beliefs are based on a logic that you're incapable of? (It's rhetorical. Of course you couldn't. Your too busy applying mathematical formulas to your amoral utopia.) So, now you're claiming I'm a bigot because I make judgments based on... past behavior. Oh the horror! I guess you'd be OK letting "former murderers" and "former pedophiles" teach your kids. I mean why not, only a bigot would keep a "former pedophile" from working with kids, right? Enjoy your little moral vacuum, but the rest of us will go on living in the real world.

[jsincal]

@i-am-a-nobody the assumption isn’t based on former murderers or former pedophiles as you stated. Not sure if you understand what those words are. Please first consult a dictionary. If you do know what they are, you’re making delusional accusations and making presumption on a future that doesn’t exist. If you think you can, please consult a psychiatrist. Please also have a full understanding of what “moral” is and understand what you refer as the “real world” is subjective, and not everyone conforms or sees the way you do. As you say... you are a nobody.

[JackSmy]

@I-am-a-nobody Now you are making totally baseless statements, and a 'reductio-ad-absurdum' argument, that is baseless, because it is totally absurd with the teacher licensing rules. No parent would allow ex-murderers or pedophiles to teach or even be close to their children! Face it, dude, your argument is baseless, and the more absurd you make it, the more desperate and foolish you look trying to defend it!

[I-am-a-nobody]

@JackSmy And just why is it against the licensing rules? Isn't is because we want to protect our kids from people who participate in immoral behavior? Who is more likely to have sex with their student, an ex-porn star or an ex-fireman or an ex-rocket scientist or an ex-fast food worker? Go ahead and be purposefully obtuse about it, but I think we all know the correct answer. You obviously don't have kids OR else they're being raised by someone else.

[jsincal]

@JackSmy I do not see any such rule under licensing where it asks if one was a porn star. And to do so can be cause for discrimination since it’s considered artistic expression and protected under the first amendment of constitution. The question is, doesn’t the school ask about all forms of expression during the hiring process? If not the singling out is discrimination. But also not anyone’s business. But under licensing rules, if they qualified to teach then it shouldn’t be a problem. There’s no statistic/studies provided with the likelihood of students having sex with teachers for those teachers that were previously porn stars. I do see multiple statistics where out of all the prosecuted complaints of teachers sexually harassing students are based on psychology and NOT previous background of work. In fact I don’t see any correlation between sexual harassment of students and teachers who were previously porn stars. Abusers are people with “predatory” behaviors and from different backgrounds where it’s hard to find any absolute correlation. But I did read 30% are females who sexually harass students. So would that mean we need to stop hiring men who represent up to 70% of the sexual harassers? If it shows a higher percentage for a certain race would you also discriminate upon that? Let me answer the hard ones for you m... No, only a simple minded buffoon would do this. That’s why you cannot make wrongful assumptions. What you say is NOT based on fact.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@jsincal "There’s no statistic/studies provided with the likelihood of students having sex with teachers for those teachers that were previously porn stars." There probably isn't a study on or statistic for former prostitutes or concentration camp guards or transvestites either, yet I don't want any of them teaching my kids. "But I did read 30% are females who sexually harass students. So would that mean we need to stop hiring men who represent up to 70% of the sexual harassers? If it shows a higher percentage for a certain race would you also discriminate upon that?" Again, you must be deliberately obtuse. Sex and "race" are something you're born with. It has nothing to do with BEHAVIOR OR PAST BEHAVIOR. Did I print that big enough so you can see the distinction? I'm discriminating based on behavior or past behavior. Your ethnic background is irrelevant to the the whole issue. Someone's race is irrelevant (No doubt you've learned logic from former porn-stars.) How about this idea? You should have a bunch of kids that you pour your heart and soul into raising right. Then you can do a study where you have ex- porn-stars, strippers, prostitutes and whatever else teach them. Then report back here and give me the results, fair enough? You couldn't have kids. You're too worried about evil discrimination and not concerned about kids.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@jsincal @jacksmy Do either of you have kids?

[jsincal]

@JackSmy It seems like the logical conversation with a terrorist. If I ask a religiously fanatical terrorist, “why are you killing all these people. It’s against any religious doctrine.” I’m sure Terrorist would respond, “Im not killing, I’m saving these people” That being said. 1.) I respect your personal beliefs.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@jsincal @jacksmy Well, I'm not a religious terrorist, but go ahead and toss one more non sequitur out there if you must. And yes, I still don't respect your personal beliefs. You both have a broken moral compass. I can only hope neither of you ever reproduce.

[jsincal]

Sometimes when people tell you you smell like shit, you just need to look underneath your shoes. My friend you smell like shit. I’m just saying just clean it off before you are allowed into my house. You can cry, yell, attack, defend, scream etc. but it won’t change the fact you smell like shit. The truth hurts. But it’s well intentioned. I completely understand you think you don’t smell like shit. After all we get use to the smell of our surroundings. But nonetheless... you smell like shit. I respect your personal beliefs.

[I-am-a-nobody]

@jsincal That smell is from stepping on your toes. And no,... You in no way respect my personal beliefs. At least man up and don't be a hypocrite about it. You started with an implied moral equivalence between teaching and being a porn-star. Somehow you went downhill from there, playing the victim card, going on about discrimination and harassment because of your ethnicity, which is totally irrelevant. Of course, "Only those that have been discriminated (against) understand" (Boo hoo.) Implying you understand, but others just couldn't. From there you went further into "condescending jerk mode". To be fair, I may have been a little condescending myself, but it's hard to take your foolish argument seriously. Go ahead, ask anyone: Who would rather marry... a former porn star or a former teacher? Or who would you rather watch your kids? If you got 2 out of 10 picking the ex porn star I'd be amazed.

[jsincal]

I respect your person sets of beliefs.

[dmgstarfleet]

That depends on what she is teaching them. If she is certified by the state then she is competent. You cannot assume she will act in a criminal fashion when she has no criminal record. (Thinking more of the porn actress than the hooker). If your objection is that your sensitive little darlings might "come across" them then that says a lot about your failure to supervise your children allowing them access to hardcore pornography. Further, how traumatized could they be if they were already searching for hard core pornography?

[JackSmy]

@dmgstarfleet Thank you, Good Sir, for being the voice of Reason! Sadly, some cannot understand what you so clearly and concisely stated!

[Anonymous]

ABSOLUTELY! Who hasn't drooled over a hot teacher? We all know we want it, and hot teachers know people will pay for it. Do you know how little a teacher makes compared to people with other degrees? Why shouldn't teachers have a little fun and make a little extra in the process? As long as they are being professional at work, then it should be like any other job.

Making money from having fun and looking good doesn't make you a bad teacher. If a teacher inspires learning, and the kids love them, then that is what really matters. Teaching is already understaffed, undervalued, and lacking in quality. We should put the kids first. If they like the teacher and thrive under them, then that is the final word.

[HerLucidNightt]

A lot of people haven't drooled over a hot teacher wtf

[Opinion Owner]

@HerLucidNightt I guess they didn't have any hot teachers. Ha ha

[AllieOops]

Sure, the kids would love her showing her movies in class or teaching them how bras work and what the best sexual positions are. And to think we only got to watch science movies in grade school. I remember when May Kay Letourneau had sex with her 6th grade student and went to prison. When she got out of prison she married the kid. Male teachers are not the only ones who are do these things. I can see a stripper or sex worker could do the same.

[Opinion Owner]

@AllieOops Because strippers and sex workers are child molesters? You're hilarious! Most child molesters are people living next door to you looking and acting normal. Sex workers are over it by the time they get done. Most are pretty normal people as well. There are teachers who legally work as prostitutes and sex workers during summers and such. It wouldn't impact their work any more than a med student being a pizza delivery person to pay for school.

[Wonderer89]

I’d want to meet her, and get a gauge on her style and manner but if it was totally professional and appropriate for a child’s level I wouldn’t have a problem.
Most likely I wouldn’t care tbh, no teacher would be allowed to wear the above lol. My kid is going to come across all kinds of people in his life, it’s only my job to protect him from harm and I don’t see how someone’s prior profession is a danger to a child in this case

[AlienParasite]

I don't care about her past. The real question is, Is she a good teacher? Are kid progressing adequately? and maybe, Is she smart enaugh to moderate her language or attitudes according to context, and treat kids nicely?

[DizzyDesii]

Long as she wasn't in teacher/student porn. Otherwise her pedo ass gots to go

[daydreammarie]

That's the teachers business. As long as they are teaching my kids well and are a good teacher I don't know what job they had in order to get through college. Now if they are telling my kid to do the same or being inappropriate or talking about it I'd have a problem.

[JHwong]

As long as she makes a distinction between teaching and her private life. If she tries to pull anything seductive on my future kid, I would immediately take him/her away and file every kind of complaint known to humankind!

[AllieOops]

Obviously judging by the people who said yes they don't care very much about the moral quality of the teachers in their classrooms. I've heard of teachers taking her clothes off in class before. Porn stars and hookers are not anyone I'd want teaching children.

[NorthwestRider]

Let me guess, you are a religious looney nut?

[AllieOops]

@NorthwestRider Let me guess, your teacher undressed in class and you love it?

[AllieOops]

Or maybe you want some of your stripper girlfriends to get a real job?

[likelyOK]

He attacked me saying the same at least you go upvotes

[NorthwestRider]

Well I do not have a stripper girlfriend and I am not a closed minded conservative religious nut as well

[AllieOops]

@NorthwestRider You don't have to be religious, you just need a little morality in your soul. Seems people are getting away from wholesomeness and decency. I guess one step forward and 3 steps backward.

[AllieOops]

@likelyOK @that is because you have morals unlike the tards on this site

[likelyOK]

thank you, the same

[purplepoppy]

The fact is millions of women paid their way through education by working in the sex trade. We don't judge them so why judge teachers.

[beebsfeebs]

"wE dOnT JuDgE ThEm" Yes we do

[beebsfeebs]

Sex workers are disgusting... there is no nobility is people today

[FrenchyRomain]

@beebsfeebs and you're a zealout

[FrenchyRomain]

zealot

[beebsfeebs]

Piss off simp

[FrenchyRomain]

@beebsfeebs leading with insults... this does not look good for the insuing debate

[beebsfeebs]

It's not a debate, I'm done with you

[FrenchyRomain]

@beebsfeebs you insult people then run? what are you pathetic?

[Lliam]

No problem unless she is a sexual predator or something. Do you expect teachers to be like old fashioned, spinster school marms?

[MrNameless]

I don't care, as long as she doesn't try to have sex with my kid or any student in the school.

[EriFrancis1994]

Sure. She deserves to have a change in her life

[shagff]

Yeah right

[Shamalien]

What makes u think that?

[EriFrancis1994]

@Shamalien haven't you done things you regret before?

[Shamalien]

of course I have, but that doesn't mean I'm so naive and entitled to think I deserve the same fate as someone who didn't do those regrettable things.

[EriFrancis1994]

@Shamalien so you're saying people can't change? You wouldn't be supportive of someone trying to change?

[Shamalien]

I'm saying nothing of the sort, nor do I understand it's relevance to what I just said. Read carefully

[EriFrancis1994]

@Shamalien you're saying that if you do something regrettable in life, you don't deserve the same date as someone who hasn't done anything regrettable. How's that fair?

[Shamalien]

exactly the way you said it, right there, word for word, that is how it is fair. If you don't understand that, you are a naive child who lives in a fking fantasy world where actions don't result in consequences. Get your head straight. Some day you're gunna be old and people won't dance around you, they won't treat you like a baby anymore, you're gunna awaken to a world of harsh truth.

[EriFrancis1994]

@Shamalien lol I'm a child? I'm 25. And I'm not gonna argue with you about this cos we see the world differently and you aren't gonna change my mind and I'm not gonna change yours.

[Shamalien]

you don't understand logic. See, in the world, when you take actions, those actions have consequences. Sure, you deserve a second chance, but it's not going to be the same, pristine, shining, golden chance that the people who DIDN'T fuck up are gunna have. It's gunna be a shittier chance and you'll have to work even harder for it. Learn that. You may be 25 but you're a little kid in as far as your understanding of this concept is concerned.

[EriFrancis1994]

@Shamalien ok

[JackSmy]

Why not? Past is past!! What does her past have to do with who she is today, as a teacher?
What are you so afraid of? It's not like she/he will teach your kids how to 'work a pole' or wear a G-string!! Get real, and stop judging people for past things!!
Everyone makes mistakes, and who are you to judge?
Didn't Jesus say something about the one without sin, can throw the first stone?

[jemismyname]

i loled at option C

[SkipStop]

I got no problem with that. But there will be consequences if she makes a move on my son (if I had one)

[Succubus-slayer65]

What mandingo makes a move on your daughter?

[SkipStop]

Same thing I guess. I just would not expect her to make a move on my daughter.

[Mellontikos]

getting paid for sex is not something that children should think is acceptable.

[Curiositykilledcat7]

Punish her good

[FictionalCharacter]

🤨 Don’t hookers and porn stars get paid more than teachers? Cause some teachers secretly try that field out themselves 🤷🏻‍♀️

[Kurαȷ]

I wouldn't think she is fit to teach anyone, and I'm sure every serious educational institution out there would think the same.

[Smashingdoozy]

Nothing wrong with that and hey if anything maybe she can teach proper sex education.

[Succubus-slayer65]

Lol and so many women complain that men learn everything they know about sex from porn

[Smashingdoozy]

Difference is porn stars know shit isn't real but guys will still try do the thing that made the girl in the porno squirt

[Succubus-slayer65]

Not sure if taking 300 dicks a year qualifies a person to teach sex ed

[Smashingdoozy]

Not sure reading from an outdated text book does either

[Succubus-slayer65]

Text books are irealvent everything you need is online

[Shamalien]

Dumb bitch

[Smashingdoozy]

No need for bad language buddy.

[Shamalien]

No need to recommend a FUCKING PORNSTAR teach your children sex ed you STUPID, STUPID BITCH

[Smashingdoozy]

Lmao all I was saying is they would know a lot more than the average teacher.

[Shamalien]

don't reproduce

[Smashingdoozy]

Don't worry im infertile but I will be adopting and raising perfectly well educated children

[Succubus-slayer65]

Who become sex workers?

[Smashingdoozy]

If that's what they choose to be.

[Succubus-slayer65]

When you are being interviewed by the adoption agency don't say that lol

[Smashingdoozy]

Not a question they would ask. Pornography is a legal job that gets you a decent amount of money. You can't say that you are against sex work as im sure you watch pornography.

[USLegionary]

Probably not. I wouldn't want my kid espicially a daughter to think that it was ever ok to sell their body for money.

[confusedgamer]

Why not, if she finished college, and is allowed to teach, I'm fine with it. Even if she still does it as a side gig, I trust she is professional enough to keep them separated

[EmmaMary]

No absolutely not, and I would raising my most extreme concerns to the education authorities.