Does every woman feel sexually attracted to bad boys at least in one phase of her life?

Tonytoutouni123 Xper 6

I consider this to be true. At least, it applies to me.

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Thatˋs wrong. I never had a thing for bad boys.

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With Bad Boy I mean someone with negative characteristics and behaviour such as: Arrogance, unnecessary violence towards others (beating someone up out of fun), crime (bodily injury, drug selling etc.), exploitation of others etc.

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startingfitness Xper 5
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"bad boys" and "nice guys" are very loose terms and it can mean different things to different people.
But yeah , young, fertile women , and sometimes older women too are drawn to men, who can only be described as somewhat selfish and evil.
I think in psychology they say these men have a cluster B personality type ( I could have misspelled that). These guys are narcissistic, manipulative and often violent.
They are people who will seek power and success and take whatever risks to get there.

You can probably tell that such men are very problematic for civilized, modern society and why people would call them bad boys or worse names.
Women's attraction to such men is very primal. Back when we were very primitive beings, those men were likely to kill enemies, survive and mate with most women. So those traits were favourable. But as society becomes more complex, those traits become more problematic than useful. In modern society you need men who are cooperative, agreeable and can work together to solve problems. Otherwise barely any work could ever get done. True "bad boys" aren't agreeable enough or patient enough to do so and therefore they often end up antisocial or on the outskirts of society, as outlaws and criminals. Occasionally you have some very intelligent master manipulators who will make it to the top in society and those are the only type of "bad boys" who have a place in modern society. Unfortunately they are evil too and cause way more problems than average thugs or criminals.

In any case, women are drawn to such men in a primal way, in the way that men are drawn to breasts and booty. Most of us do realize that those aren't qualities necessary for a partner, but there are some men who only want to bang or be with girls with big breasts and asses. In the same way some women may look at those "bad boys" and realize they can't fit into a decent life and go for other men, but some girls unfortunately go for those men and hope they can have a good time.
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- startingfitness
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  and for those that still doubt it, just see how popular 50 shades of grey and 365 days are. 2 absolute trash movies that somehow were rated extremely high because of the large amount of female viewers. And if you look at the male characters, both of them fit cluster B personality type.
- Bellaco
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  50 shades is popular because its the first movie that is main stream and very sexual and aimed for woman. You call it disgusting but have you not seen porn? a lot of porn can be very disgusting. All 50 shades proofs is woman have a sexuilty and they love dominant pwerful men.
- WhistleForTheChoir
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  @Bellaco Ran face first into the point and still missed it.
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- startingfitness
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  @Bellaco there were other romantic movies before those and many of them were also sexual. They enjoyed views from both men and women, some maybe a bit more from one gender. But the problem with 50 shades and 365 days is that they aren't just powerful men they are evil men: both of those guys are men who are sc*m. Most men would not want to have a guy like that as a friend or an acquaintance. Yes porn can be disgusting, but we aren't glamourizing evil women. Porn is disguisting because it objectifies women. Women watching 50 shades are sexually rewarding evil men. Which is a huge problem in society. You women do not realize how much problems you are causing byy sexually rewarding evil men. The world would be a much better place of women naturally rewarded good men with sex instead of bad men.
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @startingfitness 💯💯💯 Bro I agree with you 100%! I've had that exact same thought. If evil behaviour would not be sexually rewarded but even punished by women, there would be much less crime and misery in the world. But in my opinion one cannot blame the women, because they don't choose it. Sexual arousal is subconsciously triggered. In order to put an end to this, we as men would in future have to impregnate only women who don't go for bad boys, so that these women can assert themselves evolutionarily. Then the bad boy phenomenon would soon no longer exist. But that is unfortunately an utopia.
- startingfitness
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  I actually do blame women for it because while they can't control their subconscious attraction, they could use their logical senses to get over those thoughts. Many women do that, but nowadays women are encouraged to own their sexuality so they give in to their desires. your solution is nice, but unfortunately there are too many women who are into bad men and they would get impregnated by those guys, unless we sterilize them or something lol. Back in the day families would get involved in marrying off their daughters, and they would look for a decent man who could provide for her. The woman ( and often the men) didn't have much of a say in it but this did ensure that they were much less likely to be abused or ending up single mothers or having a negative reputation. I'm not saying we should go back to this, but young, attractive women rewarding bad behaviour has certainly affected society in a negative way. We can say what we want, but almost all men in their youth are affected by the approval of women. This has an influence on our behaviour as adults.
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @startingfitness „I actually do blame women for it because while they can't control their subconscious attraction, they could use their logical senses to get over those thoughts. Many women do that, but nowadays women are encouraged to own their sexuality so they give in to their desires.“ yes, I understand. But it's a lot to ask a woman who only likes bad boys to never have sex with one and instead sleep with a good guy, even though she has no sexual interest in him. But still you have a point. „This has an influence on our behaviour as adults.“ Definitely!
WhistleForTheChoir Xper 6
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The women who say no actually do have a thing for bad boys, they just do some mental gymnastics to make all those men's bad traits into good traits. Being a bully, becomes "being a leader". Being arrogant is "confident". Being selfish is "knowing what you want." And so on. All women prefer amoral men with low self control. Some of the older ones get better at dealing with those men's bull-shit, but any woman who isn't in a relationship with one of these men eventually considers her partner boring and becomes bitter towards him.
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aWes0MeNeSs Guru
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I haven't been. I never got what was so attractive about them, myself, and if any guy I thought I liked at first started acting like an asshole or a "bad boy", I'd immediately lose interest. Any criminal or thuglike behavior has always scared me, and acting like a dick just makes me lose all respect.

Believe it or not, I've actually had two interested in me, though. I searched them in my local online court record system out of curiosity and found some really messed up stuff, including sexual assault and stalking. They already acted super weird and shady, but that made me go from "Nope" to "No way in hell!"

However, I know it seems to be very appealing to certain girls, especially young and naive ones.

The scary thing is that I had a friend with a fantasy about one of those types of guys kidnapping her and then "falling in love" with her and deciding to start a new life together, with him putting aside his bad boy act for her. That is nothing but a fantasy, and a very dangerous one at that. I always feared for her safety when she'd chase after guys like that, but luckily she finally cut it out and found a good guy.
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  I think i want to marry you 🙈
- aWes0MeNeSs
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  Lol, thanks!
goodgirl82 Xper 4
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If they have daddy issues yes. I think most of girls do. But some others had a very great relationship with their dad so that reduces their chances to be atteacted to bad boys. There are also girls that never get over that phase, they could even end up in violent relationships, being promiscuous, amd never getting to be taken seriously. Because they never learned how to have a vincule with men, so they exploit they sexuality to at least have sexual attention. Very sad, but I even saw a very deppressed girl in a bar, she was like 35 years, she was a little fat and using very small clothes and allowing men touching her, really disgusting men. At a moment in the night, I looked at her and she tried to smile but I could feel she was depressed. Girls with serious daddy issues have to work on them to get over that phase, otherwise, they could end up lost in life, with low self steem and never realizing that real relationships are not based on sex. Girls with daddy issues domt know this. When you grow, you start to think what is best for you or not. You could start working on you to attract better men, or not...
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- Sarahr123
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  I don’t have a good relationship with my dad and he left us when I was 11. I have barely had contact with him since then. I’m a sensible girl and I am most certainly not drawn towards bad boys. It’s about how clever the girl is. Some girls are just stupid and others are self-destructive. I would only understand someone going for bad boys if they were under 21 because I’d think they were just naive kids but anything older than that I would think they are just stupid.
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @goodgirl82 Well said
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @sarahr123 You are not drawn to Bad Boys, because you decide against them on a conscious level, although you consider them to be sexually attractive (on a purely sexually level), or do you just don’t have any sexual attraction to them? Which type of guy would you prefer if it was only about a one night stand? The good guy or the bad boy? “I would only understand someone going for bad boys if they were under 21 [...]“ Has this been the case with you and did it change at the age of 21?
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- goodgirl82
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  Ohh my dear I am kilometers away from those girls that have a one night stand :') I respect my body. But I have good taste if you ask. If I did not care about the person and only liked his physical appearance, my personal taste is: fit skinny men, white skin and beautiful face.

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Cynicaldreamer Influencer
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Not all of us. Even when I was younger, the bad boy types didn't appeal to me because I didn't want to be around a guy that would get me in trouble or wasn't into me. If seemed... stupid really.

Call me weird, but I always had a thing for the quiet, nerdy guys that are nice to me~
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  @cynicaldreamer Is there nothing about bad behavior that seems somehow attractive (in a purely sexual way)?
- Cynicaldreamer
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  @Tonytoutouni123 Not really. Again, that's just me. I can't speak for all women. Bad behavior to me just comes off as unattractive, or he's going to be trouble to deal with or date
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @cynicaldreamer Thanks for your opinion!
LittleTurtleDuck Xper 6
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Define "bad boy" 🤔
And how I pick a partner:
I usually go for personality and how they treat me/others.
And it does not matter what they did prior to meeting me, we live now.
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  @littleturtleduck Someone who, through his behavior, harms others. This can be someone who takes exploitation of the help/goodness of others in everyday life, up to someone who deals hard drugs, beats others up for no reason or even kills them.
- LittleTurtleDuck
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  Oh no, I resent those people. I stay away as far as possible from them
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @littleturtleduck Is there nothing about bad behavior that seems somehow attractive (in a purely sexual way)?
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  What’s type of bad boy is attractive to you?
- LittleTurtleDuck
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  There is nothing about bad behaviour that is sexually attractive to me. And no type of "bad boy" is attractive to me.
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @littleturtleduck Thanks for your opinion!
Bhaavyaaa Xper 2
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Okay so.. I was. Honestly i am just 18 and i have met somany assholees that are fuck boys or just pretend to be one.. That now i just want a genuine nice guy who won't play mind games with me and won't hurt me.. And i have no intention to change the fuckboy into an angel.. So just be nice. Once girls have gotten their hearts broken they need nice guys.. But others who are sensible fall for nice guys only! All the best ❤️
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  Ok I understand. Can you tell me what you found attractive about them? Was it that they often seem arrogant and aggressive? All the best for you too ❤️
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @bhaavyaaa
- Bhaavyaaa
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  I don't know specifically but i think the dominant part. And because you had to work hard to make them care about you (which they dont actually) and the mind games. Its just the constant thrill and newness you feel about them... But honestly the fact that nothing is stable and there is no commitment drives you away after a whilee... But some girls don't want commitment that is a different case
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  @bhaavyaaa I see. Thanks for sharing your opinion!
PonyCarGirl98 Xper 5
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I was at one point. Yes, they're still attractive to me, but I wouldn't necessarily date one just for those qualities alone.

I find that most "bad boys" have a lot of self-confidence, security, and courage. These qualities are very attractive indeed (by nature), but there are more valuable qualities, in my opinion, that make a good life partner.

On a more emotional level, I've felt in the past that "bad boys" tend to have a more realistic view of life, are not very judgmental, and understand how to handle hardship. For someone like me, those qualities are really appealing... but all people are different. People are so complex. Trying to understand a person and learning about them, is my favorite thing in the world...❤
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  @ponycargirl98 “I find that most "bad boys" have a lot of self-confidence, security, and courage. These qualities are very attractive indeed“ Is it only this, or is there anything attractive (in a purely sexual point of view) about bad behavior? Feel free to answer honestly. I won’t change my personality anyway 😄
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @ponycargirl98 Still curious about your opinion 🙂
TheFartSaver Xper 6
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I've never had a bad boy phase. I have always considered it overrated and sad.
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  @thefartsaver Is it that you deliberately decide against these men although you find them somehow attractive (in a purely sexual point of view) or do you just not feel any sexual interest in them?
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @thefartsaver Still curious about your opinion 🙂
BilyanasBeach Xper 3
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Yes, I was attracted, but not because they are bad boys nor because they have that reputation/ side. That's actually the reason I never tried to be in relationship with them.
I didn't vote because my answer is probably "other" or "C". I developed feelings for a guy who had the bad boy reputation but I saw a side of him that no one did, I mean he showed me it. He let me see him at his most vulnerable and he did amazing things for me when I was sad, things you would never think of a "bad boy" doing. But he is my friend. If I took things further, as his girlfriend, I would eventually face his bad boy side. I did allow myself to daydream about him etc but I would never love a bad boy nor be silly enough to think he would turn into a good guy for me when we are in a relationship.
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  Where did his bad boy reputation come from? You know what he did that gave him this reputation?
- Tonytoutouni123
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  Still curious about your opinion 🙂
CrazyGirl2 Guru
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Oh my God, no! I put “A” because I thought you meant a “bad boy” who like rode a motorcycle, or smoked cigarettes, or something. The kind of guy who likes AC/DC, and actually takes you to one of their concerts, and makes you WANT to have sex at the concert. Even though you did it in a way that nobody would possibly have known what you were doing, and although you are extremely private in the RW, the idea that people can actually see you getting truly fucked by a REAL man... gives you the most powerful orgasm of your life! But THEN I read what YOU consider a “Bad Boy” is nothing more than a violent psychopath, and I was desperately trying to change my vote to “B”.
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  @crazygirl2 Ok I understand. Thanks for your opinion! i am glad you have enlightened me.
HartleyB Xper 6
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I can see right through the act.. it's kinda lame to me when people try to be a bad boy, looks so try hard 😅
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  I don‘t mean someone who‘s trying to be a bad boy, but someone who really is. Do real bad boys are attractive to you?
- HartleyB
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  Like guys who think they are bad because they graffiti and drive fast? Guys who think they are smart because they watched a video on YouTube about "feminism is bad" and go around lecturing people on why feminism causes 5 bazillion deaths a day? Or is a bad boy just a guy who just sleeps around? What did you mean by bad boy? :)
- sensible27
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  Rutheless.
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  No, someone who just likes to have sex with lots of different women is not a bad boy. I mean someone who is very selfish, arrogant, self deserving and exploits others. Someone who does things that are useful to him even if he does a lot of harm to others in the process. Someone who deals drugs, someone who beats up others without a good reason, someone who has prison experience etc.
- Tonytoutouni123
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  Does this kind of man appears somehow attractive? Please stay honest :)
- HartleyB
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  Ohhhhh sorry, I think in my country we call that "Intenta fuerte" which means "try hard" or "Pedazo de mierda" which is "piece of shit" and no, that behavior seems to be more attractive to American women because of the culture but there is a reason we call them insults and some call them "bad boys" 😅
- Tonytoutouni123
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  I love your country 😂. What country are you from? Can you also participate in my survey „ Which one of these men would you pick for a One night stand? please select your number 1 and give your ranking in the comments?“ I'm curious to know which man you would choose.
- HartleyB
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  Spain 🇪🇸 just go to somewhere that isn't so much about the individual, unfortunately it is less and less common all the time I haven't seen your one night stand post but I don't do them anyway so my opinion is probably pointless 😅
- Tonytoutouni123
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  I have now invited you to the question :). Even if you don't do ONS. Please just choose the one you're most likely to take for a ONS. Or just imagine the question would be: "who do you find the hottest". Please write your answer in the comments.
- Tonytoutouni123
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  I have also invited you to another question on which I am interested in your opinion. I know you don’t do ONS but I am still curious. So if you are willing to answer, feel free :)
BeingAnzalKhan Xper 6
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Somewhat agree.. yes.. many woman has confirmed it. They do get attracted to bad boys. Because of their rude nature and being wild.
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chivesdak Xper 2
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I am 17 and I have never been attracted to "bad boys." To be fair, relationships of either the sexual or romantic sort take of very little space in my day-to-day thoughts. But I have only ever been interested in those who are polite, moral, and compassionate.

I thought I had a thing for smart guys before I realized that I don't care about intelligence as long as he is a deep thinker, and I thought I didn't like the flirtatious sort until I realized that it's charming given we have already developed a friendship. I don't care if he has flaws and internal struggles as long as he does not harm those around him. I can provide a long list of character flaws I can recognize in the guys I have grown fond of, so it's not perfection I'm after, but a willingness to work with me, be a friend to me, and to love.
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  Thanks a lot for your opinion!
Porcelaine Yoda
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You seem to have some insecurity of not having the attractive qualities that bad boys have, and want to convince yoruself that this is what ALL girls prefer at some point or in some way. MOST of the girls I know were never into bad boy type. If they dont get treated right even for a moment, thats a red flag that doesn't get ignored
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- Tonytoutouni123
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  It may look like insecurities to you, and that I want to see something confirmed. But i am not insecure about not being bad. I am rather proud of not being bad. I'm not bad for a reason! I ask these questions because a good friend of mine told me the other day why he was rejected by a woman. Let me tell you his story: He's doing an FSJ. (it is German and means: " voluntary social year". This is quite common among young adults in Germany. It is voluntary work for one year after school for a good cause). He works in a hospital. There he saw another female FSJ participant. They only talked very briefly and quickly exchanged mobile phone numbers. I have to say, he tried to look like a bad boy on purpose. He told me that he also took care to speak in a deep voice 😂😂😂😂😂. He looks optically like a bad boy (also wears a leather jacket), but he is not one. In the evening he wrote a little with her and she invited him to her room. So he went to her apartment and talked to her for about half an hour. He didn't pay attention to appearing like a bad boy anymore, but was just the way he really is. When he wanted to kiss her, she rejected him, and told him why she suddenly had no interest in him anymore. She said that in the beginning he looked like a bad boy and that this turned her on and that she now noticed that he was actually quite different, namely friendly and kind and therefore lost interest. He told me that he has learned his lesson and that this mistake will definitely not happen again to him 😎😂 The bad boy phenomenon is obviously 🤷‍♂️. I don't blame anyone, I just want to understand the whole phenomenon better. I also don't think that all women go for the bad boy type. At least currently ca. 40% of them claim they don't go for that type of guy. But I do think that women who are more open to ONS go for bad boys. And again, I don't blame a woman for anything. What you are sexually attracted to is controlled by your subconscious and you have no influence on it!
- Porcelaine
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  So your friend got rejected by one girl and now its a phenomenon? Oh please. Its a popular thing yes, but please do not assume all women care about this. "He told me that he has learned his lesson and that this mistake will definitely not happen again to him" I hope what he meant is that he will not pretend to be something else, not that he dropped the act. And yes, nice jaw, sexy jacket, confidence, all those things that might make someone look masculine are attractive, but violence, abuse, drug dealing, crimes, disrespect, bad attitude... please keep those separate. Your friend did not need to do any of that. He did not become a bad boy, just an edgy one.
- Tonytoutouni123
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  No he of course means that the mistake was to drop the act. If he wasn't acting, the girl wouldn't have invited him to her room in the first place. So that wasn't the mistake. I don't understand what you're criticizing. It's a great performance, to be able to pretend like that. And if it improves a nice, kind, and in no way evil man's chances with women, why shouldn't he do it? If he is interested in a long-term relationship with a woman, he will of course be 100% himself. Acting wouldn't make any sense then and also would be impossible to fake for a long time period. "but violence, abuse, drug dealing, crimes, disrespect, bad attitude please keep those separate." me and my friend are definitely not gonna be like that! It's all about creating the impression in a woman that this is who you are. But you're not really like that. It's enough to look mean and arrogant. You of course, don't have to start a fight in front of the girl or deal some drugs or something like that.
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- Porcelaine
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  What Im criticizing is that you're in some posts imply that women are attracted to guys who are criminals, drug dealers, abusive, violent. so I simply wanted for you to keep that separate from acting like a "bad boy", which is the silly attidude your friend put on for this girl. And you say if the relationship is long term, you would be themselves. So at what point would you drop the act then? :D let me tell you this, most smart women, who want a real man will not fall for some childish bad boy act or sleep with him for it either. Better actually build up confidence, self esteem that the bad boys have, develop your own style so you won't have to fake anything
- Tonytoutouni123
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  "What Im criticizing is that you're in some posts imply that women are attracted to guys who are criminals, drug dealers, abusive, violent. so I simply wanted for you to keep that separate from acting like a "bad boy" I'm glad that you strongly claim the opposite, but it's obvious to me that among other things it is negative qualities that make a man look attractive. Why do they call them "bad boys"? If it were the way you portray it, and it really is all about self-confidence, and self esteem, why then the term "bad boy" and not for example "confident guy" or "superior guy" or whatever? I want to clear up a few things:I think that almost no woman likes this guy's personality. It's all about a sexual desire that is subconsciously controlled. I also don't think that all women go for these types, but that there are a lot of women (about 40%) who hate these men. But I believe that women who don't like bad boys are generally not the type of women who want to have ONS and are also less sex driven and therefore look for a completely different type of man, namely a confident, but loving and helpful instead of antisocial thug. Thank god there are also many such women. I am also aware that you can behave completely morally correct, and still look extremely attractive to women (also for ONS). There is no need to stage yourself as a bad boy. But it is definitely advantageous, but only for short term dating.
- Tonytoutouni123
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  There are a lot of studies that support an evolutionary theory called the "ovulatory shift hypothesis". In simple terms, it states that women's partner selection preferences change during the course of the female cycle. This is due to hormonal changes in the female body during the female cycle. The following therefore does not apply to women who use hormonal contraception: Women prefer a completely different type of man during the infertile days (namely the friendly, loving, helpful, sensitive man) than during the fertile days (namely the more masculine looking, testosterone-loaded, arrogant and also more aggressive man). Women who use hormonal contraception should therefore tend to be less attracted to the bad boy type and more permanently to the "good guy" (perhaps this is how the 40% who have voted not to like bad boys can be explained 🤔. Just joking). This theory is sometimes controversial among evolutionary biologists, but there are many studies that support it. However, it is undisputed that women prefer a different type of man for short-term dating than for long-term dating. So, to sum it up: if a man is just longing for a relationship anyway and is not the type for ONS and booty calls, he can relax and stay himself (and maybe work on his self-confidence and things like that). On the other hand, if he wants to have an ONS every now and then, he has to be very manly, and ideally (unfortunately) should also act the bad boy type. Think about it: which man was the more successful one in the stone age? The man who always acted socially and fairly, or the man who killed others without scruples to take their resources. In any case, only the second type of man could reproduce afterwards. 😬🤷‍♂️
- Tonytoutouni123
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  "which is the silly attidude your friend put on for this girl." it might be silly, but it worked. "So at what point would you drop the act then?" You decide in the beginning if it's a woman you want to get to know better, or just someone you want to have sex with. If a woman dances in the club in a very permissive and sexual way, there is a high likelihood that she will go for bad boys and the acting can begin. "let me tell you this, most smart women, who want a real man will not fall for some childish bad boy act or sleep with him for it either" do not underestimate me and my friend 😉. "Better actually build up confidence, self esteem that the bad boys have, develop your own style so you won't have to fake anything" Yeah, I always think that's right anyway. And yes you don't have to be a bad boy, but it's an advantage.
- Porcelaine
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  @tonytoutouni123 you put a link of this in another reply on a different post. Well you can the same poll asking about not attractive people or someone who is not usually their type, on not desirable in any other way and you will get the same votes, saying yes at least once in their life that has happened to them. But if a girl in her whole life has chosen 14 good guys and 1 bad boy this does not show bad boys are attractive. It makes them the exception. Also 41% of women voted no, not even ONCE in their life or lives of other women. Thats almost half of girls.
- Porcelaine
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  Its 62 girls. If one is asexual and another one doesn't like bad boys, she might like bad girls and still vote option number one. And no that does not make it more like 85%, it drops by 2% at most. Next time do a poll with a third neutral option so you will see its still not 85%. even if you mentioned some youtube video where people ask outside the club bad boys vs good ones. That video has nothing to do with this poll. And I would like to see that video please.
- Tonytoutouni123
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  @porcelaine "Well you can the same poll asking about not attractive people or someone who is not usually their type.“ Okay, so you mean that my question was not precise. I should have asked: "Does every woman feel sexually attracted to Bad Boys at least in one phase of her life, because bad behavior is somehow appealing to them in that phase?" I agree with you a bit. "But if a girl in her whole life has chosen 14 good guys and 1 bad boy this does not show bad boys are attractive." That only happens when the woman accidentally chose a bad boy because she thought he was a good guy. If the woman is into bad behavior, she's more likely to choose 14 bad boys and one good guy. And it's very likely that she'll start an affair with a bad boy because she'll miss the bad. "Also 41% of women voted no, not even ONCE in their lives or lives of other women. Thats almost half of girls." Yeah, but like I said, I have reason to believe that some women aren't being completely honest on this topic. For example, I have also read answers like: "I don't find bad boys sexually attractive, except in movies, books, series etc. but not in real life". But that doesn't make sense to me. Either you find evil behavior sexually attractive or you don't. I think they mean that they find it attractive but don't want it in real life because they find it morally wrong. One woman first claimed that she only finds it attractive in movies, books, etc., but when I asked her again explicitly about a one-night stand, she admitted that she prefers bad boys in real life as well
- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  @porcelaine Besides, I have also invited many very young women, for example 16 year olds. But since you said that some of them don't even have a sex drive at that age, it is logical that they voted "no". So I estimate a value of about 5%-15% instead of 41% But that percentage is enough for me! Enough to marry one of these women one day. And until then, I'm faking the bad-boy image. So I'm happy with the results 😃 "Its 62 girls. If one is asexual and another one doesn't like bad boys, she might like bad girls and still vote option number one.“ I think that would be very unlikely because I think there was no evolutionary reason why bad behavior in a woman could have been beneficial and therefore attractive. In a man it may have been useful to be evil sometimes, for example to steal resources from someone or to use unnecessary violence, to signal strength to women and to have more respect in the social hierarchy. I believe that evil behaviour (such as unnecessary violence) in a woman is considered attractive by hardly anyone. When you talk about bad girls, you are not talking about girls who behave badly. You rather mean a woman who is kinky during sex and not an "angel". Many men like that, but it actually has nothing to do with the women being a bad person. "And no that does not make it more like 85%, it drops by 2% at most." That's true, although there may be 1-2 more asexuals who voted no. But even so, it doesn't change much. But in combination with my assumption that some women are not telling the truth and the YouTube videos in which women respond who are a little tipsy, I arrive at my estimate of 5-15%. With older women it might be different, but I am currently mainly interested in women between 18 and 25, so it doesn't help me to know that the 40-50 year olds might be more into good guys. "And I would like to see that video please." I'm sending you some links in the other question.
sagevalentineee Xper 6
+1 y
Not really.

Bad boys are sexualised by mainstream culture, male models with tattoos smoking on motorbikes... when I was 13 I read countless romance bad boy books. Let me tell you, he's never 'bad'. He's typically a man of a few words, always very clever, or at least, is talented in something, is also very fit, dislikes mainstream stuff, enjoys a bit of an adrenaline rush. Usually is a very distrusting person due to past trauma.
Sound like a bad person? I don't think so. I soon grew out of that trope when I started reading books like Emma.

A real life bad boy is that delinquent in the back of class who smokes too much, peaks too young and has never really caught my interest. So no I've never been attracted to a bad boy.
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- Twenty2
  +1 y
  What are you attracted to?
- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  If they actually are not bad people, why are they called bad boys and not something else? I think i have a different understanding of bad boys than you do. For me, a bad boy is someone who does bad things. The ideal type of a Bad boy in my opinion is Jeremy Meeks.
- sagevalentineee
  +1 y
  I didn't say bad boy's aren't bad. I said the romantiscised 'bad boy' for teenage girls books and movies isn't actually 'bad', but in real life... well bad means bad. So that idealised version 13-16 year old girls might think they like... but they really don't. Exactly Jeremy Meeks... I don't find him attractive, I wouldn't want to date him either.
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- Twenty2
  +1 y
  What do you find attractive?
- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  @sagevalentineee Thanks for your opinion!
- sagevalentineee
  +1 y
  @Twenty2 Since you've asked so many times now, the epitome of what I find attractive can be described in the character William Night. He makes my knees weak. He's a lawyer, he's a got a good career going, he's more conservative that liberal, a person with a lot of confidence, he's a pragmatist and goes for what he wants. He always has intelligent insights and is very good with people. Flaws can be that he can be arrogant and a bit overpowering on passive people.
- Twenty2
  +1 y
  Is it a book character?
- sagevalentineee
  +1 y
  @Twenty2 Yes, but don't worry it's not some teen girl romance stuff, it's a political novel, but I love the character, he's great
- Twenty2
  +1 y
  Tell me the book. I'll read it.
AlienParasite Yoda
+1 y
Something in the middle leaning closer to no?

I usually liked guys who had similar hobbies to me. It has always been hard to make friends with similar hobbies where I live, and so, finding a guy having a similar hobbies caused me attraction.

None of the guys I have liked were bad guys, or at least I don't think so.
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- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  @alienparasite Thanks for your opinion
CourtneyJane Xper 7
+1 y
My ex was pretty much a "bad boy". He was arrogant, he was an asshole, he had a lot of tattoos and he rode a motorcycle. I found him sexy and I enjoyed riding on the back of his Ducati just about every weekend, but his personality eventually began to vex me beyond belief, we started to butt heads constantly, so I left him for a male stripper friend of mine (that I once allowed him to have sex with).
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- Broken_doll
  +1 y
  Awesome! I fucking love you!
- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  "that I once allowed him to have sex with" I don't get it. Who had sex with who? What exactly made him an asshole? Can you give me an example?
- CourtneyJane
  +1 y
  A friend of mine that was involved in an MFM threesome with me and my ex, I let my ex have one-on-one sex with him later that night. I eventually plan on publishing a MyTake about my threesome experience and how it affected how I view my sexuality. My ex was already an arrogant person to begin with, I mistook his arrogance for confidence but I soon learned that being in a relationship with such a person would burn me. He viewed me as a trophy and he believed that he had a right to control my life. When I stopped working at the club and got a new job as a pharmacy tech, he got upset because my new job had long hours and he liked bragging to his friends and other men online that he bagged "The Hottest Stripper in Arizona". He eventually started belittling me constantly, telling me that I'm getting fat and I'm not as attractive as I use to be. But the real kicker was that when I was at work, he would cheat on me. That's when I took an ax to that relationship. In hindsight, I think allowing him to have one-on-one sex with our threesome "playmate", and for me to pleasure myself while watching them go at it, gave him the mental green light to cheat on me later on.
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- Broken_doll
  +1 y
  @courtneyjane lol sounds like my ex minus the cheating. I danced at Christy's
- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  @courtneyjane Is there nothing about bad behavior that seems somehow attractive (in a purely sexual way)?
Mystic_Nova Yoda
+1 y
Ehhhh. The men in my family is what you'd consider a "bad boy" they have tattoos,, ride motorcycles, will fuck you up if provoked, butbtheybare the nicest people. The do charities, will always lend a hand and are great guys, they just dont take shit from anyone.

So, I like good guys, with spice. Which are good men, in the typical sense, but they are confident enough to be themselves and will punch you if you fuck with them or their loved ones.
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- Daniela1982
  +1 y
  So in other words, they are nice to you. Not so much with other people.
- Mystic_Nova
  +1 y
  No, they just dont take anyone's crap. Like I said they do things for people, charities, etc.
- Daniela1982
  +1 y
  So do the Hells Angels.
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- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  @mystic_nova “The men in my family is what you'd consider a "bad boy"” That depends on why they feel provoked. The rest seems to indicate that they are good people
Hannah_le Yoda
+1 y
No I’m attracted to good guys cuz = long serious relationship. I’ve been in one for 4 years and it’s good so.
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- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  Thanks for your opinion 🙂
bigmisssunshine Explorer
+1 y
I rarely feel sexual attraction in general, so for me it hasn’t happened.
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- angeliquedevereux2
  +1 y
  If you don't mind stating, are you asexual?
- bigmisssunshine
  +1 y
  Demisexual, which is one of the types of asexuality, so yes.
- angeliquedevereux2
  +1 y
  Ah okay, happy pride month then :)
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- bigmisssunshine
  +1 y
  Thank you 😊
- Alex_988_2
  +1 y
  whats demisexual hon?
- bigmisssunshine
  +1 y
  @alex_988_2 Demisexuality means you can only feel sexual attraction if you truly know and connect with a person. But it’s very rare to happen. I’ve only experienced sexual attraction once in my entire life. That’s why it’s a type of asexuality.
- Alex_988_2
  +1 y
  i think that is closely related to being a sapiosexual and that maybe you're
- bigmisssunshine
  +1 y
  No I’m not a sapiosexual
estoydorado1 Editor
+1 y
Nah, I'm averse to things that hurt me. I grew up around enough bad men to know its a waste of time and energy. Kindness keeps me feeling safe enough to be my kindest self. I like guys that I can be at peace with.
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- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  @estoydorado1 Has it always been like that, or did you used to be into bad boys in the past? and if so, at what age did you lose interest in them?
- estoydorado1
  +1 y
  According to my dad, I've been calling them out on the nonsense since I could string sentences together. In my eyes, to be a bad guy, you have to be either stupid or absolutely savage/ reckless. Both have always made me want to get the hell out of dodge.
xxochloxxo Xper 6
+1 y
In all honesty every single boy I’ve dated is a bad boy. Every single one. I always make the mistake of choosing the bad boy over the good guy which I sill can’t figure out why I do that. Not that I wanna change the bad boy, I mean i used to fantasise about being the one to be able to change them but I realised that’s rare lol. I just go for the difficult things and the chase and it actually prevents me from settling down since I’m always in that phase.
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- youknowbetter
  +1 y
  You realize this is a lose lose lose all the way around. You reward bad boys for their bad behavior. They continue to treat people like shit because they get sexually rewarded for doing so. You continue to create your own problems. Problems that are completely unnecessary but the drama was worth it right? Last but not least the good guys out there get punished and shunned for doing the right thing. This depresses and angers them. They are sure as not happy to just “be your friend”. They want love, intimacy and sex just as much as the bad boy does. Some of them turn into assholes themselves because that is only way they can get what they really want. This all comes down to self control. Is that adrenaline rush you get from an asshole really outweigh or the harm and heartbreak you will get down the road? Do your emotions really justify all the backward, self destructive and asinine dating decisions women make? I guess it does. But at the end of the day YOU choose to date these types.
- xxochloxxo
  +1 y
  @youknowbetter yes that’s very true you are right. I know it’s causing me problems so I’m trying to get out of this phase still. It’s not good that I chose those because it does cause drama in the long run
- youknowbetter
  +1 y
  Just ask yourself if the adrenaline high of self destruction is worth it.
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- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  Bro I see it the same way you do. But I say there's no point in telling a woman not to pick the bad boy. People don't make partner choices based on rational thought, they make them based on feelings.
- youknowbetter
  +1 y
  I know I know. Attraction isn’t a choice. Just feels good to ventilate. If women didn’t have this disgusting mental quirk we would all live in a much better world.
- youknowbetter
  +1 y
  This one is a very deep sore spot for me. Something has given me feelings of absolute rage over the years. But I’ve improved and learned to draw the line over the years. About two months ago I called out a woman over some disrespectful friend zone bs she did to me a while ago. Grown ass woman too. Year older than men. Felt good to call out her crap and I’ve cut her off. She’s in a isolated environment right now so that will give her some time to think about her bs.
- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  "If women didn't have this disgusting mental quirk we would all live in a much better world" As sad as it sounds: I believe there used to be an evolutionary advantage for women to mate with such men. Women are attracted to such men for a reason. "This one is a very deep sore spot for me Something has given me feelings of absolute rage over the years.“ I can feel you. "About two months ago I called out a woman over some disrespectful friend zone bs she did to me a while ago." You can't blame the woman for seeing you as a friend. The woman doesn't do that on purpose. Forget that woman. Tell the next woman from the beginning that you're interested in a relationship, not a friendship.
- youknowbetter
  +1 y
  No I was actually more than friends with this woman at one point. Long story. I’m not angry about her not being interested in more. That’s her choice. It was HOW she did it. As for the whole evolutionary argument. I used to accept that. But when thinking about it harder it actually no makes no sense. Could a woman in prehistoric times count on a so called “alpha” male to say with her and protect her? What’s to stop him for leaving out out of boredom and let her fend for herself? What’s to stop him from beating her just because he feels like it? This comes more down to self esteem and self hatred for women who like “bad boys”’. It gives some sort of twisted Adrenaline rush
- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  "Could a woman in prehistoric times count on a so called "alpha" male to say with her and protect her? What's to stop him for leaving out of boredom and let her fend for her? What's to stop him from beating her just because he feels like it?" No, she couldn't. That's why most women don't want to marry a bad boy (at least not a violent one) but just find this kick charming, as you say. There's a theory called the Ovulatory Shift Hypothesis. Simply put, it says that women's mate choice preferences change during the cycle. On the fertile days, women are attracted to men who have a higher testosterone level. The high testosterone level indicates a good immune system and therefore good genes. However, the testosterone level correlates with promiscuity and propensity to violence. The behaviour of bad boys often shows superiority and indicates good genes. This is why the woman wants to get pregnant by this type of man because she wants to have the good genes for her children. However, he is not suitable as a long-term partner, as already mentioned. As a long-term partner she would rather have a man who is friendly and loving towards her and who shows that he is a good "provider and protector". Many women also have this fantasy of turning a bad boy (someone who shows that he has good genes through his socially negative but superior behaviour) into a good guy (someone who shows that he is well suited to raise the offspring through his caring and loving nature), because then they would have both. Someone with good genes who is also willing to stay with her.
Wemix Yoda
+1 y
I believe so but there are different definitions of what a bad guy is like
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- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  What is a bad guy to your definition?
- Wemix
  +1 y
  There's really not one specific definition. It could just be a mysterious loner with tattoos and piercings just like it could be a drug addict, drug dealer, guy who gets into a lot of fights for no valid reasons, playboy who breaks a new heart every week, etc... A toxic guy basically.
- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  But why does the drug addict appear attractive? And why does the guy who’s gets into a lot of fights for no valid reasons appears attractive? Is it, because it shows physical superiority?
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- Wemix
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  They only appear attractive if they're already physically sexy, then the bad side we don't really understand adds a mysterious vibe that draws you in. Otherwise you know that a drug addict just looks sick and not attractive at all.
- Tonytoutouni123
  +1 y
  @wemix Thanks for your opinion. Appreciate your honesty!
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