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Why do you think the acceptance of LGBTQ+ community is going down?

i personally had no issues with people with nonbinary and alternative sexualities. i always had a "live and let live" mentality. though i've been noticing that i'm getting more negative about them, the more they force my to be exposed to their shit that i don't care about. cause they won't stop being in my face, preaching to the choir about how i must accept them... like fuck you. i must accept nobody. i can have my own opinion, whether you like that or not... acceptance isn't obligatory. you can't be entiteled for that. and i would have given my acceptance to you, but now that you're commanding me to, i feel different about accepting you.

but that's just my personal individual explanation for why this might be. what do you think?
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  • Because it is being stuffed down our throats and we are being forced to accept it.
    If anyone (ANYONE) pushes back we are vilified as misogynistic transphobes. We are threatened with losing our jobs and standing in the community.

    I once told a mtf trans woman that I wasn't attracted to her. She said I was discriminating against trans people.

    So it is my fault if I don't want to have sex with someone who has a penis?

    I disagree with the assertion that I need to define someone based on who they have sex with, what body parts they have, or how they identify themselves. None of those are my business so don't force them on me.

    • i agree with you. if you see a tree, you call it a tree. then someone comes and says "i feel like that's a flower so you have to call it a flower now". that's not how this works at all. about this ftm person: he was a toxic piece of shit. it's just like when someone gets all butthurt and angry if you reject them. nobody is entiteled to you dating/liking them. and since nobody is entiteled to that or in other words has no right to be dated by you in the first place, calling it "discimination" is nonsensical.

    • Technically it was a she/xi/whatever...

    • no, technically "he" was a "man" pretending to be a woman. i don't buy into this nomenclature of bullshit. there's 2 genders. there's rare birth deformities, where it's unclear which gender they are and sometimes they technically can be both or neither. but being both genders or neither gender doesn't create a new one.

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  • Whoa!! Please step back away from the soapbox. These people have been discriminated against, attacked, even murdered for their sexual choices. I don't necessarily agree with all their methods but they're certainly justified in being more vocal. It make no difference to me who they love. I just go about my business. The populist movement in the world is very anti gay and they are reacting to that.

    • so what? should we not want that their acceptence is going up then? it's concerning that it goes down... that's why i'm asking.

    • They are going down because the populists in our various countries are narrow minded and anti gay. In fact, they oppose anyone who doesn't look and sound and act like them. Their byword is intolerance.

    • i would say the populists are actually not "anti" gay. they fight for the acceptance of lgbt people. but i think the way they often do is very toxic and that's why people drop their acceptance for them. so they hurt their own cause.

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  • I personally don’t see where it’s going down, I just see more people being vocal about being against anyone who doesn’t identify as straight or go out of their way to say them they’re mentally ill/going to hell/other idiotic things.

    • 36% of young people said they were uncomfortable learning a family member was LGBTQ, compared with 29% in 2017 34% were uncomfortable learning their doctor was LGBTQ vs. 27% in the previous year 39% were uncomfortable learning their child had a school lesson on LGBTQ history vs. 30% in 2017. representative quantitative social surveys see that going down.

    • There’s also a lack of representation for LBGT+ for it to be seen as more normal. Plus you have other factors such as some religions finding it against teachings and such, plus those who already having a negative view most likely teaching such hate to their children. They probably help contribute to those numbers.

    • i think it's the opposite. i think it has "too much" representation. people were more accepting of it in times when lgbtq+ wasn't all up in their faces 24/7. also i absolutely disagree with "accepting something as normal", that is absolutely not normal. i don't think someone who's lgbtq+ is "bad". but certainly not normal.

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  • What makes you think acceptance of the LGBTQ community is going down?

    • representative social surveys that are conducted every year.

    • in other words it's not "me thinking that", it's a statistical fact.

    • I've never seen any surveys indicating that. Do you have a link?

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  • I think no one will ever be okay with being lied to about their romantic partner being born with a penis, and that has created a bit of a divide among the LGBTQ advocates.

    • i'm not sure if that's the thing most lgbtq people do to make them less "liked" xD

    • No one asks about it out loud because they want to convince people of the answer before asking the question. But I suspect interrupting any heated argument by stating the question directly "is it okay to lie to a romantic partner about being born with a penis?" and not letting the subject change will cool things down instantly, or at least put everyone on the attack back on their heels - because it's hard to ever claim that it's ever okay to lie. Plus it's a bit classist, as the only people who could even afford to tell such a lie convincingly would have to be able drop several hundred thousand on surgery to become their vision of a perfect woman or whatever.

    • again i don't see it so much of a thing that people lie about "having a dick". that doesn't happen in my experience. people wanna be called weird genders. i don't experience them lying about their genitalia a lot.

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  • Less accepted i dunno.. Harder to swallow, i would say yes. It has to do at least for me with the there are 468546849841368464 genders people, and the ones that want to add a P to the LGBT (P for MAP's or PedoSexuals.. Fucking gross).. And pride parades where there is rampant nudity and sex acts during the parades in front of children.. Or turning 8 year old little boys into drag queens. And finally the Ultra left parts of it trying to gender swap and sexualize beloved characters from literature, games and movies. Make your own shit stop trying to take away from something that already exists.. Bat woman is a good example of this. It flopped spectacularly because people dont what that kind of shit shoved down their throats.. Same with the all female Ghost Busters.

    i was fine with it when it was live and let live on both sides, but now they are doing things which i cannot stand..

    • the less accepted is a fact. it's the result of ongoing representative, quantitative social survey. i'm completely with you about the explanation that you gave. i do think that is the reason.

  • When they stayed behind closed doors and weren't all over my TV I had hardly antything to say about them. Since they want to push their BS on everyone else though I speak out against them.

  • Lol you are such a dumbass. It is going up. Just this month, two gay black men won their primary race and the Supreme Court ruled that you can't fire someone based on their sexual orientation and sexual identify

    • One of them beat a super anti gay candidate by almost 16 percentage points

    • first of all, starting your statement by "you're a dumbass" isn't intelligent at all. not saying you're dumb. just saying that this is terribly ineficient communication, where you insult the other and then the other gets all salty and isn't gonna want to discuss with you or consider your thoughts. so if you're not a troll that tries to offend me to make me angry, which isn't working at all, it is in your best interest to stop that.

      so the social acceptance is going down, as found in a study by the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation: www.glaad.org/.../...ating%20Acceptance%202019.pdf

      they proof that with quantitative survey methods. that's how you determine if acceptance is going down. a law made by the supreme court is not a representation of peoples opinions.

      i don't know what "two gay black men won their primary race" even means and what that has to do with this topic.

    • The supreme court is mostly full of conservatives. Plus the approval rate for the same sex marriages is at the all time highest in the United States. You are only pushing an agenda to spread your backwards religious views

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  • Probably cause it is too forced and thrown into your face.

    • yup. i agree.

  • can't say have no idea

  • I think it has little to do with the lifestyle of the LGBTQ community and more about how they are actively forcing their lifestyle on others. The movement has gone from wanting others to accept their lifestyle to demanding others embrace their lifestyle.

    • yup. that's pretty much what i described with a lot more words :D like you can't "demand" acceptance. and if you demand it, people will scoff at you, like they scoff at a child throwing a temper tantrum. that's not how you convey your identity and your wishes.

  • because of violence against them, from people who can't tolerate them

    • they're entiteled to way more than tolerance these days xD

    • entitled to what?

  • Because more people are realizing this is a government effort to segregate the population

    • to me it looks more like a bunch of confused people doing things in hopes to improve stuff but actually making it worse.

  • More people are realizing that procreative potential is spiritually powerful and refusing to reach out to that community. They may feel they are are evil community who wants demanding approval of them. If you accept it, you approve of it and people are tried of that avenue.

    • well if anything of what you said there i can agree that this community is somewhat evil. at least in the media.

  • You say live and let live but then you proceed to aggressively rant and rave about how you don't like them 'forcing you' and 'commanding you' to accept them, 'preaching' etc etc. Imagine it the other way around. Everyone is constantly subjected to movies, TV, stories about straight couples, straight sex, straight lives much much much more than lgbt lives. So why aren't you ranting and raving about that? You are basically intolerant because they are different from you. Interesting that you've decided that you are the 'correct' way to live. Nobody is forcing you to do anything! Name one thing that those gays have made you do that is really causing you great offence and harm?

    • Lots of people in life are not 'normal' - so what? What about straight couples who can't have children - that's not normal - are you going to rant and rave about how wrong they are and that they should be hidden from view.

  • If anything, it would seem like, in this up-side-down morally bankrupt world, that "acceptance" would be going up. But what might be happening is, people who are already against it are becoming MORE ANGRILY against it.

    • ... or... maybe people are sensing the closeness of the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ, and are wanting to make sure that they are on God's GOOD side. Either way, I PRAY that this "acceptance" IS going down.

  • For the time being BLM has stole the show from LGBTQ+ and even from the "Me Too's" . When ever this plays out if it ever does, then the LGBTQ+ can try to take center stage again. The competician of the special groups.

    • so you think it's "lack of exposure" that makes people less accepting? i think it's the opposite.

    • Yes I understand what you mean now. I agree with all the "over exposure" that this BLM - Africanization of our culture has gotten people are only turning against it. When you jamm an agenda down someone's throat they only hate it. Hatred and polization is only getting way worst. This started out as a protest against the police and now it has become a tear down and a destruction of our civilization.

    • i think BLM is just a bunch of bullshit. just like feminists claims that women ar suppressed or "white male privilege" claims: there's a lots of toxic nonsense going around in society and i think that's not really conductive at all to the of the probably even noble causes they have.

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