Ladies do you agree with this woman?

First:
It makes life extremly difficult for a good guy like me if you don't answer well considered or not 100% honestly. It is not at all reprehensible to be attracted to criminal thugs, because you have no influence on that! There is no morally right or wrong with sexual preferences!

I swear to god, I‘ll definitely never become a bad boy! But i really want to know what gets women sexually most aroused. I know that a confident, successful, assertive, manly good guy is very attractive. I am only interested in finding out wheather a confident, successful, assertive manly bad boy is even more attractive.
If that is the case, i will fake the bad boy image. I know that many women think it won‘t work, but in a club, it‘s enough to look like a bad boy, because the woman can‘t figure out your character anyway. It‘s just a matter of giving the woman the impression that you are a bad boy.

So i had this conversation on GaG with a woman.
I shortened it a lot to focus on the essentials. You can read the whole conversation under my question: “Does every woman feel sexually attracted to bad boys at least in one phase of her life?“
If you disagree with this woman, please don‘t talk bad about her! I am glad that she told me her honest opinion.

her:
tbh every guy i‘ve ever been attracted to was a bad guy. They have all had the worst personalities. My first crush was involved in a gang. Some were not that bad but still rude.

me:
Do I understand you correctly that these guys would have seemed less attractive to you if they looked the same and were just as brave, manly or whatever, but had a good character?

her:
Yes they would have seemed less attractive

me:
1. Is it attractive if he starts brawls that aren‘t necessary?
2. would you consider yourself an exception, or do you believe there are quite a lot women that are attracted to the same or a similiar type of guy altough some of them do not admit it?

her:
1. Yes.. def.
2. I think there are many more
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  • To an extent, yes. On some parts, no. I'm with her on #2, but on #1, no I don't want a guy who starts fights all the time, and I think I'll get a lot of support on that one.

    The bad news for you is...
    "If that is the case, i will fake the bad boy image. I know that many women think it won‘t work, but in a club, it‘s enough to look like a bad boy, because the woman can‘t figure out your character anyway. It‘s just a matter of giving the woman the impression that you are a bad boy."
    NO, lol no no no. And I don't mean that in a rude way. (I bet you every dime in my bank account that if you tell that same girl you are gonna fake the image that she would laugh at you.)
    Being a "bad boy" is not what you look like. It's not something you just "pull off." If faking it gets you more pu**y in a club, that means you totally sucked to begin with. So good luck getting what a real bad boy would get because you won't come close. And actually - I tell you this for your own benefit - if you try to "pull it off" and you get worried the first time you even think you might get in trouble, you WILL be laughed at, and good luck from that point forward.

    Check out my myTake on this if you want to: What Women REALLY Look For/How Both Genders Lack Maturity/Why Bad Boys Are AMAZING

    The main link for The Science of Attraction: https://www.elitedaily.com/women/science-attraction-bad-boys-still-kryptonite-women/990212

    Overview of my take on it, in case you don't want to read it: It's a matter of testosterone levels in a bad boy and who he is. You can pretend like an actor in a movie all you want, but with that you'll never get the pussy a bad boy will get. Just a woman being honest here.

    • Also consider that we go by EMOTION, not so much logic like you men do, so in case you don't bother to read the take, as it says, your logic is once again flawed.

    • @yads_is_back „no I don't want a guy who starts fights all the time, and I think I'll get a lot of support on that one.“ I know a lot of women say that, but honestly, it doesn't make sense to me. Beating someone else to a pulp definitely shows physical superiority over that person. So a woman should find that attractive because it shows that the man could protect her. "NO, lol no no no. And I don't mean that in a rude way. I bet you every dime in my bank account that if you tell that same girl you are gonna fake the image that she would laugh at you. Being a "bad boy" is not what you look like. It's not something you just "pull off." But I won’t tell her! I think you totally misunderstood me. I know that a nice guy loser can never fake the bad boy image. Women will know he's not a bad boy and they'll laugh at him. But imagine a man who is very manly, confident, assertive, physically superior to other men, fearless, risk-taking, dominant, but who is a good guy and has a good character. He never starts fights without a reason, he is humorous and has a lot of joy in his life and therefore laughs a lot, he is often in a good mood, friendly to all people he meets as long as they deserve his kindness. He does voluntary social work on Saturdays. He is 30 years old and already retired because he was Germany's most successful investment fund manager. He is a $ billionaire and lives an exciting, adventurous life. He travels the world and enjoys his life. He is tanned and as a result of his well-trained body and the rather low percentage of body fat, he has a very high testosterone level, which can be seen among other things in his strong beard growth and his angular face. As he has the whole day at his disposal, he does 2 hours of martial arts training every day with the best trainers of UFC fighters and therefore has a black eye all the time.

    • @yads_is_back This man knows that most women suffer from what he calls "Bad Boy Syndrome". This man is highly qualified to play the bad boy image to women who don't know him and therefore don't know his true character. When he goes to a club, he will do his best to appear as evil as possible. He will dress like a bad boy (e. g. with a leather jacket) and will have a sinister expression on his face. His black eye from martial arts training and his tattoos make him look even more like a bad boy. This man is the 30 year old version of a guy who calls himself Tonytoutouni123. Trust me honey, it'll be a breeze for me to get tons of women in bed when i fake the bad boy image. “If faking it gets you more pu**y in a club, that means you totally sucked to begin with.“ Unfortunately I do not understand this because my English is not so good. „So good luck getting what a real bad boy would get because you won't come close. And actually - I tell you this for your own benefit - if you try to "pull it off" and you get worried the first time you even think you might get in trouble, you WILL be laughed at, and good luck from that point forward.“ But I won't think that I get into trouble! I'll buy an apartment near the club. I make out with the girl at the club, take her to my place, bang the chick, and she leaves. „It's a matter of testosterone levels in a bad boy and who he is. You can pretend like an actor in a movie all you want, but with that you'll never get the pussy a bad boy will get. Just a woman being honest here.“ But having a high testosterone level does not make a man a bad boy. A man can also have a high testosterone level and still be a good guy.

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  • I'm not. I want real people with courage in my life. Not primitive monkeys who can't fend for themselves by themselves with their bare hands and travel in groups. If you have to travel with weapons and you're in groups, like gang chimpanzees happen to be, then you obviously can't fend for yourself by yourself. Because you need that reinforcement from your your kind so that when you get your ass beat, they can step in.

    Bad boys are not the type of people I feel safe with because their kind can't fight one on one, therefore let's say I'm dating one of them and we're walking down the street and somebody comes to rob us with a gun, I can't be 100% confident that they're capable of defending me. I could defend them, and I have before, but if they can't defend me, and they need the reinforcement of their kind, then what makes me think they can protect our child should we have one? They can't. I look for a potential parent of my child. Just because I can't get pregnant, doesn't mean any child we adopt doesn't deserve two parents who are perfectly capable of protecting them.

    So no, I do not agree with her. I'm not attracted to these street chimpanzees, and I will never be their friends.

    I'm only friends with one person who grew up on the streets, but he's the exception because he doesn't start shit, he doesn't travel with a group, and he uses his bare fists to defend himself in a fight. Yes, he did lose some of the fights due to never using weapons, but he is mentally strong enough to face groups of tall people alone without being intimidated. Ergo he is not like the others. You didn't do anything against him, i. e steel from him, or hurt his family and friends, he won't bother you. He has what I call integrity, which is something most people born to street life seem to lack. He is more attractive to me than their kind will ever be, and yet I have no interest in persuing a relationship with him.

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  • Bad boys never had any form of attraction on me. But there are females who are attracted to them. She is not an exception.

    Attraction differs from person to person.

    I, for one, would find it highly annoying and irresponsible to start a brawl for no good reason. I don't even condone fighting if it's for a so called "good" reason.

    Also, what do you intend to do with all this information? Are you going to pretend to get some? Are you trying to re-invent yourself? Or do you just want to prove something?

    • @littleturtleduck Thanks for your opinion! I will definitely never become a bad boy! But if I find out that almost all women deep down prefer bad boys on a sexual level, I will fake the bad boy image for one night stands. I claim that it is easy to maintain the bad boy image for a short period of time.

  • No, I don't, personally. I've never been attracted to criminal activity or asshole behavior, and in fact lost a friendship with a girl who insisted on involving me with her dangerous criminal boyfriends (you know how you get that horrible pit in your stomach that tells you to get away from someone as soon as possible? That's what I felt around her boyfriends; one was a registered sex offender and known pedophile and the other was a very mentally ill control freak who was always in trouble with the law and gave me the strongest "GET AWAY FROM HIM NOW!!!" feelings I've ever felt in my life. Another mutual friend tried to tell her that the last guy made her feel uncomfortable, then he stalked her for like a week. I would honestly think someone would have to be out of their mind to find any of this behavior from these guys attractive, lol.

    I also think there's a huge difference between confidence and acting like an arrogant, narcissistic asshole (which, by the way, is usually actually overcompensation for insecurity and a lack of confidence). For some reason, a lot of people have trouble telling the difference.

    • @awes0meness Registered sex offender and pedophilic 🤭 I would not have thought that there are women who even like bad boys like that. Crazy. Thanks for your opinion!

    • I wouldn't either, it baffles me! No problem!

  • I think many women are attracted to the "bad boy" type but the specifics of that type differs slightly from girl to girl. They're all under the umbrella term of bad boy, but each type of bad boy women are attracted to is different. For me, I've always liked the bad boys, they're who I usually fall for (nothing against dating good guys tho). But my type is different from hers, I don't want someone who's affiliated with crime. I just want a tough, confident, bold, and sometimes arrogant/ rude guy (ofc to others, he's nicer to me. Like he's warm on the inside). They wouldn't have any hesitation beating up another person but won't purposely start shit or commit crimes.

    The "bad boy" is just an umbrella term for a lot of guys. Also while there are many girls who like bad guys, there are definitely some who prefer good guys and I think most girls wouldn't mind dating good guys either (cause like again, I've dated a good guy too)

    • @nxtawm Thanks for your opinion. "and sometimes arrogant / rude guy (ofc to others" Does a man look less attractive to you if he is friendly to a waiter or cashier instead of rude? Please stay honest.

    • Nope not at all! While I like bad boys, it's rlly the vibe they give off, I don't actually like people who start shit with random strangers. If a man is friendly to a waiter or cashier, it won't make him less attractive to me.

    • @nxtawm I believe you, but I honestly don't understand it. "While I like bad boys, I don't actually like people who start shit with random strangers." Isn't that a contradiction? A bad guy behaves morally wrong towards strangers whenever it gives him an advantage. That's why they call him bad. Or do you just find it sexually arousing if he behaves morally wrong toward people he's no stranger to? Honest answer please: does it arouse you sexually if the bad boy beats up a random, strange man out of sheer lust / aggressiveness? As I said, it wouldn't be reprehensible at all, because neither a man nor a woman can consciously control his/her sexual preferences.

  • I do not agree with this woman. Yes there are some girls who are into this, but the majority of them aren't. So if your main focus is to find the most effective way to attract a girl, being a bad boy or pretending to be one ain't it.

  • As I see it, your version is what most would find more attractive. a lot of people dont find the impulsive assholes attractive, and the girl you were talking to seems to have couple screws lose I'd she thinks a guy who starts fights for mo reason is attractive.

    I see it like this, girls like good men, with spice. Which is what you described. The good man who does right, is polite and stuff, howeve eff, he is confident, assertive, will punch a dude if he gets fucked with and stands up for himself and those around him. Maybe he has a hobby if motorcycles or even a couple tattoos, nothing bad, just edgy.

    • @mystic_nova Thanks for your opinion! 🙂

  • Lol I hate bad boys. Never been attracted to them. So I disagree

    • @bigmisssunshine Do you also disagree on a purely sexual level? Are you not attracted to bad boys in movies either?

    • I’m not attracted to anyone sexually. Asexual lol No I don’t like them in movies either

    • @bigmisssunshine Thanks for your opinion! Do you mind if I ask you something about being asexual?

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  • No, I absolutely disagree. I think that many people who want to date/date with a bad guy has personal issues and unconsciously wants a toxic relationship.

  • I disagree. I am a woman who has fallen for guys who are intelligent rather than bad or good guys that is, i may be considered a sapiophile. I can see the appeal as to why "bad boys" get more attention as the scene they usually make with their immature and "manly" acts rather than those good guys who do their deeds in secret and usually away from the public eye are those that woman usually fall for.
    If that woman considered most women to fall for such people she probably meant those that catch the eye. They have caught my attention in my life, but not enough to make me fall for them.

  • I've never been attracted to bad boys and I have no desire of being in a relationship with one. Like I've said, I already have too many problems, don't need another one.
    But I think she has a point when she says that there more women attracted to this kind of guy but don't want to admit it. I guess some women are afraid of being judged because of their preferences.
    And once she's attracted to them, it makes sense to think that she wouldn't be attracted to them if they had a different personality.

    • "... it makes sense to think that she wouldn't be attracted to them if they had a different personality." BINGO. Hence why it's not an image he can pull off out of nowhere because if that was the case every guy would do it. Great point

    • @Yads_Is_Back "BINGO. Hence why it's not an image he can pull off out of nowhere because if that was the case every guy would do it. Great point" - Exactly! I absolutely agree with you.

    • @menina @yads_is_back "BINGO. Hence why it's not an image he can pull off out of nowhere because if that was the case every guy would do it. Great point" - Exactly! I absolutely agree with you.“ I'm sorry, ladies, but you're completely wrong. I know that unfortunately many women think that way, but there are also extremely manly men who don't beat others up for no reason and who don't want to be seen as bad boys. It would be easy for them to be bad, but they consciously decide against it because they have honour and pride. No matter how many pussies they lose by that decision. A manly, dominant, confident, assertive etc. good guy also looks very attractive to many women. He would look even more attractive to women if he were a bad boy, but he doesn't care because he gets either way many women into bed. Maybe he is also more the type who wants a long-term relationship instead of one night stands. In this case it even makes sense not to be a bad boy, because most women prefer a good guy for marriage.

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  • Depends what you define as a bad boy.

    I’m put off by anyone that is a criminal or involved in crime - so gangs, drugs etc is a no-no.

    But I like a bad boy that more so doesn’t care (or shows that he doesn’t) like in the books 😂 the guy that won’t commit or show emotion but refuses to leave you alone.
    ... So maybe I’m not into bad guys at all but instead characters in a book.

    Probably the only “bad boy” I would be attracted to is someone like Massimo from 365 days... but he’d have to be attractive too 🤦🏻‍♀️😂

    • @Katerina_Belle Haha ok thanks for your opinion 😄

  • I really dislike bad boy no matter how strong or successful he is. That's the reason I never approached my crush. I fell for him because at first impression he was shy, quiet and looked like a gentleman. He was so handsome. But he was a bad boy so I never looked back.

    • @elsa143 „I fell for him because at first impression he was shy, quiet and looked like a gentleman.“ So you are telling me, that him being shy and quite made him appear attractive? I have never heard that a woman is attracted to shy guys. Do more outgoing guys appear less attractive to you than shy guys, assuming they both aren’t Bad Boys?

    • Women are indeed attracted to shy guys if the shy guy is like physically cute and has a quiet confidence and mystery about him :p

  • I don't personally agree with her, but I know a good number of women who would.

    I go for people that I want to actually be with for a long time, with the end result hopefully being marriage somewhere down the line. That idea doesn't include bad boys who are gonna eventually get themselves arrested or killed, because like I said, I want them around for a long time. I may think they're intriguing from afar, but as soon as I spend some time around them I usually quickly realize that they aren't someone I want to spend time with and back off.

    I do want a confident, manly, strong man. I've never really needed a man to stand up for me or protect me, but knowing that he could/would defend me makes me feel very safe, and women love guys they feel safe around. So like, don't be a total momma's boy, but if you end up looking like an asshole in your attempt to be a bad boy, you aren't gonna get many girls (the ones you do get are likely the ones with daddy issues or a history of unfortunate relationships).

    • @kezil Thanks for your opinion!

  • Not to me. What I find most attractive in a man:
    1. Modest
    2. Stands up for what is right/what he believes in.
    3. Funny
    4. Smart
    5. Family man
    6. Good with his hands
    7. Dominant but not in an annoyingly cocky way.

    These are the things that would make me find amy man nearly irresistible, regardless of looks. I can't stand bad boys...

    • I do feel the same

    • @kimdracula9 @plumrose18 Thanks for your opinion

  • We all have our own preferences. As for me, it's not about being "bad" but I'm rather attracted to "mysterious" guys especially those who seem like geniuses.

    • Thanks for your opinion!

  • Uhmm I'm only attracted to my boyfriend but thanks 4 the invite. He has a good decent job and a nice house and two nice cars one 4 him one 4 me and he's a nice person who doesn't go to jail etc

  • Oh well nah. If I found out he was involved in something sus/ was rude to me, I would dump him in a heartbeat.

  • I personally have never understood women who are attracted to bad boys. It doesn’t make sense to me why anyone would want to be with someone that treats them badly. I think being a bad boy is the most unattractive thing. Good guys are way more attractive. Actually, no, there’s one thing less attractive than a bad guy, and that’s bad guys who actually think that they’re good guys and then complain like “why don’t girls like me? I’m such a good guy” when they’re really assholes.
    But yeah, for me, I find good guys attractive and bad guys awful.

    • @sophie_2301 Yes, I can completely understand that. The so-called "nice guys", who are basically just losers, are of course extremely unattractive. Do you also find bad boys unattractive on a purely sexual level? Are you not attracted to bad boys in movies either?

    • I’ve never really been interested in casual sex stuff in general. I feel like I need an emotional connection with someone to be sexually attracted to them, so no I don’t find bad boys attractive in any way shape or form.

    • @sophie_2301 Ok thanks for your opinion 🙂

  • Although I am ace I can say that the reason most girls like bad boys is because bad boys are confident and have a sense of adventure

  • Yes and no. I dont agree with the fact that a "bad boy" with good character wouldn't be just as attractive as a "bad boy" with not so great character. I do agree that there are probably lots of women out there that find "bad boys" attractive.
    My personal attraction to then comes from mostly their demeanor. Most bad boys tend to be rude, bold, and territorial. I like a man that doesn't have an issue being rude to deserving people but nice to me. Same as territorial, it's nice knowing that your man has no problem fighting someone on your behalf 🤷‍♀️.

    • @minnie97 Thanks for your opinion!

  • I've never found bad boys attractive. I think the real reason is that i think they will treat me like trash

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