Ladies, I am very confused. Can you explain the following to me?

I suppose that most of you are getting tired of my "Bad Boy" questions by now, but I simply don't understand the following at all and would therefore be happy to hear your opinions again.

As always, I beg you to either answer 100% honestly, or if you can't or don't want to, then please don't answer at all! Everything else confuses me and makes it unnecessarily hard for me.

Based on my previous questions about the "bad boy phenomenon" I have found out that most women consider bad boys to appear very attractive, at least in a purely sexual perspective.
However, in my poll: "Which one of these two men appears more attractive to you as a one-night stand / fuckboy?"

1. "Bad Boy" Jeremy Meeks or
2. "Surfer Boy" Jay Alvarez

Jay Alvarez is clearly in the lead.
(see: Which one of these two men appears more attractive to you as a one-night stand / fuckboy? ↗

In my opinion, he does not look like a bad boy at all, but rather boyish/cute.

So I have the following questions for you:
1. Do you think Jay Alvarez looks more boyish/cute or more like a bad boy, or neither?
2. do you find boyish looking men even more attractive than bad boys?
3. would you consider Jay Alvarez to be even more attractive if you found out that he is a bad boy in real life although he doesn’t look like one?
4. do you have any other explanation why Jeremy Meeks did so much worse in my poll than Jay Alvarez, even though so many women claim that Jeremy Meeks is extremely attractive?

I don't care at all what the result of my questions will be, I just want to know the truth!
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  • Well... for one, I think that Jay Alvarez looks fits the boyish/cute aspect more.. I can't speak for the rest, but I don't really think that surfers are really deemed as bad boys in the first place lol. To be honest with you, the entire bad boy/cute boy stigma really doesn't hold a place in my preferences as the way someone looks or the "category" that society puts them in doesn't sway how I feel about them. With that said, I cannot say which I think is more attractive because I genuinely like all types of guys. But for the sake of your question... I would say neither. I mean... really... I would have to say that I am more attracted to the businessman or professor type, who has their shit together and handles it with maturity😊 I think the answer for 4 would be that even though some women like the 'bad boy' type, I don't think that a full on criminal record or criminal at all fits that stigma, as there are probably limits to it. 'Bad boy' is really an act in my opinion... like they play the role but would never really have the courage to commit a major crime or place full-on harm to someone without reason. I don't really get the whole concept but I think that could be a majority of why more people chose Jay instead of Jeremy.

    • @majesty101 Thanks for your opinion

  • You seem obsessed by this "bad boy" thing 😂
    Just relax and be yourself, I'm sure women will like you anyways. :)

    Now to answer your question:

    1. He looks more boyish/cute
    2. Yes I do
    3. No, I wouldn't because I don't like "bad boys"
    4. Maybe most women on GAG don't find Jeremy Meeks attractive. I don't and he has too many tattoos. Don't like that either.

    • @menina Thanks for answering all 4 questions! „Just relax and be yourself, I'm sure women will like you anyways.“ Thanks 🙂 but that's not the point for me. All I care about is which of the two types of men is more attractive. Even if I were the most attractive man on planet earth the idea that a clone of mine who is exactly the same as me, with the only difference that he is an asshole, and only because of that, is even more attractive to women, would not let me fall asleep at night. I would rather be the most unattractive man for women in the world if I knew that my Bad Boy clone would be just as unattractive or even less attractive That’s why I am going to fake this hole Bad Boy image.

    • You're welcome :) No problem. :) Well I still think you should be yourself. You know I don't like this "bad boy" thing. Anyways, it's your life you do what you want to do. :)

    • @menina Thanks for your opinion 🙂 But I think i am going to fake it for hook-ups cause I think that most women are attracted to this type of man. But I will definitely not fake it if I am looking for a relationship, but instead go for a woman who is like you. ☺️

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  • Obviously me and my Beard are more desirable than either of them.

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  • 1. he definitely more is more on the boyish cute side than the bad boy side
    2. I would say that the boyish look is more attractive than the bad boy look.
    3. Well considering I don't really find Jay Alvarez that attractive in the first place because he looks like an absolute fuck boy, No, finding out he was a bad boy would only make me like him less.
    4. I guess Jeremy Meeks is attractive but no offense to him, he seem like more of a hook up than a long term relationship, Jay seems... I don't know more safe?

    Now my turn for a question!

    Why are you so interested in the topic of bad boys? what has got this idea of bad boys stuck in your brain and what are you trying to figure out and why?

    • @zollo Thanks for your opinion and for answering all 4 questions! I will answer your questions now: „what has got this idea of bad boys stuck in your brain […]“ I always had the impression that most women prefer Bad Boys based on observations in my life. But what made me ask these questions is a good friend of mine who told me the other day why he was rejected by a woman. Let me tell you his story: He's doing an FSJ. (it is German and means: "voluntary social year". This is quite common among young adults in Germany. It is voluntary work for one year after school). He works in a hospital. There he saw another female FSJ participant. They only talked very briefly and quickly exchanged phone numbers. I have to say, he tried to look like a bad boy on purpose. He told me that he also took care to speak in a deep voice 🤦‍♂️😂🤣😅. He looks optically like a bad boy (also wears a leather jacket), but he is not one. In the evening he texted a little with her and she invited him to her room. So he went to her apartment and talked to her for about half an hour. He didn't pay attention to appearing like a bad boy anymore, but was just the way he really is. When he wanted to kiss her, she rejected him, and told him why she suddenly had no interest in him anymore. She said that in the beginning he looked like a bad boy and that this turned her on and that she now noticed that he was actually quite different, namely friendly and kind and therefore lost interest. He told me that he has learned his lesson ☝️ and that this mistake will definitely not happen again to him 😎.

    • @zollo „Why are you so interested in the topic of bad boys?“ Because I am definitely not a bad boy and will never be! The fact that most women are attracted to bad boys leads to a disadvantage to me for not being an asshole. And this bothers me. You may laugh about my way of thinking on this topic but this is just the logical consequence. But I do not accept to be disadvantaged by nature in any form for morally correct behavior. A woman may not be attracted to me and may reject me for whatever reason but I will ensure that „you are not a bad boy“ will never be the reason. That’s why I am going to fake this whole Bad Boy image. „[…]what are you trying to figure out[…]“ I want to know the real percentage of women not being attracted to bad boys at all (if that percentage even exists 😬) and I will figure it out through an elaborate Tinder experiment I am planning. But it can take like half a year or so for me to do it because I need a lot of time at once to do it and I am too busy right now. I am already curious about the results tough just like my friend 😀

    • Well personally I'd say that a lot of the women looking for a "Bad boy" are probably young and just want to try something that's guaranteed to be new and fun. I mean how many girls actually end up marrying a bad boy, probably not a lot because as people get older they won't stability not erratic behavior.

  • Jeremy Leeks looks better but he is a violent convict which is why I voted for the surfer

  • bad boy is a boring cliche... give me a boy or man who's seems to be in love with me kind to me even loving even if it's our 1st date... definitely don't like a man who's overly aggressive definitely not someone who i feel violence towards me or the deadly sins jealousy... i know it's natural to feel insecure but keep it in check no need to be insecure if we're with each other... guys don't get it... the last thing i need is someone who's questioning every man i talk to... i talk and i always will... so that bad boy stuff is just that stuff for boys and let's move on from that... life's tough as it is let's not get crazy.

    • @chrissykerdock I am pleased to read that, but unfortunately they are an exception. "bad boy is a boring cliche" A cliché that most women confirm

  • Dam dude you are very insecure about this whole bad boy thing huh? It almost seems like you are ignoring responses that don't agree with your pre existing conclusion and taking the ones that say "that guy is attractive" as supporting your existing your conclusion further :/

    Don't know what to say to you but maybe just consider some girls/women just found his facial structure attractive but it has nothing to do with this "bad boy phenomenon" that you keep trying to prove haha

    Just relax you don't need to be a bad boy or a good boy everyone has there own attractions and turn offs so just because you get some people online saying they like the looks of a guy doesn't mean everyone loves "bad boys" or something haha

    • @hartleyb "Don't know what to say to you but maybe just consider some girls/women just found his facial structure attractive but it has nothing to do with this "bad boy phenomenon" that you keep trying to prove haha“ No, I checked. It definitely has something to do with his face. But his criminal past also makes him more attractive. It's a mix of the two. Some women say so themselves "you get some people online saying they like the looks of a guy doesn't mean everyone loves "bad boys" or something haha" No, you're misrepresenting it completely. Most women themselves say they're more attracted to bad boys. It's not about looks. It's about bad behavior. It's about criminal history, dealing drugs and beating people up and all that.

    • @hartleyb "Dam dude you are very insecure about this whole bad boy thing huh?" Not at all honey. I'm trying to explain it to you. I know you don't have to be a bad boy to get tons of women into bed, but I'm convinced that even a very attractive-looking man is even more attractive to women when he's a bad boy. Even if I were Jay Alvarez, the idea that a clone of mine who is exactly the same as me, with the only difference that he is an asshole, and only because of that, is even more attractive to women, would not let me fall asleep at night. It's a principle thing for me! Usually it's like this: Women like something, for example confidence. Every man knows this and every shy man can try to become more confident in his life. I think that's a good thing, because women subconsciously steer men in a direction that is generally good. It makes absolute sense to be confident in life, independent from women, because otherwise you can't achieve anything. Every man can participate in this "competition" to be confident. Some are from the very beginning, others will be, and others remain shy and therefore less attractive for women. But that is life. Exactly the same is true with an attractive body: Most women go for well-trained men. Every man knows this and can consider whether he wants to take part in this "competition" or whether he is too lazy for that. Some men enjoy training, others not. But at least everyone has the chance! Everyone is treated fairly.

    • @hartleyb There are of course some things you can't influence like for example: supposedly women are totally into very tall men, but you are only 1,70m tall. This is called bad luck. But at least you have no problem with tall men, because there is no reason to have anything against them. Only the bad boy topic is a competition in which you can't participate (because of your own moral convictions) but the women evaluate you as if you had participated and finished last. You look less attractive even though you could have won the competition. It is not fair play. The thing is: I won't accept that I look less attractive than bad boys because of my morally correct behaviour (not becoming a gang member, not beating somebody up for no reason, not being an arrogant asshole and not dealing hard drugs etc.) The reason why I don't deal hard drugs is not because I'm too pussy for it, but because I consider it morally wrong myself to take advantage of someone who has an addiction he can't get himself out of and which might ruin his whole life, just to make some money. So I wouldn't deal hard drugs if it was legal! But the subconscious that is responsible for the sexual arousal of women unfortunately does not understand this. That's too bad, because I'm claiming to be a damn good drug dealer. I would be one with business acumen. I'd be the drug lord. I'd be Pablo Escobar

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  • You chose very bad examples. I can't believe you are so surprised at the results, this is not bad boy vs good boy, you picked one that looks like a drug addict vs one that looks kinda childish. I am not attracted to either but picked Jay since he looks healthier.

    • @porcelaine Come on that’s not true 😅 Jeremy Meeks doesn’t look like an drug addict. He definitely looks like a Bad Boy. And jay Alvarez is also very attractive for many women. Yes he does not look very manly, but I think it’s a bit exaggerated calling him to look kinda childish 😂😂. Nevertheless, many women are totally attracted to him. Which guy would you pick if I asked you between jay Alvarez and Dan Bilzerian?

    • Yeaah, Jeremy looks like he does cocaine. Typical hollow faced skinny, lifeless eyes. Jay alvarez looks childish. But I am 28 so I like guys my age I guess he just seems a bit babyfaced. But if I were 21 definitely Jay. I would be all over him. If a guy can pull off long hair thats hot. Jay vs Dan? But I did not choose Dan in the other poll with multiple guys. Still Jay

    • @porcelaine Can you think of an example of a man that you consider to be super hot?

  • Honestly I don’t do hook ups and never will. Also, even if I was to be attracted to a bad boy I still wouldn’t actually place myself in relationship with them and put myself through that as ik it wouldn’t end good. I might’ve chosen one if I was younger and still learning or rebelling a bit at times. I learn quick so I would want a clean looking gentlemen who will actually be serious, able to provide and reciprocate and take care of me the way I do for him as well as love. This type of guy will be more stable and mature, he would be a choice not an option and someone I could see myself having a future with which is way more better and important.

    • @ssam23 Thanks for your opinion! At what age was your bad boy phase?

    • Anytime! Haha truth is sometimes I can still be into them, it just depends but at the end of the day I wouldn’t want to waste my time and know how it ends from observation in real life and movies. I would still choose a more serious and future oriented guy. I’m not one to be used...

    • @ssam23 Haha ok

  • Because Jeremy Meeks is ugly af

    • @yads_is_back Ok wow with you women the opinion ranges from yours to: He is so hot I want a child from him 😩😍

    • Well look at him... lol. Some women like him, but his looks make me wanna vomit. Everybody's taste is a little different :)

  • i quite like that you are conducting a very detailed and long research on this. However it's common to be confused by the internet because you have all sorts of answers and opinions.
    I think Jay Alvarez is more boyishly cute than bad boy type. This was purely based on the available info we were given, what they did and their looks.
    My preference are both, but i have a theory that this is somewhat based on the girls age. A girl below 20 (including maturity) will more likely choose a more boyish guy with associated childishness ( bad boys) as their preference as opposed to older woman who want manly boys ( mostly good guys). Q3- As per my previous answer to your question, I wouldn't be more attracted to Jay Alvarez more just because he's a good guy cuz that's not what i look for in a guy. Q4- Jay Alvarez has an advantage in the looks department- his heterochromia, i think that helped him do much better than Jeremy Meeks, along with the fact that Jeremy was a sex offender, which should scare off whoever wanted to vote for him cuz they dont wanna die.

    • @miredda I'm glad to hear it and thanks a lot for your detailed opinion 🙂

  • I know what you are saying. I know girls who like boyish men like (Ashton Kutcher). I like manlier looking guys like excuse me but (Patrick Bateman) lol... not the character.
    Girls like masculine men and bad boys tend to display aloofness which comes across that they are in control of their emotions when in reality he just doesn’t care. You can see how that can come across as attractive... Also they are usually dominating! maybe they’re being slightly abusive or rude but it is coming across as being dominant to women. Again that is attractive to women. Because most women aren’t the Hard logical type they can’t tell the difference. But it’s hard wired as you can see.
    ..
    Boyish men remind me of the guys you wanted as a teenager, but I’m just attracted to maturity... that’s just me! I see boyish men as playful and not ready to settle down.

    • @teamo_20

      "... maybe they're being slightly abusive or rude but it is coming across as being dominant to women. Again that is attractive to women."

      This is exactly what I've always suspected! Being abusive and rude makes one unlikable, right? But it's sexually attractive to women, because it' also seems dominant to women.
      To check my suspicion I made this poll: What describes a dominant man in generell best? ↗

      But why is the result that the vast majority of women do not consider dominant behaviour to be unlikable but attractive? instead they consider it to be likeable and attractive! Do you know the answer for this?

    • I hate to speak for all women ( myself specifically) but you need to stop asking women’s opinion. You know the answer. You know the results and the outcome. If you are logical you will understand that an emotional women will see a rude man as dominant and not be able to discern the difference between Uncaring vs Dominate in control of his emotions man.

    • If you believe women don’t like nice guys because they are nice that is incorrect. Women don’t like non dominant men. Their definition of dominant depends on society standards and how they were raised. Here in America men literally have to take control in everything. Find that woman who’s viewpoint is not extremist

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  • Why do you invite me to this? I would see jail or violence or crime or drugs as a huge huge huge red flag. I think the girls who are attracted to this type of guys are insecure and/or low iq and I think the "bad boys" who have tats from head to toe are also just trying to hide either a small... u know... or hiding the little scared insecure boy inside it all

    • @natashakir72

      I like the idea, but honestly I don't believe that penis length correlates with crime and generally morally wrong behaviour.

      I'm glad it's different with you, but according to my poll, 60% of women themselves say that they like bad boys. Is it true that women find a man attractive as either a long-term mate or a short-term mate, but not for both? ↗

      Unfortunately I have to doubt the 40% of women who claim that they do not find this type of man attractive. One woman mentioned that she does not like men at all and therefore voted against Bad Boys. Another one says that she is asexual. And with the other women I unfortunately have to assume a dark figure, because many women (for whatever reason) think that it would be morally reprehensible to find bad behaviour sexually attractive or do not want to admit it for reasons unknown to me.
      There are tons of videos on YouTube of street surveys where women are asked if they prefer bad boys or good guys and most say bad boys. It's especially extreme when the polls take place at night in front of a club when the women are a bit drunk (and therefore probably more honest). Then it is something like 85%.

      To sum it up: I guess you are more of an exception and one of these 15% of women I could consider marrying one day 😘

    • Well ok I don't know I just don't want a guy like that. My boyfriend has a career, earning good money, treat me good, and is respected by others and I like him over any drunk retard in jail

    • @natashakir72 Please answer honestly: Image it is just about having a one night stand. Would you still prefer your boyfriend over a Bad Boy? I guess you can answer 100% honestly cause your boyfriend won’t find out 😅

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  • 1. Boyish/cute
    2. I don't like either types.
    3. No way.
    4. Probably cause you put that he was in prison for being a sex offender.

    • @iloveanime Thanks a lot for answering all 4 questions! 4. I actually just said that he beated up a 16 year old, not that he was a sex offender!

    • Oh, my bad. I saw he was arrested for assault and assumed

  • Can you please stop asking questions like this? My answer is the same as always; I don’t find bad boys sexually attractive. I find them repulsive. Case closed.

    • @poppymarie Glad to her that, but you are representing a small group of women. Most women have a different opinion than you and even more than 60% admit it. You can see that for example in the results of my poll

    • Most of your respondents actually seem to indicate the opposite

    • @poppymarie "Most of your respondents actually seem to indicate the opposite" As far as the answers in the comments here are concerned, you are right. But that could be because women who like Bad Boy don't comment anymore, because you women all think it makes me insecure. 😂😂 The only thing that really makes me insecure is when I'm not being told 100% truth.

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  • You invited me to answer this so I will. Truth be told I have no clue who either of these are

  • I mean, I don't know why you're asking this when 23, at this age it's really just about your personality. This bad boy/ soft boy thing dosent last much longer after high school.

    • @jelly77 „at this age it's really just about your personality.“ I don’t think so. I agree with you: the older the woman, the weaker the bad boy syndrome in her head. But with 23 it is still omnipresent. By the way I am actually 22 😉 And I don’t want to wait until the women and me are being 40

  • You are right. You keep inviting me to share an opinion on your questions but every single one is about bad boys. So I never answer because I am getting tired of all the bad boy questions

    • @proteus912 Not true. Not every single one! But most. I had for example the Dan Bilzerian question and the which increases a mans sex appeal most. I invite all 1500 people whom I follow to my questions, although most of them are already inactive. If you don't like my questions, it's best to simply block me or tell me and I won't follow you anymore and won't invite you to my questions.

    • I don't mind being invited to answer your questions, but I just don't for the bad boy ones. If you had different topics and different questions I would.

    • @proteus912 There will probably be one or another Bad Boy question from me in the future, but I will also ask other questions.

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  • Nah. Not a big fan of bad boys personally.

    • @giveitashance Not at all? Not even on a purely sexual level?

    • @giveitashance Still curious about your opinion 🙂

  • I just found the last dude attractive. 😂 The rest looked so meh and as someone said criminal record = no thanks.

    • @therealsalami The last one, so jay Alvarez?

    • @therealsalami Which guy do you mean with: the last? Cause the last one of these two is the non criminal!

  • At this point I just think you are jealous and obsessed with bad boys loool let it goooo. Women like good men as well.

    • @bellaco „At this point I just think you are jealous and obsessed with bad boys loool let it goooo.“ Not at all honey. Quite the opposit. I am proud of not being a bad boy and that I don't change in the slightest way in this direction just because women find this Typ of men extremely hot. I'm becoming even more of a good guy than I already am because of it. I don’t care at all how many pussys my principles cost me.

    • @bellaco "Women like good men as well." Yeah, definitely, but that's not the point for me. All I care about is which of the two types of men is more attractive. Even if I were Dan Bilzerian, the idea that a clone of mine who is exactly the same as me, with the only difference that he is an asshole, and only because of that, is even more attractive to women, would not let me fall asleep at night. That’s why I am going to fake this hole Bad Boy shit

    • You say you ain't but that's all you talk about... I think someone wants a bad boy😂😜

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  • You do realize that most females are complete scatterbrains, right? I mean not all of us are but the vast majority are complete basket cases. Why would you assume any logic is being applied by girls who like "bad boys?" For example, you see how America is falling apart and how the majority of American white women voted for Donald fucking Trump. The guy is an obvious shithead but dumbass broads voted for that asshat. I am wondering if you are stupid if this fact isn't totally obvious to you by now. 23 is pretty goddamn old. Also, your question is one of the dumbest I have ever read on this site! For serious.

    • And why exactly do you consider my question to be stupid? I collect information about the bad boy phenomenon and try to understand it in detail. What is stupid about that? why do you get to be insulting? It seems like you're the one who has absolutely no understanding on the subject of this question at all. „Why would you assume any logic is being applied by girls who like "bad boys?"“ Oh my God, how stupid are you? 😂 Of course, the women who go for Bad Boys do not apply logic on a conscious level! But their sex drive operates logically! The sex drive always has the goal to reproduce successfully and I see no reason why logical conclusions should not be applied to mating strategies 🤷‍♂️. „For example, you see how America is falling apart and how the majority of American white women voted for Donald fucking Trump.“ Honey, what the hell does the election of Trump has to do with this subject? In Europe, when people think of Americans, they have the cliché that you US Americans are very stupid people. I don't like clichés, but you definitely confirm it. For serious.

    • Yeah well I was chatting with this teenage girl and she said she likes bad boys. I told her why that is a bad idea, etc. and then she said a monster-cocked bad boy gave her butt sex. You see? How is that helping the bad boy and dopey girl to reproduce? Unless the human butt has sprouted Fallopian tubes, it's completely nonsensical as to why some girls are attracted to bad boys. It's not necessarily for reproduction. Nothing biologically-related can explain it. I'm telling you, many girls have cottage cheese for brains, kinda like you. Because my whole fucking point is people are stupid. You are also stupid because you are repeatedly trying to apply logic to something that is FUCKING STUPID. You are the one who just proved the point, dimwit. Fo' shizzle.

    • @supercutebutt To make it short: you are stupid. I am clever. I always figure out what interests me. It needs to much time to explain and I don’t want to waste my time to a rude and insulting person like you but there is also an evolutionary reason for anal sex.

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  • 1. Do you think Jay Alvarez looks more boyish/cute or more like a bad boy, or neither?

    Jay Alvarez doesn't look like a bad boy type. He looks cute

    2. do you find boyish looking men even more attractive than bad boys?

    Yes to that

    3. would you consider Jay Alvarez to be even more attractive if you found out that he is a bad boy in real life although he doesn’t look like one?

    No I'd run away

    4. do you have any other explanation why Jeremy Meeks did so much worse in my poll than Jay Alvarez, even though so many women claim that Jeremy Meeks is extremely attractive?

    He is attractive but I think women are not that visual as in comparison with men. We are keen on behavior of the guy. Like the appearance matter but just not too much. I am saying for the majority of women. Minority are welcomed too!

    • @hazelstar99 Thanks for your opinion!

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