What should the age of consent be?

[Twinrova]

In most of the westernized world it is 14-16. I think 15 or 16 is fine; you know what you're agreeing to at that point in your life. This map shows that only a few American states have the age of consent at 18.

Turquoise = 13, light blue = 14, standard blue = 15, dark blue = 16, brown = 17, green = 18, pink = must be married.

[Anonymous]

The age of consent really varies. Physically a woman can technically have sex and have babies as soon as she starts her periods. That age varies for every girl. It can be anywhere between nine and 13 on average. Some rare cases where girls don’t start until after 13 or they start very early before nine even.

I began menstruating at nine. I have an hourglass body and even at that age it was almost fully formed. My boobs were still growing but I had the form of a woman. Mentally I wasn’t ready to have sex or kids but I think by 12 I could have had sex and many girls are sexually active at that age in fact. I could have had a kid but I was still so naive at that age even though I was more mature than the girls my age. I was several years ahead of my age in terms of maturity and wisdom but still I think not ready to raise a child. Many girls have raised children since they were 10 not even that long ago. 100 years ago it was common in rural areas around the world for girls to be married at nine and boys around their pre-teens and early teens. They would become grandparents in their early 20s.
I think everything is dependent on the situation. If you become a mother at 10 and you’re aware of your responsibilities, you’ll learn and you’ll get the hang of it sooner or later. I think it’s ridiculous when people think it’s crazy for a 14-year-old to be married or have kids when they know they’re having sex and if anyone says they’re physically capable to then they think you’re crazy or promoting “paedophilia” it’s not paedophilia if the girl is above the age of puberty. Paedophilia is the attraction to pre-pubsecent children. Men are attracted to women with feminine form. Some girls as young as 11 have feminine forms and have begun their menses. Naturally, biologically men are attracted to young women. There’s nothing wrong with a man being attracted to the form of a woman. Maybe a girl of 11 is childish and immature and that sounds very young but believe me at 11 I had a very very attractive hourglass frame. My measurements then were 30-20-30 and I was 5’2 and my measurements now are 32D-23-33 at 5’6 in my very early 20s.

[dublin_sexyeyes0]

I get that. I know a few girls the age group you refer to with fairly well formed physical attributes. I've even overheard one or two of their conversations. Niave, maybe, curious, definitely, knowledgable, absolutely.

[peachyxlily]

scientifically men only start being attracted to girls around 15... not earlier unless they look that age and older. it's not the healthiest to have a kid with a girl even if she had her period, that's why. only people who have something wrong with them are attracted to 12 yos. anyways at 12 you might have had tits and everything but you still really looked like a kid. face wise especially. besides most 12 yos who have sex with older men get ptsd and have ruined lives. same goes for 13-14 yos. it's not okay, they're just children. what you're saying shouldn't be even allowed on here tbh it's promoting sexual abuse

[dublin_sexyeyes0]

I re-read her post, she's not promoting "abuse" at all.

[Opinion Owner]

@peachyxlily face wise even now at 22 I have a baby face. I have sharp features but I have an innocent face and people think I am 12. Men like innocent faces and voices. Some celebrities even look really young in their 20s and men are attracted to them. Face is genetic. Some girls at 11 have old faces and some girls at 21 have really young faces. I knew a middle aged man who was attracted to teenage girls with baby faces. I find it weird only if the girl doesn’t have a woman’s body. It’s totally natural for men to be attracted to the feminine form. I may have been a special case as in my year at school I was the only girl with fully developed parts like wide hips and big boobs but I couldn’t blame men for thinking that was attractive.

[dublin_sexyeyes0]

Speaking of faces... my friends with benefits is in her early 20s and when we were in a pubin Cork (Ireland) this man we got chatting to said she looked 12. She was thrilled. She is quite young looking and she LOVES it when she's told it.

[Opinion Owner]

@dublin_sexyeyes0 yeah exactly! It means we will look 21 when we are 50+ haha it’s a good thing. Your friend is probably small framed too. I’m around 5’7 but very small framed which makes me look younger too. Your friend is very lucky.

[dublin_sexyeyes0]

Yes she is very petite. She gets so excited when she's referred to being young looking. And i agree... in later life it will serve you very well.

[Opinion Owner]

@dublin_sexyeyes0 It is exciting and the best compliment. A woman spat out her coffee when I told her my age. It was the best reaction and the biggest compliment I ever had in my life. She thought I was the same age as her 11-year-old daughter.

[dublin_sexyeyes0]

Thats so cool. When i was 28 i was refused entry to a pub cos they thought i was under 18. I was never so happy to be refused entry to a pub lol. Im 54 now and i get told i look still in 40s... happy fuckin days lol (by the way 45 age on profile was cos when i set up my acc my girlfriend told me not to say my age... and now i can't change it)

[Opinion Owner]

@dublin_sexyeyes0 Yes it is always good to look a lot younger. We can thank our parents for these genes that are so resilient against ageing.

[mistixs]

"Paedophilia is the attraction to pre-pubsecent children. Men are attracted to women with feminine form. Some girls as young as 11 have feminine forms and have begun their menses." "I had a very very attractive hourglass frame" 🤢 Yeah you're definitely a man hiding behind pink anon in order to make your response seem less perverted

[Opinion Owner]

@mistixs I am a girl as much as you want to paint me as a boy. I have a vagina like you if you even do. But I don’t need to explain myself to you. Just cos I don’t agree with you or think like you it doesn’t mean I’m a man. You’re prob jealous I had a gorgeous frame so young or that I still have such a coveted form.

[mistixs]

You claim that you were "thrilled" to be mistaken for an 11 year old, which makes me doubtful that you're actually a woman who has experienced that. I've experienced that & I'm used to it now, but it was never a compliment, only belittling and humiliating. I could see it being a compliment if you were mistaken for being 18, but no woman wants to be seen as a literal child. Also no woman remembers her measurements from when she was 11. I don't think I was ever even told what my measurements were when I was 11. And the "women got married at age 10 in many cultures" and "it's not pedophilia if they reached puberty" are statements I've only ever heard from men trying to justify pedophilia.

[mistixs]

I'm actually underweight (90 pounds and 5'0) and am open on GAG about my struggle to gain weight, but go off.

[mistixs]

Then you have a BMI of 15.7 which is in starvation levels according to the WHO (I know because I was at that BMI a year ago) and you should work with a doctor to reach a healthy weight.

[peachyxlily]

tbh you do sound like a dude under a pink anon, after rereading everything you said. I mean I don't know if you are, but you do sound like it. anyways if your not, i'm pretty sure something happened to you at that age. you probs also have an ED too. if you're at a bmi of 15, you're getting close to the dangerous ones. 11 and under you'll die likely. don't go lower, your very very skinny likely. before you call me fat & ugly, I'm 52kg for 1m73 & I'm kinda pretty. no jealous feelings, I just feel very strongly about this kind of stuff. nothing to do with you. pers I've had sex with older men at 15-16 and obviously I wasn't traumatized because I was in my mid teens but it did fuck me up and it was hard mentally to do, and I can't imagine how that would be like for a 13 year old. anything that can make it so some people are like 'okay it's not that bad" I can't sit with

[Liz_thorne]

In Germany the age of consent is 14 but only if sexual relations are with other underage people. I think that's okay. It's really useless to prohibit teenagers from having sex, just educate them properly so they will be able to make informed decisions.

[likelyOK]

Right but what these men are trying to implement is sex with adults at the age of like 14 15 which is sick be they are probably doing that themselves or allowing pedophilia

[Twinrova]

@likelyOK Only 15% of pole results advocate for age 14 and 15 combined dude. Also, a 15 year old understands the consequences of their actions at that age. And I don't know how you don't know what the word pedophile means, but it is someone who is attracted to prepubescent children.

[Liz_thorne]

Dude, children aren't mature enough to consent to sex with adults, even at 15. And being attracted to children in puberty is just as pathologic as being attracted to prebubescent children. They are not mature, they cannot be equated with adults.

[Twinrova]

Why is that? They have taken sex ed at that point in their life. They understand the risk of sexual relations, and at 15, 16 years old you are smart enough to decide whether you want to risk pregnancy/stds for yourself. If you actually think pedophilia and attraction to someone in their mid-late teens is equally pathological then you don't know what pathology is. As a prepubescent child you have no idea what you're getting into, you can't give informed consent. Even if you think a 16 year old can't either, to say they are on the same playing field as a 6 year old in terms of what they know, and how intelligent they are is just insane.

[Liz_thorne]

Pubescent children can very easily be manipulated, if you fail to understand this, you are either incredibly dumb or speaking out of malice

[Twinrova]

Speaking of misunderstanding... I literally just said that. What are you disagreeing with?

[Liz_thorne]

Pubescent children, not prebubescent ones.

[Twinrova]

Let's say a 6 year old and a 16 year old both consent to sex with a 30 year old. Which one is more informed about the potential consequences?

[Liz_thorne]

None of them can consent to sex with a 30 year old. Period. There's nothing that has to be discussed further. Just admit that you want to diddle kids.

[Twinrova]

Even if you say they cannot, can one be more informed than the other? Stop dodging my question. I know it's hard to give an answer when you don't know what you're talking about, but try your best :)

[Liz_thorne]

Obviously a 16 year old knows more about sex than a 6 year old. However thats irrelevant and not the gotcha you think it is.

[Twinrova]

You said that someone attracted to 16 year olds and someone attracted to 6 year olds are equally as pathological... How can they be equally as pathological if one is less able to understand what is happening than the other? It's like asking should I give a loan to a 6 year old or a 16 year old? Which one would I be taking greater advantage of? The answer from any sane person would be: the 16 year old, because they know more. You're extremely dumb, and I have no reservations about saying that since you're also a bitch.

[Liz_thorne]

www.psychologytoday.com/intl/basics/hebephilia
Here's an article about Hebephilia you absolute fucking moron.

Knowing what sex is doesn't mean that person can consent or won't be exploited by someone double their age. I hope you stay away from children, you sick fuck.

[Twinrova]

You're incredibly dumb , dude. I am advocating for the age of consent to be 16, and you giv eme an article about 11-14 year olds. Also, you still haven't answered my question. Would you like to stop dodging it at any point? Dumb fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

[Twinrova]

@liz_thorne STOP DODGING QUESTIONS! Having sex with a 6 year old and 16 year old is not equally as pathological, and you can't defend your position against that statement. Is that why you're dodging ym question?

[Liz_thorne]

You know what, have fun. Diddle some 16 y/o destroy her life and have your ass destroyed in jail in return. In the end, you don't make laws and that's good the way it is. You're disgusting for wanting to fuck kids, you're not a good person. Nothing you say will change that. I'm going to leave you with some advice: go to therapy. Find out why you're attracted to minors that are neither physically nor mentally mature and make sure that you never hurt anyone. I'm out, I'm not going to argue with someone who has such a deeply deeply pathological way of thinking and lack of empathy for those weaker than himself.

[Twinrova]

So you're still dodging my question because you know you will look like an idiot. Also 16 year olds are physically matured... you're an idiot. Also, over 95% of the planet has the age of consent at less than 18. So should everyone who agrees that the age of consent should be less than 18 go seek help from a therapist to? 14-16 is the age of consent 9in the vast majority of the western world, lmfao. You know you're dumb, and you know you fucked up.

[Twinrova]

too*

[Torari]

@liz_thorne 1. That's a popsci website which frankly, is highly politicized and often inaccurate. 2. 16y fits squarely into the Ephebophile category. Hebephilia is 11-15, or more accurately, early puberty. So the article itself is irrelevant regardless of source.

[Regmorus]

@Twinrova Well what can I say about the update, since you informed us ALL. Your own fault to have informed me:) You both tried to relentlessly make your point instead of trying to understand each other. Because your companion was more imbalanced she readily was inclined to think that you are some agitator for sex with children. She was less in right - in my humble opinion - indeed since her assumption has arosen from literally nothing because this was just a thought experiment. Maybe her attitude is justified by some traumatic experiences (maybe of people known to her). But you, instead of to calmly and politely explain, that what you meant was just some constructed situation to make clear that we can't set entirely equal consent coming from pubescent and from prepubescent, instead you indulged in expaining how wrong she is which exalted the mental state provided by her attitude toward the problem even more. In the end your argument "we can't view as entirely equal consent from pubescent and prepubescent" was made for nothing - though I should admit you are right that if we look at these two events they are completely different - made for nothing since her point was not that we can view them as equal, but only that we should view them as EQUALLY INAPPROPRIATE. If you would have first understood that she means that, would have given to understand that you get her point and only afterwards would have made your point that we can't regard the two cases of consent as entirely equal, then it would have been a calm and cordial talk. But instead you have chosen to do your own thing without any attepmts to understand the other. Your conversation perfectly illustrates why people only very rarely can reach mutual understanding today. Sad.

[Twinrova]

@Regmorus Tbh I think the reason there was no mutual understanding is because people on the internet won't just admit they're wrong. XD

[Regmorus]

That's the easy way. If you want to blame others in the first place, you can go this one, but it's kinda pathetic cause one can (try to) do better:) If you are smart enough to see what you personally could have done better, you (try to) see the whole picture. Regardless of "who was less right and who was more right".

[dantetheexplorer]

In East Asia, it's around 13-16, depending on the country.
Which might seem shockingly low compared to 18.

But, to be honest, growing up, I can't remember any of us actually doing the deed. Yeah, everyone's hormonal at that age, so I'm sure plenty of us were thinking about sex, but a strong Confucian culture in this part of the world means that most of your teen years are spent studying, either in school or in extra classes after school. At the time, it felt like the only things we were allowed to do was studying, studying, studying. Day and night, studying. Solo study, after-school tuition classes, group study. There's hardly enough time to go out and do social things like watching a movie or going shopping with your friends, what more sneak off somewhere to have sex.

If anyone in my class had sex, I certainly didn't hear about it. I mean, I can only assume this, but if you get caught, it's not only shame for you, but for your entire family as well. And inflicting shame on your entire family is one of the worst things you could probably do in this part of the world.

As it is, from an informal poll among my mates from this part of the world, most of us only had sex for the first time when we were in university. There's still stress there, of course, because of the whole study culture and wanting to get the very best grades. But somehow, away from the watchful eyes of our strict parents and the constant, crushing stress of high-school study culture, you could sneak in a moment or two to engage in the act. If you were so inclined.

[OlderAndWiser]

One purpose of the age of consent is to protect young people from the consequences of actions which they are not sufficiently mature to understand. Any age that we select can be attacked as being arbitrary so, if we are going to have an age of consent at all, that argument becomes irrelevant. An 18 year old has a better ability to understand the long term consequences of their actions than a 14 year old. Yes, some 16 year olds are as mature as 18 year olds, but wherever we draw the line, it is done to protect most children and so I would choose age 18. It is the age at which we entrust young people with other adult decisions and sexual behavior should be treated as other adult decisions.

Another purpose for an age of consent is to protect children from predatory adults by criminalizing the predatory behavior. A 17 year old boy who has sex with a 15 year old girl is probably not motivated the same as a 35 year old guy who wants sex with the 15 year old girl, so the 17 year old boy should not have his behavior criminalized. That is why we have "close in age" exceptions in many jurisdictions.

[OlderAndWiser]

Thanks for MHO!

[Twinrova]

Of course :)

[btbc92]

18. That is a legal age for marriage. People shouldn't get married first. We would not be having these problems.

[btbc92]

People should get marriage first*

[Scarecrow13]

You can actually get married with parental permission before 18 in many US states still.

[btbc92]

I know that the age of 16 with parental consent exist. I have friends who married at 16, and we're pregnant. The point is many kids are not getting married, parents would actually forbid it and even threaten to cut off support for college of theu marry at 18. Yet complain about them getting pregnant. People here are ridiculous.

[zollo]

18 seems fine but it's not like i'm opposed to two 16 year old's consensually having sex with each other but wouldn't that also break the law if the age of consent was 18? I don't know If i'm just stupid of something but it also just seems weird that 2 kids could get in trouble for having sex when it wasn't coerced and they both agreed upon it.

[Sarahr123]

There are lots of 12 year olds and 13 year olds having sex with each other. I’ve heard an 11 year old had sex with a girl a few years older. They’re not physically getting damaged and they have started their menses so there’s no issue. Why do people make a fat issue out of nothing?

[zollo]

@Sarahr123 Maybe it was more normal a while ago but at 12 years old I was literally a 6th grader right out of elementary school, definitely not read for fucking sex. And even if girls had just started their period most of them probably haven't even used a tampon yet or even masturbated. Also how many kids are really ready for that so young? How many 12 to 13 year old's carried condoms with them? Like none. lol I still played with webkinz at that age, I don't think children or very young teens should dive into something so deep.

[Sarahr123]

I actually started playing with myself and having orgasms since I was like four. I didn’t use tampons till date, neither did any women in my family. Most women don’t use tampons in certain cultures. We always use pads. I have never inserted fingers in my vagina I always orgasm by squeezing or by playing with my clitoris. In the UK lots of kids have sex at 12/13 and condoms are free and easily accessible. We have sex education from a young age and they teach about STDs, where you can get condoms. Heck they even gave them to kids at school. I don’t see the fuss about it or what the big deal is. It would be different if they were 10 but I think by 13 a lot of kids want to and they become horny and curious. It’s natural.

[zollo]

@Sarahr123 I still just can't agree. I have rarely EVER heard of people loosing their virginity's at ages 12 or 13 especially with how common your making it seem. I think at that age it's perfectly okay to be exploring your own body but I think they're quite literally to young and dumb at that point. A 12 year old can't even see a pg 13 movie by themselves at that point, they can't get a job, they can't drive, and their dumb. Not many 12-13 year old ACTUALLY know what sex is and how to do it and are liable to mess up in a way that can hurt each other or worse. Most people who have had sex quite young usually regret it anyways because they and they're partner didn't know what they were doing.

[SamB2012]

Not sure on exact age
But I feel like it should be high, a lot of people I know who had sex at a young age ended up with kids and wish they hadn't. I'd say give enough time for them to mature beyond being super eager to just have sex, to a point where they are sensible enough to make long term decisions for their future.

[laPrincesitaRoxi]

14 year olds shouldn’t be giving consent wtf that’s INSANE to me and the reality is though a lot of pedos are in power and were in power so of course they’re gonna try and legalize pedophilia.
there's literally certain areas in the world where the age consent is even lower than that and American men love to go for it and it’s fucking heinous so honestly the “age of consent” being legal means absolutely nothing nobody under the age of 18 should be having sex with adults because there is absolutely a hugeee difference in brain size and the capability of actually make a logical good choose the same ways adults can.
As a normal adult I don’t know how anyone can look at teens and kids and be sexually attracted to them like no it just isn’t fucking okay like even the thought is gross 🤢

[PBandJ_Nerd]

If they're under 18 they should only be allowed to have sex with those who are around the same age as them.

[laPrincesitaRoxi]

I agree with that!

[PBandJ_Nerd]

I think some states who are under 18 have some sort of law like this actually. But I can't remember correctly.

[laPrincesitaRoxi]

Yes here in Cali I know for certain a 16 year old cannot legally have sex with a 13 year old, they could catch a statutory rape case.

[DiegoO]

To be honest, there is no big psychological difference between a 16-18yo, but I agree that 18y should be the limit for sexual consent, for reasons I already explained. . It amaze me that certain countries set 16y as a legal age of consent, but then, you see movies, video games, certain places, that says 18+. It can't be more bizarre.

[likelyOK]

Exactly!!!👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[PBandJ_Nerd]

@DiegoO It's because 16 isn't a legal adult. So they have to put the line somewhere to keep them safe. Age of majority is always 18 for this reason.

[6suejsjsj]

@PBandJ_Nerd 18 is a random number.

[DiegoO]

@PBandJ_Nerd But legal to consent sex? 🤯

[likelyOK]

What’s worse is the guy who polled this question and thatsamazin both think it’s okay to have sex with 14-16 year olds, if 20 something’s to thirty are having sex with kids I don’t think the law is strict enough for punishment

[DiegoO]

@likelyOK You should check the map of the EU age of consent. It also includes European countries that aren't part of the EU. Only Malta age of consent is 18+. That's why there are so much child abuse cases, and so much CSAM (child sexual abuse material) in the headlines. What I can't still get is why in Europe the law is so soft, even with people who commit those crimes.

[HappyAccident]

Wym by age of consent 😅

[Twinrova]

You know what I mean, don't be a dickhead.

[HappyAccident]

No I don't trust me if I did my response would be different xD

[Twinrova]

Age threshold to consent to sex.

[HappyAccident]

Oh ok I'm slow lol I'ma say 18 anything younger would feel weird tbh

[CharlieBadger]

It should be less than 18 but it should also have caveats attached to it.

Scaling consent based on the ages of both participants. There should also be Romeo laws in place. Those are laws that protect a person who is 18 years of age who is having sex with a person under the age of 18 but who has been dating said minor and was engaging in consensual sex prior to their reaching the age a majority.

In some states it is technically possible for a couple to start having sex legally and end up having sex illegally because someone turned 18 at midnight.

[purplepoppy]

Age of consent laws are more about protecting society from the burden of 13 year old single mothers than protecting the girl or her baby. Persons we need 2 ages of consent one for unprotect sex and one for sex with protection

[Sef24]

Protection isn't a fail-safe. You can still get pregnant; and even have a high chance unless using the protecting properly, or possibly using an IUD. If you have the mental maturity and capacity to consent to sexual relations, you should have the mental maturity and capacity to consent to unprotected sexual relations. It's should be the same age either way.

[dublin_sexyeyes0]

Interesting thought about pregnancy. Kinda makes sense.

[likelyOK]

That my be the laws way of thinking but most Americans who against 14 yr consent for example don’t want pevert old men or even 20 year old manipulating kids, be that is what they are I have one, into having sex with them or coercively making them do sexual things

[purplepoppy]

That's true but the law as it stands isn't protecting them either. Perhaps there should be an age band where men need the consent of her parents as well as hers.

[likelyOK]

Interesting proposal, assuming the parents are not trash. But this is food for thought

[PBandJ_Nerd]

I would say +18 because you might have a better idea of what you want to do. Plus, some activities require you to be 18 and older in order to do them. If it's under 18 then I think it should only be used to help teens get birth control pills and condoms a bit better. Anything else is a nope because you have to be an adult.

[scotcheggs]

it’s 16 where i live and i think that’s appropriate

[DiscomfortZone]

Yeah, that's because you're thinking how cool it would be to sleep with an older man, how awesome your female friends would find you. Wait till you're a parent, you'll see how messed up this whole thing is.

[Twinrova]

@DiscomfortZone Dude, what the hell is wrong with you? Lmao.

[DiscomfortZone]

According to your perverted standards, freak? A hell of a lot, and I take that as a compliment.

[Twinrova]

@DiscomfortZone I don't know, just something kind of odd about you haranguing some poor girl on the internet about wanting to fuck 30 year old men.

[Twinrova]

@discomfortzone Do you always just assume who people want to have sex with and then criticize them for it?

[DiscomfortZone]

There is nothing to assume about your kind. I am done giving you the cheap attention for which you beg. I only hope that some day your teenage daughter meets a creep like you, let's see your self-righteous narrative hold up then you scum.

[scotcheggs]

(Important point at the end, skip there if you want) Reality is, many many people are safely having sex before 18 and a legal consensual age isn’t going to stop people. How about stop being such an old fashioned prude? 🤨 Yes I’m 15 right now but saying 16 isn’t coming from a place of self interest since I personally want to wait until I’m older. I believe at 16 people know generally what’s good and what’s bad for them. I’m not saying that only females consent should be lower or anything but it’s a fact that female’s mental and usually physical maturity is pretty ahead. You can join the army at 16 (with parental consent) and (in some places like mine) you can drink at 16 yet you can’t have sex? Aren’t those already mature decisions to be making Lastly, which is one of the biggest factors to why this is my opinion, is because people can be shamed for having underaged sex when it was all consensual and safe. Although I’m allowed to legally have sex soon (nearly 16), I’m not going to. I assume for most people, that the age of consent doesn’t change people’s preferences on when they’re going to have sex but I am comforted knowing that if I change my mind, I wouldn’t be shamed because it’s legally allowed.

[ThomasTKay]

18 and older. Anyone under 18 is just asking for trouble. I found it troubling that people voted for 13 and under.

[Regmorus]

18 y. o.

[Regmorus]

well, that my brain says. Actually my feeling says 20.

[Thatsamazing]

You're wrong.

[Regmorus]

@Thatsamazing you think it should be 25?

[Thatsamazing]

No, I think-- because I am a stupid person, like most of the people on this post-- that it should be, I dunno, forty. Maybe forty-five.

[Thatsamazing]

Maybe fifty.

[Regmorus]

@Thatsamazing Oh, that's interesting opinion. But I don't agree. Well, people have different opinions, it happens. And the majority is not always right. Well, the majority of people has brought us where we are now - suffice to say:).

[Thatsamazing]

I actually don't think people ever emotionally and mentally mature to the point of being able to have sex. We should all just die out. The brain keeps developing until you die, you know. Or get dementia.

[Regmorus]

@Thatsamazing That's amazing!

[Thatsamazing]

Indeed; it's also a lie. I don't think that, because that would be idiotic. Just like the "feeling" of twenty.

[Regmorus]

@Thatsamazing Well, where we stopped joking around, I should just repeat it: People have different opinions. And of course everyone believes their is the truest one. It's natural. You sincerely believe it about yours just like I sincerely believe it about mine. That's all.

[Thatsamazing]

Uh... no, this is not an issue of that.

[Regmorus]

@Thatsamazing Hm, could you then elaborate how this is different resp. why you are absolutely convinced that what you proclaim is THE best?

[Thatsamazing]

Because someone is ready to have sex when they decide they're ready to have sex. No one else gets to decide that for them, and it is not based on a date on the calendar.

[Regmorus]

@Thatsamazing Well... I think we agree that it is at least not that simple. Some 12 y. o. could want to have sex, couldn't they?

[mistixs]

18 so that if a pregnancy happens, at least you won't have to drop out of high school.

[6suejsjsj]

Lol because the age of consent dictates when people have sex...

[JackSmy]

And even in those states, with consent set at 18, they still can't seem to figure out BIRTH CONTROL!! If they can't figure it out, at 18, what is a 14-16 year old expected to do?
Less than 18 is just child abuse, and statutory rape!!
I wouldn't even, and never have been with one less than 21-22!! They are just kids, younger than that!!!

[PinkMichae]

I think 18 years old because you are less naive and more responsible about birth control so you don't end up pregnant or getting someone pregnant.

[Catlover1999]

I find it very disturbing that some people voted for 13 or under.

[Tamera952]

16 across the board, period.

[Thatsamazing]

Correct.

[Sarahr123]

What if the 16 year old hasn’t even started menstruating yet?

[Thatsamazing]

@Sarahr123 Uh then she needs to consult a doctor, because that's not normal. What if the 18 year old hasn't even started menstruating yet? Let's make the age of consent 30 just to be safe.

[Sarahr123]

@Thatsamazing who tf said that? I don’t even think there should be a dumb age of consent. Who is the state to decide when people have sex? It’s 16 here but kids do it at 12 and they’re not dying or having their uterus ruptured. People are bloody stupid and crazy. If a girl has started her menses she can have sex. The normal time of starting menses is nine - thirteen. The age of consent should be like 12 then.

[Thatsamazing]

@Sarahr123 Sure, agreed, but that's my point then-- why are you bringing up menstruating as a defense then of keeping a higher consent age? Perhaps you weren't and I misunderstood you, in which case, my mistake. But if a girl still isn't menstruating by sixteen, she needs to consult a doctor.

[Sarahr123]

@Thatsamazing no I’m not saying it should be higher. This woman said it should always be sixteen. Why sixteen? Some girls haven’t begun menstruating then yet she thinks somehow everyone is ready at 16. So why not 14 or 12? That’s what I meant. People are stupid and don’t have any logic behind what they say. I say the age of being able to have sex without physical issues varies. I don’t believe in an age of consent for it tbh but if there has to be one then I would say 12 with the exception being for girls who haven’t begun menstruating yet. So it should be against the law to have sex with pre-pubescent girls. It should be legal to have sex with a woman who has reached the age of menarche. Scientifically and logically I am making sense.

[Thatsamazing]

@Sarahr123 Sure, but as everyone is different, the law cannot possibly reach all those various examples. A baseline must be met. The law shouldn't be measuring a female's period to decide if she can have sex.

[Sarahr123]

@Thatsamazing Why not? That is the best way to have a correct age. Maybe the law should be that it is illegal to have sex with anyone who hasn’t yet reached the age of menarche.

[Thatsamazing]

@Sarahr123 Because it isn't enforceable. It's impossible.

[Sarahr123]

@Thatsamazing why not? Everything is possible. What would prevent it from being enforced?

[Thatsamazing]

@Sarahr123 I cannot adequately respond to that. I don't know how to make it simpler, that the law cannot be based on whether a female has had her period yet or not. Sorry. It simply isn't, and can't be, that way.

[Sarahr123]

@Thatsamazing If the law can be used for pregnancy and other things then it can definitely be used for the age of menarche as a guideline for when it’s okay for a girl to have consensual sex legally.

[Thatsamazing]

@Sarahr123 "If the law can be used for pregnancy and other things" I don't know what this means.

[Tiffanyrosebarbie]

17 is about right

[Lyndsielee666]

You’re still a child at 15...

[DiscomfortZone]

Unlike 16? This guy is simply trying to normalize his perversions.

[Lyndsielee666]

@DiscomfortZone you’re still a child at 16 also

[JustTheTrue]

18 in my opinion.
i would say 21+ for girls to join the Adult Industry.
Not a lot of girls make good choices around 18 and that’s fine if it is a relationship since they learn from them, but for them to join the Adult industry isn’t a good thing. Some girls are petty and because they had a disagreement with their boyfriend or because they want to be famous join the Adult Industry. Then when everyone around her find out about the video, she regret it as things that are posted online never goes away and her life becomes differently mostly when they try to get into a relationship.

[hotfirework]

16. 14 is disturbing to me.

[007kingifrit]

its 16 in most places, america has 18 at the federal level but most states are 16 or 17

[DiscomfortZone]

You're thinking of a guy your age (19) with a girl only three years younger (16). Instead, think of a 30+ pathetic lowlife (like the guy posting this, for instance) sleeping with a 16 year old girl who doesn't yet understand why that's wrong (nor should she, that's why adults aren't supposed to take advantage of that).

[007kingifrit]

@DiscomfortZone there is nothing wrong with a 16 year old and 40 year old sleeping together, women like older men on average anyways

[DiscomfortZone]

So that's how you were born? Or do you wish this upon your daughter? Perverted freak.

[007kingifrit]

@DiscomfortZone when we guess at the motivations of others we reveal only our own maybe you need to be sexually motivated to propose an age of consent but i just don't see anything different between a 16 and 18 year old