"People masquerade as holding progressive political views to ensnare potential partners,” ... Wokefishermen can be thought of like catfishers — those who use fake online personas to defraud victims — but only for sex instead of money."
And y'all wonder why I don't try to date anymore? It's already bad enough that people play games or lie to try and get you in bed with them. Now we got this nonsense going on-
Ladies: we just need to get us a pet like a dog or a cat, and call it a day, LOL
Good morning! LOL
You get a pet I’ll get a holler and we’ll cheer the end of the human race because fuck them anyway
Morning Coach! I've missed your questions, I hope you're okay over there :) Can you tell I'm already on a tangent this morning? LOL. I better go hit the gym and get some food... food and exercise makes everything better :)
Women tend to be rather passionate about their political views and ideals. You see women with their gender pronouns (who cares) in a profile and of course, some men will want to imitate that to show that there's something relatable and humane about them, because if you aren't constantly showing how empathetic you are, by declaring your support for LBGTQ and feminism, black lives matter, etc., then you're not somebody these ladies will talk to. They'll likely assume you're a Trump supporter and dismiss you immediately, even if you have more of a neutral stance or just don't care. There's even people here who are assuming these "wokefishers" are conservatives when there's no real evidence to support that. The fact that some people are so biased and closed-minded is why this is even an issue and a tactic to getting laid. Politically, democrats are taught to hate republicans and vice versa. Ironically, there's very little understanding and acceptance from these self-proclaiming progressive men and women despite how empathetic they try to appear online.
In reality, this isn't any different than the overweight women trying to attract good looking dudes by attempting different angles and lighting to hide their body fat, in hopes that he'll be forgiving of her weight since she'll be able to demonstrate her personality instead. In dating/sex, people have always tried to find different ways to deceive others but I doubt it ever works out for very long.
I dont understand. Why are you faking yourself instead of dating conservative women. There is no reason for that
Well, who knows why they do it. It's possible that liberal women might be more sexually liberated and willing, while conservative women might be more difficult but who knows. Since I'm not somebody who would deceive a potential partner, I cannot relate to the "wokefish" tactic to make any sort of comparison. It's better to be honest about yourself and your intentions but perhaps some people do not believe it to be that harmful. This "psychopathy" doesn't inherently mean that they are conservative, however; that's a political stereotype like how everybody in California are anti-American communists or whatever they say about people in California. Obviously, that's untrue and I think these beliefs only show how biased and prejudiced people truly are. Despite how I might sometimes disagree with the ideas of my democratic friends as well as my more conservative ones, I don't pretend to be something I am not to benefit myself in some way. Personally, I'd never call myself either because people on both sides of the political spectrum are sometimes embarrassing to be around and I don't want to be associated with people who are actively prejudiced towards an opposing group that simply has a different set of values. I think that's immature that we cannot find a way to get along and instead, want to express hatred and negativity any time there is the opportunity.
No, I hadn't heard of that. But I'm not surprised at all.
However, I'm going to say something that may be controversial, but here it is: I believe this is partially the fault of the women for being so political in the first place. Love isn't about politics. But if you make your dating profile into a tirade against Trump, then that's what people are going to focus on when they chat with you, because the general advice is to read the girl's profile and indicate in your message that you have acknowledged the things that she is interested in. And, pretending to be interested -- you're not going to want to hear this but it's a cold, hard fact -- guys do this all the time. So yes, he's playing a game, but he's playing by the rules that you yourself have set up.
But, honestly, why the outrage, though? Does it really even matter? I mean, honestly? You're not going to have a relationship with this person (in most cases). Most people are just looking for hookups. And that's "just sex", right? Just a recreational activity? So if you're not sharing your soul with this person, then why would it matter if they're a "fascist" or not?
You need to read the article! People who are passionate about certain things like politics can find compatibility in another very quickly. So these men are using that as a way to get in the door and have a 3 or 6 month relationship which in reality is just a long term hook up! Both men and women need to connect on several important factors to truly have a relationship worth having.
I'm sure they can. It's just not the most important factor in making a true lasting connection with someone. And yes, what you said.
by the way, I also agree with @FictionalCharacter.
I just read the article...
“A wokefish may at first present themselves as a protest-attending, sex-positive, anti-racist, intersectional feminist who drinks ethically sourced oat milk and has read the back catalogue of Audre Lorde, twice.”
Multiple studies have shown that people are more likely to be attracted to partners with like political beliefs, with one survey revealing that millennials even prioritize politics over hanky-panky. Not to mention the fact that dating sites like Bumble and Tinder make it easy to filter prospects based on political affiliation. soooo, basically people are searching love through highly political opinionated/angry mob/protesters?🥴
Yeaaah, these people deserve each other. Then again I don’t want any more angry mobs 😅
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!I hadn't heard of the term, but this actually explains a bit about my ex.
He wasn't really a wokefish - he actually did do a year of gender studies and has some genuinely progressive thoughts (he's supportive of LGBTQ , for example) - but he definitely did backslide into some sexist and old fashioned views once he settled into the relationship.
It did lead to us having a breakdown in our relationship, as I refused to change my ways and he struggled to accept this.
It makes sense to me that desperate horny guys (and girls) would use tactics like this. It's gross and despicable (I find it disgusting to pretend to be someone you're not just to chase tail), but it makes sense.
It's a bit concerning, because it sort of encourages people to continue to be even more suspicious of others. That sort of deception has long lasting, hard to spot consequences.
Did you try and change for him? Prob not since you thought his views were “sexist and old fashioned”. What’s wrong with traditional views? That’s the problem with people they are never happy always crying for more. More recently women complained about dating apps needing to give power to women. Bumble gave women’s all the power and they have to reach out first. Now their complaining the guy should reach out first Women want equality but won’t do the tough, multi-shift jobs that are dirty or dangerous. They still wanna hit men in the face and think it’s wrong when the man puts them down a peg like we would to any other man. Women wanna #believeallwomen and #metoo and then find it offensive men want to keep distance for safety There was an incident in a train somewhere can’t rem where. This woman was attacked by a mental man. Two guys walked away and didn’t help her. She SAID in the article she was pissed at them not the mental man because they didn’t help. In a moment of clearing after getting drunk reports a guy for rape in college when they were both drunk and made bad choices... man gets suspended and has to come back after girls done with her degree... Women want men to pay for dates or their not a man. Be 6’+ but don’t fat shame me for being a slug. My kids come first you have no say. No I won’t change for you. Have a career. Get married. I don’t want anymore kids. These are problems with women from a mans perspective... women control the relationships up until the looks fade them men’s experience takes over and their even upset about this... women control 80% of household income. They don’t get drafted in war time. They aren’t looked at coldly for being stay at home with kids or even for going to places with kids... a spring woman’s celebrated by a women who cries is acceptable. Such an unbalanced system. I’m thinking if men weren’t so focused on being men we would aim for better and honestly half of all women wouldn’t be worth a second look
@VanillaSalt Well, if he'd been honest about his views up front, then that wouldn't have been a problem. He was the one who lied to be with me, not the other way around. I think you're projecting a little bit too much here, buddy. I let him go his own way - he clearly wasn't happy being with a woman like me, so I dumped him to let him find a woman more suited to his tastes. We ended amicably, even. And why would a woman ever bother trying to "change" a man? That's not only not possible, it isn't healthy - why would anyone get into a relationship wherein they have think they need to "fix" their partner? That's not a relationship I'd bother with, and I would advise you not to bother with that, either. Find yourself a woman who loves you for who you are - old fashioned and sexist views included. There's nothing wrong with "traditional" views themselves, just a wrong fit and compatability. You have some odd issues, man.
First off I said did you try and change for him not change him... also you said he went from woke to “sexist and old fashioned”... generally people date within similar politics woke women and woke men... and woke women thing of gender stereotypes as sexist and old fashioned... so a bit of assuming but you asked the question and this question assumes assumptions will be made.. Oh finally it’s not stupid to change for someone you care about...
Just another reason to not do online dating if you ask me... 🤷🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
All these dating sites are mostly bullshit because people are betraying themselves to be something they're not just for a hookup... So, no nothing people do on dating sites much surprises me. Surprises me more that people keep using them 🤷🏼♀️
Ha not true. You can find a supposed race car driver or big hollywood producer in a bar just as easily.
Yeah but you'll find out he on bullshit a lot sooner rather than later, after you invested time or caught feelings
You mean the r/niceguy peeps? Women have been calling these guys out for a while now and have made their existence clear for a while now.
We just get called ttpiclnwomen, when men think that women are not going for good guys, when in reality we already now they're assholes.
The only part of this that is new is that it is using technology that hasn't been around for decades.
Guys have feigned beliefs to get laid for decades.
Wait, you've only just realised men will say whatever they think women want to hear to get a date? I thought dating coaches taught guys to do that stuff.
Ha good male and female dating coaches alike would never teach stuff like that.
I haven't heard about this. But it doesn't surprise me. Some men are able to do anything to have sex, no matter if it's right or wrong.
I'm glad I don't use dating apps and that I'm single.
Option C.
"Shady men are pretending to be progressive" is a huge oxymoron. Don't you know male feminists are the most likely dudes to sexually assault you? There's literally not a single respectable male feminist in existence.
So this term is kinda dumb. Also what kind of extremely moronic man would "pretend" to be a Beta Male/simp in order to "impress women?" That's literally one of the least effective things you can do if you want to date/sleep with modern women. Beta Males are barely-useful idiots to useful idiots; like the broken wooden shield the insecure, untalented (female) feminist pawn uses on the chessboard; they're not even useful enough to be their own chess piece.
Nothing new, why give it a new name. CON ARTIST suits them all just fine.
Anyone that finesses, ghosts or any other fishing is a con artist.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with telling a person they don't wish to persue them further.
But these days everyone is always hedging their bets on their next come up they can't possibly say let's just be friends before hurting the person's feeling first.
Because apparently once you make yourself available apparently that means you are up for whatever. Ugh!
Modern civilisation really makes me ill.
I wouldn't touch half these people with a barge pole. Ugly heart, soul and personality. All for getting something over another.. Yuck!
Yuck is right!
They're asking for trouble. No Commiecrat chicks, please.
Heeeyy! My friend asked this question about 1 hour ago.
@1stranger thank you for pointing that out. This version of the question seemed to get featured though by G@G.
Ha I noticed! LOL
@coachTanthony what you do is wrong.. so wrong.
A "woke" guy would probably receive no attention from me. You start talking to me about feminism and shit, bye. so I will not worry myself with this bs
Anybody who is surprised by this is an idiot.
For how long have anti-feminists been saying that the only reason feminist men are so out-spoken and constantly virtue-signal is because they're losers trying to pander to women in the hopes that they'll get laid? Since forever. A lot of the famous guys getting MeToo'd were very outspoken about such things too, including Harvey Weinstein.
This is the exact same thing only the culture has changed, and now it includes race and tranny stuff.
Lol, I thought most men were progressive and liberal, at least where I live. But anyways, a turnoff, you start talking to me how you love Beyonce and Obama, bye!
they tell you they are because they want you to like them.
I guess they figured it helped them get trump elected. May as well use it to try to get laid, too.
All i can say is, this is why I prefer face to face 😊 cut through the BS 😊
Have sex
Him: I support trump.
Her: Get Out!
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Yes I have, just read about it this morning. Another person posted a link on GaG in his question to the same article.
Yes I now know this! LOL I didn't know at the time of this posting.
actually what you described is actually the same as a "player" and "narcissists'" who do this too
they pretend to be that which they are not, in order to attract women, and they often pretend to be guys who are actually genuine... even try talking similar to guys who are genuine too, this often is why many women become more suspicious about the actual decent guys looking for a serious relationship and not just for a hookup...
and therefore anyone burned by this type will automatically be untrusting and suspicious of those who are actually trying to find someone real
This is nothing new. Men (and women) have consistently lied to each other during dating rituals since dating became mainstream. My wife pretended to be cool while we were dating. She even claimed to like the same music as me, then once we were married, she admitted that she hated the music I liked. Imagine that same scenario about everything else too. Most people are deceptive during dating to make themselves more appealing to the other. People are just shitty.
Yeah I read a paper on it the other day and some of the examples were pretty pathetic. One woman dated a guy and then dumped Him after a year because He didn't acknowledge His privilege. You know if white men are privileged then what on earth does that mean about white women. The last I checked it was men dying in wars, dying in work related accidents, killing themselves at higher numbers, in prison, & live shorter lives on average due to stress. So if Men are so privileged then why do they go through these things in such higher numbers than women?
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