How My Sister Can Convince the Bar Manager?


I had asked this question couple of Months Ago with less details but didn't get Any Solutions, So My Sister was struggling financially for last Some Months, She has some bank loans to repay as well as some other dues, So she was very Stressed... One of My Sister's friend used to work in a strip bar, So My Sister went to her to get some help

My Sister's friend suggested her to work in a strip bar where she used to work,
But My Sister could not read the fine print of the contract properly and by Mistake She signed on a nude contract, Now My sister's manager treats with her very harshly and he don't allow her to wear any panties or thong because My sister has signed strip to nude contract

My Sister Also tried taking to a lawyer but he told her that she will have to give a huge amount of money to bar owner if she breach the contract before one year, it was like a bond that she signed by mistake and Since My Sister lives in Mexico So laws are not heling her too.

It was My Sister's own mistake, She signed on a strip to nude contract because she couldn't read the fine print of the contract, this gave her Manager power over her, So as per the Contract if Bar Manager want then he can strip her naked Infront the Bar Customers, So he is just misusing his Power which he has over My Sister and he don't let her wear any panties or thong during she performs Infront the Bar Customers... Also My Sister's Manager gives only 2-3 Days leave during her periods, He says she can use tampons but he can't allow her wear panty or thong, this All has made My Sister's life more pathetic.

What she she Can do Now? She needs Money to repay her bank loans and other dues but she don't want to Strip fully Naked but Manager don't have any soft corner for My Sister.
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*********** My Sister lives in Mexico and Not In US or UK So Situation are different here than to other places *****************
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  • You need to talk to a lawyer in Mexico. Preferably a lawyer who specializes in contract law and labor law. I would not put too much weight on what that first lawyer said. Dig into it more. This whole things seems pretty fishy to me.

    What does that mean she can't read the fine print? Does it mean she can't, or didn't? If she literally can't read it, or was deceived in any way, it might invalidate the contract. Again you need to talk to a lawyer.

    As someone else mentioned, I see the possibility that she is lying to you.

    Here in the US, we don't normally have employment contracts. I've looked into it in other countries though. They do appear to be binding in the places I've looked at. I'm not sure why being a strip place would make any difference for the contract. Although there may be special laws in effect for that type of work.

    I stress again that you need a lawyer, but I'll bring up a couple of things to think about and ask about. If the contract has a period, like a year, then she might be liable for that year. But it's probably conditional. She is probably only liable for any losses incurred by the employer, AND the employer probably needs to make due effort to find a replacement for her. I'm guessing that finding a replacement would not take long. So any loss would only be for a short period, not the full year of the contract.

    Talk to a lawyer, and ask about the employer's obligation to find a replacement.

    Also watch very closely that the employer is fulfilling their end of the contract also. Keep records of everything in detail. Like hours worked, things the employer says and requires of her - pretty much everything related to this job should be documented. If it goes to court, you want to be organized and able to answer any questions clearly without hesitation.

    Of course if she can't get out of it the legal way, she can just skip out and disappear.

    • I am from Mexico and here situation is diiferent, So she can't Run away easily, I don't think that My Sister is lying to me because i know My Sister well, she is very shy since her childhood, She can't go topless easily let alone striping fully naked... that's why i don't think she willingly signed the nude contract ! she got decieved and got trapped by them, Finding a replacement could be a option and can be setteled down mutually but finding a another Girl who is willing to strip naked in place of My Sister Would Not be that Easy !

    • My guess is that she willingly signed the contract. She might not have read it and didn't know what was in it, but she signed it. That makes it a binding contract. Not reading it is no excuse. That's why you should always read contracts entirely. The contract might not be binding for other reasons though. That's what you need to talk to a lawyer about. Also, your sister's friend who used to work there would have known what was going on. When she first went in the place she should have seen what kind of place it was.

    • I am not saying that they got her sign on Gun Point, My Sister herself signed on the contract papers but she failed to understand what was written on it ! Also My Sister's friend who took her to that Bar probably already knew what they ( Bar Management ) would do with her but My Sister's friend deceived her too, She probably now working as a Agent to hire and trap Innocent Girls who is looking for a Job and Needs Money urgently ! My Sister was under impression that she only has to strip in her undergarments but on First day on the Job when Bar Manager asked her to strip fully naked then she got shocked but it was too late and she was already trapped and very reluctantly she had to strip naked in front Bar Customers and she has to do it for a Year.

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  • Doesn't sound to me like she can do much legally other than work for the year and pay off her debts, you really need to read a contract like that, especially in countries with poor human rights laws. With that said, Mexico has some laws which may help, you could try to invalidate it but I don't know your sister's circumstances and it sounds pretty specific in what applies for invalidation.
    https://mexicolaw. com/LawInfo03. htm#:~:text=Contracts%20are%20a%20fundamental%20means,(goal)%20of%20the%20contract.&text=The%20consent%20was%20not%20given, established%20by%20law%20of%20Mexico.

    With that said, I don't suggest it, but you could try going around the law. If you destroy the signed contract then he can't prove anything. You could also try threatening/blackmailing him but I don't know how dangerous he is.

    I am a firm believer that all humans should have full control over their own body, you can't contractually force someone to do something in my opinion. There is a word for that, it's called indentured servitude, and it's disgusting, it's basically slavery but sounds better because people choose it and you never bring up how almost everyone was fooled/forced into it.

    • @devilman666, It's not very easy to destroy the signed contract because in Mexico Most Casino, Clubs and Bars are Run by Criminals and Mafia, So they are really dangerous and killing someone is not a big deal for them, My Sister did mistake and Now she is trapped, So far i know my sister she has been a shy Girl So striping naked in front people is not a easy job for her... my sister told the Bar Manager that she feels very uncomfortable and she wants to wear her lingerie or Panty during the performance but Bar Manager is not okay with this, he says that she will havre to strip fully naked in front the customers and still if she wear any lingerie or thong then his bouncers will tear it off ! So Now my sister don't have much choices and also she is being forced to shave daily down there.

    • That's kind of what I figured, that's why I mentioned that I don't know how dangerous the guy is so I don't know if it's a good idea. I'm sorry to hear about the situation and I wish you and your sister the best. I'm sorry I couldn't offer better advice. Id suggest looking into contracts and the fine print of this contract, maybe there is a way out, I don't know. If your family has some money to help her out then maybe they could hire a lawyer to take a look at it, but I don't know much about mexican contracts so I don't know if that would be helpful or a waste of money. Sorry.

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  • Money talks. Set up a gofundme account in her name and appeal to people on youtube and facebook by making some videos, though i'd avoid any videos in the bar where she works for both legal and safety reasons. Just be sure she is honest and sincere in the videos. If this doesn't work, she may just have to embrace the change in lifestyle for a year. Encourage her to avoid drugs at all costs, as this would be a way for them to trap her there for life. And there are forms of birth control that can stop the period or make it much shorter. Outside of that, she's lucky to have family who care so much. Make sure she knows she's loved and that no one will think less of her. Its only a year, after all. Lots of women strip and go back to normal life afterwards. Its nothing to be ashamed of.

    • Yup, I don't want to make My Sister feel like more insulted or embarrassed but indeed she did a big mistake by signing on the Contract, They offered her 3x-4x Salary as compared to any ordinary Job, My Sister thought she would be able to repay her all previous bank loans but she didn't realize how difficult would be Stripper Job, My Sister was shy by nature So going Topless in front People or Customer would be difficult for her but here She is bound to strip fully naked ! She regrets a lot for this but Now she is trapped and don't have much options other than taking to Bar Manager or Bar owners but she has very less chance that they would allow her to wear any lingerie or Panties because showing Naked Girls is their business ! Bar Manager is even not okay with her wearing a tiny thong, also She feels lot's of trouble during her periods time, without wearing any panties she can't use Pads and taking medical pills might affect her health.

  • This is a dilemma and your sister seems to be stuck.

    If I was in the shoes if your sister, I would have no choice but to continue working with the aim of to save up a sum to quite the job before the contracts ends. Or if it's a huge sum I will have no option but to continue working till the contract ends.

    How many months your sister has been working in the bar?

    Have she considered working for other jobs as well? To save money and quit the job?

    • @vero4567 It's been 4 Months and still My Sister will have to work for Next 8 Months, My Sister Never had worked before like a Stripper Girl So She still feels very shame and embarrassment when she strips fully naked in front customers, My Sister requested many times to Bar Manager to let her wear any Underwear or Panties but he is Not allowing her ! Worst part is During her periods time Bar manager only give her 2-3 days leave and after that she even can't wear any panties or thong... She use tampons but customers can see her messy vagina which is more embarrassing for her.

    • @Bernardo_ What options does your sister have? Has she discussed this with some she trusts or close to her? Did they gave her any option or advice which is the best for her?

    • My Sister has consulted with 2 different lawyers about her Contract but they both told her that if she quit her Job before One Year then she will have to pay off Money to Bar Owner otherwise she would go to jail, But I already told you My Sister don't have money, She is trying to collect it but it will take time. So My Sister only have two options either she convince Bar Manager or Bar Owner to let her wear any kind of underwear or panties for her dignity but it depends on them, or She may ask to Bar Manager that she would take less salary if he can allow her to wear some clothes instead of striping fully naked, there are some girls in Bar who only perform and strip to topless only but they had not signed Nude contracts like My Sister.

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  • That’s scary tbh I have friends from Mexico n most of the clubs r filled with rich people but like bad kind a lot. His policy seem rlly strict but I can only see if she would quit n if she’s struggling maybe she can sell stuff or work another job. But I don't know she should’ve looked into more carefully.

    • Yup, Here in Mexico clubs and Bars are full of Rich old people who come here to play with naked Poor Girls and they don't have any Mercy for girls ! My Sister should not have thought to be working as a strip dancer but she had thought that she would not strip fully naked but she didn't read the contract carefully and trapped, Now only Bar Manager can give her some relief by allowing her to wear lingerie or panties but Manager is a stubborn and harsh a Guy, he don't want to allow her to wear even a tiny thong also he forced her to shave daily so that customers can see her vagina clearly, This all is very embarrassing and humiliating for My Sister but she don't have much option other than to try to convivence the Bar Manager.

  • She signed a contract, so there’s nothing she can do.

    • I Agree, If you do blunder mistakes then you suffer the consequences, But here My Sister is being treated very harshly by the Bar Manager, My Sister didn't want to strip fully naked So in the beginning she argued a lot with the Manager, Now he is annoyed with My Sister and he don't let her wear any underwear or thong during her Periods as well, So she can't wear any Pad as well, he just give her 2-3 days leaves which is not enough !

    • I use a menstrual cup. Also, your sister shouldn’t have signed the contract. It’s her fault tbh.

    • Yup Menstrual cup is a option but still she needs to wear a panty or thong which her Manager don't allow her.

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  • Even for Mexico this sounds like pure bullshit too me.

  • Unfortunately there's nothing she can do. She signed a contract with is legally binding. The only advice I have is use a menstrual cup when it's that time of them month.🤷‍♀️ Sorry I know its not what you want

    • I know My Sister did a blunder mistake by signing on a nude contract paper, She needed money badly in order to repay her existing bank loans but Now her life has become more miserable than to before, Her Manager force her to shave daily down there and don't let her wear any panty or thong and even during her periods he don't show any Mercy on her.

    • Unfortunately she's stuck for the year

    • Nope, any contract that violates any aspect of the law, it’s called “Voidable Contract”

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  • Thanks for the invite. Though seeing all the comments and opinions I don't know what could I add to this. There are some decent advice here I think, though I'm not an experts in this matter, I don't know any laws in Mexico or how stuff like a strip club works there.
    But I can't really understand what do your sister means by "couldn't read the fine print". Like she couldn't see it properly because it was too small or was it printed in poor quality?

    • The Contract papers were long and was written in difficult legal language, My Sister didn't read all the pages and she didn't read fine prints and she signed on it, She trusted on her friend who took her there to get her this Job So My Sister Got Deceived by her ( them ) and Now she can't do much legally and Those Guys are Dangerous So she can't fight back too ! Now she wants to wear lingerie or panties instead of striping fully naked in front strangers ( Customers ) but Bar Manager is not allowing her.

  • Probably no clause in her contract to shower or smell nice or have fresh breath, or a not have a shaved head, or not be rude to customers, fart.

  • I don't know anything about the laws there so I don't know. Maybe she can look for another lawer. One that's able to give her advice on what to do. If you sign a contract you're stuck to it. I understand the mistake and hope she learns from this. Besides that not going to work might be an option, but I don't know how well that'll go.

    If there is nothing she can do to get away from it, she might as well try to earn some money. Yes it sucks, but that's the only thing she might be able to do. Not knowing everything that's in a contract is never beneficial. After one year leave asap.

    I hope she's doing fine and wish her the best of luck

    • I Don't think My Sister can do anything to get away specially if she don't have Money and still she is paying for her previous bank loans, Bar Management and Bar owner won't leave her too until she completes a Year, My Sister was quite shy and she feels uncomfortable striping fully naked, She can do Topless but she wants to wear some lingerie which Bar Manager don't want to allow her, Apart from that She face lot's of issue during her periods time when her Manager don't give her enough leaves and he don't allow her to wear any panty or underwear during her periods as well So she can't use Pads and using tampons is not comfortable.

    • Yeah that really sucks. Hope the year is gonna be over soon. She better learn from this

  • I'm really sorry for you and your sister but as you mentioned she signed herself though not reading terms and conditions properly so she's bound for a year. And I don't think so she can do anything else but strip show as per conditions.

    • Yeah, I know if My Sister Can't pay Money then she will have to strip nude for a Year in order to complete the Contract but here Problem is with her Manager, My Sister's Manager is very harsh Guy, he is not giving enough leaves during her periods also he don't allow her to wear any panty or thong So she can't even use Pads during her periods So this all making My Sister's life pathetic and Miserable.

    • She can use tampons or menstrual cups at that time. Hopefully it helps.

    • Else she has to take pills to control her periods and that's not a good option.

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  • Well, i can't think of any reason good enough to put any tattos on that area, i wouldn't but thats, of course, a different circumstance. I wish Id catch some guy doing a female like that, no, I dont believe thats true. If I were in that situstion Id think it over very well, but thats understood.. I would go to a priest if I were a Catholic, explain her situation and they can't tell that she told them, ask him if there's a way to help her, explain to him every aspect very honestly, they could very well help her, thats one thing they must consider, helping, but shed probably have to make some serious promises. I dont believe your sister has anything to loose by doing this, but its nothing to play with, a church, which Im sure she knows. If the priest has any belief in his chosen work or any compassion at all, he will make an effort. Remember to remind to emphacise secrency to keep her from retribution. I am sorry that I can't give better advice, but this is the only advice I can give, good luck

    • I also don't think that having a tattoos on that area is a good option but you know what? Most people come to see naked girls and those Guys like to see in between her legs which makes her feel very insulted and offended, in this situation a tattoo might give her some relief but Again she needs a prior permission from the Bar Manager, if customer can't see her vagina then he might turn it down because this is their Business !

  • It’s not legally binding.

    • I am from Mexico and As per there laws and Contract, either My Sister will work as a strip dancer for a Year or if she quit the Job then she will have to pay a huge amount of money to bar owner... otherwise she would ended up in Jail.

    • Is that what the poor darling thinks lol ohh, I’m from Australia and have studied certain laws in Mexico for a high school assignment and even 12 years ago contracts like that weren’t actually legally binding, mind you the amount of corruption that goes on over there is just pathetic so it wouldn’t surprise me if she’s gotten herself into a bit of a jam anyway...

  • Depends on what country this is in. What's the length of the contract and how far into it is she? That's a sad lesson in why you should always read the fine print.
    She's an employee not a slave, she has to have some rights.

    • My Sister is from Mexico and the contract is for one Year, At the time when My sister signed the Contract she thought that she had to strip to bikini ( undergarments ) only, but Since she could not read fine prints and could not understand it Now she has been trapped and She is being forced to strip fully naked in front the customers, My sister is requesting to Bar Managment to allow her to wear lingerie or thong but Bar Manager don't want to allow her.

  • so I have no idea about Mexico law etc but if I were me I would just stop going there

    • I didn't even know Mexico had any laws.


  • Here’s a true story,


    A man walks into the police statement and complains to an officer about a client signed a contract to give him $15,000 for Kilo of Cocaine. This person already gave the Cocaine but never got paid.


    The officer quickly asked the mad to write a police report and sign it. After he signed it, he was placed under arrest, and also arrested the client.


    Even under arrest, he asked the officer, “where’s my money?”


    What the asshole didn’t know, any contract which breaches the law, isn’t a legal contract. It’s called a “Voidable Contract”.


    There’s nothing anyone can make you do. The only thing the manager can do is take her to court which he probably won’t have any recourse because, it violates slavery laws. Even bonded servitude is considered slavery. It cannot violate any aspects of the law.


    Just move on and if they want to take you to court then let them. Don’t be afraid.

    There’s not contract that allows slavery. Any contract which breaks the law is called a “Voidable Contract”.

  • Look... there’s nothing wrong with being naked. She didn’t read the fine print so that’s that. Deal with it a year make some good cash and don’t go back. She’ll live

    • Yup, You are Right, Many Girls willingly take up striping job to make good Money and they don't hesitate to being naked but here My Sister's case is different... My Sister also needed money but she wanted to strip to bikini only but by mistake she signed on a wrong contract and Now she is bound to strip naked, She is not comfortable and wants from Bar Management to let her wear bra & panty or at least any lingerie but Bar Manager is a stubborn and Rude Guy, he is not allowing My Sister to wear anything and he strips her fully naked in front customers, Also she feels lots of issue during her periods time when her Manager barely gives her 2-3 days leaves only ! I also tried to talk to him but he didn't listen My request as well.

    • He don’t have to. I don’t know the law of Mexico but in the states that’s illegal. However I know a contract a contract. She should have read the contract before signing. Sucks for her but she’ll survive. A few weeks and the embarrassment will either go away or it won’t in which case it’s gonna be a hard contract. But that’s just how it is.

  • I've GOT THE ANSWER!!!

    SHE should go get some panties tattooed on her! BOOM ! IM GOING TO NEED A BONUS 😉. ALRIGHT THATS LUNCH 😁😷♋

    • You mean she can get tattooed on her that looks like panties? but still customers can see what she wants to hide, I mean from the front they can still see her vagina.

    • Not if it's a damn good tattoo. And your panties or thong show the same thing.

    • I don't understand the delima I got yo all nude strip clubs. The panties aren't hiding much

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  • Sheesh this is a tough situation mate.. I live in Australia so likely very different laws in comparison. This might sound weird but what if your sister peed her pants while working there then approached bar manager and tell him its a condition that can happen uncontrollably any time? He then might reconsider. I don't know what to suggest..

    • Hmm….. peeing in pants sounds disgusting though ! I am not sure how bar manager would respond on this, People from Bar Management are very harsh and brutal with the Stripper Girls, they know girls make lot's of excuse So they treat girls quite Roughly ( Mercilessly), My Sister's Manager strips her fully naked all the time and don't let her wear even a thing thong ! My Sister Requested him many times but he don't care and She suffers a lot during her period time when he don't give her more than 2-3 days leave and after that he still don't allow her to wear any panties or lingerie So she can't use Pads as well and she use tampons instead.

    • I know it's disgusting and if the manager knows they will make any excuse he might not buy it anyway. Does she have access to find the original contract? Perhaps if her and a few of the girls distract him and one gets the contracts they could burn them so there is no longer a legal contract that exists?

    • you know what? Bar Manager is just a employee like my Sister, there are many people in Bar Management and Bar owners are themselves Criminals and Mafia... So a ordinary girl can't have access to the original contracts, Also Since my sister had argued with Bar Manager a lot So now he is quite annoyed with her, if she don't strip naked or don't take her panties off then her Manager asks the Bouncers to rip her panties off and get her fully naked.

  • What country? In America, there are no contracts.. and strip clubs have incredibly high turnover.. Girls tend to last less than a month on average, and then go to the next thing. No employment contract - especially signed with a strip club, would be very enforceable. This sounds laughable to someone like me who knows strip clubs very well.

    • It's Not US, I am from Mexico and here Situations are Worse than Worst ! Corrupt Government, Smugglers and Drug Mafia are Running the Whole Country, My Sister works in that Place which is also run by criminals... So there is No easy Escape, They can even rape and shoot her ! Many Girls get killed every Month and there is No Media or NGO raise up the voices.

    • There's no shortage of friendly villages in the south, you should take her and move away, run. Also coastal cities are less lawless. Most of the crime I'm aware of is in the north. There's also plenty of shelters and groups that are organizing against the violence and mayhem.. you could seek shelter with them and join their cause (s). Look outward and get away from the local situation.

  • Keep in mind that practicing law as a profession is a business and lawyers, prosecutors, judges, and such are managing their affairs of that business with the same cost vs. potential gains methodology that any successful financial enterprise does, stacking the deck of netaphorical cards too their advantage when playing the odds. I never went too law school, but when in court, rough and I play too win. Using my influential spin doctor's methodology, as an old add man and commercial artists, I am very good at identifying and expmoiting a legal opponent's attempts at tarnishing my reputation and building a case of damaged credibility by calling such tactics as what they are intended. Deception and misdirection too prove a point and win a case with well constructed lies and deceit. You said it yourself. Small print, fooled into believing one thing while signing something invisible and obscured from obvious scrutiny. Almost everyone will tell you I'm full of shit, but they can't prove it in open forum by honest means. I cannot pass the bar exam, but can make a laphing stock of those who can by using historical parameters of law established by founding fathers before modern legal system distorts everything. That original framework still in effect, without presedent of modern legal trickery too change or erase it. Old law interpreted by history enthusiast trumps modern law firms. My legal victoies are proof, when latching onto discrepancies imposed on me like a pitbull enraged. You have motive too decieve, premeditated misdirection of legal small print and implied intent at fair treatment in regulated workplace atmosphere by protections guaranteed under the equal opportunity labor act and a citizen's right to work legislation intended too investigate and prosecute cases like the one you just described. Thevlaw iscon your side, even though the system is not. The question is, how badly do you want justice for your family?

  • If this bar manager can trick your sister so easily, I'm sure he has way more tricks up his sleeve. You'd better watch out or she's gonna be strung out on heroin and doing way more than just stripping before the year is out.

    This is why women shouldn't even be allowed to sign contracts without a male family member present. Letting women sign their own contracts is like letting a little kid sign a contract by themselves.

    • Bar Manager is just a employee and there are many people in Bar Management, they always look for a Girl that can be trapped easily, My Sister did biggest mistake of her life, She was naïve and in dire need of money and she signed on a wrong contract, Now they don't want to leave her until she completes one year, My sister talked to Bar Manager and requested him to let her wear lingerie or panties when she perform in front customers but he refused, Still if my sister try to wear panty or thong then Bar Manager ask his bouncers to tear her panty off and don't allow her, So She feels quite helpless in this situation.

    • Best case scenario is that she learns her lesson and brings an adult with her in future contract negotiations. And a magnifying glass.

  • Well legally she can't do anything according to our friends here... tell me one thing does contract only refer to her manger's authority or power to just strip her naked and nothing else?

    • I didn't understand your question?

    • As per the terms of the Contract, My Sister's Manager has Power over her and if he want then he can ask her to strip fully naked anytime and she can't refuse him.

    • Well man I got my answer.. I guess you mean he can just tell her to strip anytime in club but don't have any other authority... right?

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