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Love that story. Thank you so much for sharing 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Take into account some women does not have a significant other, would it be best for that women to choose to live a kidless life?
Of course. That is why it is selfish. "I have to have what I want" no matter the consequences to everyone. Me, me, me.
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🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 Awesome girl. 😘😘
Thanks for the feedback. always great to hear from you. It's definitely an option.. I wonder if guys can do the same thing. Find a woman to carry their sperm
It's always a pleasure to answer your questions :)
Thank you for the feedback. I wish you the best in finding what you desire.
Totally understand that. Very difficult to find a great man to raise a kid with.. I totally respect that decision.
In this case, by "donor", what do you mean? Someone who she knew, or going to a sperm bank? Just curious.
The donor was through a clinic or sperm bank as you put it, she knows he is Dutch and of good stock and not some sweaty chav in a matching shell suit.
Ah OK! Well there are women who use sperm banks. That's why they have them... LOL
Can you please expand on the topic irreparable harm with your thoughts to why that is, not nessesrly research driven, just thoughts on why the damage you propose.
I want to be a single mom by choice. How would I know which method is best for me? ↗
Asked for your feedback. But thank you for the feedback have a great day
My answer was in there and I explained why I don't recommend it. And then the thread got crazy.
What a condensing post.
Why is that condescending? So she wants to be mother by choice but want us tax payers to pay for it?
It is a statement that shows a predetermined perception of people and implies that through this statement. If you have a money question (which is not apart of the topic at hand) a non-preconceived way to approach it would be to ask what would be the financial situation of the women who are choosing to be a single mother by choice then determine the appropriate statement with facts or an opinion based on one's upbringing/values.
Why would I need to ask that way seems like it's wasting slit of time when I can verify it in my a swer
Not really wasting time. It's called getting to know and understand someone. "What would uour financial status be if you went that route?" Or "Would you be financially prepared?" Anyway yea. Ok have a great one thanks for the response
"statement that shows a predetermined perception of people "It doesn't show any predetermined perception at all, it is valid concern. It seems to me few simply disliked the comment. If their is discussion about wanting to be a single mum, then this is very legitimate view point. It would make no sense try ask about financial situation. The assertion simply was as long as these women are not immediate burden on society it doesn't matter.
Oram52 it does show a predetermined perception. At the very less it is insinuating and insulting comment to make... If you can read that and understand that. I don't know oh well. Language matters.
Also I never said it wasn't a valid question or concern to have. Money is a top factor when preparing for a child
How would you distinguish between predetermined perception and a comment someone disliked? Now single mothers on welfare is a political issue, and it may not be as common some might portray it to be. However it context of someone desiring a kid it is reasonable to assert. Look if you're not dependent on others, if you wouln't require welfare then it is non-issue, as it doesn't impact anyone else. eive a child through sperm donor. No where it was asserted as not all single mothers are automatically assumed to be on welfare, and no where it is assumed conceiving through sperm donors automatically implies welfare. For it to be presumptuous there has to be connection. So why would you say the comment was 'predetermined perception' and not because you disliked the comment so you automatically assumed comment to be a blank statement, negatively connecting anyone conceiving through sperm donor to be dependent on welfare?I don't see how this comment was 'predetermined perception' - predetermined perception would require blank statement and assumption single mothers leaching of welfare to be norm. It was legitimate comment highlighting if you wouln't be dependent on welfare no one cares and shouldn't matter, as it has no impact on others.
well a disliked comment is subjective and a having a perception that is is predetermined is having to early of a picture/awareness of a person. Hence his statement of that bypasses all courtesy is getting to know someone and skips to welfare. Language matters, how you communicate matters."Now single mothers on welfare is a political issue" not really its a personal choice to do with one's body. This im not from a country where the gov. can dictate my body. Though they try... It's a very fine line.His whole statement talked of and insinuated that there are mothers choosing to be single mothers on welfare. That's why the tax portion is in this comment. If he wasn't assuming welfare and taxes. It would have read "sure as long as you can afford it" not to bad and more reasonable.Having a perception and disliking a comment are two different things. Liking a comment is subjective and having an already formed perception is just 'jumping the gun' before getting to know someone. So I dont know what your askingSo you automatically assumed comment to be a blank statement, negatively connecting anyone conceiving through sperm donor to be dependent on welfare? - I didn't assume that. I would say his statements made it it clear that he definitely thought that to some degree some women might be single mothers by choice and on welfare... And I assume you meant blanket statement. - its not really a concern for for anyone. Finance wise it really only a concern for the mother to deal with and anything else is just prying. Anyways this is not a political post.
Yes but the issue is when something is discussed in this format there is no way to get to know someone first. There are different perspectives on issues, and he raised the issue of not having to rely on tax payers, which you found condescending. Maybe even if the way the comment was directed it still doesn't negate that important aspect, you're saying he could've been more polite or not be presumptuous in that not assuming that you're someone who'd automatically end up on welfare. That is fair comment & you're also saying it was unnecessary. Even if you are 100% correct welfare aspect is still important in this context. Though I presume if someone wants to become mother through sperm donor there would be some background checks including if they can financially support a child.""Now single mothers on welfare is a political issue" not really its a personal choice to do with one's body. This im not from a country where the gov. can dictate my body. Though they try... It's a very fine line."Nope, it is *VERY* political issue then, you are correct you have 100% autonomy over your body, but no one is entitled to welfare. No one is entitled to someone else's private property. The purpose of welfare is helping people in need. It has no correlation with personal choice as money received through welfare does not belong to recipient. Its not to say I want to stigmatize someone on welfare we can all end up there.
"His whole statement talked of and insinuated that there are mothers choosing to be single mothers on welfare."It may not be the norm but there are still considerable amount of women stuck on welfare because of their own bad choices. Choices where they don't even know who the father is. So yes in that case they are dependent on welfare, there are some women who are single mothers choose to be on welfare. That's why this argument exists, no one is entitled to other people's private property paid via taxes. Again I don't want to stigmatize anyone, and we don't know what might've led them to seek welfare. However it doesn't mean women leaching of welfare don't exist, otherwise it wouldn't be an issue."its not really a concern for for anyone. Finance wise it really only a concern for the mother to deal with and anything else is just prying. "It she will be planning on relying on welfare then absolutely it is everyone's concern as everyone else would be paying for it.I am curious how would you have worded the comment that has started this discussion.
We are going to have to agreeing that we disagree... Women have been told by the government what they can do with their body. So much so they have sterilized women of color in lower SES... Anyway. I don't want to continue this conversation or keep reading what was posted. Simply because if I wanted to talk about money and politics I would have directed my question that way...Although this post is open to both genders its really just a question for targeted for women. But thanks for your input. Have a good one.
Lol go. spread yo seed
Yes mam!!! *salutes obediently* 😎😂😂
Lol 😅😅😅 welp get to spreading. Ain't gonna fertilize its self
Don’t wait too much longer, 50 seems to be the cut-off age.
@Boromir lol men can have kids as old as 75.
@COMMODOREII LOL read the articles on the medical websites :-)
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So many kids out their have issues bc they didn't have a dad or mom vice versa, both parents is ideal
If you take into account some women do not have a significant other, would it be best for that women to choose to live a kidless life? Since she cannot fulfill her desire to birth her own child.
Yeah, get married or have a partner if you wanna have kids, don't give them a confused life bc you were selfish
Take marriage and a partner out of the picture. What would you do? Kidless or birth your own child? This question is referring to single women with audience of older 30 plus
Go kidless, it's the selfless route
Ahh interesting. I posted a question and took a poll. Some people thought living a kidless life was selfish. Interesting. I will have to combine the question. Thank you for your feedback.
And there are so many fucked up people put there that grew up in 2 parent households. So that logic is flawed. Calling someone selfish because they choose a different path is fucking stupid.
@CHARismatic110 Bitch, fuck off this isn't your convo
Im gathering thoughts. I have already read articles, researched, and watched documentaries. If you have any thoughts on the subject please share. Thanks for the tip.