Is this considered sexual assault?

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SuccessfulHornDog · Accepted Answer

Men are held accountable for all of their actions while drinking
Women are being treated as though they are just victims who aren't held responsible for their actions while drinking

I dont support rape in any way but any law that takes away responsibility from one gender and not the other is wrong and needs to be changed.

We as a society expect that everyone who is drunk to still be able to make wise choices about driving. Unless the man drugs her she needs to be held to the same standard

venomhbk1313 · Accepted Answer

This is sexual assault because you took advantage of her in a drunken state and she was helpless in that condition as far as I'm concerned he needs to go to jail

VIVANT · Accepted Answer

No. He was a dick but She welcomes him every step of the way already knowing she didn’t like him.

luckily there was no rape... She really needs help bc she’s going to get herself into trouble just Saying yes to everyone.

he needs help bc he has absolutely no handle on boundaries And he’s going to get himself And others in trouble.

both of them need help.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Yes, she was drunk and there was also coercion there, both of which legally prevent someone from consenting

MrOracle · Answer

Yes, that is sexual assault. And, sadly, that person is disturbed and, as is common with predators, knows exactly how to zero in on and control girls with depression and low self-esteem. From the predator's point of view, such people make excellent victims - they're more likely to allow themselves to be pressured into getting into bad situations, they're less likely to resist unwanted physical assaults, and less likely to report the incident to authorities.

I guess the good news here is that the assault was somewhat limited and didn't end up in rape - thankfully! - but of course it's still a traumatic assault on a person who was already struggling mentally. That's awful.

You can't turn back the clock on something like this, but going forward, some strong, loud "no's" at the beginning would likely have shut this guy down and gotten him to go away. Once he's got her drinking, it's already too late - she's going to be vulnerable, which of course is exactly why he did that.

I'm not sure there's much that can be done about him at this point (I don't know when this assault occurred, but I assume it wasn't yesterday) - ideally you'd want to report something like that immediately, while wounds and bruises and scratches were still fresh. Without substantial evidence, the DA won't prosecute, and time works against the victim there. Still, it's worth reporting it for no other reason than it leaves a paper trail on the guy. When he does it again - and he will - at least there will be evidence of a pattern of behavior, and that will make it much more difficult for him to deny his intentions or make it seem like just a misunderstanding. It might not help this girl, but it could help the next one a lot.

1Sophisticatedme · Answer

First let me say, i am very glad you are ok and away from this person. You have survive a trauma of being harassed by your own will and that's not acceptable in my eyes, whether you concented or not both needs to be respected no matter what. Sorry to hear that you are struggling with adjusting to your surroundings of your new environment as you go through school; its never easy to transfer from one place and another, let alone you have zero support as when you were near your family... that's a huge adjustment. Sometimes when we are in a different country, place, and we aren't familiar we tend to want somehow have someone to give us that safety connection and support we want fast bc we have no support from our families as they are far away. The depression and anxiety do get in the way, and sometimes when we are in so much pressure we get scared of our own shadows, and we are so brittle that anyone that makes us feel uncomfortable and have a negative impacted in us or has a temper, we tend to not want to say anything bad at the moment bc we feel threaten as we are extremely vulnerable as we are alone and without anyone to support us, and if you had said anything, its more anxiety added bc you never know what the other person's intentions would be if you had said at the present moment, and for that other person to force himself unto you its not ok by hurting you and causing bodily physical abuse to your skin. It's not your fault, you had no choice but to protect yourself so you wouldn't have to endure further harm that this person would off done if you went against his wishes as he was angry before he got drunk, and worse when he did get drunk. I would only recommend that you go to the authorities police and report this incident, whether they believe you or not at least its recorded and filed and its proof saying that he did this to you by bullying you bc you are vulnerable on your own and he knows you are alone and have no one to support you. I would also ask for a restraint order to make sure he isn't coming around you for your safety.
Becareful where ever you go, if you are very depressed and lonely write it in a journal but never ever let others know you are lonely, and depressed as they will look at you as a weak person and take advantage of you. A man and woman should both be in an agreement to do physical touching, not one forces themselves unto the other, and with threats thats going against your wishes of being touch you didn't say no bc its frighten, and you needed to be safe so no was not an option he allowed you to say bc of his anger attitude. Woman do thesame to to some man and we don't hear it much, but i known man that had been in those situations too and its very hard to listen of them being verbally abused by their partners or strangers too.
So you were sexually abused, threatened against your will by not being allowed to saying no, and physical abuse as he made a mark on you around your neck causing the skin to teare and sore.
Keep safe, stay away from him and don't let anyone know you are depressed, lonely, and home sick as others would be judging you and taking advantage of you. Phone or text your family and friends back home, and tell them how much you want to go home, how you miss them, those are the people you can trust in saying how depressed you been ever since you got there. The world is evil, and you can't really trust anyone anymore, so you can trust only yourself and no one else. You are there to study and just do that, and friends come and go but you just need to concentrate on get your education so you can get a great job at the end, then you can get good friends. Report your incident to police, anything happens to you agsin with this man, then the police will already see the file that a complaint was made against this man.
Hugsxxx.

ChocoBrownieMonster · Answer

Sorry your messages to me in PM went to my 'other messages' area because we didn't add each other so i didn't see them until now.
This is a rather grey area, you can't say it's sexual assault because you chose to drink and you should be glad he didn't rape you. It's more that he is a shitty character, a predator and knew he could take advantage of you. You couldve said no to going out with him or just continued to ignore his messages.

Avicenna · Answer

Yeah

Neko911 · Answer

Yes, but sexual assualt she allowed to happen

worldscolide · Answer

Its assault, not sexual assault.. But both parties are a bit responsible here.. The man for the assault, and the woman for being irresponsible for her drinking.. All it takes is a simple no, and to walk away..