Guys, Are submissive women who say they're feminist a joke?

[Anonymous]

I've met a topic about sub men being a big joke. Now it's the turn of "feminist" sub women.

So what is the definition of feminism?
Feminism is a range of social movements, political movements, and ideologies that aim to define, establish, and achieve the political, economic, personal, and social equality of the sexes.

How are women perceive in society nowadays?
Women are commonly considered as weak, sex objects and subservient to men.

What is maledom?
A relationship in which the male is the dominant partner sexually or otherwise. The male is also the top in bdsm play or whereas the female takes the submissive role and is the bottom.

How is that different from the "real world"?
Probably because the women involved consent to it.

How is that feminist?
In my view, it's not. Women simply use feminism to justify these practices:"yes, I'm submissive to men but I choose to do it. Anyway, I'm feminist so..."
Lol this doesn't excuse anything. Simply admit you've been brainwashed good and do not want to oppose today's ideology. If anything, sub women validate to the finest the idea women are inferior to men. Why do men love maledom and sub women so much? Oh c'mon! Let's be honest about it. Whether you agree or disagree with feminist ideology, there's no way sub women and maledom is challenging society hierarchy stating that men are above women. Is it true or false? It's not the problem here and I don't want to debate on this. My question is: are sub women and maledom challenging men supremacy over women? If so, how?

[Berethor]

I also think that it's joke but I also believe that it's natural for women to be submissive. :)

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MenAreTough

[iambae]

Agreed

[Asker]

@iambae This is what most sub women say... So basically, feminism is just an excuse for this pathetic girls lol.

[Berethor]

What is more feminist than cling to a man's leg and submit to his man's whip? :)

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LegCling

tvtropes.org/.../RomanticizedAbuse

[Asker]

That's the opposite of feminism lol.

[NamerOfStars]

Not at all. You don't control what arouses you, and a little (or a lot of, frankly) playing around in the bedroom isn't the same as making big, sweeping sociopolitical changes.

[Asker]

Based on how common it is now: The research also suggested that of those who had experienced slapping, choking, gagging or spitting during consensual sex, 42% felt pressured, coerced or forced into it. No it's much more than that.

[iambae]

No the ones who are a joke are the feminist. There's are natural and spiritual laws that these feminist try to remove but can't it usually ends up with them dying alone or diking it up. In the end they get their comeuppance.

[Asker]

It wasn't the point.

[Anonymous]

Women who choose a traditional lifestyle say they are constantly shamed and berated by feminists for doing what they want to do, and you are proof that they are not lying.

Well done. You've just underscored exactly why no one respects feminism anymore.

[Asker]

I'm not a feminist. And yes, women who want to be submissive are despicable.

[Opinion Owner]

You're a feminist whether you realize it or not. You're the on who is despicable for judging the choices of people who are different than you are. People like you disgust me.

[Asker]

I'm not So do I dear 😉

[Opinion Owner]

I can certainly understand why you would be too ashamed to admit you're a feminist, but you are one, by definition, whether you like it or not.

[Asker]

I'm not. I'm anti-men. Many feminists aren't. Also, I'm anti-sub women who pretend to be feminists. But feminism is dead. I disagree with how they consider every woman deserves respect.

[Opinion Owner]

You are anti-men. You are against, and very judgmental of, women who prefer to be submissive. You are soooooooooooooooooooooooo a feminist. LMAO!

[Asker]

I'm not I don't like feminism

[Asker]

But I do despise these women yes. Though I think they should get what they want 😉.

[Opinion Owner]

It doesn't matter whether you like feminism. You are one whether you like it or not. You are one fucked up person.

[Asker]

No, you're just labeling me cause it's easier for you lol. Poor little'boi.

[Opinion Owner]

The label doesn't matter. What matters is your views and beliefs, which as you have already said are anti-male and anti-women to don't conform to the modern feminist ideology that women should never be submissive. That puts you in the same ideological bucket as modern feminists. I don't give a fuck what you call yourself, you are a feminist at your core. A rose by any other name is still a rose. Or in your case, a fresh pile of shit.

[Asker]

Do you know what's called "sex-positive feminism"?

[Berethor]

Being anti-men and anti all women who don't agree with you ( most women) is a very feminist mindset, you sound like a straw feminist AKA radfem. Yes a sex-positive feminism is a thing, but most feminists are not sex-positive, angry and bitter feminists are the most well known feminists. :)

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StrawFeminist

[Asker]

@Berethor I'm not. I'm not against these women at all. Please, make them exist 🙏🏻

[Asker]

I bet you love sub women by the way 😉

[Berethor]

I like traditional women and I think that women nowadays are not sub enough, that said I don't have problem with tomboys, but when a woman think that she can be stronger than a man, I find it silly. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGzudKBHR2w

[Asker]

@Berethor so basically, you don't like sub men but you like sub women? You're very sexist with very disgusting opinions about women. You're a big sexist 2.0.

[Berethor]

Yes basically, sub men are the ones that I don't like, they are not real men in my book. :)

[Opinion Owner]

@Asker - you have admitted you are anti-men, and yet you are complaining here about @Berethor being "sexist with very disgusting opinions about women"? You are such a moron.

[Asker]

Yes. I admit what I am. He doesn't.

[Berethor]

You don't admit that you are misandrist feminist, and I said that I am okay with tomboys. :)

tvtropes.org/.../TomboyAndGirlyGirl

[Opinion Owner]

So you admit you are a sexist piece of shit yet you are here complaining about someone else being sexist. OK

[Asker]

Obviously!

[Opinion Owner]

Well, at least you are self-aware enough to know what you are. That's your first step. Now the challenge for you is to become a better person.

[Asker]

No, I'm good.

[Opinion Owner]

It's a shame you have such low standards for yourself.

[Asker]

I don't. Quite the contrary.

[Opinion Owner]

You're admitted to being a sexist piece of shit. You call that high personal standards? Yikes!

[Asker]

I'm not just that contrary to almost all men here lol.

[Opinion Owner]

What?

[Asker]

You're slow lol...

[Opinion Owner]

What you wrote there makes no sense. You're the one who is slow if you don;t realize your mistake. Is English your second language or what?

[Asker]

Slow slow slow 😌

[Opinion Owner]

Are you really so dumb as to not see what was wrong with what you wrote? LMAO You're either not very bright or not very honest.

[Asker]

You're very boooooooring 😌

[Opinion Owner]

You're very stooooooooopid.

[Asker]

Why can't you stop talking to me then? 😉