Do some women still value alpha males instead of the beta style being pushed?

[ThomasTKay]

It seems that men who are still masculine and not beta are looked down on in today’s society as “toxic.”

In wanting a guy, do some women still value a guy with some or all of the following traits... Respectfully speaks his mind, opens the door for a woman, takes control sexually, wants to have natural sex the normal (non porn) like ways, is protective but not controlling of her, is looking for marriage, knows how to get his hands dirty, likes guns, knows how to survive, more traditional, can be tough when called for, etc.

[Effably]

I maintain that asking for your self-inserted supposedly positive traits to be validated by strangers when compard to your imagined negatively portrayed counterpart is probably the least "alpha" thing you could do.

What happened to just admitting that you look sex a bit vanilla but you'll still be assertive? Chin up mate. Be confident.

[ThomasTKay]

I’m not looking for acceptance or validation. I don’t apologize for being alpha. I’m simply trying to see who is still what and where women fall in terms of their own desires for a man in their life.

[Effably]

Okay. I'll consider the reply weak. The liking a critical opinion was pretty chad of you though. Good luck!

[Dargil]

There are already two loosely defined countries here. One are the coastal elites, big city dwellers, government employees and professional classes. They favor beta men and revile "toxic masculinity". Then there is "flyover country". Agricultural and industrial. Listen to Country and Classic Rock. They still prefer alpha men. That's why the Billionaire Real Estate Developer is popular among them.

[ThomasTKay]

The two mindsets seem irreconcilable at this point. This is why it seems that the US is so close to civil war. They can’t live intermingled because one is 180 diabolically opposite the other. The inner city mentality seems to want to topple the rural mentality.

[Dargil]

If you want a little feeding, read Kurt Schlichter's 5 Kelly Turnbull novels. He keeps saying its not coming, but it is.

[Dargil]

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[Anonymous]

I can’t take anyone seriously when they use these terms. It’s all just silly.


There’s someone out there for everyone, though.


My ideal man does not own guns. All I ask from him is that he respects me and other people. I want someone who’s compassionate. Being vegan is hot AF.

[ThomasTKay]

Let’s say he is great in every way but owns guns. Why stand in the way of something he enjoys or feels is important? It’s not as silly as you think. There seems to be a systematic effort in society to deny males of their natural traits from boyhood on. A guy can still be tough, protecting, own guns, have a diesel truck, take charge, all while still being respecting of you as well as compassionate to all.

[Opinion Owner]

My boyfriend technically owns a firearm. It doesn’t stop me from loving him, but I’m happy it isn’t stored in his apartment. When we move in together, I don’t want to have the gun in our house. I’m European, so the gun culture here is very different. Also, having a diesel truck isn’t a “natural trait”, lol. All men are different, and wonderful in their own way.

[ThomasTKay]

The term “gun culture” is what’s silly. It’s meant to scare and give a negative connotation as if to sound like “drug” or “rape” culture. In America people value firearms not because we love to shoot each other up, but because we value life and liberty. A gun is a tool to preserve ourselves and way of life. Enough Americans still understand a few facts from history that it was people having firearms that helped us remove the British, and firearms today stop rapes, murders, theft, as well as ensure our country isn’t invaded. History also teaches us that government cannot be trusted to be the only ones with the guns. Europeans of all people should know this from WW2 but it has been forgotten or not taught. A gun in your home won’t hurt you. It’s just an object. Have him take you shooting it until you become 100% proficient at knowing how it works. You might have a lot of fun on a date doing it :) You can learn how to use it safely to protect yourself and you can also learn to not be fearful of it. Being European doesn’t exclude you from realizing your rights to defend yourself and to keep/bear arms.

[hopegirly]

It is a good question. Yes there are some women who value alpha males, I am one of them and in my view it does not exist “toxic masculinity” but “toxic behaviours” that man and woman can act with toxicity!

[ThomasTKay]

Well put. It’s not a blanket “bad” in general behavior. Some people rather just aren’t good people. And glad to know you still like alpha men :)

[hopegirly]

Yeah exactly ☺️

[Barbaric]

Just stop listening to women online. Half of them don't know what they want, and the other half are dorky, socially awkward weirdos. Especially here. In "real life", normal women still prefer men who act like men.

[Billlewis]

I think they definitely prefer an alpha male for sexual intimacy, and perhaps some women like to have a relationship with a beta male wimp, to get their bills and their dates with their alpha males paid for, as well.

[HungLikeAHorsefly]

I think if you look at what people mean when they talk about "toxic" masculinity, it doesn't preclude what most of us think of as Alpha Male behavior. Rather, it's more beta than anything.

[WowwGirl]

I love them

[ThomasTKay]

Thank you :)

[WowwGirl]

Course

[Anonymous]

Today's women want it both ways. They are attracted to and want a man with alpha qualities but they don't want him to act like an alpha in the relationship.