In order to get a woman to have sex, do you have to convince her you don't want it?

[RingOfFire]

One of the biggest ironies I've found in my dating life is that the challenge when you are dating, if you want to have sex with her, is to convince her you don't want sex. I've never quite been able to figure out whether its because she is looking to see if you respect her for something besides sex, or there is some other explanation. But my experience has been that the moment you convince her you're not in it for sex, she wants to have sex.

I don't think guys are the same. I mean in order for her to get sex with me, she doesn't need to convince me she doesn't want it. Even thinking that kind of makes me laugh. Females of the human species control sex. Guys want it all the time. Girls control when it's going to happen. It's their source of power and they use it with impunity to get what they want.

There is a basic concept in negotiating that the party who wants something the least has the most power because the other party is more willing to do whatever they have to to get what they want. Women use sex as their bargaining chip.

Withholding sex is the female equivalent of rape. Only they don't get arrested for it.

[normalice]

It is a woman's instinct to only sleep with guys who will stay around to help take care of the baby. And if all the guy wanted was sex there is no incentive after she is already pregnant. So, the women who survived throughout human history are the women who developed the instinct to first determine whether or not a guy is a capable and dutiful provider. What women have not developed an instinct for is how to make that determination in the modern world plus the understanding that a "provider" is no longer as necissary hasn't had time to muddy said insrincts. And thus it seems like guys who just act like the don't want sex are the ones who get it, but there is much more to it than that.

[RingOfFire]

Agree with all of it except "the understanding that a "provider" is no longer as necissary." A males role as protector and provider for a family is no less necessary than it has been for the millions of years of human evolution. The difference now is not that men no longer need to fulfill these roles, it's that they are not fulfilling these roles as well as they need to. That is the cause behind many of the ills in human civilization today. Men have become emasculated and feminized by a social cancer coming from the sex confused left.

[normalice]

It is much easier to survive as a single mother than it was when tiger attacks were a common threat.

[btbc92]

This is highly disgusting and a very poor Outlook of how God had made InDesign set. A woman does not only sucks. You have sex because you love and desire to be with a person. You don't have sex to use people. Women who withhold sex is within her right to withhold. If she has a reason to withhold that you need to respect it and you need to honor it. A woman wants to be loved. A woman wants to be Vol. A woman wants to be really cherished. If it's too hard for you that's why you don't get sick. If all you care about is sex then you get a whore. You don't look for a good woman. But don't complain how much of a hoe she is either. Really disgusting. Talk about the number one reason to have trust issues in men.

[MandyJ]

They say, (and maybe it's a joke) the best way to get a loan from a bank, is to prove you don't need it.
So maybe it's the same with sex. I don't know.

[RingOfFire]

Good analogy! Another great banking expression: If you owe the bank a thousand dollars and you can't pay it back, you have a problem. If you owe the bank a million dollars and you can't pay it back, the bank has a problem.

[MandyJ]

Yes, Barney Frank came up with that saying.

[RingOfFire]

I believe it was J. Paul Getty. 😉 Although it wouldn't surprise me if Barney Frank quoted him.

[RingOfFire]

As a matter of fact I think I remember Frank saying it.

[MandyJ]

I remember a woman on TV who bought 4 condos, and her combined mortgages was 10 K per month. She made a negative income from her daycare business, but still qualified for the loans, under the Barney scam. But we're getting way off topic. The premise of your question is very true. But there's no way in fuck you'll convince anyone on this site that it's true. It's just not going to happen. There's some truth to the saying that nice guys finish last. But it should be, Simps finish last.

[RingOfFire]

Wow! Who are you and what have you done with the dummies on the site? I'm impressed. And to tell you the truth I'd rather talk about the first topic you mentioned in your last post, but I usually reserve those topics for another site. You are right yet again. If someone had to pick the single individual most responsible for the 2008 bank crisis it would be Barney Frank. He refused to let the Bush administration tighten up regulations on Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac. 90% of my incentive for posting questions like this is to modulate the lefties and feminists. It's a hobby from which I derive great pleasure. Seeing the virtue signalers have seizures is priceless.

[MandyJ]

My brother related a story to me. I could post it here, but no one would get it. He went into a bar, and sat next to a pretty lady. Pretty Lady: Would you like to buy me a drink? Brother: I'm sorry, but do I know you? Pretty Lady: No Brother: Then I'm confused. Why would I buy you a drink? Pretty Lady: A lot of guys like to buy women drinks. Brother: Seriously? Why? Pretty Lady: They just do. Brother: They must be complete fucking idiots. Do you buy strangers drinks? Pretty Lady: No, of course not. Brother: Smart lady. Pretty Lady: Can I buy you a drink? Brother: Sure. :) My brother is a pickup artist and he's also my best friend. I'd share some of his tricks on this site, but I'd be talking to the walking dead.

[RingOfFire]

Beautiful! Smooth 👍🏻

[MountAverage]

I'm trying to imagine what it would be like to be 65 years old and being as bitter as you. Whatever you did these past 65 years, you clearly did everything wrong. You had 65 years to work on yourself, on your attitude, on your social skills, on your understanding of women, on your humbleness, and and and. And what did you do in all this time? Nothing. You utterly and completely failed in all regards. What a shame. And how sad. How fucking sad of a creature you are.

[Avicenna]

No, you need to convince her she can trust you

[Jamie05rhs]

"Withholding sex is the female equivalent of rape." Um, NO...

[Anonymous]

LOL, Yes. sometimes you do. But then if you convince her to have sex some feminist bitch will claim you raped her because changing her mind is rape