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Are men just naturally superior? Is nature inherently sexist?

Now I know what you're thinking, What a ridiculous question!! Aren't you a woman? Why would you think this way? But the more I think about it the more I realize that women's biology works against them in so many different ways. First of all women hold most of the responsibility/burden of sex because of the fact that we can easily become pregnant. Even in modern times women have to be the ones to use hormonal contraceptives / condoms because men don't care for the potential side affects or don't like the feel of it. In addition to this it's so much easier for men to orgasm from intercourse then women. Leaving women with little physical pleasure and the intense pain of childrearing. For most of human existence this has hindered our development in other aspects because most of our time was dedicated to raising and making children along with trying to survive our pregnancies. This would inherently make women extremely dependent on men for protection and force men to provide for his offspring. Men's superior strength also attributed to this submissiveness of women. Since men were naturally encouraged to work it only makes sense that they would be in charge of governance and put into positions of power. As a woman that has identified as a feminist in the past this was an extremely bitter pill to swallow. It seems like nature intended for a patriarchy and feminism is just a futile attempt to change it. This might sound defeatist but maybe the best thing we could do is embrace our true nature instead of fighting it. After all, we are all slaves to our own bodies.
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I don't hate women ( I am one lol) I was just trying to understand why it seems like mother nature created us to be this way. I've come to the conclusion that things are naturally unfair. Men are naturally superior at some things and so are women. The truth is that we all have struggles because we are an inherently flawed species.
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  • No and yes, respectively. We are not separate species in competition with each other. We are two halves of one species who each evolved to do different things. Let's take the points you raised one at a time:
    - Women take a bigger risk with sex and have a heavier burden when it comes to reproduction. True. As a species, we put everything into intelligence and charisma, and those giant brains come at the price of being born fetal.
    -Women have to handle contraception because men care for the potential side affects or don't like the feel of it. Not quite. There are female condoms, but they are overwhelmingly a male thing, and remain the only viable temporary means of birth control available to us, as hormonal attempts either didn't work, or had serious, life-threatening consequences. More are in development, but there's quite a bit of social and political pressure to keep reproductive choices out of men's hands. That's more of a social issue than a biological one, though.
    -It's easier for men to orgasm from intercourse than women. True. Natural selection is a harsh mistress. It needn't stop you personally, but social systems are built off of biological realities, and thousands of years of social engineering won't change overnight.
    -Women's development has long been hindered by the necessities of child-bearing and -rearing. No. That is specifically what women evolved to do; that is what you have developed towards. Are you under the impression that cavewomen spent all day herding kids while the men were out throwing spears at mammoths? They were weaving the nets that caught the rabbits, bludgeoning the captured creatures to death, and gathering the fruits and vegetables that the more dangerous animals didn't eat (the enhanced color perceptions that let you pick up tiny gradients in color aren't there to let you pick out the best wallpaper for the parlor; they're so you can tell the difference between the berries that are tasty and nutritious from the ones that'll kill you). They were weaving and sewing and throwing pots- and yes, having and watching the kids. But they were also doing the vital work of keeping the villages running.
    -These biological limits make women dependent on men for protection. True, but incomplete. They also make women more risk-averse. That's going to come up later.
    -Men's traditional leadership positions came from their need to work. No, but you're close. They came from men's need to RISK. Put yourself in the role of an Inuit spear-fisher. You go out in a small canoe, armed with nothing more than a long wooden spear, to hunt carnivorous whales bigger than your boat. One killed whale is a LOT of meat- but that only goes so far when you have to split it with your wife and kids. It's much easier to life by yourself and just hunt enough to meet your needs- but then you have no family and leave no children, so nature selects against you.

    Look into anthropology, and you'll see that the degree of male power within a society is directly proportional to the degree of risk the average man was expected to take. It's the way social contracts work; a higher risk gets a higher reward. Does that seem unfair? Think of the men for whom the risk doesn't pay off- the man eaten by the whales, or gored by the bison, or driven into bankruptcy and living under a park bench. It hasn't gone away.

  • That's a way too materialistic view on it. Women could be seen as superior as well as Men but nobody is superior to anybody. We just live in a sick Society, where only Power matters, which not only force out our animalistic nature, it also makes us dependend on it. You have to see the big picture, than your questions will be solved.

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  • If you go and look at some other species, sexual dimorphism can be quite extreme. In gorillas, dominant males are something like four times larger than females. They can crush her skull with their bare hands. Even ten females can't defeat a dominant male gorilla in combat. Their society is organized around this fact. When a dominant male gorilla meets unaccompanied females with children, he kills their children, then he forces them to procreate with him. I have a hard time coming to terms with this fact.

    There are also forms of sexual dimorphism that are not this miserable. Some are quite beautiful. For example, the male anglerfish is tiny compared to the female; when they procreate, it attatches itself permanently to her body and they become the same organism. Imagine living this way, the appendage of your lover, which she activates at her pleasure?

    Our species has it pretty easy. The only thing we have to worry about is that one sex develops muscle faster. The differences that exist are not really very significant. But there are other species who can't argue this. I don't think its right to say that nature is 'sexist', though, anymore than nature is speciesist, etc. Every organism has different affordances, different abilities, different zones and regions, a different eros of existence. Is an ant better than an aphid? Is a wasp better than an orchid? These questions don't make sense to me. All we have to do is open ourselves up to the outside; let ourselves be penetrated by new stratum. Whenever I meet someone, I don't know if they're a man or a woman. I never manage to figure it out. Anything else is stupidity.

    • by the way, virtually no other species endures the painful childbirth and prolonged childrearing that humans do. its really extreme, especially before modern medicine where almost half of all women would die during childbirth. its an immense cost that only our species pays. it seems strange to me to argue that this is nature being 'inherently speciesist' or something like that, though. nature can only appear 'inherently sexist' when we approach it with an arbitrary social domination already in mind. all that really matters is that we have a bunch of adaptations we can execute at our luxury.

  • Pretty sure you’re a guy behind a pink account making women look bad. How fkn pathetic are you LOL

    • I'm not but I don't blame you for thinking that way 😂

    • You are.

    • You refer to women as “them” in your post many times. If you were a woman writing it, you would’ve included yourself, such as “our biology”. Nice try.

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  • Men and women are DIFFERENT, but it's a mistake to paint yourself as a victim. Men could go on and on about the pressures to provide and protect (and they are huge, and with us every day), and every other thing that is "unfair" to us - but what would be the point of that?

    The truth is that life is hard for everyone, but it's also joyous. Everyone had burdens and pressures and expectations and pain, but so what? If you always focus on your "victimhood", then you'll just be bitter and angry and afraid and you'll spend your life being miserable. WHY? Why not look at the positives instead, and look at men as PARTNERS, to work with together as a TEAM, where each of you bring different strengths?

    It's good that you've seen that feminism, as it's defined today, is a lie. Women are far less happy than they used to be, yet far more feminist. Why support something that doesn't make you happy?

    Here's a hint: your job won't make you happy. Nor will your house or your car or those shoes that are in your Amazon cart. The only thing that can really make you happy is another person who cares about you. But you can't have that if you are bitter and divided. If you think about the happiest people you know, they probably have good partners who they work together with, and they probably have children they are proud of and who bring them tremendous joy.

    It's the PEOPLE that matter. Find a balance that works for you, and embrace it, and be happy. Be proud to be FEMALE, and feminine, and quit trying to compete with men to be more manly then they are. I know feminism tells you to do that, but it just makes you miserable. Be a woman, be a partner, and find someone who values you as a partner and works together with you for your MUTUAL benefit.

  • You don't know what I'm thinking at all. Really misjudged that one. What I was thinking is - oh great, another male pretending to be female.

    • I never claimed to know what you're thinking and I am a woman.

  • Men are the rank and file worker bees of the species, we are the birth givers and nurturers. When you simplify it, neither sounds all that glorious. That’s just how nature is with all things male and female. Peaches and bananas, is there a superior fruit?

    No. It’s two different things. Plantains and bananas are a better comparison. When two things complete to be the same thing, you’ll have a winner.

  • No, we are not. We both have our biological advantages, but we compliment each other.

    Average man might be physically stronger, but women handle infections from microorganisms better (bacterial, viral, fungal).

  • I wouldn't say that nature is inherently sexist. Nature is random and uncaring. Things exist and evolve in such a way that functionally makes the most sense. The reality of some sort of perfect 'sex' balance was never happening and is pretty subjective anyways.

    Women are the gatekeepers of sex. They can easily tell a man that sex isn't happening without the usage of condoms. Granted, obviously yeah the consequences are much more dire for women so they have to figure out at what level they want to take precaution and whatnot.

    Sure, it's a bummer for women that orgasm is more difficult, but male orgasm is directly linked with a biologically important event of impregnation. Female orgasm isn't. I would assume that if the roles were reversed and men had difficulty ejaculating, there would be quite a few less humans in existence, for better or worse. Women also are capable of multiple orgasms and basically have complete control over how often they get to have sex if they are even remotely attractive.

    Nature surely doesn't care about the concept of 'society', it only cares about basic survival. Both sexes are important to continuing human existence. Sure, men are stronger and faster, etc. But women are more nurturing and caring. Incredibly important in the development of humanity. In terms of leadership, yeah, the stronger and more militant of the sexes are always going to rule because it's about power, not perceived fairness. This is the same in the animal kingdom. At least human women don't bite off our heads after mating.

    So yeah, men aren't superior at all in the eyes of nature. We all play our role. Nature doesn't care about fairness, either. Just continued existence.

  • You are very Smart and I agree because your saying a lot of things there I like the word smart not superior not when it comes to make female or couple and if in a relationship of one starts acting that it's time to leave one of the best things about being in a relationship is. Doing it together and growing together but if you around I guy thst treats you as if he is superior you have to really think anout

  • i think nature really screwed women over ☹

    • Me too :-(

  • I believe men and women exist to compliment each other. What strength one lacks the other makes up for. That's okay in my book.

  • Naturally, men are superior physically.

    That's not sexist, that's just a straight up fact.

    Now in terms of with sex is more superior in intelligence, I don't really think there's a superior sex in that regard.

    • which*

    • right , any advantages physically still shouldn't contribute to the societal way of perceiving men vs women, because we live in a world where we dont even need the advantages we have anymore. theyre useless XD

    • @strawberrylipstick I concur.

  • We are differently enabled by the Creator.

  • Men are more physically power allowing them to fight or partake in dangerous activities more effectively. The reason for this is that men are disposable. A tribe’s population can be maintained more easily with men dying than women dying.

    similarly men tend to be more risk takers than women. Men who took large risks in the past that paid off had lots of children. Men who took large risks that didn’t work out died childless - a fate not all that different from men who were very cautious. “Playing it safe” worked better for women. And we still see this today with men much more likely to end up CEO or a leader and also much more likely to end up dead, in prison or homeless.

    men are not superior but they tend to have a wide range of outcomes than women. If you only look at the winners you’re getting a very biased impression.

    • Wow I really like your take on this!

  • You bring up some logical points, but I simply look at men and women as being different. It’s not a matter of superiority or inferiority, but rather recognizing our differences and taking on a role that feels natural to ones self. Women typically possess a higher emotional IQ. Men typically possess a higher aptitude in logic based subjects such as STEM. Men get to sleep around without judgement due to biological truths, but it’s also harder for men to have sex. Women are the more selective gender. so dating is typically a lot easier for women. Women are typically much more organized. Women are much better suited to nurture.

    We all have different expectations and values in life. It’s just what you prioritize in regards to your value I guess.

  • it all depends on the comparison categories you choose. in some, women are better, in some men are. the differences we see do not exist cause nature is sexist. they exist, cause nature doesn't care whether we survive or not and we have to fight so we don't preish... so that's where that comes from. not cause anyone had malicious intend.

  • Men are physically stronger on average and that's just it. Everyone's different..

  • I only read your title and not all the jumble below. Men and women both have their strengths. So yes men are naturally superior at some things while women are naturally superior at other things.

  • Superior in physical strength, as the average man is physically stronger than the average woman, but overall they aren't superior except in the physical strength department.

  • I chose No.

  • Why can't society as a whole admit males and females are different?

    It has nothing to do with being superior or inferior.

  • I think women are superior

  • do you intend to be submissive to your husband?

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