How much worth does a woman's beauty really hold?

[Anonymous]

So, to start I am a little insecure. I am average, some men think i am beautiful, some think I am ugly. My body is average, I am fit but have small boobs, flat butt (even with dedicated glute workouts) and my curves aren't quite enough for most to take a second glance at me.

Putting aside the fact that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" crap, lets make this simple by saying a woman is strictly average looking to you. You are dating her, how easy is it for a hotter woman to steal you away if she wanted you?
If you are scrolling through perfect looking, photoshopped instagram models all day, even if you love your girl... can you really maintain that attraction?

I am trying to make myself believe that mens attraction is very similar to a womans, in that if they fall for an average looking woman the love will make them want her over everyone else, and that the lust for another hot woman is just that. Lust. But, can men really lust for an average woman the same as for a hot girl? Or am I doomed to be a mans 2nd, 3rd, or 4th choice forever unless i can get surgery to get rid of my ugly parts?
(I know this sounds sexist but please understand I know its not every single man and I just want to understand how attraction works better. I had a terrible experience with men growing up, my dad was the stereotypical incel type)

Thank youu

[Birdlegs]

Beauty obviously is important in American society at least. I’ve only dated one girl in my lifetime and of course I thought she was incredibly attractive but she wasn’t the most attractive girl I’ve ever met. I was with her for a reason though, since breaking up with her I’ve met girls who are objectively just as and more attractive than her but I haven’t gotten with them because to me it’s more than just looks that attracts me to a person. Obviously looks is the first thing I see but any food can look good but what really matters is how it tastes. You feel me?

[The_Maphio]

Depends on the woman.
Some capitalize fully on their aesthetics, and crumble into nothingness once they hit "the wall".
Once fallen in irrelevance, they become shades of their former selves.

I'd urge women to take care of themselves, but ultimately put less effort in fixing their hair and more in developing diverse skills and abilities that don't have that tedious time limit attached.

[aarnasen]

As much as you let it define you. Honestly society will make noise about bunch of stuff like your appearance, intellect, etc. All that matters is what you wish to define yourself with, and what those people you care to impress think. The rest is just noise 🗣️

[weysally]

there are many men that are loyal, but there are many that aren't, same with women, so lets not make an issue between genders,
in a lot of cases men are as loyal as their wallet allows, woman are as loyal as how much comes out of the wallet

[IronLady6354]

Looks do not guarantee a happy love life. You don't need to look any further than Hollywood to find that out

[NathanDavis]

To keep it simple, for the men that are worth, women are worth for more than just their bodies.

[exitseven]

People are a lot more than what they see in the mirror every day. Looks are nice to have but they will only get you so far. It's better to be kind and loving.

[JamieLoves]

What your saying, is “ looks fade, stupid lasts forever “

[JamieLoves]

... You’re ass is great ! Small boobs great !
So far you’re perfect! I hate big asses and I prefer small breasts.. Average women? Show a picture , I’ll be honest... Average can be fine, if I love your personality, the way you move, dress and your hair. Don’t listen to others , their opinions don’t matter in real life.

[Asker]

I appreciate the comment, however what I am trying to figure out, is if your a man and you prefer a big ass, but you are with me, can you be satisfied with me? The reason this point is so important, is because there will ALWAYS be someone hotter. I could be a 10/10 and one day my boyfriend will see, whether real or fake, a woman that he finds hotter than me. It will happen, so my question remains. How could a man love and desire his woman if there is someone hotter around?

[JamieLoves]

If it’s Real True love, don’t worry. Girls and guys will always look, admire and check out the opposite sex. There will always be people that you and he may be attracted to. Maybe prettier, maybe better body, but he doesn’t know if she’s a bitch... If he lives you and you love him, then he won’t want to be with anyone else

[Asker]

Awesomee

[JamieLoves]

👍🏻

[Joshua0213]

As long as she looked decent not much.

[Paulychicago10]

Its not super big, but I'd prefer a female with some confidence. But from the sounds of it, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

[Bklynbadboy12]

It holds value but not as much as you think what about intelligence and compatibility those traits have far more value to me

[Harleyguy]

Sounds like you to work on your self esteem.

[Anonymous]

I don't care about my looks

[Anonymous]

The lust we have for hot women is INTENSE and doesn't go away. But that doesn't mean we'd up and leave a girl we love for her. But it does increase the chances that in a moment of weakness a guy would have sex with her if the opportunity presents itself.

Good news though is that for most guys, that opportunity never presents itself.

[Asker]

So.. men aren't capable of being loyal? So basically what your saying is it doesn't matter how much a man loves me, unless im super hot he will sleep with other women? Great

[Opinion Owner]

There's a saying that men are as loyal as their options. Most men don't have that many though! lol! So there are PLENTY of loyal guys out there.

[Asker]

I don't care if a man can't get another woman. I care about if he wants another woman. I refuse to marry a man who is only with me because he can't get better. This is exactly why I refuse to get married, It isn't fair that I will always be the only loyal one in a relationship

[Asker]

Because a lot of men can get other women, so if what you are saying is true, he will eventually cheat on me.

[Opinion Owner]

Not really. The men who can get better women won't be with you in the first place. They'll be with the women they prefer. The guy who's with you is with you because you're great for him.

[Asker]

so what you are saying is I will always be second to another woman, and If I'm not, it is just because he can't get better?

[Opinion Owner]

Look at it this way--think of 10 of the hottest women of all time. We're talking supermodel types. Now take a few of them who undoubtedly ALSO have great personalities. Wouldn't ANY man want to be with them? Of COURSE they would. But only 5 guys in the WORLD get that. The other 4 billion have to find someone else.

[Asker]

well I guess the same goes for men

[Opinion Owner]

Absolutely! We're ALL aware of this basic fact of life. But the reality is that the girl we're dating isn't going to get a call from Brad Pitt just the same as Alexandra Daddario isn't going to throw herself at our crotches anytime soon.

[Asker]

Well the thing is... this doesn't hold true for me or most of my friends. No man is better than my boyfriend. Not even brad pitt. I wouldn't trade him for anyone. Not even a billionare with a six pack. Some of my friends are married to men who aren't perfect but they are in love and also show no interest in other men. So I guess its just men that are never happy with what they have.

[Opinion Owner]

It's not that men aren't happy with what they have. It's that we're also set off by other mating opportunities. As are women if you're being 100% honest.

[Asker]

Well, I still think it is unfair that i can be completely in love mentally and physically for a man. I crave him, want him and only him, would do anything for him and wouldn't trade him for any other man... but he's just sitting there thinking about and possibly fucking other women. It seems painfully onesided. I do understand not all women are like this... and maybe I just habe the opportunity of getting the men I want, but I know i am not the ideal woman, so they are probably just settling for me.

[Anonymous]

"I am trying to make myself believe that mens attraction is very similar to a womans, in that if they fall for an average looking woman the love will make them want her over everyone else, and that the lust for another hot woman is just that."

That's 100% true at least with me

[Anonymous]

A lot. I probably wouldn't fall for someone I find strictly average, in the first place.
That being said, if I did already fall for someone, another person wouldn't "steal" me from them just because they are more attractive.

Finally, you shouldn't underestimate "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder".
Tons of gals who I consider 9s are 4s to my friends and vice versa.

[Asker]

makes sense, although, when I say put "beauty is in the eyes of the beholder" aside, I didn't mean it was pointless, It is a very accurate statement, but I figured most of the answers I would receive for this question would be people saying that or trying to convince me I am hot. I know I am hot to a lot of men, some men really want me. However, there will always be someone better. Even if I do find someone who likes my exact face and body type, he will come across someone hotter. So if I tell myself that my man won't leave me and will only lust after me because I am the hottest thing in his eyes I will without a doubt set myself up for failure, because there is always someone hotter (or more his type) So, what I am struggling to understand, is when a man does come across someone hotter, how can he desire his girl? does he just "settle" because it is not worth the constant hunt for the "grass is greener" situation, or when a man is in love can he be completely satisfied with her?

[Asker]

another point to make is even if i am completely perfect in a mans eyes, one day I will age. What will happen if I am 40? Will he start ignoring me to get off to 20 year old porn?