Are men allowed to have rape fantasies too?

[HiveBee]

Let's just be honest. Everyone knows a lot of women have rape fantasies. Everyone knows a lot of women are kinky AF.

And it's not just "a lot." Its a significant percentage.

Me personally, I was always vanilla for a long time. I had no idea about kinky stuff. I tried my best in bed. I improved my stroke game. I learned to eat pussy. All these things that sound good on paper.

But now that I'm a kinky freak I look back at my old vanilla self and my past relationships. Liks 85% of girls I dated, I could not truly satisfy on a deep level.

And looking back, I see how they hinted and tried to get me to that kinky level they were on. They wanted to be choked and bitten and spanked and held down and forced. The force was a big one. So many times I tried to play their little force rape games and i simply couldn't do it. I simply could NOT understand why these girls wanted this weird stuff.

Years later i awakened my kinky side, finally! And I'm glad I did! Kinky shit is awesome! It's the greatest thing to ever happen to me honestly. It has made me actually fall in love with women women strangely enough.

And now, after so much time, I have developed a taste for the rape fetish. I want it because I know how it makes the girl feel who also wants it. I want to play it with her. I want to give it to her.

I dont want it because I need to feel the power or whatever. Maybe if I did, I would be able to play it more authentically for her. And maybe I should develop that as well. But for now, my rape fetish is really something i enjoy because i know she enjoys it.

And STFU to the fucking SJWs and the BDSM police, ranting and crying about "consent." No. Fucking. Shit. Sherlock. I can't stand y'all.

[Aeon_Norell]

Judging by the poll results published every now and then by magazines, quite a lot of women either have a rape fantasy or some other kind of fantasy of being overpowered by a partner.
I see no problem in having the fantasy and if you find someone with a similar taste, it should be possible to do some kind of roleplay or consensual rape-scenario. I think it's called "consensual non-consent" in the kink/BDSM world.
As long as you don't actually go out and rape others.

And if you do feel a need/want to actually rape somebody (as in no consent and no regard for the other person), I do suggest you seek help as that would be very wrong.

[HiveBee]

Well see here in my mind we have a problem with definitions. For example with women. Their fantasy is not to have "consensual nonconsent." Their fantasy is to be actually be raped. However since obviously they logically do not want that in their minds, they seek to satisfy the fantasy through a trusted sexual partner. But I dont think that means the person does not have a legitimate immoral fantasy. For me personally i dont really fantasize about a real rape. I could never commit a real rape. I just can't. I have the fantasy because i know the pleasure the woman feels from acting out herfantasy. And so I've developed this fantasy because of my desire to give pleasure. I dont really have any fantasy to actually rape a woman. I dont imsgine a real rape would be pleasurable lol. But hey maybe it would be for some girls. I'd like to make it as real for my partner as she needs to feel satisfied and fulfilled.

[Anonymous]

My ex wanted that type of stuff too.
I really struggled to understand it or how to give that experience to her.
I feel a bit insecure about it.
I was just never that guy, I loved women too much and it confuses me.
How did you figure out how to play that character for them?

[HiveBee]

Well I became a kinky freak myself. I unlocked that side of me. And boy I'm glad I did! I wish i knew how to grant you the same. I really dont know. One time i was with a girl, she was on her back sucking my dick. I was about to cum at the same time she tapped my leg to let her breath. But she felt I was going to cum, she stopped me from pulling out, she let her body go limp, and she let me cum in her throat. The act of submission on her part, relinquishing her need to breath for my need to orgasm. Omg. It sent waves and waves and waves of just pure love and affection towards her. It was extremely intense. It's an amazing thing. And on the flip side, the submissive also feels incredible bodily orgasms. That's how I discovered it. Through a sort of submissive fantasy awakening where a woman would control my cock and masturbate me so well that the pleasure was torturous. I wished so much in an instant I could have a woman tie me down and stroke my cock in such a way that I would go mad with pleasure and become a crazy person or something lol. Being kinky is fucking awesome. And most women are fucking freaks. Dont let what they say on here sway you. Most people STILL have extremely negative views on sex.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm affraid that I may have too much of a submissive side to really succeed at being dominant in sex. That might be my roadblock here. I like when a woman sits on my face or rides my cock and uses me however she needs. I like her to grab my hair and grind her pussy on my face while I eat her out. I like her to tell me what she wants. I like to spoil them and let her be a bossy bitch to an extent. I get a thrill out of it. I'm a giver in bed and it's difficult for me to switch to being demanding.

[HiveBee]

And so your submission gives you a view into how women feel. For you it's an amazing feeling. Same for them. You can learn it. I am the same as you but discovered I like both sides. Personally I think it's in all of us. I think it is primal sexuality. Just need to wake it up which is hard lol.

[Opinion Owner]

I understand what you mean. The way I get a thrill out of her grabbing my head and grinding her pussy on my face is probably what she would feel if I pushed her head down and face fucked her. I just need to retrain myself to do these things.

[HiveBee]

You dont even need to "retrain" yourself. Next time you're with a girl, take the lead. The feeling of dominant behavior is reinforced in you, when you take the lead, AND THE GIRL SUBMITS. For example, last girl I kissed. I took her by the hand, gently of course. No force at all. But I took her hand in mine, and pulled her towards me. But I didn't need to pull her. I didn't need to force her. She came to me. I indicated what I wanted and physically so, and she complied 100% willongly. Man, that is an incredible feeling. And it quickly escalates. You can go from a hand pull into a kiss, to forcing her to choke on your cock in a very rough and forceful way. It's a matter of. degree. it's a matter of experience. It's a matter of understanding that she wants what you want. That she NEEDS to submit to you. Because as you and I know, submission is extremely intoxicating and feels. so fucking amazing. Give her what she wants and needs just as you wish you could have it yourself! You'll get there. Check out omgyes. Com. It's not about this BDSM stuffed. But it is about how to pleasure women in the bedroom and is an amazing resource.

[Opinion Owner]

Thanks, I'll have to check it out. I always liked to play wrestle on the bed with my ex and I know it turned her on that I can overpower her. I just never took it futher to where I'm pinning her down during sex or anything like that. I know she wanted me to tie her up and whip her, but I couldn't stop laughing to myself. I just didn't get it. I really feel like after years of me giving her control during sex she really craved for me to be more selfish. Oh well, I didn't understand it at the time.

[DizzyDesii]

So you mustve been the anon on my question talkin about rape fantasies. Either way, man or woman, i would not want to be around someone interested in that. I’d feel they have issues deep down if they find anything about rape to be a turn on. I dont wish rape on anyone but i’ve come close to experiencing that by being taken advantage of and thats enough for me to never find anything interesting about rape

[HiveBee]

wasn't me. But that is an ignorant stance. there's nothing wrong with people who have BDSM like fantasies.

[DizzyDesii]

Rape and bdsm are two different things. Bdsm is a mutual thing. you're agreeing to allow one person to dominate you. Rape is when you did not consent to giving up control of your body. But i dont have time to school you. You already states you're not tryna hear that. So i’ll be on my way now ✌️

[kyleelyn199723]

BDSM is not the same as rape. I have done BDSM in the past and you have to do it with a truth-worthy dominant man, that knows how to inflict pain, but stops when you use your safe word. BDSM is wanted pain.

[HiveBee]

When did I imply that I want to ACTUALLY rape a woman? Please quote my post where that is implied. Did you even bother to read it?

[kyleelyn199723]

You implied that BDSM and rape are the same things when they are not.

[HiveBee]

Why can't we be adults and talk about adult topics? A rape fantasy is expressed through BDSM. It's you who are choosing to separate the rape. fantasy from the BDSM consensual expression. That's like basic BDSM 101 is it not? Why do I have to include the entire BDSM police into my post just so you won't misconstrue what I'm saying? Do you think I really wanna sneak up on a girl and kidnapp her and rape her?

[kyleelyn199723]

Letting someone do whatever they want to you is consensual though so that doesn’t make any sense. Rape is rape. BDSM is wanted pain/wanted sexual intercourse

[kyleelyn199723]

You are speaking for me and I do not have rape fantasies. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[HiveBee]

How? I said a large percentage of women, not all women.

[kyleelyn199723]

Ahhh but I’m confused on where you got “a lot “ from. Looks like you are looking up porn sites and jumping to conclusions.

[HiveBee]

Google it lol. It's common knowledge. It's well understood in the psychology world. Also I have never watched that kind of porn whatsoever in my life.

[kyleelyn199723]

So you Google these types of fantasies but you do not watch porn? I call bullshit 🤷🏻‍♀️

[HiveBee]

Of course I watch porn. But I dont watch rape porn. I dont watch BDSM domination porn or any of that.

[kyleelyn199723]

I call bullshit lol you wouldn’t be asking this if your curiosity didn’t spark out of a video you have watched :)

[kyleelyn199723]

BDSM porn and “rape” porn are two different things. Rape porn has been invented by the sickos of porn hun while bdsm has been around for years

[HiveBee]

Well I'm not. going to explain to you my porn journey but I am not lying. For some reason you are upset and refusing to hear what I'm saying. You're projecting onto me. If a woman has a rape. fantasy, how does. she satisfy her kink? That is what I'm talking about.

[kyleelyn199723]

I’m not projecting anything you are just saying a lot of women are into it which doesn’t make any sense when you are a man once again speaking for women. I find it frustrating when men speak for women. And if she has those fantasies, she needs to seek therapy. ASAP. I’m sorry, but rape victims did not have that fantasy

[HiveBee]

That is extremely ignorant of you to say lol. And you say you understand BDSM. It's extremely common and well studied as well. You are projecting. And I learn about this stuff from women Female psychologists. Feminists also talk about BDSM. BDSM is also good for people as it has positive effects on their mental health. The science is well studied. Surveys on women and their kinks. Google searches compiled into data sets. They see what porn we like and study it lol. Its mainstream science. I dont have to assume anything for women. But my personal experience of course lines up as well. I think I'm done here. Adult conversations can't be had on here I suppose. You're projecting.

[Astarlessnightsky]

Yes, as long as it is a fantasy its not a crime.

[Astarlessnightsky]

Also no one can read your mind, so no one knows.

[Barry88]

Fantasies are just fantasies and not real. As long as you can make the difference between fantasy and reality, you can fantasize whatever you like.

[yourbabygirl921]

This is just not my thing but I do have kinky fantasy but not this but I know some woman who are into rape fantasy which I find weird

[BarryLiverstone]

Yes, key word fantasy.

[HiveBee]

Sjw police go away.

[BarryLiverstone]

Wtf? Dude you judged me without knowing me. I can’t stand sjws, I actually care about our freedoms and rights.

[BarryLiverstone]

Why haven’t you watched bdsm porn? It’s sexy

[HiveBee]

I watch BDSM porn but not for dominating women. I want the woman to dominate me lol. I also like to dominate the woman. But I dont masturbate to the fantasies. I can only enjoy it in real life scenarios.

[BarryLiverstone]

Well that’s a lie because in this q you said you don’t watch bdsm porn. Be better.

[HiveBee]

No I said I dont watch porn with women being dominated as the girl who i was talking with was trying to imply. Go back and read it. She was accusing me, basically, of consuming porn which degrades women, and thus that is why I developed an interest in consensual non consent. And her view, is that such fetishes are bad and that along with that, I, a consumer of porn, have had my views warped by this corrupt porn. Which is complete bullshit. I awakened my kinky side in a completely vanilla way. Upon experiencing this new part of my sexuality I began exploring it. After years of exploration and realizations and understanding of how women feel, and how women experience this submissive sexual kinks, rape/consensual non consent, I realized the incredible pleasure women feel, because I feel it too as someone who also has a submissive sexual kink, which as I said arose out of completely vanilla and non kinky circumstances. But I see now, that any explanation I levy towards you will be ignored. I dont think you have any plans to be honest with me at all and if that is the case your next reply will determine whether I block you or not, just as I did those two girls who replied to me with silly absurd attacks and complete ignorance and projection.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No, neither should women. Engaging in those evil thoughts can manifest into reality.

[HiveBee]

I've been wondering if that's true. Because that makes perfect sense especially for the man with a rape fantsdy. But I've been reading more and more about rape and supposedly majority of rape cases do not involve a BDSM rape fetish. It's usually completely unrelated. In fact, BDSM is associated with drastically improved mental health. They call it sexual healing for a reason. I think to discard it as evil of bad is ignorant.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

It's true. Be careful what you entertain in your head. No one wakes up and says today is going to be my first rape attempt; they normally have already played those rape vision thousands of times in their minds to get comfortable with the idea before they actually did it physically.

[HiveBee]

Yea but research says otherwise which is why I dont know if what you're saying is true. Either way, it is what it is. You can't have the government lock me up unless I actually commit a crime.

[Twalli]

Rape fantasies have consent. It's consensual nonconsent.

[HiveBee]

Exactly. But the girls who replied to me for some reason felt the need to attack me and twist my meaning.

[SamFromFL]

Reported, GTFO racist Trumpist.

[HiveBee]

Wrong post? Lol. I'm a libertarian I dont care one bit about trump hahaha. Also a staunch anti racist.

[JamieLoves]

I’ve Never had Any !!!

[Anonymous]

I'm going to guess you figured out the dating game quite early in life

[Anonymous]

How bout you stop fetishising and condoning rape? Rape means UNWANTED. What turns you on about a woman not wanting your sexual advances you pervert?

[HiveBee]

Tell that to all the women with rape fantasies lol.

[Opinion Owner]

No woman has a rape fantasy, it is the number one fear of woman these days. They won’t even walk alone at night time. You’re dumb.

[HiveBee]

Of course they do lol. This is like mainstream information available to anyone who can google. And some women DO go out to get raped on purpose. You probably never heard of that though lol. Of course nobody wants to actually be raped. That doesn't mean they dont have a rape fetish. Even men have this rape fetish. They wish for a woman to rape them. It's been studied over and over for the past 100 years like come on lol. You're just being silly.

[Opinion Owner]

If they “want” something it’s not rape you imbecile. Stop using the term rape lightly and promoting this idea so sick perverted individuals such as your self can justify their actions.

[HiveBee]

But that's what it is. It's a rape fantasy. That's a fact. Did you even read my post? I dont want to rape any woman. I want to give pleasure. And when I realized and understood why women have rape fantasies, and the pleasure they feel from acting it out with their lover, i desired to give her that pleasure. Because i know how incredibly good it feels. You're the one putting words in my mouth. Making assumptions and accusations that dont apply whatsoever.

[Opinion Owner]

You are a pervert, creep and a rapist.

[HiveBee]

Lol ok. Cool. That's good actually. I couldnt attract women until I got on their level. Now that I'm on their level of sexual non morality, I have such an easier time being attractive to y'all. You females are the nasty ones lol. I'm just following in your footsteps.

[Opinion Owner]

Nah you’re probably just a disgusting low-tier classless male which is why you attract TRASHY females.

[HiveBee]

What a horrible thing to say about women. You are exactly the same as the men on here who rage at women and hate them. And right now, you think I am like that. Because it's your automatic assumption, because literally 90% of dudes on here hate and resent women. Are angry all the time and always start silly fights. You're saying exactly what they say. That a woman who is sexually liberated and acts on it, is a literal piece of human garbage. Your attitudes towards sex are disgusting. You degrade women for being free and acting upon said freedom. Just like 90% of these angry ass men do.

[HiveBee]

You are deliberately ignoring my post, and interpreting it as some evil demon when in reality I haven't said anything offensive at all. I've only spoken the truth. You see said truth, and change your view. Now, instead of its ME "speaking for all women" its "yes you're right in your analysis of women, as a large percent having kinky, non moral fantasies. But those women are simply human garbage."

[HiveBee]

I love women. y'all are great. It's because I love women that I was able to let go of those parts of me that were resentful to women. I, along with a large percentage of men, just cannot understand the female perspective. But I learned to love women and I understood what makes most of y'all tick. And that's great. And I want to support that. From vanilla to freak. So I asked the question, to see what people would say. They see women's sexuality as evil. As corrupt. As disgusting, as you do. And now, if I speak of satisfying her fantasy, you come here denying that it exists! and then you realize I'm right, that it exists in many women, and then you call them trash!

[HiveBee]

No wonder I'm not allowed to engage in her fantasy in your mind. You hate women who have those fantasies. You see it immoral and evil and bad. And so I'm not allowed to engage in it either. Like you literally think I want to go rape random woman lol. I couldnt possibly do that. My dick wouldn't even get hard. Like I can know that very deeply. So yea I dont really care what else you have to say. I know. you'll just. completely misunderstand all of this too and go crazy on me again with stupid accusations. Have a nice life, hating your own gender. Shitting on women the way men do on here. It's sad. You think you hate those men, but you're just like them.

[Opinion Owner]

Tldr. You’re crazy if you think I read that. I DONT CARE WHAT YOU DUMB ASS HAS TO SAY. Rapist. Bye