Does dating younger men actually make a lot of evolutionary sense - higher sex drives in older women, better fertility in younger sperm, etc. ?

[Anonymous]

For those who are way way behind : http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2007422,00.html

Now, that I'm an older woman (31) with no kids, I can confirm - horny af. I dabble in cougarism now 😇 This makes me rethink the dating younger men seriously. It makes sense in terms of evolution - older women probably have a sex drive that matches up better with young men until a certain age, plus sperm also age and deteriorate, cause birth defects. Younger sperm = even better chances at healthy baby. The trick is maturity, interest in very serious relationships (some young guys are, to be fair), and finances. Divorce is high for age gaps, but gender may affect that, in my opinion. But even for fun - a lot of older men/young women relationships amount to just fun. We like our fun too and arguably have way more access to sexual fun than men do. I honestly don't think most women struggle to get casual sex until maybe 60s and even then it's still probably more of an issue of her lack of interest at that age.

Serious is the focus for me these days though :)

Older women here - did your sex drive/sexual activity increase as you left the early/mid 20s? Do you enjoy dating younger men in general?

Cougars have increased a lot in my city and I think in most major cities. Will it continue as a trend and become more common? Are you a cougar/do you think you'd be into it? :)

I'll leave ya with some popular cougar couples / women who are just older by a few years lol :

Gabrielle Union is 10 years older than Dwayne Wade

Megan is 39 to Harry's 36 - Not much older, but she's def an older woman with a younger man and people threw a fit over it <3

President Macron's wife Brigitte is 24 years older than he is

Shakira is 10 years older than football star Gerard

Priyanka is 10 years older than Nick Jonas

Maybe instead of being annoyed by men 30+ preferring 21 year olds, more of us old ladies should be dating younger men as well, hmmm... enjoy your life, ladies! You only get one :)

[ChrisMaster69]

It makes zero sense, however everyone is free to go for who they want.

if you want younger guys go for it.

I tend to bounce around but I don’t need an excuse to do it lol.

[Asker]

What doesn't make sense to you exactly? No one is making excuses, I'm sharing research and talking about it lol

[ChrisMaster69]

The evolutionary bit. A couple in their early 20’s tick all the boxes. Over 30 things get more complicated

[Asker]

I'd disagree with that somewhat (young couples are more likely to get divorced, not as mature emotionally, probably make some mistakes with parenting that some older couples wouldn't, etc.) but more to the point - both types of couples can have evolutionary benefits. Just in terms of childbirth (not necessarily parenting/having a healthy relationship), super young couples are great. But I also wasn't comparing one over the other. I was talking about the evolutionary benefits of one specific type of couple. They can both have benefits. And if anything, your point supports my point - if young people are an extra boost for fertility/healthy babies, one young person is an extra boost compared to two old ones lol If evolution causes women to have higher sex drive when they get older (up to a certain age) and that matches up more with younger men, that's nature/biology/evolution. If older women still want to have kids and would have healthier babies/increased fertility with young men who don't have decaying sperm, that's also just nature/biology/evolution. This is just fact/science. I'm not sure what isn't landing lolol

[ChrisMaster69]

The percentage of conceiving increases, the chance of miscarriage increases, the chance of mental health issues increases.,., etc. As a 40 yr old guy, I know the realities of 40 yr old sperm ( hence I have younger stuff in the fridge )

[Asker]

So then you agree that younger sperm is an extra boost to fertility then! We're basically on the same page, you just won't admit it :) If a 35 yo woman wants to have a child, is it better to swirl her aging eggs around with aging sperm, or add the younger sperm that's less likely to cause fertility/birth defects?

[ChrisMaster69]

Yes but older eggs are not good

[Asker]

Aging eggs have their risks just like aging sperm. That's my point. But life is life and you end up where you end up or choose that route specifically. I would never go back and have children in my early 20s. So I'm thinking about what advantages nature has for me in dating different types of men. It's the same thing men do when they date young women, only now we have scientific evidence that says their sperm cause a lot of problems as they age as well :)

[Asker]

And yaaay you agree with me. And the sex drive alignment between older women and younger men is an extra bonus. I need my sexy time and the young ones have all that energy and stamina, plus they're so cute. 😅 (Also, positives for early child rearing!)

[Slim57]

That doesn't really add up but my reasoning is preffering mature women who don't play mind games in dating and know what they want is why I date them

[SimpDotOrg]

Yeah, go for it, I don't see any shame in it

[Anon833]

Honestly, I don’t care for any for the people who speak against this. I married my wife when I was 19 and she was 57. One year later, she gave birth to our beautiful, healthy daughter. Now I’m 31 and she’s 69, and we are still happily married.

[Mia-Wallace]

"Evolutionary sense" Lmao

[Mia-Wallace]

I mean, do what you want to do but you don't need to justify it with far fetched theories.

[Asker]

What's far fetched about it?

[Mia-Wallace]

You're mostly just making things up. The risk of having a baby with birth defects for a woman over the age of 35 is about the same as a woman who marries her first cousin. The fact men also lose fertility is irrelevant. It just shows a better strategy for both sexes is to have children when young and fertile, and that is if we prioritize lower health risks for babies to them having one or two parents with higher socioeconomic status. Why do you even feel the need to justify your desire for young men? Have fun.

[Asker]

Can you explain what I'm supposed to have made up? I didn't make up any of the points I mentioned and I linked to the scientific research that proves each point I believe. I really didn't say that much other than what science has said already. lol My main points are pretty simple : A. Women's sex drive has been shown to increase for a time as they get older and could be a better match for younger men and B. Sperm ages and causes fertility and birth defects, so a younger guy is a boost to an older woman's chances in terms of fertility and birth defects This isn't really something you can argue, so I'm not sure what the resistance is. It takes two people to have a child. "The fact men also lose fertility is irrelevant" is completely false. his fertility matters just as much as the woman's. This is why I linked the research about aging sperm and the affect on fertility and birth defects. No one needs to justify anything, I'm just discussing benefits of this specific coupling. Why are you bothered by someone talking about scientific data and the implications on older women's dating choices?

[Ms_Vanderquack]

No, please stop posting stupid shit.

[Asker]

What's stupid about it? I'm just talking about science. Also, why so aggressive?

[Ms_Vanderquack]

No, you are asking about bullshit. If you understood actual science you wouldn’t have posted this in the first place.

[exitseven]

How convenient.

[Asker]

Right?

[historectomy]

almost every young guy likes to have a cougar so why not

[jwatson4000]

You can keep the younger guys and leave me the youngest girls... wink

[Asker]

You're 19 lol Unless... you aren't :O

[jwatson4000]

Are you hitting on me? ;)

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Younger is better. Younger people have more energy and strength. As we get older we naturally decline in all aspects of our lives.

[Asker]

I wouldn't say younger is always better - you develop in many important ways as we get older. But in some ways, yes. I'm glad you can admit that young men have an advantage that older women can benefit from. I don't know why people are so against this, it's interesting, especially given that people happily accept the idea that younger women are better. Science says young men offer the same benefits for older women :)

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Yeah, but the younger man gets no benefit from a older woman compared to a 20 something younger woman. It works both ways.

[Asker]

I disagree there, and so do all these men I posted who are with older women :) Everyone (hopefully 😅) brings something to the table. And it depends on the guy. If he specifically wants a 20 year old, then maybe she's not for him. If he is attracted to the older woman physically, they have a great connection, she's a great lover and has a personality that spins his wheels, then I'd say she's bringing all the benefits she really needs to bring into a relationship. The sexual alignment is a plus ;) I've had guy tell me they can't stand to date young women because of the differences in the quality of conversation, expression of education and intellect, games/immaturity, and overall experience of being with them outside of fun/sex. One guy told me he thinks they're "fucking stupid" which I think is harsh - they're growing and learning themselves like we all had to. But some guys really aren't into most young women beyond the physical, so if one aspect of the physical (ovaries) is where the older woman is lacking, a lot of men will take that if they're experiencing an escape from what they get when they date young women. And some men prefer actually dating (not just having sex with) young women. Seems to depend on the man... which is why all of these men I posted pictures of here, who could *easily* get any hot young girl that they want to get, are instead with older women. I'm sure they're getting some kind of benefits :)

[Twalli]

If you are aiming for kids, it needs to be younger women, because men are fertile far longer

[Asker]

Fertile, but the quality of sperm decays just like women's eggs do. Decaying sperm cause fertility issues and birth defects - check out the research linked in my post. Science is pretty clear on this.

[Twalli]

I agree, but once a woman reaches menopause she's done. Technically a guy isn't done until death.

[Asker]

Right, but science says he should be done not too long after women because of fertility and birth defects. Aging sperm are decaying, the quality has gone down and risks increase. So it makes sense for older women who want kids to take bets on younger men, vs men whose sperm would make their reproductive odds even more risky.

[Zolly99999]

I have found a lot of older women have low sex drives or none at all..

[JesseJayNeak]

Doesn't make sense

[Asker]

What doesn't make sense?

[JesseJayNeak]

The evolution part

[Asker]

Well... "Evolutionary" means: relating to or denoting the process by which different kinds of living organisms are believed to have developed from earlier forms; relating to the gradual development of something It's basically how humans have evolved over time. The result being how we exist today. If scientific research shows that women's sex drive increases with age, up to a point, then that is the result of human development (evolution) for the "female" side of the species. Women have literally evolved to be humans whose sex drive/libido/sexual activity increase as they age, especially in 30s and 40s. It declines again at some point, but men in comparison don't increase in sex drive/libido as they age - they decline from teenage years and then reach a stable point for a while, from what I've read. Evolution up to this point in human history brought us to our physical realities - including sex drive. If one half of the species (older woman) has sex drive that shoots up during a certain period of their lives, while another side (older man) isn't increasing, one could say that her sex drive might better match a younger man who is still in his sexual prime, has more stamina, no erectile issues, more energy, etc. Likewise, evolution has lead us to the current stage of aging fertility. We have evolved into a species where women fertility dries up. Only now, science shows (in the link I shared in my post) that while men can have children older, they probably shouldn't because their sperm decay and cause fertility issues and birth defects. So, two old people are likely going to have double the risks (could still have a healthy baby though! happens all the time) compared to one older person and one younger person, with healthier sperm or eggs. For a long time people have accepted this when it comes to women, but science is also very clear that men have very high risks of the same nature as they age.

[JesseJayNeak]

The fact that young men choose women older than them it's not evolution. It's adaption. There's nothing evolutionary about dating "outside the age"

[Asker]

The evolutionary part is about sex drive through age and decaying sperm / eggs. The dating part is a social reality that may be driven by some aspects of evolution. If super horny single women want to bang younger men because of said sex drive increase, for example. It's not the ONLY reason, but evolutionary drives probably exist behind most of our actions, if not everything.

[JesseJayNeak]

That's not evolutionary. Not even close

[Asker]

I'm just saying, men probably don't understand but... lack of erectile dysfunction, no need for viagra, more energy and stamina, more enthusiasm in general, and a full head of hair can do a lot for women sexually lol This isn't something I made up in 2021. These are as driven by evolution as menopause. Men get older and there are some good things and some not so great things that an older woman who wants to have fun could do without for an extra 10 years or so. If they click and get on well, bring on a relationship! People always talk about young girls, but young guys are also very attractive. This is also evolution and in probably the same ways that young women's appearance indicates peak fertility. Evolution.

[JesseJayNeak]

Yes, young guys prefer younger girls. End of story

[JesseJayNeak]

An increase of libido and decrease of fertility is not evolution. It's a warning call to the body

[Asker]

If it's end of story, then why are all these men dating or married to older women? Seems like a case of "not end of story" then lol All of my friends and I have had young guys trying to get with us, for both sex and romantic relationships.

[Asker]

Both are part of evolution by definition.

[JesseJayNeak]

Because they have no chance with younger women so they had to adapt

[Asker]

Let me get this straight - handsome, rich men have no chance with young women? Princes? Presidents? Soccer stars? They have no chance with young women, so they are dating older women? That makes logical sense to you?

[JesseJayNeak]

Adaption = a gradual change of an individual determined situation Evolution = an increase of overall growth A women in her 30s doesn't evolve. A higher libido is not a sign of evolution, it's actually the opposite

[Asker]

You're confused my dear. I never said the woman in her 30s is evolving. I said humanity has evolved to the point where women's sex drive increases with age. Those are two very different statements.

[JesseJayNeak]

That's not evolution.

[JesseJayNeak]

And a higher sex drive in older women is not evolution either

[Asker]

"It isn't true" is not an actual argument, and definitely not sound logic based on evidence you've provided. If that's all you've got, then we can just agree to disagree.

[Asker]

I am curious about your answer to my question - why do you think handsome, rich, powerful men choose to date older women if you believe that only men who can't get young women do so?

[JesseJayNeak]

What's so "evolutionary" of settling down for lower standards? Or having a less fertile mate? Nothing

[Asker]

Again, no real argument or sound logic being presented here. lol I'm a facts girl. Anything else is just background noise in a conversation like this.

[JesseJayNeak]

And your argument makes no sense whatsoever. At least, I have a point

[Asker]

You're delusional if you think you've argued any point half as well as I have, to be honest. I sense a lack of education, which is probably to blame so it may not be your fault, but just saying.

[Asker]

I am curious about your answer to my question - why do you think handsome, rich, powerful men choose to date older women if you believe that only men who can't get young women do so?

[JesseJayNeak]

Give me an example in the animal kingdom where young guns of any species goes after a female specimen with decreasing fertility?

[JesseJayNeak]

If doesn't work like that in nature what makes you think it will work on the human being?

[Asker]

Are you going to answer my question? I can post it again if you missed the last two times: I am curious about your answer to my question - why do you think handsome, rich, powerful men choose to date older women if you believe that only men who can't get young women do so?

[JesseJayNeak]

Meghan is known for being a sociopath and took Harry away from his family. President Macron did it to acquire importance. Shakira is a superstar and Nick Jonas wasn't always attracted to older women. So, basically it has nothing to do with love nor evolution

[Asker]

You said only men who can't get younger women would date older women. So my question wasn't about who had what job or who is an alleged sociopath (lol). My question is a follow up to your logic. If its true that "only" men who can't get younger women date older women, then that would suggest that none of these men can get younger women. I'm asking you how that makes sense, given that all of them could easily get almost any woman alive. I'm focused on your logic/argument. Stay focused. How does your logic make sense given these relationships?

[JesseJayNeak]

It's nature way. Young guns are always known to be picky. The best genes don't come with age. They come with prime. A woman in her 30s is past that

[JesseJayNeak]

Also, it does make sense. Men change their options when they get refused a lot or adapt for something else. It's Mother Nature's way

[Asker]

So then are you telling me that you think all of these men who are good looking, wealthy, and powerful are being refused by most younger women? Does that really make sense to you? Men are valued for money and power. These men have more of that than most men alive. How does it make sense that they are being refused or rejected by most young women?

[JesseJayNeak]

Not in this day and age where marriage is not as valued anymore. What's the point?

[Asker]

I'll repeat the question: Do you think wealthy, handsome, powerful men (the men listed here) lack options to be with younger women? If so, how would that work logically, as women flock to handsome, powerful, wealthy men. I'm curious about your logical reasoning on this point. How would these men lack options to be with young women?

[JesseJayNeak]

Yes, having money and power doesn't necessarily mean that you'll be attractive (surgery doesn't change who you are). And people in decline tend to have lower options.

[JesseJayNeak]

Also, there's nothing beneficial of having offspring with someone past their prime

[Asker]

Also, I think most of these couples are married. Nick and Priyanka are married. Megan and Harry are married. President Macron and Brigitte are married. Gabrille and Dwayne are married. Shakira and Gerard aren't married but have been together for 10 years and have 2 kids. There are other examples as well, like Hugh Jackman (Wolverine! lol) - his wife is 13 years older.

[JesseJayNeak]

Harry is not happy. Macron did for power. Dwayne was almost finessed and had to change target

[Asker]

But women value money and power in partners. I've never heard a man imply that women don't highly value those things. Most men know that women do and see how many women like older men because they have more money and resources. I'm getting that "delusional" vibe from you again, if you're actually arguing that presidents, princes, atheletes and wealthy men don't have plenty of options to be with tons of young women. I will double check - is that actually what you're saying? That Prince Harry, Nick Jonas, and Gerard don't have tons of young women who want to be with them? That is President Macron, the actual fucking *president of France* was single, he would hard a hard time getting young girls... you're actually standing by this argument?

[Asker]

There are a lot of benefits in having a child with an older woman, just not as many biological ones.

[JesseJayNeak]

Since when it's beneficial having a child with someone in her decline? With higher risks and less fertile eggs and a much harder time? You're the one being delusional

[JesseJayNeak]

Having a higher libido in your 30s is not evolution. It's a warning sign

[Asker]

It sounds like you're just trying to grasp for situational facts to explain what your logic can't explain - that many men who have way more options than you or any other man have chosen to date older women.

[JesseJayNeak]

It's clear that you're trying to brag about something so unimpressive and trivial. Like, there's nothing to brag about settling for lower standards

[Asker]

I said there are many benefits, just not as many biological ones. Older women are usually more mature, less stressed out, more financial stable, in higher quality relationships, etc. Older women who have learned important lessons in life can better teach young children than someone who is still figuring it out. A lot of damage comes from inexperienced, young people who are really still figuring out life themselves. I think parenting in general is probably better/easier emotionally, financially, and in terms of the quality of relationships when you're older. Biology is the main disadvantage.

[JesseJayNeak]

Well, those are not advantages. There's nothing advantageous about settling for a less challenging life with a lower quality partner

[JesseJayNeak]

And their biology is also a big factor

[Asker]

Those are not advantages? lol You really are delusional.

[JesseJayNeak]

Holding yourself back so that your partner can keep up with instead of letting it loose with a partner that can actually keep up with you is not an advantage. It's a disadvantage

[Asker]

Holding yourself back how? If these men are choosing them over young women and marrying them, I doubt they feel they're holding themselves back lolol

[Asker]

Some other men who, by your logic, "have no other options but to date an older woman":

Chris Hemsworth is married to a woman 7 years older in her 40s. Thor has noooo options to date young girls so he was forced to marry an old woman! Makes sense!
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Jason Momoa, who is not only handsome in a super rugged way but huge and wealthy, is married to Lisa Bonet, who is 12 years older than he is


Ryan Gosling has no options to date young girls, nooo... he couldn't possibly have a harem of women ready to jump on it at any given time, nah... no options! He has been dating Eva Mendes for 10 years and she's 7 years older than he is.


Ashton Kutcher has no options with young women, nah
He was forced to date Demi, who is 16 years older than he is and stay married to her for 8 years because he had no options for those 8 years

😂😂😂

[JesseJayNeak]

Yeah, some do that. Most don't. Why should someone lower his standards? Since older woman = lower standards

[JesseJayNeak]

And again this is not evolution. Not even close

[JesseJayNeak]

And lastly you posted celebrities, not common people. Which means that your "evolution" theory has nothing to do with any of that since only a small part of the population is willing to do so

[JesseJayNeak]

Trying to brag about a celebrity trend is not a true achievement because celebrities don't represent the whole population

[Asker]

You're not bringing any kind of strong logic, just saying things lol "Lower standards" is subjective. If a man prefers an older woman and can get younger women easily, there's no real reason to go for older women. He has to be getting something from them/her that he isn't getting elsewhere, especially to marry. I've heard a lot of older men say they can't stand dating younger women for anything more than sex. It really depends on the guy and what kind of connection/caliber of relationship stimulates him. And of course, the women in question, older or younger. There are trends though, of what you gain from age that just isn't there with youth for most people. But certainly not everyone. If those are the same exact things the guy is looking for, the younger woman isn't going to be his cup of tea for an actual relationship and certainly not to be the mother of his children. And no one is bragging, I'm just adding even more evidence as to why your logic isn't sound. You've made sweeping statements that are more emotional reasoning/assumption than solid logical reasoning. You specifically said *ONLY* men who can't get younger women would date/marry older women. I've shown you multiple examples of men who have more options than most men who do just that.

[JesseJayNeak]

Neither are you since you're just trying to explain your taste in younger inexperienced men. Just because it's a popular trend with politicians and celebrities alike it doesn't mean that regular people are gonna follow

[JesseJayNeak]

And yes, you're speaking as if it's something to brag about

[JesseJayNeak]

And lastly it's not evolution

[Asker]

And finally, celebrities are the most appropriate examples for two reasons, in my opinion. 1. If a lot of men who have THE MOST ACCESS to young women are stomping on your argument, then it's the most effective example against your argument. If your statement was true, then all men who have the most access to women would be following your logic. Your logic is based on the idea that the men with the most access will only date young women - clearly this isn't true. So it's a great example, more effective than using average guys, many of whom do the exact same thing. 2. You don't know the same "common people" I know. "I see this all the time" could easily be refuted by you with "I never see this." We need more objectively observable examples - like celebrities, politicians, well known wealthy figures. Using common people is only effective if we're in person talking to people we can both evaluate as attractive/not attractive, who has access/wealth and who doesn't, etc. It's also largely regional as well. In some countries/cities, things look very different. Your profile says you live in Italy. I live in New York City. Large American cities might be very different than Italy, which I would guess may still be more traditional than we are and may even have more age gap relationships. I've heard from some Italian women how different gender/dating can be in Italy and I lived in Europe for a little bit, so I would definitely assume that my reality in big American cities is different from yours.

[JesseJayNeak]

Celebrities are not relatable people. If they were, everybody would have been a celebrity. There's nothing to brag about a trend

[Asker]

In fact, I'm thinking this might be a point we can agree on, do you think? Can you agree that regional differences could play a role in this as well?

[JesseJayNeak]

Yes, it does.

[Asker]

We agree on something! Yaaaay! Common Ground :)

[Anonymous]

I think it is hilarious when that younger guy drops the crusty old sea hag for a young girl.

[Asker]

But why have all these men pictured in the post not dropped their crusty sea hags for young girls? Also, do you have any actual critical thoughts about the research/data I mentioned or nah?

[Opinion Owner]

research data? Old women are useless for very long. The most attractive ones get a little longer before they are discarded for the newer better models

[Opinion Owner]

You posted a handful of rich and famous women but in the real world 90% of women are discarded as useless dried up maids. 10% may extend their life a little longer but in the end they will all get old and ugly. Chances are that you will be one of the ugly ones too

[Asker]

Do you have data and research that supports your numbers? And yes, I linked articles explaining the research behind the points I made. I'm all about logical reasoning and discussion. Your little emotional rants and aggressive language aren't doing anything here, but if you want to discuss the dataI introduced like an adult, I'm all for it. My opinion (and actual reality) seems very different than what men on GaG seem to think. I think when older women actually want to do date, they're usually fine up until maybe 60s. Some older women aren't even interested in dating though, so that's one factor. But when they are, older men still date older women and age gap relationships with older women seem to be on the rise to me, at least in major cities I've lived in. But let's look at most age gap couples with older men - most don't get anywhere close to marriage, are just fun/sexual, and have incredibly high divorce rates. So let's look at fun/sex as well. Cougars are becoming more and more popular, so women in their 40s-50s+ who want casual sex can get it pretty easily. I find this narrative of women reaching an expiration date so fascinating because it seems so incredibly false compared to reality. Women have far more access to casual sex. Women will have more access to sex for most of our lives than men. Cougars have like infinitely more options to enjoy sexual relationships with both older men and younger men than older men have with any group of women. (and sometimes relationships, but that is definitely a different ball game)

[Asker]

Meanwhile, men have to figure out how to play games to hunt for women, just for sex. Most young women are not interested in even enjoying casual sex with most older men. Most women in their 40s-60s, have 100x more options to play around with younger men, older men, men the same age. This isn't even really a competition in 2021. Mostly really conservative, old fashioned countries/areas have women with an expiration date and tons of age gap relationships with older men in successful marriages.

[Anonymous]

younger men only date older because they can't get women their age or they cucks like dwayne wade

[Asker]

But... Dwayne Wade could get more young women than most men though lol I'm really curious about why you think that. I've had super hot young guys be into me and then get mad when I tell them they're too young. One guy called me ageist lol My mom had guys in my high school and college classes hitting on her. It's really very common tbh. This sounds like an emotional thing - something you want to believe but don't have sound logic or evidence to back it up. We know young women are the most lusted after, but it's far from dry season for a long time, in my experience and from what I've seen. If my mom wasn't married, she could still pull young guys and she's in her 50s. It's really not that hard to have sex with men of any age until women are super old and even then, there's a market for it lol Relationships are just becoming more common and more accepted, which is why I think you see more and more celebrities dating older women. Back to logic/evidence - I really don't get the *only men who don't have options argument.* In real life, all kinds of guys date older women, even if they are a minority of men. A lot of them are very attractive. My pictures are examples - Presidents, princes, wealthy athletes, wealthy men period, famous boy band singers... all of these men are considered more in demand than 99.9% of men alive and they still date older women. Not just date for a week - long term relationships and marriages. How do you explain that with your logic? Men are commonly valued for wealth, financial status, etc. Even ugly, wealthy men automatically have a lot of access to women than most normal men. None of these men are ugly (far from it actually and they have money and status coming out of their asses). Could literally get women of any age. How does your opinion make logical sense then?

[Opinion Owner]

Dwayne wade is gay. garbielle is his beard. plus she emsuclaute him

[Opinion Owner]

are u black

[Slim57]

You're the one who sounds like a cuck. It's extremely easier to get women your own age or younger than it is for an older mature woman who actually knows what she wants in dating unlike these younger women

[Opinion Owner]

@Slim57 hit dog hollers. You dating your mom and grandma having ass

[Asker]

@Slim57 lol That's the funniest part about some of these guys here. They want to spin this narrative that dating young women is so hard. I think dating may be hard for men in general, so there's that, but dating little 20 year olds is much easier. Unless, you don't enjoy their company, then it's easier+more painful, but that depends on the guy. Older women have much more likely to have higher standards, not as susceptible to games, have learned through experience, etc. That's secretly one of the reasons many men prefer them young though ;)