




agreed. plus, some trans girls make it unsafe, as well. i've never been in this situation--but i've seen how some bash the same men who are interested in them.
@Sabretooth Unsafe as unsafe in sex? They bash men who are interested in them? That's weird and stupid.
unsafe in that they bash those interested in them. call them fetishists and chasers--like here: https://youtu.be/9UoiQyk054o?t=170 . another video was one just going off on a tare... full of hate--i'll try and find it, later. such ignore the number one driving factor of humans... curiosity. as i said--i used to view them as freaks--i only started to change my view because i started to fetishize them which, in turn, made me humanize them.
@Sabretooth I see what you mean. That's not cool, but it's also true that some straight guys are not genuinely interested in transgender women. Some have a fetish. So they don't believe they actually like them.
I can tell that she's transgender.
i truly understand that... but it's not an excuse for just attacking men who show any interest in them. are you a cis or a trans girl?
but still. the point that they aren't special in that regard... no gender is. hell, men are essentially seen as mechanical god... and i mean that in all the worst ways.
@Sabretooth Well you're a man and you're saying those things about men. It's surprising...
@Sabretooth Yes it is. And it's one of the reasons why we have some many problems that have to do with gender.
agreed. we're all fetishized in some way. but i think that men get it the worst. as men, we have high expectations that as humans, we can't always follow-how can we provide if we're physically unable to do so? or our job goes under? or an incident forces a shutdown? or, what if a disaster hits and our job can't cover it? i've clashed with Wowgirl on the issue numerous times (she played the victim and blocked me). we also feel like you as well. see why i phrased us as being viewed as mechanical gods?
@Sabretooth Well I wouldn't say that men get the worst but I see where you're coming from. There are some high expectations about men. And some things that men learn as little boys that are wrong and toxic. I'm sorry to hear that she blocked you.
i mean, i get it--our responsibility is to to lead, support and, protect our family but we will fall short at times. we do the best we can but we can't control everything. it's one of the reasons god made you--to help.
step in when and where we can't. i'm old fashioned... there are things that need to be reexamined.
@Sabretooth You're free to have your opinions. I'm just standing up for what I believe.
i don't disagree. i mean, relationships have declined over the years due to radical changes. but again, somethings need to be reexamined.
I saw this thread and I just wanted to clarify something just a tiny bit.
I've had friends who have dealt with this, one in particular, and the way it was explained to me (because I had the same questions too) is this:
If you find a transgendered person cute/sexy or whatever as a man/woman/etc then that is a-ok.
If you find a transgendered person attractive specifically because they are trans and the only reason you are dating them is for a soft entry to bisexuality then that is not only vile but also makes you a chaser.
Hope that clears it up a bit.
@Sabretooth I agree with you about the decline of relationships.
@Ez-Bri-Z You got some good points.
Thanks for the update. I honestly forgot about the video. Yeah, sounds like I was spot on.
though, i do think most men with trans girls would be curious... that's honestly just human nature... unfortunately, that's also a minefield.
@Sabretooth Yeah they could be curious but once they find out they're trans, they lose interest. Some even feel disgusted.
it's a unique situation which offers a unique mindset. curiosity is a driving force for humans and animals.
though, i do think most men with trans girls would be curious in their dick... that's honestly just human nature... unfortunately, that's also a minefield.
Well, trans just isn't just male to female, female to male (which really this group especially needs more representation), nonbinary, gender fluid and more.
Besides that clearly won't matter if that person isn't even comfortable using their biological sex features anyway. There is also the matter of those who choose to go through GRS.
Iunno, I think that it is very possible that its just a matter of falling in love with a person regardless, but I also like to try and believe in the best of people 😊
@Sabretooth That's true.
@Ez-Bri-Z "Iunno, I think that it is very possible that its just a matter of falling in love with a person regardless, but I also like to try and believe in the best of people" - I think it's not that simple, but I get your point.
@Ez-Bri-Z i've noticed those who grow comfortable with it are a lot happier and those who don't are so bitter they'll outright attack them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZAtXvGHDhA&t=1s look for the comment made by
Diana Salameh.
Lol its a long video but she is really funny and those cuts are amazing.
That comment must be buried because I didn't see it when scrolling.
@Sabretooth Looks like Dianah there isn't comfortable with it. I mean, who are we to say which is right or wrong? I guess in the end as long as they are comfortable with themselves and their partner is too then it is fine. I don't think it makes either of them less of a woman, they just experience it in different ways.
@Ez-Bri-Z seemed like she was bitter, to me. that's just one case-i saw another post about this same issue. again from what i can tell, people like Shannyn tend to be happier but get scorned by people like Dianah.
@Ez-Bri-Z Shannyn was originally not all that into it, either--most aren't but become happier and less burdened.
@Ez-Bri-Z it is. from what i can tell--it's largely due to social pressure. plus, you may never enjoy sex after the operation, anyway. my interest starting in sex games and it helped me to shape an opinion of them. Shannyn forced herself to accept that men who are trans attracted wanted to experience these things. this is a direct quote: '' I think that is the norm for trans-attracted men. When a man makes sexual advances towards me, it is much more likely that he wants to be submissive than not. Whether or not this is always a manifestation of autogynephilia isn't clear to me, but I believe it usually is. If I may get a little personal, I have to admit that it's always kind of been a turn off for me when a man wants to bottom or is interested in my penis, but I am learning to rethink my feelings about that. I think it's perfectly natural for trans attracted men to enjoy bottoming, so it's something I'm learning to accept.''.
Seriously this is why I dont judge people for their sexual fantasies and acts as long as all parties are accepting adults.
We all have stuff we like and for someone to deny it is wrong, but i do think someone who can see only that part of a transwoman who isn't ok with it is being rude to her.
@ez-bri-zZ honest i judge a few that are like rape play. ly, i think they need to be viewed as a fetish. i used to see em as freaks, then, sex objects... now, i can speak to em like any other girl. trans girls shouldn't condone or promote it... just not bash men for doing it.
I think in the end its more about being more than the sum of a part.
I understand that as a woman there are just going to be guys who will look at me for certain attributes, but im more than just tits or ass. Those who take the time to know me see that I can be really funny too which is fairly easy to do since my tits aren't very big to begin with and they have plenty of time to make it up to seeing my personality.
@Ez-Bri-Z but that's the problem, most men aren't given the chance to get to know them. i saw another vid that must've been taken down... she was just hating on guys who are trans attracted. let's forget about being interested in new experiences... the attacks and hate would make me feel unsafe to confide in her with anything.
I guess that's fair. It might be the same kind of defensiveness women experience when guys approach, especially if it happens a lot and they weren't there for being hit on. I know that is a bit unfair to guys, but when it happens so often you kinda just develop a perimeter that is harder to get past if you are like the 5th guy that week
@Ez-Bri-Z i can understand that. at the same time, however, you risk losing out on the right one.
Maybe or just avoid five bad ones. It is sort of a crapshoot and unfortunately there are a lot of guys full of crap and they shoot themselves in the foot and make it harder for the right one to have a chance.
@Ez-Bri-Z same with women, as well--as i told menina--you're not special... cis or trans.
stumbled on this awhile back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW1yYQIZJes . this is the best view on the issue.
i randomly started thinking about something Stef said... i remembered her saying guys say that trans girls who get srs are ruining theit body. i'd never go that far... but i started thinking about it... kinda makes sense if you consider what srs gives them. random thought i wanted to unload.
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What's Your Opinion? Sign Up Now!used to view em as freaks. a few years ago, i viewed them as a fetish i wouldn't be with in rl. now, i've spoken to a few and flirted with one.. started great but that went bad after i revealed my religion.
just saying how i grew to accept them. many trans girls hurt themselves by attacking men who show interest in them.
thanks. i've met a few more fairer minded of men and human nature. a lot have a problem with men showing interest in their dick--but that's ''human nature'' part. curiosity is a guiding force for us and they open the mind to things you normally wouldn't be interested in. i've noticed that trans who grow more comfortable tent to be much happier than those who get srs.
''tend''. here's a sex game that actually helped me revise my previous thoughts on the issue: f95zone.to/.../page-701#post-3496487 . i'm a very stubborn man... but even before... i couldn't argue with these facts: www.youtube.com/watch
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