If you were given only one option for survival - hemicorporectomy (removal of everything below your bellybutton) would you consent to it?

Loren after necessary catastrophic surgery
Loren after necessary catastrophic surgery
Loren (18) was asked this question after a forklift fell on him and crushed everything from his pelvis down.

He said he didn’t care if he is a head on a plate, he chooses life. When you feel down about your sex life, think about Loren, he doesn’t even have his sexual organs anymore. Or legs. Or his right hand. And he is still living his life to the fullest. Even recently getting married.
Loren with his wife Sabia
Loren with his wife Sabia
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  • No, honestly I've had such an amazing life already I could die tomorrow and not be bummed about it. I think that's great he's going to keep on and have a nice life, but for me

    1. It's not that important to just be alive for living's sake.
    2. A lot of what I enjoy in life is focused on my physical ability to be independent of others, do a lot of athletic things and challenges for my body with all the functioning parts. I get it that there are people with no arms and legs who still go snowboarding or waterskiing or whatever, but I'm just not into it.
    3. I would feel like a burden. It's very sweet he has a loving wife who is helping him get into the device and chair and making food for him. But I would feel very much a burden both physically needing someone to help me with things like that and also financially I'd rather leave some wealth to my family than have it eaten up by medical expenses.

    I would of course think of my friends and family being bummed out by me not being around, but hey sorry y'all that's part of life and y'all will go on to do great things without me. Hopefully it was nice knowing me, and you can the memory of me for inspiration.

    • I cannot fault you for any of that. Thank you for sharing.

  • I'm not opposed to moving forward with my next life.

    • This happened a year before I was stationed in Texas. Ft Hood. Home of lots of tanks. I guy was about to climb down from his tank. Another tank was backing up next to him. Accidents happen. The moving tank crushed the guy climbing down. He was trapped, crushed from the waist down. He cried out, they stopped the tank. They realized that his pelvis was crushed completely. They realized that if they moved the tank he'd bleed out internally. There was no way to save him. They told the commander. He sent someone immediately to go get his wife and kid while he notified higher command and the chaplain. His wife and boy were able to see him before he died. He was in a lot of pain and was fading out. But he got to say goodbye. He passed out, they moved the tank and he lost all blood pressure and died on the spot. It was tragic. I usually don't like officers but that one Captain. He thought quick on his feet and minimized the tragedy the best he could. It's not the same situation. That soldier had no choice. I just wanted to share.

    • That is a really sad, but moving story. Thank you for sharing.

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  • Wow life can definitely be difficult when you dont have function of your limbs can be hard to feel if life is worth it but he lost all his! Wow im speechless and in awe! I hate having to need help sometimes when other times I can do it myself but he lost 3 of the 4 of his limbs he's an example... I want to find more about him!

    • I fell down a youtube rabbit hole when I found his channel. I am moved by his zest for life, his courage, his determination, his triumph over adversity, his positive additude, his relationship with his wife. And he has no PTSD, depression or anxiety! Really inspirational!

  • I wouldn't tote his getting married too much as sex is important in a marriage according to people on GaG. He can't do much and possibly can't even get horny. I' wondering how long that will last. Now speaking for myself I don't think I could live that way. I mean I wouldn't have had the chance to even kiss my ass goodbye.

    • He can still finger her.

    • They had been living together for a year before his accident. Sounds like true love to me. He has a testosterone patch. My guess is he probably has new erogenous zones like his neck or nipples. I agree with @juxtapose and would go a couple further and say he’s still got his tongue. And sex toys are an option too.

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  • Knowing that guy is perfectly happy and getting married with no legs no dick and one hand honestly doesn't help.

    Hell no. I'm miserable now. I would thank God for dropping the fork lift on me and tell them to send me out on some serious pain meds or psycadelics.

    But I'd try to apply for life insurance first and leave it all to my cat.

    • Lucky kitty!

    • Hardly. They will rob her the same as they rob me. Only difference is she can't even try to talk about it.

    • Who will?

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  • Wow. Great for him. I am not sure I am strong enough to fight for life like that. Hope to God I never have to find out.

    • Me too! I would give it my all tho.

  • To EACH their own. In FAR BETTER circumstances, facing 'groundhog day' circumstances after the FIFTH repetition, I prayed choosing self-euthanasia
    unless my Maker cared to share future utility~ It took 7 years but I played a key role in saving a young woman's life from international human trafficking.

    • I am glad to hear you found purpose in your life and helped someone.

  • I'm going to bed but I'm going to say do it now I'm not that broken that I can't handle anyting are pretend that I can't handle anything or thinking I can't handle a babe I'm the type of person that I don't give a fuk if something happens to me and I have to make a choice whether to live or live without I'm going to live without because somewhere down the road I'm going to find the lesson in it and I'm going to overcome it and be a bigger better stronger person for it and have inside to help other people with it

  • I wouldn't want to live, totally incapacitated, like that. Leave me by the pool, in the wheelchair, but "forget" the brake! It would be an "Accident"!

    • I have to say I appreciate his zest for life

  • I would say yes... it's kind of a promise, and also a conviction now.

    • The survival instinct is an amazing thing.

  • I would not.. I am very active and need my freedom I couldn't rot in a chair. And anyone that knew and loved me would also know and respect that I COULD not love like that.
    Nor would I want my children to see me like that... cry for me daily.. no thanks.
    Remember me as lively and spunky with a big smile on my face. Not like this poor guy.
    Power to him. Many people couldn't.

    • I am inspired by his zest for life! And positive additude.

    • For sure and that's awesome.. . but I still could do it. I'd be miserable and make eveyone else miserable... wouldn't be me

    • *couldn't *

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  • Yes, I would choose to live then adapt. Everything happens for a reason. That being said, I'm glad this didn't happen to me.

    • I think I have to agree with you on all accounts here.

  • I probably would

  • That would b rough but he is a survivor

  • I think I would decline the surgery. I don’t know how I would get by in that condition.

    • It’s a really tough decision. My kids give me pause.

    • I could understand that. For me, I’m pretty sure nobody would hire me and I would have no way for me to pay for my care. If I die, there would be an insurance payout.

    • I suppose that is true. They got a sizable sum from workmans comp and seem to be profiting off ads on their youtube channel. I would not be surprised if he becomes a motivational speaker.

  • I agree with him. Glad he's doing well too that must be tough to have to do.

    • I agree! What a tough decision to make at first they asked his mom to make it and she couldn’t. She didn’t want him to wake up and hate her. Bur didn’t want to feel like she killed her son either. I am glad they were able to wake him up and ask him.

    • Oh shit that would be even harder to make for someone else. Yeah good they could asked him. And damn at 18 wtf do most people know at 18 and having to decide that. Reminds me of that kid who got his arms ripped off and called 911. I wish those kind of things were more uncommon than they already are especially kids.

    • I saw that rescue 911 episode!!!

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  • If it was just my penis, testicles, and scrotum I would willingly give them up. Other than that, probably not.

  • At first pass I would say no because do not think it is much of a quality of life but I recognize that people have an amazing survival instinct and would go to incredible lengths to stay alive. And who knows, maybe in the near future you will be able to enter a virtual world where your physical body is of no consequence.

    • Really good point! Can you believe he has no PTSD, depression or anxiety? His wife has PTSD.

    • Some people have an amazing resiliency. I had a friend that had a muscular disease similar to polio, had kidney disease and eventually a transplant and all kinds of other maladies. To top things off , his college girlfriend went to Hawaii for a vacation and was riding a bike and was killed by a car. He never let any of this slow him down. He was always up for anything.

    • Absolutely amazing and inspiring. Makes one wonder…

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  • Tough one probably not

    • @karaspara the only thing that gives me pause is my kids.

    • Yeah that's the only thing for me as well

  • I'm sure the Marine that I took out of the jungle in Vietnam with about that much missing would have said no. Some of these questions are so insensitive.

    • @davetoo I hope you know me well enough now that I never intend to be insensitive. Thank you for all you have done, I never wish to offend you.

    • I'm sorry. You're right. Today was a rough one. This morning I got word that two of my classmates from school. k-12 died. Then I went to a VA appointment for eyes, just a normal check-up and while I was there I met up with a shipmate that was with me in Vietnam. He told me that one of our shipmates crossed the bar, by his own hand. So I've been pretty bummed out. There was a Marine I pulled out of the jungle that had stepped on a landmine, the lower half of his body was just gone. I carried him out on my back. The commentary wasn't your fault. It was my god damn PTSD kicking in.

    • @davetoo I am so sorry. Words cannot express how sad I am for you. ❤️

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  • Why not go all the way 😉

    A summary of my opinion on the subject:

    https://youtu. be/WyK7lX4sk0c

    • Maybe sometime he will get a bionic body

    • His head hovers around, he seems to be enjoying himself. Personally I'm more of a fan of the hexapedal two armed configured. While heavy it's more practical for day to day goings on.

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  • No. Definitely not.

    • Was ist das? 😳 Ich bin gestoert. And what is the deal with the torso guy? He is in hell for torturing the girls?

    • I didn't know you spoke German. LOL, that "Torso guy" is the lead singer of the most iconic metal band in modern history. I can't answer that. It's still open to interpretation. But I think you're kind of on the right track. The videos from this album are all connected You're German, and you've seriously never heard Rammstein/ Till Lindemann before? And you posted a question about the dude that was amputated from the waist down and it reminded me of this video. Maybe if you inject with the same shit that gives me hallucinations like him, I'll pick the first option. But that guy lost his dick too. I have more questions then answers now. And lol. It's SUPPOSED to be disturbing, and this is the CENSORED version. I think your question is more disturbing 'cuz that shit real. I'm gonna have nightmares now.

    • Now that I think about it, I think your hell theory is right. How is it you've never ever heard this band before and came to that conclusion

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  • I'm not sure I'd want to go on like that.

    • Really, really tough decision right? And he was 18!!!

    • It is tough... I wouldn't want to have that decision to make.

    • Nope. Especially not at 18!!! Now I gotta think of my kids. 😢

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