There's currently a clinical trial going on for a male hormonal birth control (taken orally once daily). Currently the side effects reported are similar to that of female birth control, though even the placebo group reported side effects (🙄). Acne, headaches, mild erectile dysfunction, reduced sex drive, tiredness, and weight gain have been some of the experienced side effects.
So far it seems really promising. They're currently studying long term effects and whether it actually suppresses sperm production and ultimately stops it.
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ChrisMaster69Master
+1 y
I would if the girl I was dating had issue with BC and it messed her around.
my main thing about male birth control is guys would lie, ‘oh it’s okay I don’t need a condom, I’m of BC’, the reality is he took one pill 2 years ago and did not bother after that.
A lot of girls are early to mid teens when they go on BC and it covers more than just pregnancy, this means taking it is a large part of a girls life.
A yearly or 6 monthly injection would be better for guys, remembering to take a daily pill….
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Smashingdoozy
+1 y
That is very true
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TheSpaceGnomeGuru
+1 y
Gonna be honest here, if it didn't have side effects and actually stopped sperm production, yes, I'd pop that shit like it was candy (not really but I needed to convey enthusiasm)
But lets be realistic here. Female birth control has failed to work so often that it's pointless (hence even needing male birth control), and controlling 1 or a few eggs is a lot easier than controlling several hundred million sperm.
I don't think it will work, but if it does, and the side effects are health problems like stroke or heart attack, than it's not worth it.
If the side effects aren't hazardous, but include erectile dysfunction or low sex drive, then whats the point? who needs birth control when they either can't or don't want to fuck?
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Smashingdoozy
+1 y
Female birth control stops ovulation all together. So it's not just 1 egg...
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
Also have you looked into the side effects of female birth control?
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
I meant at a time, not like 1 egg over all, in any given ejaculate there are like 75 million sperm... And yeah, some are as bad as outright killing the poor girl with blood clot side effects, shit is scary.
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TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
That said, most moms I know got pregnant while on birth control and taking it correctly.
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
I mean yeah no birth control is 100% effective
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
Well, if a person can only get pregnant once every what, 8-10 months? usually 9? and if something works 99 times out of a hundred, and you do it once a day, then thats 2 days (3 days at most) within that 9 month period where it's gonna fail to work. So at that point, it's still 1 pregancy every 9 months isn't it? So how is 99% effective different from 0% effective in that situation?
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
pregnancy*
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
And my type usually would want it 4 times a day._. Thats 8-12 failures in 9 months...
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
What... That's just how long a pregnancy is. You can get pregnant 5-10 days in every single month.
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
Pretty sure you can't get pregnant while already pregnant..
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
Obviously. But nobody is having babies every single year. Even so you can't really get pregnant right after giving birth. A month later maybe. Less likely if you're breastfeeding.
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
well I did say 8-10, my point was that birth control doesn't lower how often pregnancy can occur.
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
Which is irrelevant. It's used to prevent pregnancy. If taken correctly all the time it's almost 100% effective, but because it can be difficult to take a pill at the same time every single day 9/100 women get pregnant on the pill. 2/100 using condoms.
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
How is that irrelevant? effectiveness is the entire point, I was making the argument that if it's 99% effective when taken properly, it's the same result as not taking it, because you still get pregnant just as often. The failure rates aren't do to missing a pill, 99% effective is measured in clinical trials, where the participants are given the pills on time. And people who take it on time every time still often get pregnant.
kqueen
+1 y
I don't think you understand how clinical studies are done. It's multiple women, and if a women gets pregnant once, that's a failure, not one woman over the course of her life. So if 100 women take it correctly and then 1 gets pregnant that's a 99% failure, and I'd be willing to bet that your friends just weren't taking it consistently enough.
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
Yeah some of the pills are tricky. Especially when you have time changes. Half an hour late could be game over
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
@kqueen They were taking it consistently, but on the topic of the study, why would they only give the pill once? Thats a horrible way to do a study. It would fail to reveal any long term side effects, and it would fail to replicate results while eliminating possible outside factors effecting the results in the same subjects. Plus you can't claim something is less effective based on it not working on 1 person. And by that logic, there would be some kind of test to determine if it wouldn't be effective for a given person if that were how it worked. I've never heard of any such test. I really doubt thats how the study is conducted.
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
to be clear, the way I thought it worked is they take several hundred women, and give them the pill repeatedly over a 1 to 3 year long period.
kqueen
+1 y
OOOOOhhh my god. You don't understand what's going on at all do you lol. You're just gonna have to look up how the study was performed I'm not gonna try and straighten that mess out
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
@kqueen you maide it sound like each woman only gets the pill once.
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
I don't know where he got the pill only taken once thing from 🤨
kqueen
+1 y
i really didn't
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
from "I don't think you understand how clinical studies are done. It's multiple women, and if a women gets pregnant once, that's a failure,"
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
How do you get 1 pill from that...
kqueen
+1 y
for heavens sake just look up how the studies are conducted. All of the methods are public information
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
100 women studied over a course of a year. Taking birth control pill daily on time. 1 out of the 100 women gets pregnant therefore 99% effective. What she said was pretty straight forward 🤣
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
how did she get "1 woman over the coarse of her life" from what I said? I never once implied that.
TheSpaceGnome
+1 y
course* I'm tired.
kqueen
+1 y
I was just trying to be clear about what I was saying lol
TheSpaceGnome
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@kqueen I think we are both too tired tbh, either way I think it's cleared up.
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tatianamayYoda
+1 y
I think condom is safer, but hey, that's just me. For a weird reason, I feel like birth control pills are generally more riskier than condoms. Better to use both condom and birth control pills 🤷♀️
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Smashingdoozy
+1 y
Both is good but they have about the same rate for effectiveness. Pill being 99% effective and condoms 98%
tatianamay
+1 y
Well, yes, both are, but I'm just paranoid. And condoms prevent STDs
EmmaMaryMaster
+1 y
I sincerely apologise for perhaps sounding so sceptical, for just how many of us women could ever really trust a guy to take these religiously ever single day.
Nope and I don't see the reason to do so. I already got snipped.
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Datboi65Xper 7
+1 y
Hell to the no. Remember, men have to quote-on-quote "perform" in the bedroom. A reduced sex drive does not turn girls on, neither does an erectile dysfunction. Either wear a condom, or the girl needs to take a pill, or do both at the same time for extra safety.
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Smashingdoozy
+1 y
Women have to be turned on and happy to have sex. Both things that the female birth control affect. Not to mention the endless list of side effects.
Datboi65
+1 y
Then just ask the dude to wear condoms. Done. no mental gymnastics needed. Other women would be more than happy to take the pill, but if that's not for you, then so be it.
Smashingdoozy
+1 y
I don't take it for birth control
NathanDavisMaster
+1 y
my only problem would be that I actually hate to swallow pills...
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DizzyDesii
+1 y
I would hope you didn't take it. But as a tip for taking pills, either crush it up in your drink. Or stuff it between a piece of cake or candy and chew and swallow. I could always just swallow a pill whole without even eating or drinking anything after. But now my throat feels like its closing up so its hard to swallow these horse size pills the doc gives
NathanDavis
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@DizzyDesii well, I would only do it if absolutely necessary truth is I would rather just go under the knife because I like my hormones as they are
DizzyDesii
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Same. I’d get tubes tied after i have one or two kids
DonkeyDanGuru
+1 y
Yes if the side effects weren't too much with me, although as I'm not really considering kids anymore at my age I am now considering the possibility of getting the snip.
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Kaneki05Master
+1 y
Hmm well if placebos are failing that's not a good sign what happens if we actually give them it? lol
Probably would tho but then again i would rather just have a vasectomy.
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Smashingdoozy
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Lol I don't think people saying they have side effects from a placebo means it's failing. Those people are probably just looking for side effects
Kaneki05
+1 y
Of course it don't mean anything to the actual drug it's self. But imagine giving people who already experience stuff without the drugs then add real drugs it's gonna be a mess, Next thing we know they will be flying on walls.
HighValueGuru
+1 y
It would need to be around at least 20 years first to have a better idea of long term side effects before I would take something. Who knows, it could cause cancer or something like many medicines have done.
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t-8900Yoda
+1 y
No thanks. I work to have peak fertility all the time. If I need to wear a condom so be it. I'm not trying to catch STDs either.
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Fireguy17Guru
+1 y
yes, then I would know that I am covered, and not have to rely on her if she is really telling the truth.
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mike5150Master
+1 y
I wouldn't but if someone else wants to than good for them.
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exitsevenMaster
+1 y
Just the reduced sex drive part will probably do the trick.
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KabluieGuru
+1 y
Yeah, I could see it happening, there is always the gal wanting to get off the pill things, or doesn't want an IUD. In a sense women have always had more options than men, and having more isn't a bad thing, plus more options for condomless sex in the moment.
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Andres77Master
+1 y
I got snipped. Fixed. Done.
I think this birth control should be mandatory if you're on any form of government assistance. Male and female. If you're receiving welfare or government housing and don't have a job... this should be mandatory.
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kqueen
+1 y
what the fuck is wrong with you
Andres77
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@kqueen oh... I'm guessing you're assumings something... please tell me what your assumption is.
kqueen
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I assumed you were saying if you're poor you should be sterilized
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Andres77
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Welfare was designed as a "hand up" to help those fallen on hard times. Race was irrelevant. LIViNG and raising kids (notice I didn't say family... no dads) on perpetual welfare is a national embarrassment. About 39% of blacks and 39% of whites are on welfare. About 15% if Latinos are on welfare. Notice my initial comment didn't say what race. I meant everyone who was a leech. But you assumed I was suggesting a particular race?🤨 If they're looking for a job, fine. If they're sitting around doing nothing for their community but breed poor little kids that deserve better... yeah, they should be made chemically impotent until they get a job and contribute to society and are able to bring kids into a family unit with two parents. But no... let the leeches breed and abort half the babies and give birth to the other half that will grow up without a father and become dependent on the government for their food and shelter until they overdose or get shot or go to prison. WTF is wrong with you for wanting THAT?
kqueen
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where did i say anything about race?
Andres77
+1 y
It took me a while to write that on my phone so I didn't see your response until I sent it. It will never happen but I'd support that move. Assuming it's reversible once an individual was back in the workforce. No breeding if you're not contributing.
kqueen
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wait... so you sent an angry response to me about how I should never make assumptions solely based on an assumption you made about what I was going to say? Honestly regardless of anything else that's probably the funniest thing I've ever heard. I'm putting this on my blog this is amazing
kqueen
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like that really is just an oof my man. Ooooooh my god
kqueen
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AND you had to type that whole ass essay out on your phone. Oooooohhhhh my goooood
Andres77
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@kqueen you started angry. How about you address the issue of perpetual poverty in our nation instead of being trying to ridicule? Of course you won't. You can't. Because you contribute to the problem. You're just as much a parasite as those who choose free poverty. You should be ashamed of yourself but you're too ignorant to know any better.
loveslongnailsMaster
+1 y
No, I'd just get a vasectomy. I don't want kidlets anyway.
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bolverkGuru
+1 y
Possibly, but how many women would trust that a guy was using the male pill? I always used a condom anyway.
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Mark987Yoda
+1 y
Yes as long as they're no side effects
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okeydokeExplorer
+1 y
Probably not, but only because I have a hormone disorder I already take medication for. I’m all for men taking the initiative and getting male birth control.
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kellythemanGuru
+1 y
I guess I try it out. Does a girl come with it lmao. But the only things I don't like is reduce sex drive and erectile dysfunction.
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Still-aliveGuru
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yeah i would. though i wish it came without the weight gain lol
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ChiPaPaGuru
+1 y
Never.
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HuldusonurXper 4
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Sure... but I'd rather just get a vasectomy so I wouldn't have to try to remember taking the pills
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