Do you think male circumcision is a bad thing?

[TashaAmiee]

Bonus Question: - Would you get your son circumcised? Why or why not?

[worldscolide]

It is done without our consent, It is done to us, Forced on us. And yet the only gender that is protected from any kind of genital cutting is women..

Regardless of how you personally feel about the practice of circumcision (I personally find it barbaric, cruel and completely unjustifiable), the legal fact is that infant girls are protected against any genital cutting of any kind and infant boys are not. Many feminists will argue that female genital mutilation (FGM) is a magnitude of brutality beyond male genital mutilation and while that may be true, I do not find the “it’s only a little bit brutal” argument to be very compelling. It’s like saying cutting off a toe is okay because cutting off a foot is much worse. Ultimately, the argument is immaterial to the fact that women have the legal right to be protected from having their body parts sliced off. Men do not.

[Glenn603]

I didn't vote for either because I think it depends on why the circumcision is done. If it's just for vanity then yes I think it's definitely wrong and also if it's for religious reasons. But if it's for medical reasons then I think that is fine.
I don't have any children but if I had a son I wouldn't have him circumcised

[arandomgirlhere]

circumsized penis looks clean and good to suck but after reading some articles about it on Google, I personally feel its abuse to a child. Let the child grow and he can get it done once he is adult due to a personal choice or medical reasons. I don't think I have the right to take a decision about my son's foreskin.

[TashaAmiee]

I respect your choice! I still think circ looks better and is cleaner though. It's much easier to do as a baby so I think its easier to do then

[BeachLuvR97]

As an adult, the foreskin can always be pulled back...

[Gwenhwyfar]

I have no opinion on this. Much like I don’t think guys (other than the father) should get a vote on abortion, I don’t think women should get a vote on circumcision. These are both issues which are unique to the experience of one gender.

[katiesmuff]

Have two sons and both are circumcised, however my husband is not. We made the decision together.

[Tellme]

What reasons made you decide for it?

[katiesmuff]

@Tellme It's simply healthier and easier to keep clean.

[ChrisMaster69]

Yes it’s mutilation of a child often without their consent

[ChrisMaster69]

I seriously cannot believe people are using hygiene as an excuse to mutilate a child. We have modern washing facilities, it’s only hard if you are unable to carry out very very basic washing.

[MCheetah]

Yes. [Please answer why In the comments.]
I don't think it's right to mutilate a male's genitals, especially without his permission. And *especially* for some dumb-ass religious purpose.

[lilyanony1]

Unless my son has a medical issue that requires his foreskin to be removed I will leave him as God made him.

[MrCommodore]

Yes, outside of religious reasons or exceptional medical cases, I don't see why its done.

Uncircumcised men around the world don't have hygiene issues or health issues, there is no medical argument to back it up.

[Shizunk]

It is completely backwards and barbaric. Adults can do all kinds of silly things if they wish, but don't you dare cut a child. I am glad my country doesn't have such stupid tradition.

[summiter]

I am cut and find it is easier to keep clean than what I hear from some of my uncut friends.

[nice-girl]

Yes as there is not reason for that. And no I wouldn't do it to my son

[Apple1996]

It is definitely bad and no I didn't circumcise my boys since that is just unnecessary

[Aiko_E_Lara]

What if they wanted to as a choice? The only thing you're thinking when you say it's bad is because you think you're doing it without their consent but what if they really wanted to? Still bad? www.mayoclinic.org/.../pac-20393550

[Apple1996]

@Aiko_E_Lara if they want it done they can get it done later in life

[Aiko_E_Lara]

it's gonna give them a harder time if they do it as an adult. It's gonna cost more of the insurance and the lost of work time. It's not really gonna affect it's school time if they do it on a summer/winter break. Adults barely get any breaks tho. So yeah they're really gonna miss that chance and the best time to have it done if they turn into an adult.

[Apple1996]

@Aiko_E_Lara if they are comfortable enough with their natural bodies then there is no real reason for them to do it as adults. I'm just saying if they really wanted it for cosmetic reasons then choosing it as a adult is better then their mommy choosing for them

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It's not exactly a "cosmetic" because it also benefit the health and reduce something that may cause a serious issue. If it's nothing more but a "cosmetic" then do we even show off our dicks? Is there even a fashion show showing them off? You don't see dicks everyday tho other than your husband's of course so it's not exactly a cosmetic. Also I never said anything about their mommy's choosing for them but I'm still saying if they wanted it. Not you.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It's not even for it's heath only but it gets even more convenient to wash them properly and it feels a lot cooler which is what they're after.

[LisaAnn34]

Nah, cleaner so easier maintenance and looks better! I say get the snip!

[LisaAnn34]

Answer to bonus question: Yes!

[Celtero]

If you think uncircumcised dicks are unclean vaginas must be absolutely rancid.

[LisaAnn34]

@Celtero Not really comparable, you sound mad lol

[Celtero]

If you wanna talk about what's dirty, there's a reason why women get urinary tract infections 4x the rate men do. There's a reason why cunnilingus is a health hazard that causes throat cancer. There's a reason why 1/5 women has herpes. It's because that hole in between your legs is a haven for all sorts of microbes. But apparently a little flap of skin on the penis is too unhygienic, even though it takes 5 seconds to pull back and thoroughly wash. Can't wash your vagina like that. Why not get mad? Dumb bitches think genital mutilation is cool for stupid reasons. Circumcision was created by Abrahamic religions to prevent boys from masturbating. You don't know shit, and at this point there only reason circumcision is still as popular as it is is because of naive people like yourself spreading around this horseshit.

[ChrisMaster69]

You logged on with wrong account mate. How have you found it easier maintenance? Do you find it easier to wash, rather than a second of pulling back. It’s 2021 we have modern washing facilities.

[Glenn603]

@lisaann34 I'm uncut and mine doesn't take any maintaining to clean it. It only take me a few seconds just to pull my foreskin back, rinse with a bit of water, dry it and then pull my foreskin forwards again and it's job done.

[Astarlessnightsky]

I absolutley wouldn't let my son be circumcised, if they want to they can decide for themselves when they are 18.

[Smashingdoozy]

Yes, it's unecessary and is genital mutilation. The benefits of it are minimal and nothing that can't be taught easily. I would not do it to my son

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"minimal" www.mayoclinic.org/.../pac-20393550 What if it's your son's choice? You still think it's bad?

[Smashingdoozy]

"The risks of not being circumcised, however, are not only rare, but avoidable with proper care of the penis." Then he can make that choice for himself when he is old enough. It's not up to me.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Do you realize it's actually harder to circumcised as a grown up and those risk gets higher? It also takes longer to heal if you do it as an adult, and you're gonna be missing a lot of work time. So yea you just ruined his one chance of getting what he always wanted as a kid. Even if you say it's unnecessary, the plus still stands. The risk of it is not even a permanent but the benefit is.

[Smashingdoozy]

I literally don't care. Kinda weird that you are for genital mutilation and lowered sexual pleasure. But whatever.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Because you think it is "mutation" that's why. Then ok if you don't care you're a terrible mom then go ahead.

[Smashingdoozy]

It's literally the definition of mutilation*

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"inflict a violent and disfiguring injury on." Ok where's the violent part? Don't tell me even if it's an emergency, you won't get your son a surgery because it's "violent" As far as i read about the articles saying it's mutilation, it's talking about infants which i understand but am I even talking about infants here?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Oh yeah this reminds me of a mentality of anti vaxxers actually.

[Smashingdoozy]

Circumcision is generally done on infants. Like you said the older they are the harder it is. This is true even in a 4-10 year olds (heck more traumatic at this age). So yeah we are talking about it being done In infants because that is the most common time it is done. ": an act or instance of destroying, removing, or severely damaging a limb or other body part of a person or animal"

[Smashingdoozy]

Also of course if it was an emergency I would get it done. But in any other circumstance it's cosmetic surgery on a baby. It's stupid.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

That's an assumption to say it's done by infants. When circumcision by itself is just circumcision and nothing to do with infants unless you choose to involve it. And for the record, that's not even cosmetic surgery because dicks are not something you see everyday and cosmetics doesn't do much for health but for appearance which isn't the case of circumcision. And if you wanna say they get trauma for that, you're talking about the exceptions. Maybe you're talking about those who were forced to be circumcised and not by choice. ": an act or instance of destroying, removing, or severely damaging a limb or other body part of a person or animal" <-- you're talking about mutilation here. "Circumcision is the surgical removal of foreskin from a baby's penis. There are several benefits to circumcision, including a lower risk of diseases like urinary tract infections. Older boys and men get circumcised as well. At any age, the circumcised penis usually heals within a week" <-- I searched the meaning of circumcision and there's nothing in there talking about ": an act or instance of destroying, removing, or severely damaging a limb or other body part of a person or animal" It would've been severe if it's an infant you're talking about but still im not talking about infants here.

[Smashingdoozy]

Yeah I know I was talking about mutilation. That is the definition of mutilation. What is circumcision? The removal of part of the body, no? Honestly stop, you're not going to change my mind. If you want to cut your son's dick by all means. But I won't.

[ChrisMaster69]

It’s a society fashion that’s it, nothing else. You rarely find it outside of the US in western countries. Things like showers, knowing how to wash ourselves, really removed the need to physically abuse a child. Fully understandable in countries that have poor hygiene standards and basic stuff is not taught. Anyhow it’s a free world, and it’s not like it’s 2021 and people are still doing 6th century stuff.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Yes you're talking about mutilation and but you're not talking about circumcision. If you ask me what circumcision is, it is circumcision. Simple as that. It's something unique and not even considered as anything else. Just like how you like to over exaggerate it, you're talking about cutting a penis off you're not talking about cutting a foreskin off. You just like to make strawman arguments about it. I don't care if you don't change your mind. I don't change my mind on people like you either so?

[ChrisMaster69]

@Aiko_E_Lara it’s multinationals end of. It’s a Fashion attribute done to a child. Even if it was not mutilation, it is still simply a Fashion thing, Son you are getting this done because it’s pretty 🤦

[Smashingdoozy]

If that's your view point then why are you trying to change my mind? 😂 Bit stupid don't you think 🤔

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@ChrisMaster69 Then it's not mutilation end of. Really easy for you to say. If it really is a fashion, do you even see dicks everyday? Do they even show it off and get compliments if it really is a fashion? Is it even in a fashion show? But even if it's a fashion, it's no different if a girl say she wants to have a piercing then so they have to "mutilate her ears" for fashion with out even any real benefits like circumcision have.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

@smashingdoozy i'm not trying to change your mind but i'm just saying. But if you accuse me of doing it, then i can also say you're trying to change people's minds who really supports circumcision

[Smashingdoozy]

⭕round⭕we⭕go⭕

[Smashingdoozy]

I stated my opinion. You used a mayo clinic article to try to discredit what I said, even though the same article reiterates what I said. I agreed that if a person wants to make that choice when he's old enough then he can. Not sure what I'm trying to convince anyone of other than this is my opinion on the matter. Like i said cut your kids dick if you want. I don't care, but I won't do it to my own.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I stated my opinion and an article to back it up whether you like it or not. Whether you take it or not. Like what I said, be a terrible mom i don't care.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I also agreed if the child don't wanna be circumcised, i would respect that one. So?

[Smashingdoozy]

Again that same article reiterates what I said.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Oh ok if it repeats what you said, how come you're not talking about it's benefits then? Because you don't agree? Well then that didn't really reiterate what you said.

[Smashingdoozy]

Because it explains it all in the very article you sent... Easier hygiene. Circumcision makes it simpler to wash the penis. **However, boys with uncircumcised penises can be taught to wash regularly beneath the foreskin.** Decreased risk of urinary tract infections. **The risk of urinary tract infections in males is low**, but these infections are more common in uncircumcised males. Severe infections early in life can lead to kidney problems later. Decreased risk of sexually transmitted infections. Circumcised men **might** have a lower risk of certain sexually transmitted infections, including HIV. **Still, safe sexual practices remain essential.** Prevention of penile problems. **Occasionally**, the foreskin on an uncircumcised penis can be difficult or impossible to retract (phimosis). This can lead to inflammation of the foreskin or head of the penis. Decreased risk of penile cancer. Although **cancer of the penis is rare** it's less common in circumcised men. In addition, cervical cancer is less common in the female sexual partners of circumcised men

[Aiko_E_Lara]

What still stands is the benefits mentioned in there despite how low you think the odds are of getting any of those cancer or whatever, So yeah you only looked for something to agreed in there. So yeah it's only something you cherry picked which you agreed it which isn't everything the article said which you say it repeated. Also even if they are rare, they're still serious illnesses to be considered "minimal" Also, the article is only talking about health but not even talking about how good it feels being able to clean it so easily which is what your son may also like.

[Smashingdoozy]

I never said the benefits weren't there. They just aren't that substantial. Anyways I'm done with this conversation or whatever you want to call it. Again you get you do you and I'll do me ☺️ ciao

[Aiko_E_Lara]

So that just contradicts what you said about how the article just repeated what you said. So yeah you're not really repeating, you're just cherry picking. Also I did mention about ear piercing which you completely ignored.

[Smashingdoozy]

Me: the benefits of it are minimal and nothing that can't be taught easily Article you posted: the risks of not being circumcised, however, are not only rare, but avoidable with proper care of the penis. Do you understand now or do I need to spell it out more clearly? Ear piercings. I believe should only happen when a person asks for them or gets them on their own Accord. It's about consent.

[DonkeyDan]

I'm circumcised, it's more attractive and is more hygienic, and women seen to like it more. Studies have also confirmed that an uncircumcised man is at higher risk of contracting an STD than a circumcised man.
Yes I would consider getting my son circumcised.

[jshm2]

Being circumcised myself, it has never affected me.

Most people against it, are either ignorant, fearful or victims of their parents cheaping out when getting it done and thus suffering as a result.

[Celtero]

Yes, it's an unnecessary outdated religious practice. You know something's up when the people who practice it the most are in Africa and the Middle East.

[HighValue]

Yes, it is painful and it is wrong to permanently alter someone's body when they are too young to consent or make important decisions. Society shouldn't harm male children like that.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It's not even painful and also, what if it's his choice?

[HighValue]

@Aiko_E_Lara "His choice?" So an infant can make choices now? And why do they scream if it isn't painful? You seriously lack intelligence.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

What i even talking about an infant? You said male children so why does it only mean infant?

[Dargil]

No and I have had no side effects except that girls like giving be a blow job.

[exitseven]

My father had to get circumcized in his 50s. It was not pleasant.

[Anpu23]

I think its a barbaric practice and should be criminalized for children unless medically necessary.

[Alexandrubaschet08]

I will not, i will let the wife to decide.
Personal, i know that jews baptaising or something like that. Olso i don't see any benefices.
Circumcision or not ther is no improve.