What with the craziness regarding spanking, hair pulling, chocking and slapping during sex? Do people really enjoy these and why?

[Anonymous]

[Not_Average]

It can be enjoyable. Some people have a lot primal rage, and to release that in a healthy way during sex can be fulfilling. Also, it's just different. It creates excitement. If you can stimulate adrenaline and sexual arousal simultaneously, it can make for a great orgasm. I'm a big dude, and my wife loves the feeling of being completely dominated by me. It's a primal feeling.

We're all animals at the end of the day, and fulfilling primal desires and urges can feel great. When I'm at the gym, and I get a pump, all thinking shuts down and it's like my body is moving on it's own. There's no thought process. It's just in motion. I feel the testosterone just coursing through my veins and I feel invincible. It feels empowering. In MMA, I get that same feeling. Nothing else matters when you're in the zone. It's a release.

We're civilized and are confined by social norms our entire lives. That feeling of being able to run through a fucking wall is a nice release. It's a feeling of being powerful. Women on the other side love to feel delicate and small in the hands of a strong man. It goes both ways.

If you can implement those primal desires into sex, then it can make for a great experience. After you've been having sex for a couple of a decades, the idea of novelty and adding new ways to stimulate becomes appealing. Spicing things up so to speak.

[Asker]

Stop injecting some pseudo biology in your biased logic.

[Not_Average]

If you disagree, why don’t you break down my logic? Creating an echo chamber in which people only agree with you doesn’t really benefit anyone. If you disagree, and can break down my logic, then it will only reinforce your idea. It expands your mind forcing you to critically think, no? If you’re looking to just rant and have people join you in on that rant, so be it.

[Asker]

I've actually said what was wrong with your logic. Do animals go to school? Do animals work? Do male animals kill children? Absolutely. Is it ok in the animal kingdom? Yes. Is it in our society? No. Do animals kill each other? Yes. It it ok? Yes. Can humans kill each other and go away with it? No. Why? Cause humans are a certain type of animals. Moreover, men always want to talk about animals who have a patriarchal organization and never the other ones... 🤔

[Not_Average]

You said it’s pseudo biology and bused logic. What led you to that conclusion specifically is what I’m asking? I recognize that we are civilized amongst social norms as I said this before. I understand there’s a difference between the phsyce of a dog and a human. Humans are sophisticated, multi faceted, and possess self control. Having said that, we’re not absent of primal urges and desires. Could you agree with that?

[Asker]

How can we know what's female primal urge with all the shame women have to face regarding sex and men with how society validate them through their ability to get women?

[Asker]

Women are biased by patriarchy.

[Not_Average]

We can look at biology. For example, women produce 7x less testosterone than men, and our endocrine system directly impacts our outlook and external social behavior. Women produce much higher levels of estradiol which also impacts all of the above. These hormones directly impact us sexually in monumental ways. There’s a lot of differences when we look into body composition, and and neuroscience as well. Men and women are different, and therefore have a difference in genetic attributes. Considering that, it logically makes sense that we have different roles and expectations within society. To say this is based purely off of a social construct is to deny and render the reality of biological differences null.

www.google.com/.../sex-hormones-and-womanly-passions%3famp

[Asker]

It doesn't make violence acceptable. Biology doesn't make things acceptable. Getting diseases is biology, we still take drugs produced by industry to treat them

[Not_Average]

Violence is punishable by law in most parts of the world. Rough sex between two consenting adults isn’t the same thing. Wouldn’t you say there’s a difference between mugging someone and hurting them and slapping your wife’s ass and pulling her hair during sex?

[Asker]

One looks more like rape than the other.

[Not_Average]

Rape is about consent though. That’s the key word. If my wife likes her hair pulled and her ass slapped during sex, am I raping her?

[Asker]

No. Is it aggression? Yes, absolutely.

[Not_Average]

It is. Did we find some common ground?

[Asker]

At least one.

[ChrisMaster69]

Yes they do.

the why is down to how our brains are wired and how we respond to chemicals produced by the brain in certain situations.

when a person is experiencing pleasure, the brain gets a load of chemicals released, consider these opiates for the brain. They are called Endorphins and these provide a chemical high for the brain.

well that’s why we love to masturbate, have orgasms etc

the thing is, it’s not just pleasure that releases these ‘opiates’ it’s also Pain and Fear. Our bodies when hit with pain will also reduce Endorphins which as a by product reduce pain, also with fear we get the same high.

someone that is in to pain - a masochist, will get turned on by being spanked or needle play or wax play etc, where ever physical pain is present.

Now, you also get emotional pain from degradation, this is name calling, treating badly etc, these things Also do the same opiate thing.

Couple of articles that cover it.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/j5e833/your-brain-on-bdsm-why-getting-spanked-and-tied-up-makes-you-feel-high

https://medium.com/spnkd/altered-states-of-consciousness-in-bdsm-dc1399631fa

https://loftnc.com/home/calendar-of-events/18-blog/175-the-endorphin-levels-in-bdsm-a-short-primer-on-sending-a-submissive-into-hyperspace

[Asker]

No need to explain me what it is. I know.

[ChrisMaster69]

@ asker based of your responses below, am not really sure you fully understand it, or the need and release it gives those receiving it.

[Asker]

I do.

[bones_20]

It’s fun and feels good basically. Except for the hair pulling part, my hair is too important to me.

[Asker]

This is basically violence…

[bones_20]

If the people involved haven’t given their consent, then I agree with that.

[Asker]

Even if they did. It’s violence.

[bones_20]

If you’re not into it then that’s cool. We all have our likes and dislikes and we aren’t all into the same things. Just don’t keep wasting your time worrying about it really.

[Asker]

It wasn’t the point…

[bones_20]

So what is exactly? All I’m seeing is judgement

[MrPickles13]

I hope it's okay for me to reply to your comment. I don't actually understand it either. I understand people like different things. But I think the fact that it's in a way a violent/aggressive act that even with the person's consent someone enjoying it seems confusing If that makes sense. So how is it fun and how does it feel good? If you don't wish to answer that's okay and I understand I really hope I've made sense and haven't said anything wrong and also I want to say in no way am I being judgmental I'm just confused is all.

[bones_20]

Well why do you like the things you like? Because you do. We are all individuals and we all have different likes. What one person loves, another person is going to hate. I find it fun and a major turn on. That’s really all there is to it. I’m sure there’s been things you like and people question it because they don’t like it, but you just gotta move past it and not let it affect your life.

[MrPickles13]

That makes sense yeah, I get what you mean. Its one of those things that no matter how much you try you can't really answer because it's just who you are. Thank you for replying, I appreciate that. I hope I've not offended you or said anything wrong. If I have I'm truly sorry for that.

[bones_20]

Pretty much. Not offended in the slightest. You’re just expressing how you feel and asking a question, that’s completely fine.

[MrPickles13]

Thank you, and yeah I guess your right I always worry I may do that unintentionally as I'm not great socially or with words. So I take the time at least to make sure I'm being okay and that. I probably don't make sense. But thank you. If you have any questions please feel free to ask

[Anonymous]

I hate chocking and slapping. But I love been spanked, it keeps the bedroom alive, at least for me.

[Asker]

You like to be treated like a child?

[Opinion Owner]

Adults deserve spanking too, at least I do.

[Asker]

Weird...

[Opinion Owner]

Not at all...

[Asker]

Of course it is lol You enjoy to be punished like a child. There's something wrong in this...

[Opinion Owner]

Not for me.

[Asker]

You can believe it's ok if you want just like some people believe their imaginary friend is real.

[Opinion Owner]

Okay

[Berethor]

Those ideas come from BDSM.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RomanticizedAbuse

[Asker]

Obviously

[DJaQueef]

I just skip all that and end it with a Cleveland steamer

[slatyb]

Many, maybe most people like to have their hair pulled -- really grasped and some tension applied. No one wants to have their hair grabbed and yanked, and besides it's dangerous.

Spanking is also fairly popular, but not universally enjoyed. People's desires vary from "No!" to "Yes please, and use the flogger / paddle / cane / hairbrush / strap." There are even spanking conventions where people who like to give and people who like to receive gather.

Slapping and choking are pretty extreme. I would have a hard time being persuaded to slap someone's face, and choking is in my opinion too dangerous.

[Asker]

Interesting how you never picture yourself as the one receiving these… Lol

[slatyb]

Slapping and choking? They are hard limits for me either way.

[Asker]

Ok lol..

[Bricealan]

I know! It makes my skin crawl thinking about it! Why the hell would you do that unless you were a sadist or masochist?

[Asker]

The psychopaths are among us...

[Bricealan]

With a girlfriend several years ago, I /we tried to see what it was like to tie her to the bed! Geeeze even THAT really sucked, and I was sorry I/we even tried it. I can't imagine inflicting any pain on a girl during sex and the whole idea seems really twisted to me.

[TwistedSukuna]

Never had sex with her, but my ex got turned on from being choked. She never really explained it, just enjoyed the sensation, though she was very submissive so that definitely had something to do with it.

[Asker]

Certainly.

[Phoenix98]

Machoism pleasure derived from pain or rather certain kinds of pain.

We're also probably fucked up or damaged in some way.

[Asker]

Probably, yes. Are you?

[Phoenix98]

Yup.

[FilmGuy93]

A lot of people enjoy rough play. It's supposed to be exhilarating

[Asker]

People are creepy...

[FilmGuy93]

I like to think of people as interesting or colorful! lol But yeah, they are certainly creepy sometimes too.

[awkward_author]

I enjoy them because it appeals to the D/S dynamic that I love so much.

[Asker]

Why do you like this?

[awkward_author]

It's difficult to fully describe. All I can say is I find the control aspect of the situation extremely sexy and arousing.

[Asker]

You enjoy violence?

[awkward_author]

As long as my partner and I are both enjoying, I don't really see it as being violent. This is, at least, not in a negative way. If it's completely consensual, and both parties are having fun, I don't see a problem.

[Asker]

I see a problem regarding why people are into that kind of stuff to begin with…

[awkward_author]

It's the control aspect and how the pain converts to pleasure. Those feelings heighten the sexual experience. I completely understand it's not for everyone, though. I don't think it's a problem as long as it's done with fully informed consent from all parties involved.

[VikingWarLord]

Most of the Heauxs I fuuck want me to do those things to them.
I also make it a point to ask their deepest, darkest fetish fantasy. Over 90% of these females have some rape and/or abduction fantasy. Some you'd never think, such as Christian Church type girls.

[Asker]

You seem to be a very respectful gentleman 😆

[Mr1derful]

I don't like that at all and am not into it.

[Luopio27]

It reminds me of real bad guys who get turned on when women get hurt. I hate it when pornstars do it.

[Asker]

This remind me of rapist’s behaviors. Some guys really wish they could do it for real but it’s forbidden so…

[Luopio27]

Some role plays can trigger the beast within.

[Asker]

That’s pretty much the other way around.

[Luopio27]

It can go both ways.

[Wise4myage]

Some people get off on it, but I don't.

[jasco]

Honestly it does have a sense of authority to it for men and i just like the sound and the sigh of it giggling

[Asker]

Giggling hair…

[Nigjt]

Yes I do very much a few more of them then what comes to mind at this time.
God Bless

[Asker]

God is certainly not here lol

[Nigjt]

God is always here he will never ever leave us or for sack us he loves us all an all the time. God Bless

[Asker]

I hope he isn’t here to hear such awful things. Such a shame.

[Nigjt]

He hear's all an know's all because he him self is the beginning an the end to all things living an not he is the creator. This is why he is good all the time an full of love for us his children being of Man an Woman an all other's of his creations. God Bless

[LegendaryIcon]

women do, mostly. they like the feeling of being dominated, or even.. yes, pain

it's called "masochism". they love pain

[Asker]

A generation brainwashed since kindergarten. Sad…

[LegendaryIcon]

not really

[Asker]

Yes, brainwashing.

[LegendaryIcon]

nope, not at all

[Asker]

Absolutely, yes. Brainwashing. Denying the truth is just useless.

[LegendaryIcon]

and the truth it, it's called masochism. PEOPLE WHO ENJOY PAIN

[2021biguy]

Spanking sounds like fun, not hair pulling, choking or slapping. Some girls probably like all of them though.

[MasterKS]

yes, love it.

[Asker]

What?

[Anonymous]

yes most women enjoy it

[Anonymous]

My girlfriend loves everything to stated there. It makes her cum like mad.

[Asker]

#Porn brain

[Opinion Owner]

She doesn't watch porn and neither do I.

[Asker]

Pornified society…

[Opinion Owner]

You know people have been doing those things before the age of the internet and porn right?

[Anonymous]

I like being spanked. It doesn't necessarily have to be during sex either. I just like the feeling of someone else being in control. It also helps me cope with my low self esteem. I feel like I deserve it, and it relaxes me.

[Asker]

That’s a bit sad to be honest.

[Opinion Owner]

You're probably right.

[Asker]

That’s why I’ve left this lifestyle.