Are you for or against this Ohio bill?

[SolitarySolace]

"With Ohio’s new six-week abortion ban in place, a Democratic state lawmaker says it’s time for the Ohio Legislature to give consideration to her bill that holds men, who cause an unintended pregnancy, responsible whether the sex that led to the pregnancy was consensual or not.

Sen. Tina Maharath (D-Canal Winchester) said her bill would allow anyone who becomes pregnant to file a civil suit against the person who impregnated them — even if it happened as a result of consensual sex.

“Regardless of the circumstances. I felt it was important to have that vague language due to the fact that abortion is now banned here in the state of Ohio,” Maharath said."

- www.wksu.org/.../ohio-bill-would-allow-pregnant-women-to-sue-men-for-unintended-pregnancies

[Ill_made_Knight]

I'd guess that this lawmaker has no intention of actually getting this law to pass, but is using it to draw more attention to the harshness of the current Ohio law.
If Democrats had the votes to do something like this it would make more sense to just remove the current laws that punish doctors for providing proper treatment to their patients.
To be clear, at six weeks many women would still not be HUGELY concerned that their cycle hadn't started.
Also note that it was Ohio that recently upheld the decision to force a 10 year old 4th grade girl that had been impregnated by a rapist must carry her attackers child to term.
She was able to go to Indiana to deal with this but Indiana has now passed laws that would close that possibility as well.
I remember when Medicare For All was being discussed as a possibility a while back and every Republican was up on a soap box telling you that you didn't want government involved in your healthcare. There would be DEATH PANELS that would decide whether you get treatment or not etc. etc.
Well look who has gone and stuck their nose FIRMLY between a patient and their doctor and is making life changing decisions about the lives of American women and GIRLS. The Republican Party. Imagine that.

[D_Bone_Steak]

I just want to add the so called rapist also got the so called mother pregnant and all of them were illegals immigrants.

[D_Bone_Steak]

They all lived together... talk about fucked up.

[Ill_made_Knight]

@D_Bone_Steak so what, she was impregnated by a rapist. That is what is relevant in this point.

[Ill_made_Knight]

she is a ten year old girl and Ohio wants to force herto have a baby

[D_Bone_Steak]

Hey yes... I agree. She was a minor. Nothing I said is false though. Nothing you said is false either.

[Ill_made_Knight]

personal opinion: The rape that Ohio commited against this child by trying to force her to give birth to her attackers child is EVERY bit as detestable and destructive as the rape that caused the pregnancy.

[D_Bone_Steak]

The abortion was 100% legal... they were just trying to avoid citizenship issues. Wrap your brain around that problem.

[Ill_made_Knight]

@D_Bone_Steak I live in Texas and am aware of immigration issues, I assure you. But that issue has nothing to do with the question. We will never resolve anything if we don't separate issues and deal with each in turn. Even the issue that you bring up has two separate components. Illegal immigration, and rape. Governor Abbott told the women of Texas not to worry about the new laws because he was gonna see to it that there would be NO MORE RAPE in Texas... Texas now has more instances of rape than any other state. We need people in office that will seek realistic humane solutions to problems. Not people who will put backwards laws in place to make sure that they get the vote of this or that group no matter how much it punishes another. This isn't a cartoon, it's real life, and it's complicated, and while marching around making Yosemite Sam-like pronouncements made of sound bites may seem attractive it only makes more problems pop up in other places... Rant not really aimed at you by the way... immigration concerns are legit...

[D_Bone_Steak]

I don't know... does this enable a woman to just point a finger and get paid? A fling of mine got pregnant and didn't let me know I got her pregnant... she proceeded to drag the boyfriend along paying out the ass for the kid for years. She finally came after me when the gig was up, but I managed to remain hidden in the shadows until the kid was grown. Due to life experience, most of the females actions are done to get paid. The family law system is already bad enough where if you're not genetically the DNA father you'll get stuck with the payments if you sign that birth certificate... even if you prove the kid isn't yours after the fact like a DNA test for instance. So now it's just going to be point the finger and blam... that guy pays? That's a serious question. If that's the case I think it's all fucked up. She's going to pick whoever makes the money even though she decided to sleep with some dimwit retard that can't count his own fingers just because she thought he was a hunk. It sounds like a rip off scam for anyone that is going to try at all in life.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Typical liberal mental illness, this would accomplish nothing. Suing someone for being a parent doesn't solve any problems, except imaginary ones they want to create.

At the same time, what if she doesn't know the name of the father, I mean that could be interesting to try and sue him... all that would do is make men not want to give their correct name when dating and getting to know someone. If he says his name is Dave Johnson but it is really John Doe, how would one even go about suing someone that they don't know where he lives and even if they did... since its not child support could file bankruptcy on any civil matters.

People often don't even know the real name of those one night stands or hook ups, so good luck suing them too.

[Luopio27]

Right on.

[Boldy_Erin]

why do you equate being liberal to being mentally ill?

[MysteriousDarkness]

@aerissa_jade A person can ask for someone's ID (drivers license, state ID or passport) which has their legal name on it uness it's a fake ID.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@MysteriousDarkness Haha, and how many guys will say, not showing you? I would not ask that, cause that shows I don't trust the guy, so no point in dating him... and if its a hookup, I don't give a damn what his name is.

[MysteriousDarkness]

@aerissa_jade If it's a hookup and you end up pregnant but don't know hos name what would you do.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@MysteriousDarkness Raise the child myself, why would I need any help from anyone else? I am an adult... and I can CHOOSE to be independent or dependent on someone else, that is 100% my choice. I can take care of myself and my child. It is better that way, no dealing with visitation either. Too many people these days want someone else to take care of them, I am not one of them.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

No, unless the woman was molested/raped, it was a choice she made. It's unfortunate that she made a bad life-altering decision, but it still has it's consequences. Personally, I don't think suing will help anyone. Just make abortion legal up until after the 4th trimester and leave the decision up to the parents if they want to be responsible or not.

[MTC29]

This is all about politics (legislation), yet it appears in the sexuality sub forum. Why is that and why wasn't it moved?

[MCheetah]

Well, add Ohio to the growing list of places I wouldn't dare live in. Not that there was literally any reason to EVER live in Ohio beforehand, anyway. So women suing men for their own choices to have sex? That doesn't make women sound like complete idiots who can't handle responsibilities AT ALL!

Also, a quick search reveals that Tina Maharath is literally just an Asian version of AOC. So she's basically just AOC, which explains the man-hatred and stupidity.

[BeMuse]

A typical retarded commie criminal.

[slatyb]

I should have read more carefully. I hope that in the fall the women of Ohio turn out all the legislators who voted to prohibit abortion. Ohio is not all that red.

[Avicenna]

That would be an unconstitutional law. Talk about violating due process. What if the wrong sexual partner is sued? What if the woman lies about being on birth control? What is a condom breaks?

[Chazmatazz269]

It’s explicitly redundant and generally excessive. Ohio already holds men responsible for child support. Allowing expectant mothers to sue is redundant. To be fair, men should be allowed to counter sue because the woman is equally responsible for the pregnancy.
In addition, Ohio also has “Dad by default laws” and requires both parents to approve of paternity tests. This literally permits any pregnant woman to name any man on Earth as the father of her child, as well as permitting married women to cheat and still hold their unwitting husbands responsible for the woman’s bastard children. In this way, it’s deplorably excessive.

[AviatorTom]

That's a dumb bill. If passed, that would open up the reverse to happen, the guy suing the woman, because the state cannot discriminate based on sex. So if the woman can sue a man for her getting pregnant, then a man can sue a woman for the same thing.

[EnglishEuropean]

Only if he gets pregnant.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

I'm against this bill

[exitseven]

I don't know why they are bothering with this bill. Women are already suing guys for this. The issue is that there are a lot of young unemployed people that are the guys and you can't squeeze blood out of a rock.

[DarkWinterNights]

Not if it’s consensual. This is more of trying to deflect responsibility onto someone else. Men and women both need to adopt safer sex practices.

[SlightlyEccentric]

Fathers need to be held responsible. That does not mean the mother can keep the child away from him indefinitely while demanding exuberant amounts of money in child support. Kids need a father figure in their life, plain and simple.

[Exterminatore]

Based on the details you described, yes and no. Yes because a guy ought to be financially responsible for his children. No because it’s clearly coming from a mentality of “you outlawed abortion, I’ll make you pay for this.”


Also no because only a woman can get pregnant. Don’t want to be pregnant, don’t get pregnant. It’s 100% avoidable in cases of consensual sex. In theory it should be up to the woman to ensure she doesn’t get pregnant. That said I fully encourage men to do all they must, and take reproductive responsibility and ensure you don’t pay 18 years of child support.

[mr4435669]

I am against it, the responsibility of the pregnancy only belongs to the woman.

[Exterminatore]

In theory, yeah, cause only they can get preggers. However who wants to risk 18 years of child support on theoretical arguments.

[worldscolide]

She sounds like an angry man hating feminist who doesn't believe women should be accountable to their actions the same way men are. Women like that are not worthy of respect.

[worldscolide]

Thank God I live in a red state where this wouldn't even be considered.

[GlassTop]

This sounds like something Canada would pass into law 😂 oh please this is complete loony. Just move somewhere else.

[BarryLiverstone]

I’m a resident of Florida

[AndrésC64]

How is that going to be any different than child support?

[AndrésC64]

On further research, I'm against it. If it was consensual sex, then there is no basis on which to sue. But child support should still be paid as it is now.

[loveslongnails]

I think stupid people need stupid scapegoats.

[TroyDT]

Against. I have no problem with a DNA test before birth and then making the father financial responsible, but by this bill removes the responsibility from the lady for her own choice to engage in an activity that they both knew could lead to a pregnancy.

[zagor]

It's a childish response to the abortion ban. What should be done is a state-wide initiative telling the legislature to fuck off and re-establishing the right to abortion.