Women with more than 5 sexual partners have 80% failed marriages and commitment issues, thoughts?

[Anonymous]

[Sangita93]

Nature has designed sex as one of the most enjoyable and pleasant activity between men and women with a purpose of encouraging them to produce babies – as many as they can to keep life everlasting on earth. That is why it is quite normal to have multiple sex partners for most animals (and birds, plants or any type of living objects). But keeping or maintaining pure genetic line of family, system of marriage (and pollination between selected species of plants or matting of animals) was established. For this committed sex partner is a basic need, because producing babies of pure genetic code naturally required sexual relationship with one and only one sex partner. I think this was basic concept behind system of committed relationship in marriage. Sex was not for pleasure only; it was basically to produce future generation of pure family line. If pleasure of sex is main goal of life of anybody – definitely they will have multiple sex partners – and no commitment in relationship or marriage. This is why persons having multiple sex partners are supposed to have no committed marriage life – they will go for separation for their sexual pleasure. In our Indian – Hindu culture – any sexual activity outside marriage is considered most ugly thing, and we are monogamous in our sexual life. According to some religious believes this relationship last for ever – for seven life one after another.

[Rosexøxø]

Interesting mentions here

[genericname85]

please don't understand this as a personal offense towards you but that's objectively speaking utter bullshit.

there is a significant correlation between the number of previous sexual partners and divorce risk of the first marriage. As Smith, Jesse (2021): "Re-Examining the Link Between Premarital Sex and Divorce" confirms referring to the famous original study: Wolfinger, Nicholas H.: (2016) "Counterintuitive Trends in the Link Between Premarital Sex.

go read the studies if you're not gonna believe me. but according to the 2016 study, even women with more than 10 partners only had a 33% divorce rate, vs 30% in women with only 2 partners. so I don't know where your 80% for 5 partners comes from but i'm taking the liberty to assume that it was Buzzfeed or some other sensational media site that spreads missinformation. both studies also account for "the ammount of times people went to church" in their regression models, which i know (as i'm a social scientist) will have significant compounding effects, as people who are more religious are less likely to divorce and less likely to have sex outside of marriage to begin with. so accounting for religious factors skews the results, which are probably overall mostly correct anyway as in: there's probably a strong link between previous sexual partners and divorce risk.

BUT you gotta ask: does the person who only ever had sex with one partner have a "subjectively" better marriage than the person who fucked more than 5 and maybe had 1-2 divorces? because none of these facts says anything about that.

[genericname85]

so tl;dr. women with many sexual partners are more likely to divorce their first marriage BUT it's most definitely nowhere close to 80% of the women with many sexual partners. it's around 30%.

[HighValue]

1. Statistics show truth and reality.

2. Most women hate the truth and reality because they can't handle dealing with the consequences of their decisions/actions.

3. This will not affect women's decisions. They will claim it is false, then become another of those statistics themselves.

For anyone that can comprehend logical thinking: If there is one pizza that tastes great you will like it a lot if you enjoy pizza. If there are 1,000 pizzas, all made exactly the same, you will not enjoy all of them. It is called the rule of diminishing returns. If you have too much of something, it becomes less enjoyable, even if each one was the exact same quality.

[Rosexøxø]

I mean, it's probably true.

I could give reasons why, but I think guys should behold this statistic, and either ignore these types of girls altogether, if they want a committed relationship.

Otherwise, they can just be sexually involved with those girls, as they both see fit, and then not have a committed relationship/ serious relationship, nor expect one.

The girls who have had less than 5 could be considered *by serious guys* for serious relationships.

If guys think this data is true, make the appropriate adjustments. If not true, then keep going about relationships as you and the other party see fit.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

I wouldn't be suprised since it's easier to compare people when you have a lot to compare to. Especially if your current partner is boring, not particularly successful, or as attractive as a previous partner.

I doubt my body count would ever reach that high unless something happen so I'm good, good to know.

[Asker]

The thing is, I don't think most women feel inclined to have a high body count But the ones that do are always the ones getting viral and made to look like this is standard for women when it is not.

[letuswaltzforthedead]

Yeah, you see them a lot on line and it's usually the girls with the highest standards for men. I do think most women have a sexual history but not such a high number like 15 or 20 guys.

[Asker]

I mean, doesn't nearly everyone have a sexual history? Its not saying much

[letuswaltzforthedead]

yeah, so I don't think it's fair to expect for someone not to have one. The less is better but it'd be hard to find someone with none.

[Lliam]

New study finds that girls who learn how to cook, clean, sew and embroider, and don't play sports, go to dances, speak to boys, or leave their parent's homes until their parents approve of a suitable husband stay in marriages 80% of the time, because they are too stupid and submissive to think for themselves or survive on their own.

Handmaids and Stepford Wives never get divorced.

I wonder why patriarchal males feel the need to seek affirmation for their twisted views about women. They really feel that men are superior. It makes me question their self confidence.

[Asker]

I'm confident But also not naive to the biology or science around men and women sexuality The study above had two women scientists or authors... Read it

[Lliam]

Some study is "the" science? I wonder what the authors' agenda was. What are their ideologies? Traditional Christian values?

[Asker]

Tell me, honestly, you think men and women are the same when it comes to sexuality? Your answer to this will determine a lot

[Lliam]

Their attitudes toward sex are generally the same. I don't buy the idea that women are sluts for having libidos like men. There so much pseudo-scientific nonsense about how women and men react to sex differently. We're all human. Traditional, patriarchal values are not psychology or physiology.

[Asker]

This is where we disagree I don't think they are the same

[whirled_up_girl]

Okay, I'll look into the study when I have more time, I guess what I would be curious to know if they mean sexual partners as in casual sex partners or long term sexual parters as in boyfriends etc. I'm guessing they referring to casual sex partners in which case it wouldn't surprise me, but if it were the latter than I would have to wonder if these women were choosing Chads as @krakenattackin mentioned in another comment which would put another layer to things.

[OlderAndWiser]

Correlation does not prove cause-and-effect.

Imagine that we could idenify a girl who is prone to becoming promiscuous and we are able to control the circumstances so that she cannot engage in sex with any partner until she becomes engaged. And she marries the guy. Do you think this manipulation will make it more likely that she remains married to the guy for the long term?

I think it is more plausible to think that girls who are promiscuous have certain personality characteristics that give than tendency, such as a willingness to defy social conventions, a desire to be adventurous, a disregard for societal judgments, desire for instant gratification, etc. And those same characteristics would probably make them more likely to seek a divorce rather then feeling a duty to remain in a relationship and work on resolving the problems.

[EllaNella]

the heritage foundations research is usually faulty and poorly executed, i wouldn't put too much trust into it

[dustybiker]

Far more often luck of the draw, not personal issues.

Anyone has the choice to not be alone, and go through multi partners, and still end up solid.

Personality creates cheaters. A person who would never cheat, won’t. If the local pickings are slim it’s hardly a persons fault or problem.

[dustybiker]

I kinda blended the cheating with commitment issues without realizing at the time. But my thoughts still apply to either or.

[LazerBean]

Yes, promiscuity is co-related to negative relationship outcomes in both genders. Which is why both my husband and I were only interested in people with strong morals while we were looking for a spouse.

https://ifstudies. org/blog/does-sexual-history-affect-marital-happiness

[USLegionary]

Definitely something in it. They get bored or decide their partner isn't good enough anymore

[Asker]

Well, it's not really for those reasons I don't think.

[BCRanger10]

My thoughts are "Welcome to what Catholics have been saying since... forever".

[UnknownPuppet]

not true at all

[AMS700CX4u2]

I think it has to do with developing a habit of walking away. To put it another way cuddling releases hormones that induce a desire to stay or continue. Wham, Bam, thank you, ma'am. does not usually lead to cuddling.

[Avicenna]

I don't buy that. At a higher number of partners, sure, but not 5.

[Rosexøxø]

yeah maybe. Maybe not.

[KAT247]

Well, I’ve been with more than 5, and I am insanely committed once I am in a relationship. That doesn’t change for me. I think it boils down to personality, honestly

[Rosexøxø]

Fair point

[Asker]

Well, there's always going to be that one person in the crowd that says they've seen a solar eclipse. But is this common? Actually do you know anyone in your circle that has? I don't That's if they are truthful. I think for most women, generally, the above is the truth. If a woman is saying otherwise, she's either lying or in denial or just not part of the general population of women for some reason. Personally, a lot of lying and denial exists because I don't think a woman is more inclined to be honest about this because it is somewhat of a taboo subject despite it being felt and seen in reality

[KrakenAttackin]

@kat247. Wait until you hit the wall and end up marrying a simp.

[StickyFloorRicky]

@EmbraceThePain, too right. In this regard, women are very much like children; you can tell them until they are blue in the face... show them there have been others before them. But when it comes down to it: Only the burned believe in the fire.

[KrakenAttackin]

@kat247. Sure you are honey. You are committed to Chad Thundercock who you will never lockdown. The simp you will actually marry will be brutalized by you.

[whirled_up_girl]

@KrakenAttackin Sorry to barge into this conversation but these arguments with the red pill terminology always confuse me. If it's bad for the women to choose a Chad but bad for man to be a Simp then what's the acceptable option for a man to be and a woman to choose? Is there an option outside of being a Chad or a Simp, or put another way is there a man who is neither a Chad or Simp, neither an Alpha or Beta? I'm not asking to be obnoxious or rude I'm just curious to know if there is an answer.

[KAT247]

I love how this has turned into a judgment about me specifically 😂 everyone who knows me knows it makes me laugh

[Rosexøxø]

@kat247 yeah I read their shixt and I was like "what was that all about?" XD Nothing like men in "Tu-Tu's," with the plastic crown on head- wand in hand- arguing with women at the princess tea table. Real men and real women make it work. I can see you and your man have upgraded to "big people's table" where you can dine, communicate, and- excuse my french- fuck. Respect to you AND your man, sis. <3

[Asker]

I think women do themselves a big disservice overall by constantly giving each other compliments even when it is not needed. A woman can cheat on her husband and her friends will say "you go girl" or "you did what was right, he deserved this." It's random and meaningless comments that aren't truthful

[Asker]

"Men give each other insults they don't mean; women give each other compliments they don't mean." I guess this saying is very true haha

[Rosexøxø]

men also say things as "they'll never understand women, or women are so confusing." If that's true- because some of your brothers said so, you won't be able to understand why I said what I said, nor what I said... lmfao praises to the: "r/woosh" I can assure the person I addressed, and any observer, what I said- I meant. I'm a person who sticks by my words, not a woman in the rotten storybook you must read, and want to point at and you don't even know me, so you assuming I said something and didn't mean it, makes you look like a "classic joke." I like men I will say that, but for the sake of this exchange I will say this: Some people have different motivations. Women motivate others to do right or keep doing well by building up and giving compliments so you men motivate others by tearing down and choking each other's throats? lol Yeah, that makes sense. Carry on :) *I apologize to the men who clearly don't think the way you do. Those are my brothers and the men I find irresistible. by the way? The men I reference are the ones who sit at the "big- people's table" ;) And to add, because it deserves reasonable mention: Personally? I motivate with compliments- scratch that- Admirable Recogition, and Constructive Criticism. So you've got *this woman* all wrong. BUH BAI :D

[Asker]

Didn't read all of that But okie...

[Rosexøxø]

either: 1.) lazy 2.) closed-minded Go rest your eyes and mind young man XD

[KAT247]

Real men don’t care about body count. That’s in the past. What matters is the quality of the person. I’ve never cheated and will never cheat. And women can give each other compliments when they want. Unless freedom of speech isn’t allowed amongst women? 😉 I’m done with the subject, but it was fun.

[Asker]

It's just, most of the compliment don't seem sincere from my opinion. It's more of a "girl's power" type of thing. But you see the minute things get heated, these same women will turn on each other faster and more fiercely than men Also, women will smile to each other's faces but secretly hate or hold grudges amongst one another.

[Asker]

The quality of the person is tied to their actions--past and present. This also determines or gives a good read at least of their future, behavior, attitude, etc. I don't know what you mean by "real men" lol. Just another way to attack those who are critical of your actions so that you can feel better about yourself.

[Asker]

@Rosexøxø Definitely lazy lol

[Rosexøxø]

@embracethepain right... but you read my comment NOT addressed to you- it was for kat, and choose to stick your nose in that lol, and yet don't read my comment addressed to YOU lmfao maybe a little twisted too? XD eh well, preferences remain preferences by people who are people. whether they are men or women. No hard feelings embracethepain lol cya dude XD

[Asker]

Your comment addressed to me was a headache to read lol Your previous one to Kat was simpler and shorter The way you write is weird haha

[Rosexøxø]

yeah you knew exactly what men in tu-tus was- no guesses there XD lmfaoOOoOOooo anywho jokes aside- I'll take that as a compliment- wRiGhTiNg wEiRd lolz <3

[Asker]

Definitely not a compliment lol. Hurts my eyes a bit to see your writing

[Rosexøxø]

hm, I guess you're just not versatile... Meanwhile, I can write basic and complex. I like "weirding" some people out especially you :) so it's a compliment and a win-lose :D

[KAT247]

@EmbraceThePain I’m being just about as critical as you are of me by making the “real man” comment 😂 if you can’t take it, don’t throw it out. And about making myself feel better about my choices, I don’t have to. My partner makes me feel better when I’m getting fvcked 😉

[Asker]

@Rosexøxø That's better writing @KAT247 Well, what else is a man going to do while fucking you? Make you feel bad? Lol... Either way, men are perhaps bigger liars than women when it comes to this and especially if they feel like it will ruin chances with a woman they're seeing. Men lie, a lot. Even during sex where they'll say you smell good when you absolutely do not. Or if something feels off, they'll say it feels good.

[KAT247]

Men have made me feel bad during sex 😂 it can suck sometimes since most men don’t know how to make a woman orgasm.

[KAT247]

If anything, you admitted you’d probably lie, so at this point, I have lost all curiosity as to why you’re bashing my sense of quality when you’re describing yourself and men as shitty assh0les with little quality.

[Asker]

You don't think men lie, especially when it comes to matters of women and sex? Popular example: "honey do I look fat in this dress?" Also, I'm just saying, you could be the exception, I don't know. I'm just reporting to you the facts on this issue. Most women I've heard talk on this issue, honestly, have agreed with me. I don't think it's a leap to say men and women are just different. A man can have value sleeping with all sorts of women Women doing the same? Not so much I'm not saying it's right for a man to do this and brag about this and shove it in a woman's face that he's sleeping around... You've heard of the lock and key analogy A key that can open any lock is a awesome key that everyone wants to have A lock that is opened by any or a lot of keys? Not good. All of this is rooted in biology and even women's expressed interests Women don't want to be with a lot of men indiscriminately Men are nearly the reverse So you know when both are acting the same, something is off or weird.

[KAT247]

I am the exception, and I don’t appreciate being thrown into the 80% your original post suggests. You don’t know me, so don’t assume shit about me just because statistics are generalized. Men do lie, but my partner is honest and so am I. Yes, he’s told me when something looks off when I ask him how I look. And guess what? I’ve also told him when he could do better during sex, and we learn together how to communicate. Why can’t you believe that there are good people out there?

[Asker]

I do believe there are good people out there. I never said I didn't. I'm just saying, men usually have all the motivation, reason, and incentives to lie to women. Whether it is to get sex, get her number, get on her good side, etc. As a man, I've been honest with women, but I've also noticed how men don't feel bad lying to a woman when it means a usually good outcome (they get sex, they don't get hit when they say she's too fat for the dress, etc.) This is especially true when it comes to nearly all matters revolving around sex. Have you ever noticed how many men say they do not like whores, sluts, prostitutes, and hoes yet they've slept with these types of women, paid these women, etc. These men are not lying when they say they hate these women. It's just that, men really like sex for what it is--physical fun. They can have sex anytime, anyplace, and with anyone. Men are not picky. Sex is not always a special thing for them. It just feels good and is fun. They can have sex with someone they legitimately hate and/or have lied to.

[Rosexøxø]

@embracethepain woa woa woa so you first you said women give compliments they never mean indicating we lie and now you're saying men lie... a lot- when a majority would oppose you and say they're direct, and if they are indeed lying- you as an individual (one) man can't be trusted under the general identification as a man. I'm OUT! you're just a booger of baloney. XD

[Asker]

@Rosexøxø You're leaving out a few things "Men give each other insults they don't mean; women give each other compliments they don't mean." This was the full context But in regards to sex/women, yeah, men lie A good man to have, as a woman, who you can certainly believe will not lie or sugarcoat things would be a gay man. Gay male friends for women can be great than even straight female friends. Straight female friends will also lie to a woman aplenty AND can be bad influences on her.

[Rosexøxø]

@embracethepain AND your reply to kat was just as long as mine! *rose adds 'Hypocrite' to the list that reads: liar, little boy, lazy, closed-minded, twisted* :P deuce

[Asker]

@Rosexøxø If yours was just long, I would be okay with it The thing is, it's the WAY you write that is hard to read for any long period of time. Some letters are capitalized that aren't supposed to be, symbols are used Herr and there, etc.

[KAT247]

😂 funny how my boyfriend isn’t gay and is still honest lol

[Asker]

@KAT247 I don't know your boyfriend and I can't read his mind He could be honest I think for sure, YOU want to believe that As to whether he is actually honest? Unless you can read his mind it's hard to tell. Again, if he likes you/has sex with you, there's so many reasons to tell outright lies to white lies. Gay men? Operate differently. They don't want to be with you, but they are also NOT women who will just tell you what you want to hear and give you compliments all day everyday.

[Rosexøxø]

XD are you an English teacher? Guess again? :D Do you not know how to interpret the most common symbols known to the English language? A Semi Colon, Question Mark, or Period? As a member of the military, do you not know how to even decipher Cryptography/ Cryptology? Alpha Bravo? None of that? I guess you only know the words from the books that spew lies about women. Only know words like: "Woman! Bad! Woman. LIE. No good. Woman. Must. Be. Beat." lmfao... So... *Rose adds illiterate to the list*

[Asker]

@Rosexøxø Just write normal.

[KAT247]

@EmbraceThePain *Normally And I made him wait for sex, so he knew he had no reason to lie, especially since he already said things before to me that would make a woman with easily hurt feelings to not give him sex. So whatever. I’m done (again) with this ridiculous banter. I know who I am, and it doesn’t matter what statistics say since it’s not based on my life specifically

[Rosexøxø]

@embracethepain Just develop a brain. Sorry, you can't just conveniently take a pill for that. You know... as you do for your "muscle."

[Asker]

@KAT247 How does that mean he was honest with you? Did you read anything I wrote? The prospect of sex is the only thing that matters. It can be 1% possible or 99% Also, if you made him wait, while you didn't make the others wait... guarantee you he is thinking of that, which is an even more reason to be dishonest towards you. It is a weird thing if you made him wait and not everyone else. If you're going to be of quality and have standards... apply them evenly.

[KAT247]

Look back and read. I never said I didn’t make anyone else wait. And we don’t talk about past partners unless it is suitable for the conversation. The past is the past, and him and I respect who we are now. I know when people lie when they want sex. I’m not that dumb and men aren’t that slick when it comes to it. He made it obvious he wanted sex, and I told him I wanted to wait until we were in an actual relationship, and he didn’t immediately ask me to be his girlfriend. So that’s the end of that

[Asker]

So why write " I made him wait" like it was implied you didn't do this before... it most certainly sounded like this Anyways, guys are slick with it all the time. Again... "Honey, how do I look in this dress." "You look good." It doesn't take a lot to lie to a woman in reality. Again, he finds you attractive and has/wants sex with you Lots of reasons to lie or be disingenuous.

[Asker]

How can you be a quality person and say the "past is the past" Spoken like someone who doesn't like what they've done in the past and doesn't want to believe it has any bearing on who they are and what they will do in the future Rather than be honest about it You lie 👍 👌 got. you

[LovingJo]

I ssay BS, based on that fact alone.. What is this based on? The fact that she's had ONLY 5 or three fact that she's had 5?🤔

It seems like an utterly useless statistic to be, I would feel like the more experience the better, but that's just me 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

[Asker]

So, maybe for men the "more experience the better," but not necessarily for women. Why? Well, to keep things short it is because men and women are just different biologically. I think what the fact is supposed to imply is that, women with over a certain number of sexual partners will cause commitment issues, future divorces, etc. All of this because men and women are different. Women have more investment, emotions, and selectivity when it comes to sex This contrasts with men, where they have nearly no investment, can have sex purely out of physical pleasure, and are not selective. I don't think it's healthy for women to have been with a lot of men. Mentally/emotionally especially or even more so

[LovingJo]

Omg 😂

[KrakenAttackin]

@lovingjo. So how long have you been married? didn't think so.

[LovingJo]

I'm sorry, why do I need to be married? Absolute horse shit!! 💯 Such egotistical crap, that been think they can fuck about and then become loyal, and not have women be the same. I've never cheated on any relationship, my whole life. I'm glad that I got to fuck about when I was younger, leaves less need in my head, for it now. You have no right to judge me, for not being married 😂 What makes you think that I even want to be? 🤔

[Asker]

Yeah... this is a worthless talk to have with you lol... Some women are just too far gone or won't listen to facts and reason. So, I'll just "divorce" myself from here because nothing helpful will come out of it.

[LovingJo]

🤔 That's very harsh!!

[KrakenAttackin]

@lovingjo. Don't blame me for your not being able to hold on to a man.

[LovingJo]

Lol 😂 who said I can't? I'm not blaming you for anything, but your attitude towards me, over a question, shows more than I wanted to know. I am happy in a relationship.

[Asker]

@LovingJo I don't know what else to say to your comment To me, it sounds like, correct me if I'm wrong "I whored around and now I'm glad I did because..." I don't get it, there will always be these types of women that make the majority of women seem like they're the same way.

[LovingJo]

Wow, ok. Take it however you like.

[Asker]

So, you didn't even dispute it... right... ok... Also, you typed in what you did, not me Again, I even said to correct me if I'm wrong

[LovingJo]

No, I'm not going to dispute it, because I don't need to justify my actions to you. Full stop. 🙂

[Asker]

It's not justifying anything It's just saying whether it's true or not

[LovingJo]

What constitutes "whoring" around, to you? Because, to ME, a whire, is someone who is paid for sex. Something I've never done. I enjoyed being single, when I was younger. And as I've already said x I've never cheated, ever.

[Asker]

Just because you've never cheated doesn't mean you're a good person.. To me that's the bare minimum Whoring around is being with a lot of people, sexually, in a indiscriminate manner. You don't take the time to select or vet. It's akin to casual type encounters or relationships What is a lot? Well, of these types? Depends kind of Random orgy at a house party? One is a lot. Hookup hoping for it to be something long-term? Different.

[KrakenAttackin]

@lovingjo. The evidence is there. What's more, the evidence is the same thing that little voice in the back of your head has been telling you.

[exitseven]

I wonder if the Heritage Foundation is one of those liberal groups that push their BS onto anyone who will believe in it

[DarkWinterNights]

I believe it. Those I know that have had many partners never seem to be happy.

[worldscolide]

Its a comical stat, Because its true, and because women refuse to admit promiscuity damages their ability to have happy marriages.

[Asker]

They can refuse, but it is literally experienced and felt in reality. It's also written about and studied Why do some deny it? It's almost easier just to be honest

[worldscolide]

right!

[AsaKyo]

You mean like 5 past boyfriends or

[Asker]

Or what Read what is written "5 sexual partners"

[AsaKyo]

Ohhhh okay, sorry my bad lmao

[Asker]

https://youtu.be/Mwf3EPnusVQ

[StickyFloorRicky]

😂😂😂@godofwar clip

[whiskeyontherocks]

True for both genders

[LogicBomber]

… and they deserve it.