Was HIV Created in a US National Laboratory? 8 Major Points That Everyone Should be Demanding Answers to

A combination of a very important question for the people of the world to address, and a question with completely unconvincing (and conflicting) official explanations.

Was HIV Created in a US National Laboratory? 8 Major Points That Everyone Should be Demanding Answers to

THE MESS OF OFFICIAL STORIES

The most common official story is that HIV-1 started in chimps as a dormant disease that had no major health effects, and then, only after tens of thousands of years or more, suddenly crossed over the species barrier 'some time in the 20th century', becoming a lethal pandemic in humans. Although it might have been caused by infected needles from an immunization program of Polio. Or Smallpox. Or some chimpanzees in Argentina. Or Brazil. And why each strain appeared almost simultaneously in different parts of the world (HIV-2 only in the United States) is anyone's guess.


I NEED MORE THAN THAT!!!

WE NEED ANSWERS

These are the main (but not the only) major issues that have Still yet to be addressed:


1. HIV is called HIV because it is the disease that is programmed to circumvent and counter the human immune system.

It's as if it somehow 'knows' our immune systems inside-out, and actively anticipates its reactions. In that way, it is the perfect biological weapon.

Was HIV Created in a US National Laboratory? 8 Major Points That Everyone Should be Demanding Answers to


2. Humans and chimpanzees have co-existed for around 315,000 years - and for most of that time, they lived in much closer contact to each other than they did in the 1900s, when the crossover allegedly happened.

Chimp HIV (called SIV) is allegedly at least tens of thousands of years old. Despite that, HIV was first identified in 1983. AIDS only became recognized as a pandemic in 1981. 1981! Not 1232 AD. Not 440 BC. Not 18,000 BC. Not 94,000 BC. 1981!! After many millennia of closer human-chimpanzee proximity.


3. This timing is particularly relevant.

1981 is just a few years after the golden age of US biological weapon development, which reached its peak between around 1974 - 1978. Their mission was to invent a biological weapon (pandemic disease) specifically targeted to circumvent the human immune system. Sure enough, a few years later, HIV suddenly appears. After at least Tens of Thousands of years of the official 'chimp transfer' NOT happening.


4. This country (the USA) is particularly relevant.

As one of the only 2 or 3 countries (Soviet Union and possibly Britain being the others) in the world that had the scientific means and the confirmed program to develop biological weapons, it is particularly odd that of all the countries in the world, it was also the USA where the first confirmed Western cases of AIDS occurred. These Americans were exclusively homosexual, or men that have sex with men.


5. This demographic is particularly relevant.

If HIV was developed by the government, it is likely that those involved were conservative extremists, and also likely that they were anti-homosexual. The DoD has a documented history of infecting unknowing citizens from disfavored groups, such as 'blacks', prisoners and homosexuals, for human experimentation of biological and chemical weapons - most famously in the 60s and 70s.


6. The alleged origin of all HIV, is the capital city Leopoldville, now called Kinshasa.

What 'a bushman living in the wilderness hunting chimpanzees for food' is doing living in a capital city, is anyone's guess. Kinshasa is also an ideal place to start a pandemic. A major African trade route, Kinshasa and Brazzaville are the two closest capital cities on Earth, visible to eachother on opposite banks of the Congo River. This makes it a good strategic choice for a place to start a rapidly-spreading pandemic in Sub-Saharan Africa.


7. Some have accused British/American scientists of manipulating the testing and reporting of preserved human tissue, to get vectors (carriers of the virus) that go further back (to the 1960s for example), to legitimise and elongate HIV's alledged 'history'.

Research and publishing on the earliest HIV cases is rife with disagreements and uncertainty, with the unexplained 'contamination of samples' being most common.

Was HIV Created in a US National Laboratory? 8 Major Points That Everyone Should be Demanding Answers to


8. Means and opportunity have been established. Now the motive.

The effect of HIV is fourfold - and all of these effects fit with an extremist conservative doctrine: 1. To terrorise people into antisexualism. Scaring populations into equating HIV with casual sex, and thus encouraging only conservative, monogamous and religiously-sanctioned relationships. 2. Containing the rapid population-growth of the third world, keeping their numbers managable. 3. Killing homosexuals - as this is a group that Western religious extremists hate. 4. Killing intravenous drug addicts - a group that many believe was already targeted by the govt in 'the war on drugs' and the propagation of heroine in the first place.

Considering these conservative ideals: There have been many such conservative, religious extremists in the US Defense Department. None more so than in the Reagan administration - when the HIV terrorism exploded.

CONCLUSION

It is just not good enough, that the pathetically weak and conflicting official explanations are not seriously addressed by the people, and pressure given to address them at the highest level. Most of all, the odds are extraordinary that a perfectly-tailored, seemingly intelligent pandemic appears in, primarily, the demographics that those capable happen to hate, in the same 5-year period as the height of tailored pandemic disease research by those capable. After those capable give a completely unbelievable explanation: that HIV suddenly appeared many thousands of years late, and only at the height of the biological weapons development by those capable.

Was HIV Created in a US National Laboratory? 8 Major Points That Everyone Should be Demanding Answers to
This is not just important for prosecuting and stopping mass genocide and finding a cure - it is critical for the people to understand that this is what Western governments are capable of. Without active, and if necessary, militant mass activism, the western governments will continue to carry out horrifying acts of evil. They need to know that if they try it again, we are not going to believe them, and we are not going to be passive. They need to take the consequences for their actions. And the point at which to start, is to spread our own virus to everyone we know. The virus of truth and justice.
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Most Helpful Guys

  • things like HIV, AIDS and Ebola just to name just a few otherwise I'd run out of character allowance probably a hundred times over...

    were created as population control by government agencies, not just by the US but UK and other countries employed such tactics, as chemical weapons, were and still are viewed as an extremely effective means with which to eradicate threats, change a strand of DNA or a code here or there and you can effectively target specific genomes or genetic characteristics...
    meaning that you could say if you wanted to eradicate one race from the planet, alter the code and make up of the virus and you can effectively wipe out that race.. however this would also mean that anyone with that particular genetic marker would also be susceptible to such a contagion... and since we have generations of people who share a varied ancestry this makes it extremely difficult to make that sort of approach effective.
    but it doesn't stop off the books research agencies or departments from trying

  • It didn't cross over into humans before because it is extremely rare for humans to have sex with other primates, and those that did would not have traveled very far due to lack of transportation infrastructure.

    The most plausible scenario for the cross over is due to anti-malaria experiments in the 1930s. Doctors were injecting humans with blood from primates that did not get malaria in hopes of finding a vaccine. Ooops.

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  • No, it was not created in a US lab, or any lab, except the giant petri dish we call our planet. It is a mutation of two very closely related simian viruses that were able to adapt to a human host. It appears to have jumped from simians to humans about 100 years ago, most likely first among bantu hunters.

    • Did you read my article? Because thats precisely the hypothesis that it questions.

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  • The first confirmed case of
    AIDS has been traced back to 1958 in a Manchester seaman. He would have had to have been infected years before.

    This is barely around the time DNA was discovered.

    And you think American science did it? WITH WHAT? Alien tech from Roswell?

  • There is no credible reason to believe that HIV cam from a laboratory. For one thing, HIV is a very poor biological weapon, and anything related to HIV is a very poor biological weapon.

    • The main criteria for an effective biological weapon are that it has high contagion (the pathogen passes easily to another host and infects them), that it has high virulence (the chances of disease developing in those hosts who are infected), that it has high morbidity (the chances of those diseased dying), that it has a reasonably high incubation period (it is undetected for a long enough period to spread to other hosts), that it is genetically programmed, or its method of transmission is programmed, to target particular groups, and that it is programmed to circumvent the human immune system. Certainly there are other criteria. HIV fullfills most or all of these. And because it is sexually related, the Fear of contracting it also acheives the goal of reducing the population.

    • HIV is way too slow, and too unsure to be transmitted, to be of biological warfare use. And it could easily be recognized as something that would come back and infect your own people and soldiers. A biological weapon needs to have a life span that kills the enemy, but itself dies, before spreading too far, and infecting your own. And a war could easily be over, before the enemy even knew they were infected, but still long enough to have infected your own people. There's not one shred of proof that HIV was developed as a military weapon, or that the U. S. tried to do so. There is much more evidence, that Trump is a Russian spy, than HIV was fomented by the military. And speaking of conspiracy theories. How about Obama invading Texas? Obama taking over the government if Trump won? Obama being born in Kenya. The blacked out helicopters that were suppose to be an invasion. The trains that had UN troops to take over America, and other fool conspiracy theories that didn't happen.

    • @markscott, yeah Trump is agent "CrazyChicken" of KGB lol =D

  • Interesting, I'mma see if I can find actual lecture of this. However biological weapons date back to the 14th century. Many more countries then the ones you summed up have been known to test and experiment. And way before that time too.

    Many more countries do it unnoticed due to the difficulty of it being detected and the ease to make these biological and chemical weapons.

  • Yes, I can definitely believe that it was. Good take.

  • Interesting

  • This was an interesting take, thxxx

    • Interesting - more like an absurd bit of conspiracy theory.

    • @zagor was nice to read

  • I was told by Big Foot that HIV was actually created by the aliens who were involved in 9/11. It was made to keep the public distracted from the truth about the Loch Ness Monster's involvement in the JFK assassination.

    • Oh shit that totally makes sense, bro!

  • look I despise reagan, but I hate him for what he actually did, this is just crazy talk

  • You folks need something to do.

  • 1. High speed international travel is relatively new. It made #2 a global issue very quickly.

    2. It spread so fast among the gay population because by the late 70's it was common for some gay men to be having sex with 30 strangers a week. It hit the populations it did (gay men, needle users, highly sexually active straight people, blood transfusion recipients) because it spreads by bodily fluids.

    3. Microbes, bacterial and viral, that take advantage of sexual practices to spread have been around for longer than humans. It is not surprising at all that a new one would come to light.

    Quit spreading fake news and take a biology class. Or better, a logic class.

  • Why did the disease only appear recently even though humans and chimps have lived together for thousands of years you ask? One word urbanization. In the twentieth century Africa became far more urbanized than it had due to economic changes under colonialism in which populations increased and modern professions appeared. Cities included prostitutes. The first case of the Aids virus has been identified from 1959, years before genetic engineering had been invented.

  • HIV crossed from chimps to humans in the 1920's in what is now the Democratic Republic of Congo. This was probably as a result of chimps carrying the Simian Immunodeficiency Virus (SIV), a virus closely related to HIV, being hunted and eaten by people living in the area.

    • Researchers estimate that some time in the early 1900s a form of simian immunodeficiency virus, SIV, was transmitted to humans in central Africa. And back then science wasn't advanced enough for humans to create their own viruses. Making this post fake news.

    • Firstly, you should not mix up the label 'fake news', which is a propaganda activity by the media, and people questioning authority, which is absolutely vital. Second, did you read the article? It doesn't make any sense that a highly contagious and virulent pandemic would have no effects for 60 years, then suddenly - and without any documented mutation - start killing people in their millions. Thirdly, the word 'probably' is exactly what this article addresses as completely insufficient, considering the gravity of the problem.

    • I really don't have the time or the will to argue about conspiracy theories. Bye bye.

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  • At least provide sources next time.

  • Yes it was

  • Interesting

  • Me and my family always knew this and much more things.

  • this goes for ever disease

    cold, flu, anthrax, HIV, etc
    all disease is of satan and his followers

  • No more infowars for you.

    • People only say that when they don't have a realistic counter

    • @Halotestin Some questions are worth a legit answer-some, like, is the earth really flat? or are aliens really building a fuel station on the moon? or was HIV created in a labratory-just convince me of the broad and deep ignorance of a whole swath of people in this country.

    • Other diseases have been created in labs, there are plenty of argument-killing facts that the earth is round, but HIV isn't that far fetched