Do guys really mean it when they say "real girls have curves?"

We all hear it, "I want a girl with curves, not a girl with the body of a 12 year old boy;" "real girls have curves;" "real girls have some meat on their bones." You know what? I think that's a load of BS. Why? Just think for a minute who guys really noticeably check out, whack off to and say nice things about. Does she ever have a little tummy, some cellulite or a little double chin? Not who I've seen. All the most popularly desirable woman - Victoria's Secret models, starlets, p*rn stars, that one chick every guy wanted in high school - does not have a "little meat on her bones." What they all have in common is a teeny waist, with big boobs and/or ass - a nearly impossible figure, unless you're lucky like them. Look at Marissa Miller, Maxims #1 on the Hot 100 countdown of 2008; she is model thin - if you look at an untouched photo of her, she still has a great body in my opinion, but in the eyes of several men she shouldn't be desirable because her ribs are quite visible. However, she seems to make up for it with her... what are they, like, DDs? DDDs? I don't know. The point is, if she had very small breasts, like Kate Moss, I have a feeling guys would call her "too skinny." Same with stars with "booty," - look at Beyonce, Jlo, Kim Kardashian - BIG ass, TEENY waist. On top of that, how many men do you see clamoring over bigger stars like Aretha Franklin, America Ferrera or even those chicks from the Dove commercials? Women who actually have some meat on their bones... The fact is fellas, when girls get eating disorders, it's not because we want to look like a 12 year old boy - I know because I speak from past experience (don't worry, I'm better now). All we want is to attain some aspect of an attractive woman, and because not every girl is lucky enough to be born with big hips and the ability to grow huge boobs, we go for something we can control: our waist size. You think girls actually want small boobs and a flat butt? Hell no! If you all actually practiced what you preached, then maybe we'd have the confidence to let ourselves become voluptuous; but no... you all call us fat too. So tell me... WTF DO YOU GUYS ACTUALLY WANT? Big ass, tiny waist, big boobs, or big ass, big tummy, and big boobs,hm? (At least girls are more honest and admit they want a man that's got a six pack and some arms...) /annoyingrant :p
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  • I've googled Marissa Miller and don't think she's attractive at all. Her boobs aren't in proportion with her body, plus she looks like a generic 90s p*rn star. I don't really understand why you're speaking of these two extremes. Both of what you describe to me sounds unattractive actually. I don't want a woman with a perfect body, but rather, someone that keeps reasonably in shape and respects her body. In reality that can come in all shapes and sizes, and there can be imperfections such as 'cellulite' and still be hot. But frankly, I think a lot of this rubbish that is spewed by half wits (ie real women have curves/love yourself whatever your shape) , seems to just give lazy women an excuse to sit on their arse and accumulate the pounds. I do at least 4 x 30 cardio a week, and eat reasonably healthy, there's no reason why women can't do this either. I actually agree with what the other guys say too. You're asking us what kind of body we like, which is forcing us to give rather superficial answers. To me, personality is just as important as how a girl looks.

    Also, many of those Dove women are fat. Watch me get down rated ;) I'll say this over and over. I strongly believe our notions of what is normal has been perverted by our increasingly large society. 30 years ago those women would have been labelled overweight, and rightly so.

    • Humans are not designed to eat the way and not to eat the sh*t that we do. BUT I still don't prefer scrawny girls. Also any one who whinges about superficial views is full of crap. Stop lying, being superficial is how animals (humans included) decide who to breed with. It is how our minds work, there is no way of dodging that bullet. The problem is our corrupted western society has these gross ass skelleton models up on a pedestal and low rent minded pieces of sh*t pick that up and eat it right

    • up as if it is the normal way to look. It is not.

    • I totally agree!

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  • Keep in mind the phenomenon of 'Internet Standards"

    Our media gives us access to everykind of waman availabe, so when we watch pron or read a magzine we can have whatever we want. BUT this is not necciarily what we want in real life. My personal thing is girls with dark hair, skin tanned depending on how dark the hair is, extremely pretty face, narrower waist/bigger hips, long legs, C-D cup breasts, blue eyes. cute nose, no ribsor pelvis bones (I don't know what they are called. hip bones?) showing, the barest tinyest bit of definition on the stomach. It is quite complex and specific

    But then in real life I just don't really care. Its not at all that I'm settling for less, I genuinely find most girls attarctive. Real life standards are much looser, I like white girls as long as they aren't hideous and not obese. All of the girls I have been with ahve been a bit bigger than average and to me that's perfect, I love how soft they feel. it is very feminine. but then all of them have turned around and gotten upset when I run my hands over their stomach or thighs because 'it makes them feel fat'

    wtf is this business, I was just enjoying your body trying to make you feel wanted. My point is girls are just as crazy as boys. On a side note America Ferrera is smoking hot. I never understood why the show was claled Ugly Betty.

    • Great answer man :] That definitely makes sense.

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  • It's a matter of preference; I think those that are mature enough will desire somebody who is well-proportioned, carries themselves well and takes care of themselves. Also, to answer your query, men are attracted to a certain hip-to-waist ratio of 0.7 for women, which as I stated, is shown to correlate strongly with general health and fertility. Women within the 0.7 range have optimal levels of estrogen and are less susceptible to major diseases such as diabetes, cardiovascular disorders and ovarian cancers.

    In a nutshell, guys subconsciously gravitate to that aforementioned ratio and the rest of the details come to one's preferences or idiosyncrasies.

    • simplified genetics + cultural conditioning + random-personal-preference (we are all diferent in our desires) = desire

    • ( 'random-personal-preference' should have apostrophies around it to isolate it. the dashes are dashes not subtractions)

    • That is a very nice summing up the topic; elegant even.

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  • To sum up your question, guys want the hourglass shape. Almost all pictures of models are photoshopped to make them look perfect.

    I don't really stress too much what the body looks like because its going to end up changing. Sure I like boobs on the bigger side, but when my wife is old and grey they aren't going to be much fun.

    I don't think a tiny waste is really important, but a proportional flat one is.

    • Good point :]

  • Okay, here are some women that any man would cut off both arms for. Then, you tell me, if they're "not really curvy."

    Christin Hendricks: link

    Kim Kardashian: link

    Beyoncé: link

    Salma Hayek: link

    Mariah Carey: link

    Kate Winslet: link

    • You need to read my whole question. I addressed two of those girls and their general body type. They all have flat tummies was my point in a nutshell, but I implore you go back and read the whole thing anyway and re-respond.

  • May I ask why you put Aretha Franklin in the same group as America Ferrera? The former is way too fat, the latter is actually quite attractive.

    If your only categories are 'skinny' and 'fat', I imagine guys preferences will be quite impossible to understand. There's a category in between that many girls seem unaware of.

    • YES. Girls fully are not aware of this. I personally love a girl with a bit of meat on her. Old school (read Ancient Greek or Norse) values of what a woman should look like.

    • No no, not skinny and fat. I'm asking what guys think of the phrase "real girls have curves." Big, skinny or little tummy, it's all up to what you guys believe that means. And, you're right - they're not in the same category... That's my fault for doing some quick searching for a "curvy" or bigger woman in Hollywood. It's hard because they barely exist! Plus, America Ferrera isn't fat, but I used her because she's not skinny. I would call her curvy/voluptuous.

  • A lot guys want what they can't have. What's going on in the media. For the most part people are media whores, woman included. Pretty face and flat stomach go a long way. You don't have to have a fat ass as long as something is going on back there, some shape. Flat asses are a turn off. I am only attracted to girls with a pretty face. Shallow maybe but that's what my mind calls for.

    • alright man thanks for the honesty :]

  • before I begin if you don't live in the us things may be different. this was legit one the most confusing question I have read so far. your argument is guys like girls that have little to no female form and your eveidence that guys like big t*ts, tiny waist and big asses...what? to answer your question only a very small percentage of guys like double chins, sloppiness, stamoche fat and muffin top. some guys do prefer girls with the body of a 12 year old boy they are usually cucasian. most black and/or Hispanic people prefer as many curves as possible without any bad fat. yes most girls don't have the genitics to be ideal, its the same with guys but unless you have a medical excuse everyone has complete control over there weight. unless possibly if you are really poor. by the way fat is just a word we attached to people that are over our ideal (body wise). with most guy it comes down to settling do want her a little fat or lacking female form. I personally have a really hard a time looking past fatness

  • Skinny girls get the attention where I live. They look sexier clothed, scantily clad AND naked. Skinny girls can even carry off small t*ts which is very hot as everything is generally tight and toned. No fat butt or belly can compete: link

  • I think you've hit a lot of good points. In terms of what I find most attractive, it'd be thin all around, not a big butt, but nicely rounded and tight, not big hips but clearly defined curves under a think waist, and BIG, firm, natural boobs. Marissa Miller is an INCREDIBLY example of an awesome body. Though she's nowhere near a DDD. Pretty sure she isn't even a DD cup. But yeah, the girls with DDs or DDDs on a thin frame are pretty freaking awesome--though sadly pretty rare too. So you don't REALLY have to worry about competition from them since they are few and far between and are usually taken!

  • i just like a girl to be in proportion, if she is with massive boobs it dosn't look right. equally if she is a bit chubby and has small boobs it dosn't look right.