so you think it has to do completely with society ?
Yeah in a way, I think despite how times change, women and men still 'stereotypically' have a 'role'. the difference with my case is that I had to learn these things in the end to survive, cause my partner couldn't do them either, because his mum always did these things so he never learnt. He does clean and do washing up, and he's not completely lazy. He didn't refuse to learn like me though. I only taught myself when I no longer had a choice. Its society and traditional, it goes together.
yea I see what you're saying, but what about as children, girls tend to play more with dolls while boys tend to play more with cars? Or like the case of David Reimer, who was force to live as a girl but never felt like one.. where did his urge of not feeling like a female (even tho he was told by society he was) come from, in your opinion?
Ton start with I think it helps if you have brothers as well as sisters, because although I had dolls, I wanted scaletricks, but I still felt like a girl. And from having brothers I understand myself, and males a bit better, then say my friend who only has a sister. In David's case its neither, think about it, he was forced to live like a girl, but never felt like one. I guess its similar to a boy who feels he is trapped in a females body, because inside he feels female...
All though society and tradition do play a heavy part, I do believe that we all have an instinct about what gender we are, just because he lived as a girl, doesn't mean he didn't see men around. There is the argument between nature vs nuture, and both can be right.But I guess in this case, he was 'nutured' as a female, but 'Nature' told him he was a boy.
when I say gender roles I mean a display of ones masculinity and femininity. We probably don't realize what sex we are until we are able to notice oursleves. I think you maybe right though.
True, my nephew used to associate MALES as authority, meaning he used to think his MOTHER was a MALE, because it wasn't about sex, but the role in which he felt she had. But obviously now he knows the difference. Children learn by seeing and copying, don't they. And I have many atimes with my nieces and nephews asked them at a young age what gender they are, and then tell them, no you are female, and point to mummy and granddma and aunties to suggest she has something in common. So yes society.
I was taught the very same socializing agents. Though I'd like to add that gender roles are greatly instilled in other aspects. Girls are given pink clothes, boys blue. Girls have dolls, houses, and hair accessories; boys are mostly given toys like trucks and cars. They're encourage to rough house more than girls.Gender roles have nothing to do with orientation. It occurs during lateralization. People are so hateful that I don't believe that gay/bi people would want to be that way.
I have to tell you that when my nephew was a toddler, he refered to His mum, his dad, his grandma and his granddad as MALES, and everyone else as females, and we believe the reason behind this was because he didn't associate it with a gender necessarily, but with AUTHORITY.
link yea what's the name of that doc, I read the book but still lol.
Dr. Money and the Boy With No Penis
did you think maybe he killed himself because he had no penis. that's sexual. not character.how does that prove that women like to wash dishes & men like to chop wood.
I think he killed himself because he thought he wasn't like other people, he thought he was a freak.I can't prove that, I'm just saying that gender roles are usually set when the child is very young.
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