I think if they want equal rights then they should have equal responsibility and be mandated to register for selective service at 18 years of age and in time of war, drafted on a 1:1 ratio with men, and also put in combat units after being drafted on a 1:1 ratio with men. That’s true equality and why I argue for it while feminists complain endlessly about not being given equal rights and being so oppressed, yet not one is fighting to ensure women have the equal right of being drafted.
Then there’s my other thoughts. I’m a former U. S. Marine. Female Marines in combat roles and I’m quite sure by extension females in any branch in combat roles are a joke. They fall out of humps and runs regularly. Couldn’t shoot the broad side of a barn with a scope on their rifle. Aren’t as fast, strong or coordinated as the men. I know we’d get destroyed with them at the tip of the spear. Frankly I think they should all stop pretending to be men in every area of life.
In history co ed troops have not worked. They have been tried in modern times a few times. The Germans in WWII, The Russians, etc etc. It does not work, mostly due to a biological urge in men to protect women, to put themselves in harms way to do so. It is innate and instinctual.
I do believe it comes from the fact that women men are biologically disposable, that if half of the women in a tribe were to die it could take up to 7 generations for the tribe to recover, while half of all men it would take only one or two.
If there ever was a WW3 I would volunteer my services... like a nursing assistant or something. I think countries need people to volunteer, not be drafted. It’s hard to work with people who don’t want to be there!
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Nobody should be drafted, it should be a free choice of every individual. We live in democracy, not in some totalitarian regime.
Women should not be drafted and all radical feminists should be reprogrammed in a psych ward. This would solve the debate because the question of whether all women should be drafted is an appropriate conclusion to the "equality" that radical feminists liberals fight for. But the feminist ideology is very flawed. So it should be rejected by society. Women should be women. And me should be men. We are different. And different is good. Feminists want women to become men. They don't want pregnancy, they want the breadwinner career. I think they also want a penis. They are sick and twisted people
Your first point those numbers you supplied are partly do to a bias family court system. Your second point people can get stronger as no make gains. Your third point women are not emotional or mentally weaker than men. Your fourth point could please cite your source. Your 5th point are there any studies supporting that argument. The 6th point how much does cost to equip our current female service members than our Male ones. Do you have that number. Point 7 how many military battles have happened on us soil. And point 8 please vote sources.
Not at all. Females didn't make the rule. Men back then, some even now, laughed and laugh at the thought of women doing any sort of physical work. Still tell us we should have stayed in the kitchen. It's so not feminine. Loved and love to talk about how women are physically inferior etc. Well yeah hope you enjoy the draft. I accepted I can't do things a "man" was built for. My stepdad set me in my place long ago with that reality. They can keep it. Don't be mad at females for something your own gender decided.
I'm an atheist. As well I don't see how it's self-hate. Just following what everyone wants society wants right? Either way there's always something I'm doing wrong right? Can't make everyone happy right.. lol Just a waste of space who doesn't even want to be alive. Making everyone in the world pissed. To much of a coward to actually end my worthless existence. My family everyone else.
Yeah you're right I have a lot of self-hate. I hate myself not because of my gender just I do. I wish I was dead never born. I don't wanna be alive but I'm to much if a coward to die. I'm a disappointment to everyone. I wish I could give my life to someone who would make use of it.
Waking up everyday just reminding me of how worthless I am. Being hated Trying to make others happy fix things. I can't anymore I just cry and cry No one can help me I can't even help myself.
No one cares Bottles of pill I can't even jump. I just chicken out and sit there crying. I can't go to anyone. I have no one I can't do anything right. I'm nothing but cancer a disease. I don't deserve to live. I'm not going to be a coward anymore it wouldn't matter to anyone if I just died. That would just make everyone happy. The world would be better off.
No one is being drafted currently no, but when a male turns 18 he has an option to sign a paper saying he agrees to letting his name into selective services (if there's another draft). If he does not sign the said agreement his rights to attend college, work inside the U. S and the right to vote will be not given to him.
That's not how the draft works. Women are currently not forced to sign up for a draft. Anyone, woman or man, currently serving, signed up of their free will to serve voluntarily. The draft takes on anyone regardless of whether they have a desire to fight for country or not and is not voluntary. Women in previous wars signed up to help the war effort, but were never required to.
I live in Australia where there was compulsory national service in the military for men until 1972 when it was abolished. Many people, particularly in the older generations would like to bring it back. If it does come back, and I doubt it ever will, then compulsory service should only apply to men for the reasons outlined above. Women should be able to volunteer but generally should not be used in primary combat roles.
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There are some reasonable arguments for not having women on front-lines. But most people in the military aren't front-line combatants and most people who are drafted don't fight. You can drive a car can't you? Learn to operate different transports. You can learn to operate a radio. You can cook for people. You can keep inventory and manage logistics. And if push comes to shove then you should be prepared to fight.
If you want to vote then take the draft. But if you're not taking it and still expect to vote then what are we to do about that? Just because there's a bunch of reasons why you shouldn't be on the front line doesn't mean that suddenly it's all fair and ideal. You should get something for signing up for the draft, like a tax cut, or a medicare discount or something. Putting your name down should mean something.
The draft is a declaration by the government that you are its property to use and dispose of as it sees fit. It is anathema to a free society. No one should be drafted.
Yes they should be drafted in countries with conscription and they actually are. Israel is one example. Since guns and other weaponry have rendered physical imbalances pretty irrelevant when it comes to battles there's no reason why women wouldn't do well here. They probably make quite brilliant snipers, air force pilots, etc.
a Woman on average is physically weaker than a man, and why the fuck do feminists gotta bitch and moan about every fuckin thing i don't want to be forced to go to war if we end up in a real big war where drafting happens, Fuckin ell its like all you feminists do is find your blessing and complain about them
In my opinion they shouldn’t be, on average women do tend to be physically weaker. It’s just due to biology and bone structure, not some made up patriarchy telling women what they can and can’t do. Men on average also tend to be more muscular and are more likely to be patriotic/pro-military.
No one should have to be drafted unless they want to fight, but chances are if all hell breaks loose and there is a world war 3 (which i think will happen in future) , we're all gonna be thrown in it regardless. If you think about it, no one is really safe from a world war, men and women will die even if they are or aren't on the battlefield.
For your information, they have a lot of women serving in the service at the time, in all fields. Now, since women feel they should be treated equally as men in everything else, including being able to join the Boy Scouts, then I think they should be able to be drafted too. Israeli women serve in the army in Israel. Are the US women a bunch of wuss bitches who are only good for posting pics on Instagram and getting their nails done weekly, or are they tough and ready to rumble?
IMHO, yes, they should be. There are literally 1000's of jobs in the military that don't require biceps of steel. In fact, the vast majority of the military occupations are support roles. Every able bodied male that sits behind a desk is one less gunner, pilot, etc. Women can do combat too, but their efficacy is somewhat limited, with rare exception. Those women who can do combat, should. Those who cannot should help their brothers and sisters in arms get their bullets, boots and biscuits.
I think we should. Just because you can carry 50lbs more or run faster than me does NOT mean you are better equipped to serve our country. Soldiers are just pawns in actual war, and honestly now, we have such high tech technology Being able to carry 200 more pounds ain't going to make you bullet or bomb proof.
If woman want 100% equality, then of course. If it's voluntary for men, then the same should prevail for women. But, God did not make men and women equal in certain respects. Viva la difference! That said, that Israeli gal in item #6 above could certainly be used as a diversionary tactic against the male enemies! So, let's just admit that the sexes are different for some very good reasons, let the women join if they want, and let's get on with life.
Nobody should be drafted unless it is absolutely necessary like in a huge world war. I think women that are in the military should be in separate units than men so the men don't have to worry about protecting a lesser soldier that is actually endangering the rest of the unit.
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I think if they want equal rights then they should have equal responsibility and be mandated to register for selective service at 18 years of age and in time of war, drafted on a 1:1 ratio with men, and also put in combat units after being drafted on a 1:1 ratio with men. That’s true equality and why I argue for it while feminists complain endlessly about not being given equal rights and being so oppressed, yet not one is fighting to ensure women have the equal right of being drafted.
Then there’s my other thoughts. I’m a former U. S. Marine. Female Marines in combat roles and I’m quite sure by extension females in any branch in combat roles are a joke. They fall out of humps and runs regularly. Couldn’t shoot the broad side of a barn with a scope on their rifle. Aren’t as fast, strong or coordinated as the men. I know we’d get destroyed with them at the tip of the spear. Frankly I think they should all stop pretending to be men in every area of life.
In history co ed troops have not worked. They have been tried in modern times a few times. The Germans in WWII, The Russians, etc etc. It does not work, mostly due to a biological urge in men to protect women, to put themselves in harms way to do so. It is innate and instinctual.
I do believe it comes from the fact that women men are biologically disposable, that if half of the women in a tribe were to die it could take up to 7 generations for the tribe to recover, while half of all men it would take only one or two.
If there ever was a WW3 I would volunteer my services... like a nursing assistant or something. I think countries need people to volunteer, not be drafted. It’s hard to work with people who don’t want to be there!
Nobody should be drafted, it should be a free choice of every individual.
We live in democracy, not in some totalitarian regime.
Women should not be drafted and all radical feminists should be reprogrammed in a psych ward. This would solve the debate because the question of whether all women should be drafted is an appropriate conclusion to the "equality" that radical feminists liberals fight for. But the feminist ideology is very flawed. So it should be rejected by society. Women should be women. And me should be men. We are different. And different is good. Feminists want women to become men. They don't want pregnancy, they want the breadwinner career. I think they also want a penis. They are sick and twisted people
Your first point those numbers you supplied are partly do to a bias family court system. Your second point people can get stronger as no make gains. Your third point women are not emotional or mentally weaker than men. Your fourth point could please cite your source. Your 5th point are there any studies supporting that argument. The 6th point how much does cost to equip our current female service members than our Male ones. Do you have that number. Point 7 how many military battles have happened on us soil. And point 8 please vote sources.
Not at all. Females didn't make the rule. Men back then, some even now, laughed and laugh at the thought of women doing any sort of physical work. Still tell us we should have stayed in the kitchen. It's so not feminine.
Loved and love to talk about how women are physically inferior etc. Well yeah hope you enjoy the draft.
I accepted I can't do things a "man" was built for. My stepdad set me in my place long ago with that reality.
They can keep it. Don't be mad at females for something your own gender decided.
Lol you have tons of self-hate
Did a religion brainwashed you?
I'm an atheist.
As well I don't see how it's self-hate. Just following what everyone wants society wants right? Either way there's always something I'm doing wrong right? Can't make everyone happy right.. lol
Just a waste of space who doesn't even want to be alive. Making everyone in the world pissed. To much of a coward to actually end my worthless existence.
My family everyone else.
Yeah you're right I have a lot of self-hate. I hate myself not because of my gender just I do.
I wish I was dead never born. I don't wanna be alive but I'm to much if a coward to die. I'm a disappointment to everyone. I wish I could give my life to someone who would make use of it.
Waking up everyday just reminding me of how worthless I am.
Being hated
Trying to make others happy fix things.
I can't anymore
I just cry and cry
No one can help me I can't even help myself.
No one cares
Bottles of pill
I can't even jump. I just chicken out and sit there crying.
I can't go to anyone.
I have no one
I can't do anything right.
I'm nothing but cancer a disease.
I don't deserve to live.
I'm not going to be a coward anymore it wouldn't matter to anyone if I just died. That would just make everyone happy. The world would be better off.
NO ONE IS BEING DRAFTED.
Women will be drafted if there is a draft bc they already serve in the military- which they fought to be able to do.
women have been drafted for centuries in other countries. United States did not create Adam And Eve. seriously.
No one is being drafted currently no, but when a male turns 18 he has an option to sign a paper saying he agrees to letting his name into selective services (if there's another draft). If he does not sign the said agreement his rights to attend college, work inside the U. S and the right to vote will be not given to him.
That's not how the draft works. Women are currently not forced to sign up for a draft. Anyone, woman or man, currently serving, signed up of their free will to serve voluntarily. The draft takes on anyone regardless of whether they have a desire to fight for country or not and is not voluntary. Women in previous wars signed up to help the war effort, but were never required to.
@kreamykraemez It is called selective service
I live in Australia where there was compulsory national service in the military for men until 1972 when it was abolished. Many people, particularly in the older generations would like to bring it back. If it does come back, and I doubt it ever will, then compulsory service should only apply to men for the reasons outlined above. Women should be able to volunteer but generally should not be used in primary combat roles.
There are some reasonable arguments for not having women on front-lines. But most people in the military aren't front-line combatants and most people who are drafted don't fight. You can drive a car can't you? Learn to operate different transports. You can learn to operate a radio. You can cook for people. You can keep inventory and manage logistics. And if push comes to shove then you should be prepared to fight.
If you want to vote then take the draft.
But if you're not taking it and still expect to vote then what are we to do about that? Just because there's a bunch of reasons why you shouldn't be on the front line doesn't mean that suddenly it's all fair and ideal.
You should get something for signing up for the draft, like a tax cut, or a medicare discount or something. Putting your name down should mean something.
The draft is a declaration by the government that you are its property to use and dispose of as it sees fit. It is anathema to a free society. No one should be drafted.
Yes they should be drafted in countries with conscription and they actually are. Israel is one example.
Since guns and other weaponry have rendered physical imbalances pretty irrelevant when it comes to battles there's no reason why women wouldn't do well here. They probably make quite brilliant snipers, air force pilots, etc.
a Woman on average is physically weaker than a man, and why the fuck do feminists gotta bitch and moan about every fuckin thing i don't want to be forced to go to war if we end up in a real big war where drafting happens, Fuckin ell its like all you feminists do is find your blessing and complain about them
In my opinion they shouldn’t be, on average women do tend to be physically weaker. It’s just due to biology and bone structure, not some made up patriarchy telling women what they can and can’t do. Men on average also tend to be more muscular and are more likely to be patriotic/pro-military.
No one should have to be drafted unless they want to fight, but chances are if all hell breaks loose and there is a world war 3 (which i think will happen in future) , we're all gonna be thrown in it regardless. If you think about it, no one is really safe from a world war, men and women will die even if they are or aren't on the battlefield.
i think ww3 will happen in future to
but it will be the last war
For your information, they have a lot of women serving in the service at the time, in all fields. Now, since women feel they should be treated equally as men in everything else, including being able to join the Boy Scouts, then I think they should be able to be drafted too. Israeli women serve in the army in Israel. Are the US women a bunch of wuss bitches who are only good for posting pics on Instagram and getting their nails done weekly, or are they tough and ready to rumble?
IMHO, yes, they should be. There are literally 1000's of jobs in the military that don't require biceps of steel. In fact, the vast majority of the military occupations are support roles. Every able bodied male that sits behind a desk is one less gunner, pilot, etc. Women can do combat too, but their efficacy is somewhat limited, with rare exception. Those women who can do combat, should. Those who cannot should help their brothers and sisters in arms get their bullets, boots and biscuits.
I think we should. Just because you can carry 50lbs more or run faster than me does NOT mean you are better equipped to serve our country. Soldiers are just pawns in actual war, and honestly now, we have such high tech technology Being able to carry 200 more pounds ain't going to make you bullet or bomb proof.
One problem is when a woman is captured by enemy , she will be train loaded. Of course most women are doing that in private anyway.
If woman want 100% equality, then of course. If it's voluntary for men, then the same should prevail for women. But, God did not make men and women equal in certain respects. Viva la difference! That said, that Israeli gal in item #6 above could certainly be used as a diversionary tactic against the male enemies! So, let's just admit that the sexes are different for some very good reasons, let the women join if they want, and let's get on with life.
Nobody should be drafted unless it is absolutely necessary like in a huge world war.
I think women that are in the military should be in separate units than men so the men don't have to worry about protecting a lesser soldier that is actually endangering the rest of the unit.