Thanks for the MHO!
Your welcome 😊
A white australian was shot in your country not so long ago never herd about it on main stream news if it were realy all lives matter why didn't we hear about this poor basterd my guess is becaus he wasn't black so you c if your a dick dont matter if your black white or yellow your guna cop it by yankie coppers poor white people are looked down apon by the pigs in Australia all the time and we can't play the race card its not a race thing more a class thing cops r middle or upper middle class as soon as I get pulled over by a cop my so called white privilege goes down the drain and I only have one drinking and driving charge that was ten years ago blm is nothin more than an insult to all the white people who have had a problem in the past but still get pulled over every time they put ther keys in the ignition. ..
I wish I could give this more than one thumbs up
@cusam Hate to be honest, but its most likely because he wasn't American. You're right, I haven't heard about it (but I dont ever watch the news anyway,) so I dont know why they were shot but I already doubt they were shot by a cop for no reason. And if you think about it in relation to money, the media made millions of the first 2-3 murders of young black men, why would they ever want to stop doing that? So EVERY black man that's killed by cop makes it to national television. Believe me in America people STILL manage to be prejudice, and others STILL manage to ignore the blatant racism when they see it. Thats why we have this moron for a president. Everyone in society that is not white, straight, rich, AND a man is fucked. I know that. I believe you and I'm sorry you go through that. But again, BLM isn't meant to downplay YOUR problems, its to ask for help, because racism won't stop without the help of the white man.
@Reach500 Why thank you. I was thinking hmmm how many dislikes can I get today?
Is that a reference to Trayvon Martin? Is that really hoe you feel it went down? Like he was just minding his own business like a good kid or something? Even if you dont think lethal force was necessary (I wasn't there but it 90% most likely was getting your head pounded into pavement can kill you or leave you disabled) I don't understand why people defend him.
Also Ill have to look it up but there was a case where a white 17 or 19 year old kid was set up by a cop he accidently texted about drugs when he met the cop they set up a sting and when the lights started flashing the kid peeled out. The cop said "he was trying to run me over". After he shot him in the head through the driver side window. It was not a justified shooting. This is a case of police brutality and corruption because the officer was never charged. So this is not exclusive to black people if you search google you will see there are many cases involving many people of other races as well.
@Blake0048 They defend him because he lost his life doing nothing. The kid was walking around eating skittles and for some reason that seemed suspicious? What made it suspicious you ask? He was black. Thats it. White people are used to seeing black men in the districts as suspicious and dangerous. Thats why he was shot by the cop. And thats a sad story. I never said cops kill ONLY black people though so I'm not sure where you're going with that. I know there are white kids that have been killed by cops, but I have yet to hear a story about a cop that killed a white boy for walking around in a 'suspicious' manner.
Lets just say its all about race why only white men? wouldn't white woman be just as culpable? You also forget the wealthy only make up maby 10 or 15% of a population the poor make up a majority. Bugger all to do with race every thing to do with class and money. Better training 4 American cops could help and tighter gun laws so the cops ain't so jumpy.
@cusam Id say generally women dont have to worry about these things whether white or black. And tighter gun laws and police training would indeed help. But half of America is against that so its hard to do anything about it. Plus BLM is meant for people that couldnt be saved by such things because theyre already dead. Its not about people that could potentially die. We could all potentially be shot by an idiot cop.
By that logic only black men can or should fix the problem because they r the only ones getin shot by cops. So glad I dont live in america.
@cusam yeah you dodged a bullet there.
i want to hear about these problems. pm me.
I agree completely. When you have a breast cancer awareness drive you are not disregarding all others cancers, just bringing more awareness to one. Maybe the movement would have less issues if it was called Black Lives Matter Too, which in itself is sad that it still needs to be said. Every living breathing human matters on our earth, that's why we need to bring more attention to the groups who often are treated like they don't.
@CheshireCat89 @fabulouspancakesYou both have explained this wonderfully. I feel the same way
I know, right?
by the way thank you pink downvote, I appreciate you looking through all my comments to downvote❤
Well, it was bringing awareness to the fact that we do matter... Sayin all lives matter reduces the point the the slogan/hash tag tries to make.. It's not sayin that All lives don't matter..
People troll on here so much. They downvote you for trying to be neutral/nice to everyone. It's honestly pathetic
Also I agree with you Cloudy :)
@DanielleMarie98 yeah it is hahah, and thanks 😊@JDavid25 of course you matter, but so does everyone else, and I think making a stand can be good but the way BLM has done it only made it worse, it should be about unity but that's not how they advertise it.
@DanielleMarie98 I didn't downvote her, but they downvote cause they disagree.. It's pretty normal.. LOL..
I mean we been separated from society... "White" people started out not really wanting to be around us, and still in some ways they do today.. But, BLM is not about separation based on skin shade.. It's about bring awareness to the fact that "Black" lives do matter.. Not that "Black" lives only matter.. All, people see is "oh "Black" people just trynna make themselves look special again.. But if you look at statistics, obviously to society, we still don't matter as much.. And people preach about not segregating skin shades, and don't practice that ish.. Like I ain't trynna hear all that honestly.. It's just a defense response..
And I ain't trynna angry "Black" man you.. I agree that it shouldn't be like this.. We are al human, and are really distant relatives.. But it is like this.. And blaming BLM for a problems that's always existed in America, is not the answer..
@JDavid25, did I say you did? No. In fact I wasn't talking to anyone responding to her opinion. I was specifically talking to Cloudy. And I don't know if you're aware but the internet is full of trolls. If someone is being kind you always get that one person who downvotes it because they're just having a bad day. Don't even start that mess with me, sir. I'm not some kid who doesn't comprehend, unlike some...
@DanielleMarie98 I didn't say you said I did.. I was just mentioning that I didn't.. And yes, I know about rolls, but the only reason you call them trolls, is because you strongly agree with Cloudy's opinion... Let's be honest here.. And I'm tellin you that just cause they downvoted her stuff, doesn mean they are trollin... She has a strong opinion about a stance that many people may respect, so of course she would get some down votes.. LOL.. That's what I'm sayin..
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I'm sorry but can you honestly find me some people in real life who still think black people's lives don't matter, or mean less? Preferably under 80 years old.
@mrsticks there are still so people out there, like the psycho who stabbed some guys in oregon who stood up against racism, oh and his friends
@mrsticks uhh, there are many. Especially since a certain someone has taken office. They're not even trying to hide anymore.
Saying "there are so many" like so and so, doesn't actually show me any evidence. Would you like to actually prove your point?I'm not here to talk about the US president, why do you people somehow bring him up in every conversation... You have an obsession.Again, I'll wait for any real evidence. And I mean, more than one or two, because in a world of 7+ billion, 1-3 is nothing.
@mrsticks I don't bring him in any conversation unless he's relevant to the topic at hand. In this case, he is. And you're right, I have an obsession. It for damn sure ain't the president tho.
I mean, no your president has nothing to do with what we were talking about. We aren't talking politics. You just bring him into goddamn everything. Waiting for evidence still...
>> If all lives mattered, then there would be no need for this debateIf (((Soros))) wouldn't fund it, THEN it wouldn't exist.
Also probably true.
Yea, blacks lives matter!!! And if you're a black woman, you're even more oppressed. If you're a black disabled woman it's the trifecta of oppression. OMG A black disabled transgender woman. We hit the quadfecta of oppression. WHAT IF SHE'S GAY TOO? THAT'S BE A FIVEFECTA OF OPRESSION, WHOSE AND ILEGAL IMMIGRANT!!! OMGWe've reached the HEXFECA? My brain is about to explode. This woman is soooo oppressed she should automatically be president. No questions asked. If you question anything , the your a racist much like...OMG WHAT IF she's A TRUMP SUPPORTER?SEPTFECA?Do I need to keep going?You're stupid. All lives matter. The ultimate minority is the individual.No fuck off.
@Partywithtom hey Tom, do me favor and go comment on some newer questions k? Troll ass.
Could there possibly be an association with committing crime and getting shot by police?
@Blake0048 unarmed people who haven't committed violent crimes should not be shot and killed by police, especially when the person isn't violently resisting arrest. even if we want to follow that logic the rate of suspected crimes committed by demographic doesn't accurately reflect the rate of murdered suspects
Except it does. Yes anyone can be killed by a trigger happy officer I'm white and I get nervous anytime im pulled over for this reason. Im not downplaying tge issue im saying it isn't an issue that only affects black men. You say 6% of the population (its more like 15%) represents 60% of those killed by police officers there is clearly something wrong. First off 60% is a majority but the remaining 40% is still statistically relevant meaning people of other races are also being killed. Secondly killed by police does not always or even often mean murdered by police. Huge difference. My point is the statistic you mentioned doesn't support the notion that black people are negligently murdered by police more often than other races only that they are killed more often. Also even if they are negligently killed by police more often that doesn't mean there is a racial component motivating the officer to overreact. It simply means more African Americans find themselves in
Altercations with police per capita compared to other races. This doesn't excuse the officers who negligently use lethal force when unnecessary. Im just pointing out that correlation not equal causation.
@Blake0048 there are about 21 million black men in america. the total population is 321.4 million. so i'll let you confirm my math but i get 6.5%.the 60% represents unarmed suspects being murdered/killed (it's all the same) by police. so it suggest a definite disparity. if things were fair the numbers should be closer to black men being about 6.5% of unarmed deaths at the hands of police. now we can allow that black men may commit more crimes, than other segments of the population but certainly not 10.5x's more crimes than the rest of the population.obviously unwarranted deaths at the hands of the police don't only affect black people but it disproportionately affects black men which is a huge problem. 6.5% of your population should never represent nearly 2/3 of all deaths in any measure
black men don't commit 2/3 of the crime in the country so there is no reason why police could justify black men being so disproportionately killed
you can judge the number of arrests for yourself from the FBI. black men represent less than 1/3 of all arrests. ucr.fbi.gov/.../43tabledatadecoverviewpdf
I was referring to black people as a whole as in black men and women.
there's so many factors to consider... not just the amount of arrests. I find it difficult to prove or disprove a racial bias using statistics. you are trying to prove prejudice which is a state of mind not quantifiable.
@Blake0048 i think it's fair to prove prejudice in this disparity... i don't know if you are playing devil's advocate or truly think there is something fair in this but 6.5% of the population representing 60% of unarmed deaths of suspects (not criminals) speaks to a prejudice. even if you took race out of the picture and just posted the numbers it would speak to some sort of injustice. 6.5% of population28% of all arrests60% of unarmed suspects killed by cops... that speaks to injustice
Indeed.If we take it from a pure philosophical point of view, then we humans really do not matter to anything as things keep doing what they are doing, time goes on, day becomes night becomes day and etc...We die and so little will change. I mean so little, that it may be significant to a few people such as relatives and friends but really like water off a ducks back for the rest of the world.But if we are speaking from a supporting groups perspective, then I rather would go with all lives matter. I wouldn't want to sink in a titanic because of the women and children first sexist rule.
but the problem is that all minorities face racism and discrimination, and black people do not deserve special attention or recognition for this. The reason you hear more about instances where black people experience racism is for several reasons, first of all there are more black people in numbers in the west compared to most other minorities, then the fact that blacks do in fact commit more crime than other minorities as statistics prove. Then lastly many newspapers make a big deal out of policemurders of blacks while often neglecting instances where white people are killed by cops, mainly because the racism angle will create more attention and more hits/clicks etc. Many newspapers are also controlled by leftists who try to follow a certain narrative.
Here's the thing though. There has never been an uproar from us when other minorities speak out because it's not a threat. So BLM should be no different, it just gets the most attention due to this nations history which is understandable. And yes, our issues do deserve attention. Any marginalized group deserves that. And your "statistics" are inaccurate so I'm not even going to discuss that, when there are actual statistics from police bureaus about frisking and excessive behavior being used on minorities (Hispanics/Latinos and Blacks) far more often. Discrimination is not justifiable, so I don't see what you're trying to prove...
If you say all lives matter then that has to be inclusive of black lives, or else it's paradoxical. So once again, you have no point. All lives matter is not a real thing and never was until black lives matter came into play so there's that. You aren't trying to actually understand anything so I don't see a reason for you nor I to continue on any further.
No I think the FACT they have been known to riot pillage burn and loot in the name of protesting and the fact they murdered some cops is why they are seen as a threat.
I'm going to preface this by saying that if you're going to be ignorant or rude, don't respond because I'm not here for arguing on the internet. I'm just responding to your interpretation of my statement 😊Now the people who use violence as a means as protesting have no actual connection to BLM nor are they a proper representation of what the movement stands for so that's not an excuse. That's just choosing to see one side of something without completely dissecting it or trying to truly get to the root.
I disagree with BLM at its core. Yes some of the aggressors did have a connection to the original "movement". Thats like saying if a man murders people and claims to be a member of the KKK but isn't a registered card carrying member he doesn't actually represent the believes and values of that organization.
You know what would be more effective than polarizing the black and white people on an issue that believe it or not affects all races? Make the slogan #endpoliceviolence or something and come up with solutions to the root of the problem which is a corrupt militarized police force. #blacklivesmatter makes it a white vs black issue and has done nothing but damage race relations in the country.
Its done damage because people don't want to accept that some of these events are racially charged and that it's an issue. It's really not hard, but that would be having to confess responsibility and privilege which seems to be a difficult concept to some people. Excessive force will always be an issue, so yes that needs to be handled but this is particularly about the black experience and there's nothing wrong with shedding light on that.Race relations have never been good in this country because of the history it carries so what's occurring now is only bringing it to light for this generation. It's the same circumstances but in a different time.
Do you think that people who fit the stereotype of "white trash" are treated any differently by law enforcement? Do you think that only black people are mistreated by the justice system? Because I can show you plenty of real life cases of non-african Americans who were brutalized by police whose cases simply weren't sensationalized by the media.
In my previous comments I've acknowledged that not only black people receive mistreatment soooo...And again, the error in your statement is that you're not realizing that the cases against whites weren't racially charged. That's the difference. And to say that some cases that have come up weren't racially charged is ignorant. To your "white trash" comment look up the Scottsboro boys trial. Even the Emmett Till trial shows that the economic status doesn't override their race and this belief of superiority still exists.
Yea. Aquited by an all white jury in 1955 when black people were still referred to as negros and we drank from separate fountains... find something relevant to this century. Of course there are racially motivated cases. There are racist people in the world this won't be changing anytime soon. What is your solution? Do you really think you can legislate racism away?
It is relevant to this "century" considering 100 years hasn't passed yet. Racism was and is so much more than just "you can't sit here" and everything else. And to be honest, I can never answer that question because there's too much to cover. I think it all starts with acknowledging history and how it's repeated itself time and time again. There's an acknowledgement to privilege that has to occur. People have to actually care about issues affecting others rather than being competitive. But it's in our nature as humans to be that way, it was just escalated.We all know that no discrimination will ever truly go away, but it can be decreased. It's just going to take A LOT of time. I don't believe I'll see it in my lifetime.
People attack the blacklivesmatter movement because it is ridiculous. Sorry.
@InvictaDaemonium I second your movement.
A very reasonable approach. I think most people who make judgements relative to these movements are only playing along. Kudos.
@InvictaDaemonium there's an area for your own opinipn and its NOT the comment section of my opinion.
pretty sure every place that has a little typing bar at the bottom is the area for my opinion.
@InvictaDaemonium Actually no. This world doesn't revolve around you.
Not saying im the center of the world. Im not even the center of this comment string. But, this app is a place for opinions. thats what the reply option is for and the post option and the comment option. And i wouldn't even go as far as to say giving my opinion makes it right, however, giving it here, is an appropriate place.
@InvictaDaemonium Its not. This is a place for conversation. You were commenting to combat my opinion. Are yoi going to comment on everyones opinion similar to mine? No. You're just looking to argue. As quire frankly you're 16. You dont know shit about whats going on in the world.
yes. im sure you worked very hard for your mom to give birth to you first. bravo. i commented on yours in particular because its the one i saw. i didn't see any other that were pro BLM. Also, yes, i am looking for a debate because i know, even at 21, id still crush you at one because facts beat feelings every time. and the fact is that the BLM movement is terrible. BLM is the definition of how not to protest. I live in san antonio and recently the mayor said something against the LGBT community. can you guess what they did? did they, A, burn her house down, B, barrade her car with rocks, or C, shoot her husband? if you picked one then you're wrong. They had a lgbt festival in the park across from her house. peaceful but sends a messege. thats how you protest. not by burning down your own city or stopping people from getting to work or going around hunting white people.
@InvictaDaemonium Get over youself and go back to the playground
good logical rebuttle.
@InvictaDaemonium I'm not looking for a debate. Find someone else. I have things to do with my time than waste it on you.
You could learn something new. Something worthwhile.
@InvictaDaemonium I'm plenty educated on the topic without you
Are you sure? Given that you backed BLM, I doubt that.
@InvictaDaemonium I've developed an educated opinion. End of. I'm not debating with you so just stop. Find someone else.
Our opinions do belong in the comments box. Actually yes, the world does revolve around him if it revolves around you, them, or any life at all. The “informal exchange of ideas by spoken words” or “an exchange of diverging or opposite views?" You can take the argument out of conversation, but cannot take conversation out of an argument unless... someone get's triggered (aka emotional).Bang, you made a claim, couldn't back it logically, resorted to an appeal to emotion, allegations of wrongdoings as a way to repeal any validation of an opposing view and resorted to personal attacks even...Wow, it's as if you come from a world where shouting others down is more viable than a coherent thought bang... Just saying. I mean you literally posted an argument and got triggered when met with a counter one.
@D_Bone_Steak I'm just not going to waste my time arguing with an asshole who just wants to prove they're right when they simply aren't. I have better and more productive things to do with my time.
ClapClapClap... and you just don't get it. Maybe tumblr is a better fit for you.
@D_Bone_Steak Stop trying to start an argument
Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists name calling as the lowest type of argument in a disagreement.
So thus since you were first to call people names or try to attack another's character (ad hominem)... and any idiot can see where I'm going with that.
@D_Bone_Steak Just stop. I'm not gonna waste time arguing with you. Keep going and I'll block you. I don't have time for your usless shit.
Would you agree to a debate of facts and logical ideas?
@InvictaDaemonium No because you're just going to be on the path of "im right no matter what"Not interested in wasting my time.So stop
If you can present facts to support your arguments and statistics then im open to changing my belief.
@InvictaDaemonium bang on the other hand seems to be on the path of "im right no matter what," (<--her words) but probably knows she's has no argument to defend and/or too hardheaded to concede any notion that BLM is, in fact, ridiculous. lol meanwhile all facts and statistics shine a lot of light on all the Dindu Nuffin's hate group
More like, "i can't back up my claims so ill call you names and retreat in victory". But whatever. I've debated that before. not as frustrating as it used to be.
@InvictaDaemonium Her reasoning skills are found plentiful on any playground with little kids. Honestly I think she just wanted to push the "All Lives Matter is racist" narrative like the Huffington Post would do. Basically parroting something, but not understanding what she is talking about... like most of the "You can't _______ because feelings" shout downers out there. Can't reason with people that live in a bubble.
@D_Bone_Steak @InvictaDaemoniumLike why y'all wanna fight so bad? Look at you lashing out like a whiny piss baby because I dont want to argue. You aren't worth my time.I have made an educated opinion. I've weighed out pros and cons on my own. Obviously 6 others agree with me.Take your trolling attitudes somewhere else, find someone else to fight with because you aren't worth my time
oh yes!!! amen!!! preach
If black lives matter was actually about black people's lives mattering, they'd be trying to change black cities from little Somalia's to okay places to live lmao
@RationalMale Ah yes, the ol "black on black crime" excuse.That's not what BLM started for, but there are tons of groups within the black community that are. People can care about more than one thing at a time.
Ok thays great but black lives matter is a crock of shit. There are tons of white people killed by police. The issue is corrupt law enforcement and a system that turns a blind eye to justice. Black lives matter is just an excuse for idiots to riot and protest and be angry.
@imtheman0048 Black people don't need an "excuse" to be angry, but okay.
Oh shut up. Two of the highest earners at my office ate black one is my supervisor. We just had a black president in the oval office for 8 years. Life is what you make of it. Period. You need ti realize not all white folks are born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Actually most aren't. That being said there is injustice in the world and it is motivated by greed and a lack of humanity it isn't motivated by race its motivated by money.
@imtheman0048 OK Chad
Chad? Thats not actually insulting because neither I nor anyone on the thread knows what you're saying.
@imtheman0048 you don't know what you're talking about either and yet
Ok you're right. Police brutality is an exclusively black problem thst affects no other race. Also rioting willl solve this.
@imtheman0048 but when did I say that? When did I say any of the shit you're arguing against? I don't even know how you squeezed out so much when I've said so little.
@imtheman0048 You might want to look this through. Each point has a link of resource. www.vanityfair.com/.../data-police-racial-bias
No I'm not saying that at all and I'm not racist at all
Maybe your racist
I see what ur saying. I put all lives matter. however the way I mean it is in literal terms. not because I'm saying "so shut up" ! if it was the other way yes that would happen too. I just mean everyone matters regardless!!!
Are you or anyone you know afraid to go outside at any point , even in nice weather, and afraid you're going to get struck by lightning,?Because that is roughly the same chance that an unarmed black man even Justified, killings occur.
No, the reason the group focuses on killings by police officers and non-blacks is because these crimes tend to not be brought to justice. Black on black crime is typically brought to justice, so there is no need to protest them.
@Reach500 And this group jumps to conclusions about whether shootings were justified or instead were crimes, and this group incites violence. If the goal is a color-blind society, how does have BLM help us to reach that goal? It doesn't. Tell me something concrete and measurable that this group has accomplished.
@OlderAndWiser Not a damn thing. And no they are not brought to justice. Black people will protect these criminals. They have the "no snitch rule".
@OlderAndWiser I agree that the group should focus more on concrete measurable changes in the way things are done and it is important to look at what really happened in each case before responding, but too many times, black people have been killed and mistreated with impunity. Someone had to say something.
Omg what? How even?
@catelyntje They advocate for the killing of cops and they've also killed and beaten up White people... sure, they don't do lynchings like the KKK did, but they're still a bunch of racist pieces of shit.
When did they kill a cop? All they are saying is black lives matter. Comparing them with the KKK is not even close to it come on
@catelyntje 11 cops killed (at the time of that article) by BLM activists since 2014 www.thegatewaypundit.com/.../ "Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon" (cops are often referred as "pigs" by those who don't like them)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNxoeqf0Ws"What do we want? Dead cops! When do we want it? Now!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqQXmnMr_w8White man beat up by a bunch of Black guys during a BLM riot.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlV4-xTrpy8The KKK hasn't killed anyone in years, so yeah, perhaps you're right, comparing them to the KKK is not even close... BLM is far worse nowadays.
Those are just incidents not what the whole group stands for. And 11 since 2004? If the whole movement was about killing cops and white people I think waaaay more people would had been killed. Besides people kill black people too are all white people bad too then?KKK was built on the ideology that black people aren't human and they just lynched and killed those people and it still exists.Blm is a movement that just talks about the lives of black peoples its not even the accurate to compare them together. You're pretending like Blm is walking around with hoods on their head killing white people left and right because they are white that's not where the movement is about or founded on
@catelyntje Incidents from people who belong to the BLM movement, who support their ideology. Also, Assata Shakur is one of their inspirations, and she's in the FBI most wanted list for killing cops.I said 2014.I didn't say Black people are bad, I'm saying BLM is bad. I know there's plenty of smart Black people who don't support this racist crap.BLM is a movement that talks about how cops are targeting Black people (despite more Whites being killed by cops... you're more likely to be killed by a cop if you're White, than if you're Black). They're using this narrative to push their racist beliefs on the rest of us. They're are part of the reason there's such race divisions in the US right now.The KKK also doesn't go around killing Black people, they did it back in the day, but today, BLM kills more than the KKK. No one gives a shit about the KKK, the most they do is a rally once or twice a year, but they don't kill anymore. I hate them too, but BLM is a bigger problem.
Oh ok so because a couple of people do something bad in your class all of a sudden your whole class is bad? No its just those people that are bad not your whole classOf course white people are killed more there are waaay more white peope living in the US then any other race duhh.. but if you look at the relatives it's clearly not the case hereThat separation was there way before that movement if anything it's the kkk that somehow can still exist that's doing soIt's easy for you to say nobody gives a shit about the kkk because they aren't organising meetings to talk about the hate of your skin colour
@catelyntje There's a difference between class and ideology. I'm talking about a political movement here. If you support a political movement that's based on racism and hate, even though you may not participate in their activities, you're still supporting them.When someone says they're more likely, they're talking about relatives. Especially considering Blacks commit more than half the violent crimes in the US, despite being just 13% of the population. Taking that into account, White people are more likely to get shot.The division wasn't as big the years prior to BLM. Everyone agrees the race relations have gotten worse since them.My point is that the KKK doesn't do much but rally, they don't go out killing or beating up people, hence why they're not much of a problem. Yes, they're racist pieces of shit too, but nowadays, they don't cause as much problem as BLM... not even close.
@catelyntje also blacks are responsible for more than half of the violent crime so it makes sense they are more likely to be killed by cops. Most black people aren't bad people , but more blacks are criminals than most whites https://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/
Again you're pretending like Blm whole ideology is about the hate of white people wtf no its not it's just some people in that groupLmao as if that's not even possible they can't commit more if they are less simply because you can't compare it. It's an unfair comparison. Cause let's say there are 60 blacks 200 whites and 20 blacks and 20 whites commit a crime it's not possible to make a static out of that because of course the procent of blacks is going to be higher cause they are lessYeah right that's division was always there that's how the US is built on I'm not from the US but even I learn in school how the Europeans settled thereStill not the same and if they don't do anything why do they even need to exist then? Clearly they are doing things
@catelyntje Umm it's a LOT, if not most, especially the leaders. Shaun King, aka Talcum X, is a racist piece of shit, and he has thousands and thousands of followers in Twitter. Sure, it may not be 100% of BLM who's racist, but the vast majority is.Umm yeah they can LMAO you can check the FBI statistics and see that 13% of the population commits more than 50% of the violent crimes xDI know, I'm not saying there was never a division, I'm saying it has gotten far worse since BLM.The only thing they do is get around to spew racist crap about non-Whites, that's it. You don't need to kill and beat people up to exist...
He never said kill all white people so I don't know what you are talking about Well yeah duhhh they still make statics but I'm saying they can't be accurate simply because there aren't the same amount of whites and blacks it's not a fair comparison I don't think so it's still the same"You don't need to kill and beat people up to exist..."Lol funny because that's exactly the ideology from the kkkAnyways I'm kinda done with this.All I'm saying is you can't compare the kkk with Blm since one of them is built on the genocide from blacks and the other one is just saying that their lives matter
@catelyntje I never said he did, but he's still a racist piece of shit lol Blame all Whites for your problems, build a platform based on hate, and eventually there's individuals that will take that to another level, but still following what you said.It is accurate. It's easy, just figure out who committed the crime, and that's it, add up all the numbers, and see how many crimes where committed by Blacks, and how many by Whites. It's very easy.Yeah, that's what they want, but it's not what they do anymore, yet they still exist.Whatever, I'm still gonna compare them with the KKK because that's exactly who they are: trash.
It's not accurate like you said there are less blacks then whites how is the static going to come out accurate?I'm not a star in math but even I know that are there 200 whites and 60 blacks and they both commit 20 crimes that the procent of blacks is going to be higher because they are less. It's not a fair comparison Whatever you're still wrong
@catelyntje keep in mind though commit a much larger percentage of violent crime and are more likely to use violence against cops so it makes sense they're more likely to be killed, even so cops killing blacks make up only 1 percent of blacks killed in homicides meanwhile black on black crime make up more than 90 percent of homicides not only that but cops are 18 times more likely to be killed by blacks than blacks are to be killed by cops
@Lumberman53 I ignored you the first time why are you still coming with your false statics. Leave me aloneAlso cops should never kill people that's what they are trained for. And other races kill each other too so bye
@catelyntje lol bye www.dailywire.com/.../7-statistics-you-need-know-about-black-black-crime-aaron-bandler
@Lumberman53 who gives a flying fuck about that other races kill each other too
@catelyntje www.truthrevolt.org/.../wapo-admits-vast-majority-police-shootings-justified scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/.../...t.cgi
@Lumberman53 why the fuck you still stalking me with false statics? You blocked me already now leave
@catelyntje Ok, dude, whatever you say
@catelyntje prove it's fake
@Lumberman53 Just leave it dude, it's not worth it. We both know the statistics are true... I'm pretty sure the FBI knows better lol
@Lumberman53 Obviously it's not fake but like I already explained its not a fair comparison since there are less blacks than whites. Its just like 2 apples and 10 tangerines and one is getting eating. That would make it 50% from the apples but only 1% from the tangerines while it's both just one being eating its not an accurate nor fair comparison simply because there are more tangerines.@aledeeurope you don't have to be rude about it
@Lumberman53 I meant 10% not 1%
@catelyntje I wasn't trying to be rude. I just think you don't understand what we mean by the percentages, because we're talking about the crimes here.For example, if there's 100 violent crimes committed, and 60 where committed by Blacks, while 40 where committed by Whites, then Blacks are responsible for 60% of the violent crimes. That's the point we're trying to make. It doesn't matter that there's more Whites than Blacks in the US, all that matters is the amount of crimes committed by each race.
You were rude af first with that whatever and then you come with your "Just leave it dude, it's not worth it. We both know the statistics are true..." like I'm just talking with that guy and you'll pretend like you're somehow better or something and yeah I do get it. And that's obviously not how percentages work
@catelyntje You were telling me I was wrong lmao dismissing everything I said, that's rude too xDAnd yeah, that's EXACTLY how percentages work lmao
That was after you said "Whatever, I'm still gonna compare them with the KKK because that's exactly who they are: trash." totally dismissing what I had saidEhh no its not you count the amount of people and the amount of crimes against the percentages
@catelyntje No. You need to know the number of crimes committed, and then from those crimes, the number of Blacks that where the perpetrators, and the number of Whites. Question: If you have 100 apples, and 60 of those apples were eaten by a girl, what was the percentage of apples that girl ate?
That's exactly what I'm saying wtfffffGo solve that yourself I'm not going to make your homework
@catelyntje So then you agree with my percentage lol If out of the 100 crimes, 60 were committed by a Black person, then 60% of the crimes were committed by Blacks. Come on... don't be like that
@AleDeEurope I'm glad someone gets it lol.
That's not how it works there are all different crimes there isn't just one crime so bullshit and no I don't agree with you
@catelyntje That's why I'm talking about violent crimes. Dude, just forget it, you don't understand it.
There isn't only one violent crime either all different ones. No you don't understand
@catelyntje That's why I said "if there's been 100 crimes..." clearly more than one crime.
Why are you still responding? I don't understand it anyway too dumb
@catelyntje Jesus Christ -_-
Part of that is because of the fear gang members strike into the hearts of these people. The man that was murdered was likely suspected of "snitchin" you really think it seems like a good idea to them when the killer lives next door and so do all his gang menbers? That being said yea the no switching attitude thats perpetuated within the community is ridiculous. And part of the problem is every day people of that community often glorify criminality in a way other communities don't.
Also when you say something to the police you die and your family would die so dont blame us we just do it out of fear.
I'm not Caucasian and I thinks it's easy for people to misunderstand, therefor they have # AllLivesMatter thing.
I understand that but what you have to realize is the issue is mainly directed at police violence towards blacks. Police brutality is an issue that effects low income Americans of all races not just blacks. The movement has not raised awareness but simply further damaged race relations. It has also sparked a lot of violence against whites like that autistic kid who was kidnapped and tortured in Chicago by teenagers yelling blacklivesmatter livestreamed on facebook. There are police officers who profile black people (all police officers profile in all situations this is very difficult to solve because you cannot prove what someone is thinking) It has also inspired militias and white supremacy groups to respond with violence. My point is it creates an us vs them mentality that does nothing but make matters worse. Because now you have white people blindly siding with police #bluelivesmatter etc... and it discredits the idea that maybe police in America abuse their power.
And those people may have been more inclined to. actually get involved and make a difference. But now they won't because theyve been branded the enemy. You can distance yourself from the people rioting looting occupying office spaces at college campuses attacking whites etc... but that is how people are choosing to represent the #blacklivesmatters movement. That is what is happening at these rallies. And it is doing nothing to solve the root of the problem.
@imtheman0048 I don't get it. Why is racism a "Black" people issue? You are concerned that "we" might do something that will really piss racists off? Isn't that a bit off? Racists will hate me no matter what I do. No matter what degree I hold, salary I make, or language I speak.I don't get it.
@RolandCuthbert No im saying it has aggravated racial tensions and we're seeing racists on both sides amp up their efforts. Why do you think the biggest contributor to the blacklivesmatter movement is George Soros? Do you think someone like that cares about "the struggle". Its divide and conquer its calculated social engineering.
Look at feminism, Mgtwo, Black lives matter all of those started with a good heart but some people corrupted the protest and got it all wrong now if someone say that they are with anyone that I have listed that will say that I'm stupid and this and that but what matters is how I represent that as an individual
@imtheman0048 Look you can think up all the insane crazed conspiracy theories that you wish. I barely have an idea about who George Soros is, much less care why he is contributing to BLM. I only know what the core movement stands for. And that is something we all can stand for. I don't suffer racists. I have spent a portion of my life trying figure out how to placate them. They are beyond my ability to satisfy because everything they are concerned about has to do with race. Racists were mad with me when O. J. went free, no matter how much I told them he was guilty. They are angry when a "Black" guy kills someone in California. They are mad with me over "Black" history month, when they can't name five "Black" people with notable contributions to our society.I cannot satisfy them. And I refuse to try. To pretend that racists have a legitimate gripe over BLM is to pretend they have a legitimate gripe over the civil rights movement. It makes no sense.
Why is it feminists fault that some women who claim to be feminists are out of their mind? That stuff happens with every group. Can I call Trump is a racist because Richard Spencer supports him? It is false association. Take true feminists at their word, just like you have to take everyone else. If one of the founders of BLM says something crazy, let her have it. But don't associate a nutcase with her simply because it gives you a way to avoid the topic.
There are a lot of things that black people had don't they contributed to our society and not because you dont know of any but there are a lot of hidden hero that we don't hear about.
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Madam, I must confess. I am not sure of what you are getting at. Are you saying, there isn't much known about "Black" history?
@RolandCuthbert I'm not saying that but I watch a station called viceland and there are more silent heroes that didn't get any recognition because they were black other than the ones that we know about
Well, I mean. . . look. I understand the whole "inclusion" angle. There are many "Black" people who want "Black" history/experience/culture to be fused into the American one. But that will always be problematic. I think they will always feel there isn't "enough" dpne. So I just say, if that history is important to you, do your best to learn about it. My fiancée is "White" and she was simply fascinated by "Hidden Figures". But I knew about the "Human Calculator" two decades ago. And that was before I figured out the truth about race and culture.
I'm talking about American tv station and I don't want to fuse it with my black history where I'm from because it's too different country and one race
Sorry madam, I am not sure what you trying to say.
Because you said that there are many black people who what the culture to be fused with American one
And I'm talking about American black history
Yes, there are many "Black" people who want "Black" history to be fused into the American story. You don't agree?I thought that is what you were saying that people don't know much about "Black" history. I agree.
I don't agree with that and that's what I was trying to say people don't know a lot about black history
Why would people learn about "Black" history in that case? If there has to be a separate focus, class, etc. on "Black" history. It would seem proper that people would be ignorant in that case. Nothing is wrong with that by the way.
I agree. I became sick of it when BLM decided to sit in during my city's pride parade. Pride is about the LGBT yet BLM decided to make it about black lives matter
@ciitruskiwi Thanks for understanding. They like to make everything about them.-. And anyone who supports them is just as ridiculous, like all of the losers that downvoted me lol
EXACTLY! Check my response.
@Tagita_Ann Amen to that
Check my response I think "matter" is all down to belief, thoughts and feelings. Nothing and nobody really is important unless anybody either wanted it or them to matter, think it or they mattered, felt that it or they mattered, or believed that it or they mattered.