Do you like Jordan Peterson and what do you think of him in general?

Do you like Jordan Peterson and what do you think of him in general?
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  • He's a pseudo-intellectual self-help guru disgruntled young men who doesn't have anything original to say really. His famous book consists of platitudes that you could find on motivational cat-posters decades ago already, just phrased as long and complicated sentences. Clean up your room! Keep your head up!

    He cherry-picks examples from the animal kingdom to justify his reactionary views on distribution of roles. Comparing lobsters to humans in that regard is outright unintelligent. As a psychologist he should know better, but it's very clear that he brings a lot of his ideological views into his work.

    His ideas about religion and atheism are a joke. He thinks Atheists who don't act immoral (don't steal, don't murder, don't rape, etc.) only do so because they're subconsciously Theists but don't know it. That type of pseudo-argumentation alone proves that he's completely anti-intellectual.

    The only reason why he even became so popular was because he deliberately lied about and misrepresented bill C-16, just so he could present himself as a victim of supposed compelled speech (that he completely made up) and the new anti-SJW messiah. Again, nothing new. There are hundreds of YouTube channels doing nothing but fearmonger about evul SJWs. It's really getting old. It's the new "red thread".

    I could go on and one. He's basically a right-wing... er, sorry, "classical liberal" Deepak Chopra. Most of what he says his mumbo-jumbo phrased in complicated sentences with big words, well articulated and in a usually calm manner - which is apparently all you need to make people believe what you have to say is meaningful and rational.

    If that's the new bar for intellectualism, we have a problem.

    I urge anyone to watch this debate between him and Matt Dillahunty. I think ever since this debate aired, more and more people have started seeing through his bullshit.
    https://youtu.be/FmH7JUeVQb8

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    • *self-help guru for disgruntled young men

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  • He's getting to the people that aren't invested in politics - he's telling people who just want to live their lives how they can go about improving them. He's appealing to what really matters to individual people and their individual lives. That's powerful stuff.

    We have all these pop culture icons or buzz celebrities involved in philosophy or politics. Names like Lena Dunham or Milo Yiannopoulis may seem like figures now, but 2 decades from now I genuinely think people will remember the name Peterson. He's helping people on a deeper level than all these hyper-political talking heads.

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What Girls Said 11

  • I think he's great. The Jordan Peterson revolution is so fascinating to me. He essentially just spews what most people would regard as common sense. He says it how it is when other people refuse to do so. I like how he communicates his points articulately, in ways that really make you think about what he said.

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  • usual knowit-all who doesn't live up to the things he preaches. and he is very incoherent when he talks jumping from one topic to another constantly which makes him hard to follow. so i rate him 6,5/10 as a teacher. and the pseudoevolutionary psychology explanations are too much some times.

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  • I've heard of him, but I have no opinion of him. Freshmen year of college, I started watching debates and sort of got absorbed with 'intellectuals." I'd watch video after video of them talking about this or that. I don't have time for that stuff anymore and tbh, I find it boring now and in no way relevant to my real life.

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  • His psychology and anti SJW stuff is good and I agree with. However, he says stuff like "Only shrewed economists say wars are fought for resources." Really? He's way to smart to believe that. Look at USA in Iraq for oil or Russia in Ukraine. Also he thinks porn is evil, to be fair I don't know the context in which he said that but still weird. It doesn't harm anyone.
    Then the second point is that he belittles white privilege into what SJWs say it is. He ignores the fact that whites in America INHERIT (Not money they worked for) 100k on average and blacks inherit 11k on average. That's a huge difference in a financial headstart.

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    • He was talking about assigning this obscure advantage to people because of their skin color - sure, it happens to some people - there are white and black and yellow and red people who have all benefited in different ways in their life from the color of their skin, but this racial blame applied to people based on the circumstances of their birth is rightly criticized.

      You know what I inherited? $0. I have no inheritance and my parents will be lucky to have a moderate retirement. So do all of those black people with 11k in inheritance money have some sort of "black privilege" over me, or do you think maybe it's not about race? I'm thinking the latter

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    • @yousir I never said everyone was in favour of it, so stop straw-manning me, yes raising mw can drive up inflation, but more often than not it is accompanied by policies which counter. In the case of Norway, they keep inflation low like that. FDR's new deal saw a stable inflation rate.

      Also, I'm in favour of democratic socialism, like Norway, because in those countries Productivity is high, people self report being extremely satisfied with the quality of life, living standards are higher, higher equality, population is healthier, but you won't hear that on Fox, or from Jordan Peterson, or wherever you get your news from.

    • Oh, you live in Norway then? I'm happy for you.

  • Generally I like him. I think sometimes he is so retarded his on focusing his talk around method that he loses sight of the need to communicate in a way his ideas reach more broadly. He lacks the emotional appeal at times with his approach. Not that he’s wrong... he could just use some polish at times.

    Like his interview with Bill Maher and that gang I thought he really came across very poorly even tho he was correct he didn’t really get to the core nor did he challenge the crew there on their basic assumptions.

    He’s actually one of my favorites and I find it fascinating how he breaks down words and speech into meaning.

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    • Wait.. retarded.. lol I don’t know what happened there but it should have read “so focused on his talk around method”. And should not have had that word

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    • Further one of the legislators specifically suggested that offending a transgender person through improper use of pronouns is a matter he believed could be was worthy of legal enforcement and could fairly managed by the court.

      Further, Dr Peterson’s argument was that the regulation was overly broad and poorly worded.

      Here is the testimony

      https://youtu.be/RzZGyuyJkUk

      I could go on and on but like I said, her agenda was pretty clear , her response really stood on its own and didn’t really need anything be to point out the faults.

    • Well said :)

  • He's smart and you know what your getting when he speaks

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  • Love him

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  • I never heard of him

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  • I've heard of him but I forgot what he's about?

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  • massively overrated

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  • Who?

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  • He's a very intelligent and articulate man. I don't agree with everything he says but he thinks everything through a great deal.
    I also love that he angers the SJWs. That always gives someone a bonus point in my book.

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  • Not going to lie, full homo for Jordan Peterson lol.

    Honestly, he’s one of the best thinkers in my opinion. I heard that he might be running for office in Canada, PR possibly. If that happens, I’d go to Canada, get legal citizenship there and vote for him.

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  • Not a fan, a very weird fellow if say so myself.

    I think the best discussion that I've currently seen with him was either his discussion with Sam Harris or Matt Dillahunty.

    Matt has a really good, short, review of their conversation that I think to do a great job covering it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LjYovTo4uc

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    • I thought that was actually an appalling reflection on the debate. I liked the debate, but he used this reflection to take potshots at Dr. Peterson rather than to use it for anything positive.

    • @yousir If that's how you take it.

  • He's a very swell guy.

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  • Who is he?

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  • Part 1
    He’s an intellectual, his book is filled with basic life rules as Peterson himself has even admitted are basic. They aren’t meant to be mind-blowing, they are basic rules to give yourself a foundation and you can choose to take them seriously or not. They are rules he is positing as important, not laws by which you need to abide.

    People call him a self-help guru as if he’s just a snake oil merchant but it’s hilarious to me because it’s so obvious that it’s true he is a self-help professional as a clinical psychologist. Like who doesn’t think a clinical psychologist is a self-help professional? Lol.

    I generally think of myself as a secular person but I am open to the idea of spirituality. Jordan Peterson considers all action religious in the sense that we innately have goals we would like to achieve but only act because of faith in the benefit of achieving those goals. Like you don’t get to chose what your interests are, it’s like you notice the things to which you are innately interested and decide to pursue.

    Peterson also has an issue with materialist presumptions that we are only matter and everything is an emergent property of matter. His response to ideas like this are to basically say things like are narratives real? Are ideas real? Are metaphysical things like love real? If not then why chase them at all? Are you ONLY matter in the physical sense or are you more than just matter? Are you just what you were born as or are you actually a pool of potential that can be drawn upon to affect the physical world?

    I think people are more than what they physically are, I think they’re matter but as a living being I think they are also their potential and it would be great if they took responsibility and realized their potential for themselves and the ones that love them and want to see them do well in their ONLY life that we know of.

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      People don’t like how he uses examples like lobsters. Thing is, we test on rats and all kinds of animals (which is disturbing in many respects) to see if drugs, procedures, or treatments have an effect close to what we expect before moving on to clinical human trials because that works. Biologically we have a serotonergic system that regulates our emotions in a remarkably similar way as lobsters in a hierarchy. The entire reason he puts this in the book is that hierarchies are naturally occurring as well as influenced by society. Society influences the goal of the hierarchy but the hierarchy is established as soon as a goal is posited. Also, he makes it clear that hierarchies tend towards corruption and it is the duty of people to try and resist corruption before the hierarchy flips over in violent revolution.

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    • That's an excellent overview for those who may not be aware. Thank you.

  • Whether you like him or not one fact stands - He is a conversational genius.

    We all can learn a lot from him.
    He also has an amazing ability of turning a heated pointless argument and steering it into sensible fruitful discussion like I've never seen from anyone else.

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    • do you have a response to pamina's answer?

    • She seems to have a well informed, and in my opinion, respectable opinion, all I really learned about him was his conversational skills and their psychological effect, that's all I care about, in that regard I can appreciate the man.

      About her answer I'll add to the fact that she's bringing politics into the matter, again, with all due respect but I don't take part in discussions on politics football nor religion over the Internet.

  • He's got some solid, intellectual viewpoints, despite the mass amounts of spin that gets thrown his way. He doesn't follow PC culture and so the media tends to lambast him and twist his words at every opportunity

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  • He is doing gods work (metaphorically speaking). I have the utmost respect for him as I have personally witnessed him personally turn a mans life around with his message.

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  • Anyone who doesn't like Jordan Peterson has never actually bothered to listen to what he says.

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    • There's nothing more irritating than typing a response and having it just disappear because someone didn't like it. If it's important for you to call me names then I should at least get the opportunity to read it. 😋

    • Well I wasn't expecting that lol, thanks man I'll keep that in mind :D

  • The guy studies and teaches clinical psychology and human behavior. Yet people try to debunk him and paint him to be this supremacist yet his whole career he taught about the atrocious abuse of power and how it negatively impact society.

    My mom studied psychology and abnormal psychology in college and she quite likes his work because of this.

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  • He’s great. It’s too bad the SJWs lie and twist his words. It’s so sad too because his messages are good. But I’m sure someone on here will call him “alt right” or racist or sexist even though none of those are even a tiny bit true.

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  • I'm not an expert on him, and I certainly haven't read his writings, but a lot of what he has said about political correctness and identity group politics (especially on today's college and university campuses) I agree with.

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  • I like the old-fashioned air of integrity about him. It kind of reminds me of Abe Lincoln?

    I also like that he takes young men seriously, because the norm is that it is always okay to dump on men.

    He's a bit too conservative/extreme for me. His path sounds very serious. Maybe a bit too serious. Also some of it is a bit too old-fashioned for my taste. Like "marry early and settle down", etc.

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  • Very intelligent man. I love listening to him and agree with his views. Glad he is a voice of reason.

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  • Inspiring man, has a lot of great ideas, has changed others lives for the better.
    The media constantly misrepresents him (on purpose) to make him look bad.

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  • He said because humans and lobsters react the same to antidepressants and because lobsters are hierarchical that means humans are naturally hierarchical. That is all you need to know about him lol.

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    • That's not what he said at all. What he said is that he doesn't believe people who claim that human hierarchies are social constructs, given that one of the oldest living things on the planet has a biologically sound hierarchy. That's what he said

    • What does them being old have to do with anything?

    • Just emphasizing that hierarchies have been a part of the world around us long before we were even here by most peoples' metrics

  • I think quite a few of his views are pseudoscientific at best. I've heard him criticize some liberal views as being unscientific but then he'll quote Jung or Nietzsche to rebut them and they aren't even scientists.

    He'll then claim that groups like feminists "have failed the scientific debate" but feminism isn't a scientific organization and never claimed to be.. It's a social movement.

    He misrepresents things with pseudoscience but does it in a clever and well articulated way. That's my view of the things I've seen of him.

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  • He's alright though I don't understand why he likes to dodge and dance around when asked about God and religion.

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  • To the 4 white knights that voted i dont like him, do you like the idea of getting arrested for not calling someone lergbloid insteaf of he?

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