But I think, from the information I read, the reality is that women are still earning less than men, even after taking maternity leave and differences in job titles and industries into account. I also read that women don't negotiate salaries as well as men do. And I am in support of doing something to make pay between genders fair
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The first thing listed when I google "gender pay gap" is : The Gender Pay Gap is 17.9% Australian Women's Empowerment www.security4women.org.au/economic/wellbeing
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If I'm not mistaken since many employers are required to pay for the insurance of their employees there are certain additional charges for female employees that may or may not be taken out of their pay check. So it's not so much that women are paid less for the same work but that they have greater expenses.
Maternity leave and such can cost a lot for an employer. In that sense if a pay check is smaller it may be due to that sort of extra benefit that men don't have. Men don't generally get maternity leave when their wife or parter has a baby but women do and quite frankly... that still has to be paid for.
So again... not lower pay so much as higher cost.
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It's not a "fact" because there is no way to define or measure it. It's a constant state of comparing apples to oranges. As an example, you hear things like "equal pay for equal work". But there is no such thing as equal work. No two people do equal work. Apples and oranges.
No two people have equal value either. Talk to just about any manager, and the actual work performance is only one criteria, and probably not even the most important. Most things they are concerned about are not easily defined or measured. This is the main reason for job interviews. It's not about your experience, it's about you as a person. You can't measure that. It's totally subjective.
You can never say that one person and another person have equal value. So it's impossible to talk about pay scale as if person A should get the same/higher/lower pay as person B.
In reality, with a few exceptions, pay is about how well you sell yourself, and how well you negotiate. You could make a valid argument that you are worth what you are able to get. There is so much talk about pay gaps for women, but two men can be sitting side by side, doing similar work, with one making triple what the other makes.
Any time you see numbers on these things, it's mostly nonsense. It's based on some arbitrary variables and definitions, which can never reflect the reality of how it works.
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While I believe there is a gap I don’t think it’s unfounded or discriminatory against women. When chosen profession, lifestyle factors (like working hours, maternity leave and career breaks for having children) and generic personality attributes are removed from the equation there is very little gap. For it to be called a discrimination gap the comparison between men and women needs to be like for like, apples with apples yet when two people in an industry standard job with the same education, experience and the same hours worked are put side by side there is no/very little discernible gap.
Why should women be paid more JUST for being women to cater for the fact they want to take off to have children? Why should they be paid more for a pink collar career they chose, such as nursing, teaching or social work instead of something that is well known to pay far better like STEM, industrial work like mining or trade and labour? It’s a choice, and one women are equally free to make when entering the career playing field
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