Do you believe the femenist movement is losing its purpose?

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  • Yes, it is not clear anymore what the purpose of the movement is. As a result many people are getting the wrong idea, damaging the movement image and dividing society even more.
    Vote A
  • No, the movement has always been solid on its goals. Opposition has been harsh nontheless noticeable progress has been made. The more support the movement gets the more united our society will be.
    Vote B
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  • I am a feminist but I want equality for both genders, so to me the definition of a feminist is a person that wants equality for all genders, I do not hate men and I don't hate women but I do hate bigoted men and women, people that blame everything on the opposite sex. Men are suppressed they get assaulted and raped, but because they are men their told to suck it up or be happy that they were assaulted, even the definition of rape is against them in a way, they're told how to look and how to act just like women so when people ask if it's easier to be a men or a women the answer is obviously neither because both sides have pressures dictated on to them by society. This fight between genders needs to stop so we can come together and fix what we have struggled with for awhile there shouldn't be things like oh he's a man he needs to look masculine or she's a woman she should be small and feminine, men can wear makeup and be pretty, women can belch and curse like sailors.

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    • I would argue that that would detract from the purpose of Feminism at all, which is Female Empowerment.

      If Feminism begins to include strong male voices and male leadership in the group, and focus on male issues from a male standpoint, will it really still be Feminism?

      Would this not just further divide and dilute Feminism's core message of Female Empowerment?

      Or should Feminism support and allow a separate group dedicate to male liberation from societies oppressive norms and narrow, toxic hierarchy take place instead?

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    • @SomeOtherGuy Dude I understand what your talking about but don't ever fucking say I don't want equality because I do. Just because I don't talk about my views of society doesn't mean that I don't want change, I know shits fucked up people are homeless, children are born in bad circumstances, people do some really fucked up shit just because they have the power to get away with it. So I know, I like to think that if intelligent people that looked past their views could come to together, shit would get done and maybe there'd be less problems. Also since you brought up prison sentences people who have raped or pedophiles in general don't get long sentences they get a few years and then probation with forced on therapy, some "recover" but that is a very small percentage. Most of the time they relapse and take an innocent victim again so why is it a bad thing to have long prison sentences with the exception of the falsely accused?

    • The highest rape rates since 1988 the highest estimate in women was 17.7 million in men of same year 2.78 million whether attempted rape or full, in prison more than 200,000 men are raped behind bars each year in women there are over 200,000. 21% transgender, gender queer and nonconforming are sexually assaulted of non-TGQN females, and 4% of non-TGQN males. The rate of suicide is highest in middle age white men, Forty of 2557 women and 41 of 1835 men admitted they had slept outside or in an abandoned building, their car, an emergency shelter, or a hotel due to financial hardship. The statistics of billionaires in gender since 2017, 2433 are men while in women it's only 321 around the world. These are actual statistics I researched

Most Helpful Guys

  • I think there's a real movement to discredit feminism being led by the Pussy Grabbers and Brett Kavanaughs of the world.

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    • O man, I was supposed to pick 1 person for each sex but this comment gave me a good laugh 😂.

  • good question. i don't think it's losing it's purpose as much as there are less things to fight for and the things they fight for are often times more difficult to accomplish or even figure out how to truly fight them... early it was far easier accomplishments (voting, workplace equality, pay gaps, etc) but now you get into more difficult to accomplish issues like sex trafficking and what not which are already illegal so you are not working against a single offender but rather a cloaked unseen plethora of offenders.

    kind of like black civil rights. the fight was easier when there were clearly defined institutions that you could address (schools, government, etc) but now you are simply fighting general racism which isn't coming from a single source and isn't always readily apparent who it comes from or how to fight it

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    • This needs to be made most honest opinion. It's succinent to the point and paints a clear picture of what is going on. There is still work to be done for the feminist movement but it is more or less dealing with societal issues that come from culture and other unseen forces. Of course there are radical feminists who have entered into misandry, but they don't paint the entire movement. Like anything it's always the most radical who have the loudest voices.

    • @coralee thank you... you are right unfortunately like all civil rights movements there will be those who are loud, proud and vehemently shouting things that are basically just their own views under the guise of the larger label. so there are many so called "feminist" who as you said are just misandrist

    • thanks for MHO

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What Girls Said 10

  • Absolutely. The movement has seemed to stray so far from its original purpose. Not to say there aren't good feminists, but there are also extremists, or feminazis, that honestly have ruined it.

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  • I´m not a feminist, I´m an individualist. Equal opportunities for all, not equal outcome. I also want meritocracy, which is blind to race and gender. The feminist movement has turned into manhating communists promoting honor violence and oppression of women in the name of islam. And the organization blocked me on twitter :-D

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  • Feminism is equality between men and women, but now it's literally "women are more superior than men, here's 100 reasons why." I believe a majority of feminists know the purpose and are only in for equality, but then we have good old Tumblr.

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    • Feminism has never been about true equality. Equality means equal rights AND equal responsibilities. Never in the history of the movement has a prominent feminist or feminist organization ever fought for men's rights or women's responsibilities.

  • I don’t know if i’d go as far as saying it’s losing it’s purpose, but I think a lot of people are mistaken on what feminism is, I think a lot of people think it’s an ‘I hate men’ campaign.

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    • It was originally that women and men should be equal. Now it’s turned into a men vs women thing. It’s wrong to think that it is. But there are a lot of male issues ignored by feminists.

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    • There are less male issues ignored by feminists than you think. I've met plenty of feminists who are tuned into Male issues.

      The biggest problem I see is that some women blame men, and some men blame women. In reality, it's a culture of power that a few men have enjoyed that they abuse at the expense of women and other men.
      Cultures of Masculinity and Femininity that reduce both to limited purpose, meant to serve these men.
      Want men to do hard labor and go to war for you? Tout it as quintessential manliness.
      Want women to look pretty, take care of your kids, and flirt with dashing young men? Have them believe it is the pinnacle of femininity.

      The people who try to rigidly define these things are your enemy, because they know they can use these identities to manipulate others.

    • I have noticed that a lot of Male activists tend to be hijacked by people who are trying to rigidly define masculinity again.

      I can understand Feminism combating them. It's just unfortunate that these men lose voice when this happens.

      And Feminism is definitely not equipped to empower men and help them with their issues like it does women.

  • Yes, it is not clear anymore what the purpose of the movement is. As a result many people are getting the wrong idea, damaging the movement image and dividing society even more.

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  • It was good at first but corrupted people just kept changing what the movement was for in the first place so it's just making the movement and the people involved look bad

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  • Message mr

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  • The problem lies in feminazis, not in feminists.
    Female supremacists and misandrists are not feminists, because feminism is about gender equality.
    If you don't follow the ideals of the original movement - you're not it, you're fake.
    Feminazis may falsely call themselves "feminists", but they are obviously lying.

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    • I don't know If I agree with that kind of gatekeeping.

      Plus, those women are feminists. You just don't like the way they portray Feminism. But they are.

      Feminism is not a monolith. It does not have a hierarchy or leader at the top. It does not adhere to a strict code. It focuses on one thing. Empowering women.
      Gender Equality is debatable, since Valerie Solanas was a notable and celebrated Feminist. The SCUM Manifesto, of which she authored, is a piece of Feminist literature.

      However, those works and that person are nothing more than a minority of Feminism. But still, it is Feminism. It is just considered radical.

      You can still call yourself a Feminist and disagree with other branches of Feminism. It is not a monolith. There are good Feminist projects and because of it's non-hierarchical structure, you are free to pursue your own ideals within it.

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    • That is exactly why you should not deny radical feminism. Because it has been validated by Feminism. It has been validated by your enemies. It is a brand of feminism. You cannot invalidate it to save face and not expect to be called out on it by both Feminists and Anti-Feminists.

      You also don't have to fall into the false argument anti-feminists try to construct that Feminism is a monolith, and that radical feminism is it's face.
      Because it's not. It has many valid ideologies that are emerging from it, due it it's non hierarchical structure.

      Radical Feminism need not be your brand of Feminism. It certainly is not mine. But to an anti-feminist, I can safely argue that yes, that is a form of Feminism. But no, most feminists do not believe in that brand of Feminism. I would argue that anyone can be a part of Feminism should the ideologies of a genre of Feminism appeal to them, without taking on the ideologies of another genre. Especially because some of them conflict.

    • @SomeOtherGuy I know what feminism is, you don't, so you should learn it, you talk too much, but you don't say anything relevant, you're just proving your ignorance.
      Blue is blue, and it will always be blue, sure there is light blue, dark blue, medium blue, but it's all color blue.
      Feminism is movement for gender equality, there are liberal feminist, there are traditional feminist, there are socialist feminists etc - but they are all for gender equality.
      Feminazis are NOT feminists, they are fake, because they are for female supremacy, therefore, they are NOT following the main ideal of feminism.

  • I can’t tell you what’s currently happening SPECIFICALLY in the US because I’m currently living in Canada.

    Feminism in theory, is a movement that wants women to have equal rights AND treatment. This implies that women have less rights and are being treated as inferior or as objects.

    I think women have all the rights we need. That’s the legal aspect. But when you really take a look at what’s happening on the social aspect? Totally different story. Women aren’t treated as they should be, socially. A few of the issues women (mostly) face are: rape, catcalling, patronizing attitudes, not being taken seriously, stereotype and unfair gender roles.

    All of these add up and then women protest against this unequal treatment. Men, seeing that happening, believe women are just being dramatic (again appealing to the stereotype, without even knowing it) and complain about women’s complaints. This turns into a huge war between the sexes... and so on and so forth.

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What Guys Said 40

  • For most of us, the word "feminism" evokes thoughts of very angry women who want to spew venom at men, women who hate the idea of heterosexual sex, and women who would even favor eliminating men from the planet (though they will never openly admit to harboring such extreme feelings.) Of course, these women epitomize hypocrisy because, while they hate men, they would not exist if their mother had not engaged in sex with a man.

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  • It has strayed from it’s original cause. While the movement has always had issues within it, it has gotten so much worse in recent years (2010-present) with it’s gynocentric and misandrist ideology causing males and females to become divided.

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  • The original intent was to bring equality to women, but nowadays it's more about giving privilege to women.

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  • It already lost.
    I don't see feminist movement being active in countries like Saudi Arabia. Maybe because SJWs would tell me, that that's their culture and I'm racist being against muslims. But we all know that muslim ain't race.
    I'm against every religion. Against that very concept. And also about social justice. Or some other things.
    Why do I talk about SJWs in feminism article? Well, let me ask you this. What's the difference. No, no. Not ideology, what they ACTUALLY do. I'll give you an example. People's republic of China. People's would suggest me that it's higly about the will of the people. Republic would tell me…well…it's republic. However. Current president Xi, aka winnie the pooh (I'm sorry, but…how retarded do you have to be to say to the internet that you don't like when people call you like this and you make it punishable? You are asking for it at that time!) is president for life. So much for democracy, right? How about censorship? So…the label is just big lie. The ideology isn't what's actually happens. Same with feminism.
    So, please. All feminist women. Go fight in middle-east countires for right of women. Go on. We'll se, how many of you will remain alive.
    And SJWs, if killing people because of religion is cool, then…well, I acutally don't have anything to say about that.

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  • I'm voting B, because there's way more anti-feminism than there is ridiculous feminism (e. g. the "all PiV sex is rape" woman.)

    Do you believe the femenist movement is losing its purpose?

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  • 20 years ago when I hear "feminism" I was thinking about a great movement fighting for good things like equality of treatment, income or rights beetwin men and women. It was something very positive in my mind.
    Nowadays, when I hear "feminism", I just roll my eyes and wonder : "what did this retards found to blame men again this time? lack of pockets on female clothes? the size of the new Iphone?"

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  • The thing is that more and more people see it as an act of extremism, in which only creates people who walk away from the whole truth of what it once was.

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  • No way. College educated, white upper middle class Western women are more oppressed than EVER these days. Why just yesterday I saw a guy sitting with his legs spread too wide on the subway. How could you think its losing its purpose?

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  • The only purpose of the feminist movement was to place women on a legal pedestal above men. And now that they have accomplished that, they are intent on further devaluation men and removing any rights we still have. Artificial wombs and sex robots are soon going to make females obsolete.

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  • It's easy to say it's lost it's purpose, but the fact is it hasn't. It's purpose is the same as it's always been: hatred and envy of men and special privileges for women.

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  • Nope, just it's direction. There are plenty of women and girls truly suffering all around the world. There just isn't any justifiable reason for their attitude and behavior in western society.

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  • Of course it has. It went from equal rights and pay, to 'we don't need no stinkin' men'. That's where they pretty much lost everyone, from both genders.

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  • feminism never had a true purpose. it was funded by the rockefellers (richest family in america) from the beginning as a means to make women pay taxes and end homeschooling. (it succeeded)

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  • Neither of the two options hers are accurate. No ones "getting the wrong idea". Feminism is a cancer, filled with deluded misandrists.

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  • It's starting to collapse and I for one am enjoying every moment. The Kavanaugh case was the beginning of the end for SJW Feminism. Now the left can get back true equality movements.

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  • i voted b but i would add some feminists have the wrong idea of what it means and many more anti feminists have taken it the wrong way too.

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  • It's purpose was to implant communistic ideas in the minds of impressionable young people. I'd say it's succeeded.

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  • Depends on the feminist in question, some take it too far others are very grounded, in the US things went crazy, here in Portugal civil discussion is still possible

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  • Yes, it is not clear anymore what the purpose of the movement is. As a result many people are getting the wrong idea, damaging the movement image and dividing society even more.

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  • It never had a purpose to begin with it was just girls getting together to have a tantrum.

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  • No, it's not losing its purpose since it has lost it many years ago. You can't lose something you already lost.

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  • Feminism was created by Communist Jews to be one facet of a larger plan to destroy Western Civilisation.
    The first stage was to give women voting rights, because women tend to be irrational bleeding hearts, who seek security rather than opportunity. For this reason, women are more likely than men to vote for whatever lying face of Socialism (aka Communism) is presented to them.
    There have been many objectives since the vote.
    The current main objective is to cause fewer white babies to be born, by turning men and women into enemies via victim culture indoctrination, which has been weaponised by grotesquely unjust divorce law.
    Today, no Western man who was in possession of both the facts and a rational mind would date women, much less marry or cohabit with one.

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  • It's lost its purpose long ago
    Instead of striving for actual women rights in places where women get beaten up by their husbands or illegalizing activities that disrespect a woman like catcalling or random ass slaps, all they do now is ruin the lives of innocent good men by accusing them of sexual offences, it's become a cruel way for women to gain even more power, in places where feminism is accepted of course

    Instead of sharing the power and support they are getting with women worldwide to help them, they just keep it to themselves and use it to destroy lives and benefit of it, it's selfish, evil, despicable, and unfair

    Sad, really

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  • Neither of those options. Feminism was always a terrible movement.

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  • Losing? He already lost it, and all the people in it lost it too.

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  • It's already lost it's purpose. It started losing it's purpose in the 70's.

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  • It already lost its purpose long ago.

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  • It's been losing its purpose for decades.

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  • Losing? No. Lost? Absolutely.

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  • Gagers is a sample study of rest of society

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