Men are objectifying, women are materialistic? Agree or disagree? Explain?

Cases for why men are objectifying:

•men have more fetishes on women’s body parts than women do
•men, on average, don’t care about a woman’s celebrity or fame status. If she’s attractive, she’s attractive
•There’s a reason why women on Instagram and social media have millions of followers and make lots of money just for posting half naked pictures.

Cases for why women are materialistic:

•I don’t know if this is the majority or not, but many women would sleep with a man based off of his fame, celebrity status, and material possessions.

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  • I mean, there's no denying there's at least a little truth in that. It all depends on the person however, classifying EVERYONE in those categories isn't fair.

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  • Yes, some men objectify women. Just like some women objectify men.
    Yes, some women are materialistic. Just like some men are materialistic.
    Human problems, not gender problems.

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    • On average is what I’m trying to say. On the individual level, you’re right, but on average, there has to be degrees of differences on certain issues between the genders

    • There has to be degrees, certainly, but it's impossible to take an honest survey on this. The only assumptions we can make are based on what we view, which is biased and questionable to say the least.

  • - Men do have more fetishes on women’s body parts, but that is only because they have more “private” parts than men. Men only have ass and dick. Women have breasts too.

    - Well, on average it is definitely a bonus if she’s a celebrity or if she has a high social status. It’s not that he doesn’t care, but it makes her more attractive (IF she is decently attractive)

    - They have millions of followers but it’s not because of men. It is mostly because younger girls follow them and look up to their sense of fashion and appearance (a role model)

    - On average a woman wouldn’t sleep with a guy only because he’s rich. Most girls just wouldn’t.

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    • 1. Well, how about fetishes on feet? Legs? Latex? Whip cream? Dominating? Deep throat? Cuckolding? These are all fetishes men have and they basically objectify women. That’s why women don’t have nearly as much fetishes because they don’t think like men. Non objectifying
      -Men do not care if an attractive woman is famous or not. If she’s attractive, she’s attractive. The reverse isn’t as true. Men with social status bang plenty of women, despite being unattractive. No man wants to bang an unattractive woman just because she’s famous. It’s NOT the same
      -no, it’s mainly men following these women on Instagram because of their half naked pics
      -not just because he’s rich, other factors too. The reverse isn’t nearly as true. There’s much more women willing to sleep with a famous rich man than a man is willing to sleep with a famous rich woman

    • 1. Foot fetishes are also common amongst women. BDSM also, but most women would rather take a submissive role. It’s still a fetish and they’re objectifying the man too. And themselves. Cuckolding, the female version would be 3 women and 1 man. Lots of women have that fetish.

      2. It’s narrow minded of you to say that they don’t care. If she’s hot and famous he’ll mainly like her because she’s hot and is a good person. The fame is a bonus not a requirement. If she’s attractive he’s not gonna say “oh god I wish she was famous” but I’ve also never heard of a female who would reject a guy because he hasn’t have a high social status. That’s why they even made up a label for those women. Gold diggers.
      Women with social status also bang plenty of men. I can assure you of that. It’s again narrow of you to say that there’s absolutely no guy that would bang an ugly famous woman. That’s highly untrue.

      3. ... no. Most men don’t even have Instagram.

      4. Yeah. I agree.

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What Girls Said 8

  • I have more fetishes on mens body parts than men do, wrong sorry

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  • Diasgree. While what you are saying isn't false, this is a big generalization that just isn't true, plus you can't deny that in the modern world, influence of media is quite strong. If I bring up media then I would have to bring up a lot more things but I don't want to dig too deep into it right now.

    So my answer is, I disagree.

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    • Oh it, s true alright. It it a bit of a generalization, and your right about the media, I, d add feminism and hook up culture next to that.

  • We are living in a material world.
    And I am a material girl.

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  • We also objectify men but yeah fame and status does play a role

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    • Yeah women might, but not in the same severity or degree as men in my opinion.

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    • In a different way yes AND different degree. I think men do it to a higher degree and don’t even know it. It’s the reason why porn sells so well, why there’s half naked ring girls, why instagram gals make lots of money, and why fetishes are more abundant in men than women

    • I agree with you

  • Or vise versa. Both sides can use the other.

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  • I don't think that's the majority of women but both men and women can be either objectifying and materialistic. Maybe both.

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  • Somehow I think so. Though I know way more women that truly aren't materialistic than men who don't objectify women (maybe some gay guys lol).

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  • Speaking for myself, I wouldn’t sleep with a man because of what he has or who he is. I grew up with an abusive father. I’d rather have the love and respect of a man, that’s all that matters to me, just as long as there’s love, kindness and happiness in my relationship then I have all I need.

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  • i just don't agree on any notions like these because it relies on generalizations rather than objectivity.

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    • Well, individually speaking, people are different, but I’m talking on a general scale.

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    • @PoliceLivesMatter Yeah, I was agreeing with you. Generalization can and should be made. We shouldn't necessarily judge people by them but they certainly offer a great deal of value in understanding people, animals, plants, the entire world.

    • @backdoorman i don't see any reason why we "should" generalize than men objectify women or women are materialistic. i don't see any need for it or how it's even all that helpful

      obviously you can engage in generalizations. i just tend not to.

  • I think that's how the worst cases tend to work, but I don't everyone is so bad, at least here. I've at least met a very good share of decent people if only through luck. I don't think every guy who checks out a girl's butt sees her like a sex doll (he could merely be attracted), and I don't think every girl who wants a guy with a stable job is a gold digger (she might just want the man to be self-sufficient).

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    • There's quite a difference between finding these things attractive and only being attracted to these things.

    • I suspect these things are often more complex than people might make out as well. For example, I've been drawn to women of wealth and status. But it wasn't so much the fame and status but the qualities that accompanied it like competence and ambition and talent that earned them these things. I have to at least give the benefit of the doubt that women might be similar in this regard and that not all are merely attracted on these dimensions.

      That's not to dismiss the problem of people who are only attracted to bodies or wealth or whatever. I think there's a discouraging number. But simultaneously I think too many people are quick to think that anyone who finds such qualities attractive is attracted only to such traits.

    • What I can confidently say is that not every woman who dates a man with a nice job is gold-digger, and not every guy whose gaze falls to a woman's breasts or butt is looking to pump and dump.

  • You have made a good coherent argument there to back up the points you made.
    I would say that while what you say is applicable to many men and women, it wouldn't apply to the majority. Your first and second points are debatable. Your last point could be insulting to many women.
    Given the shallowness of many in society today, you could agree with what you said.

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  • The entire question generalises all men as objectifying and all women as materialistic. I have to disagree, we don't live in hollywood films where women are just used to boost the man's masculinity, and women don't chase the guys who have good looks and lots of money. Anyone who unfortunately falls under those categories are just sad and pathetic

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  • Both are objectified it just depends on the object. women are ornaments men are tools.

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  • Or men like beauty, women like security. And it comes across as shallow sometimes, and sometimes they are just shallow. I guess..

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  • Seems like a decent take for averages.

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  • Pretty much, for the most part

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  • I agree

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  • Yes, men and woman share many similarities especially when they are in same group of people.

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  • Women are slowly objectifying men more these days thanks to porn.
    It shows by how much some women value penis size above other traits.

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  • Very true

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