What's your opinion on Consumerism?

In my opinion, the worst thing about consumerism is its signature blend with human relations, it's a disaster that creates generations of adult childs who are stuck up in the infantile experimentation phase. Their intelligence, of course, remains proportional to their own mental age, which is somewhat around 4yo.

It seems like today it's a revolutionary secret to say that quality cannot stem from quantity - a value is not a weight.
What's your opinion on Consumerism?

What's your opinion on Consumerism?

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  • I have no idea

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  • I think there’s some truth to that Chesterton quote. Consumerism is dangerous when mishandled, and the culture around us promotes us to do so. “Keeping up with the Joneses” definitely is a huge problem in society. I’m thinking a lot about money lately, because I’m about to come into a pretty decent sized inheritance, and then there’s a lot more coming when my dad goes, which at his age, is unfortunately sooner rather than later, probably. But my dad worked in investments most of his life, so he and I have had some long talks recently because I’m just trying to get all the game I can from him. With this money I’m coming into, he tells me I have WAY more money than he did at 40, and he looks to be doing pretty well for himself at 86, so he managed to build something from less, with less time than I’ll have, and that’s definitely intriguing to me. I’m not a big spender. I’m not a big saver either, but that’s just from living paycheck to paycheck, and due to some family health issues, I’m supporting everything, so the “pay yourself first” idea is impossible at the moment. I have some savings, but it’s not what I wish it was. So this windfall is a very, very fortunate occurance (other than losing my mom of course, i’d give all the money back to have my mother alive), and I’ve been scrambling to learn everything I can about money management in advance of the process of her estate being settled.

    Now you might read all that and think I’m looking to make big money so I can have a big house and a fancy car and expensive appliances, but that’s not what I want to buy at all. The best thing I can buy with my money is LIFE. I want to buy back my time that I currently spend slaving for another family’s fortune. I’ll buy a nice, but fairly modest home, I’ll forever buy slightly used cars that some other idiot already took the automatic depreciation of driving it off the lot, and there aren’t a whole lot of possessions that I really covet that i’d go buy if I had the money in my hand today. I prefer to spend on life experiences: travel, concerts, sporting events, etc, but even that in moderation.

    My girlfriend watches those “Teen Mom” shows, and I cringed when I saw one of the girls, who now is like three kids deep at 23, and she has this tricked out Dodge Charger. These girls get paid, but it can’t be THAT much, and it blows my mind that you wouldn’t take that basically free $100k or whatever and invest it, and then have like a million dollars down the line. Too much focus...

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      ... on obtaining possessions and spending your money on tangible items that you really don’t need or don’t need something so extravagant. I’d much rather live basic, wake up everyday and just go fishing or doing whatever, instead of putting a shirt and tie on and making sure some other guy gets to do that. Fuck that. So I’m in kind of an unusual spot, I’m getting a major gift here, that basically erases me not having money to invest the last 20 years, and I’m so unbelievably fortunate for that. The last thing I want to do is go on a spending spree. So I have to wear that tie a little longer, but I know it’s the smart thing to do so I’m not working at Walmart when I’m 75 because I have no savings. That seems much worse of a fate than working at 40, haha.

      To all you young’uns, I leave you with this: a VERY refreshing scene of a young person with admittedly uncommon money to start with, but this concept can be applied to lesser amounts and still pay off greatly for you...

    • 6d

      I give you the 8th wonder of the world, as Einstein called it: the magic that is compound interest. Learn it. Know it. LIVE IT. Or in the words of Einstein: “He who understands it... earns it. He who does not... pays it.”

      What side do you want to be on?

      https://youtu.be/uN9WSgeETCo

  • People in America bought pet rocks. I saw on E bay where a guy was selling jars of mud. Most everyone I know who has an Apple computer, told they bought it just for the Apple logo.
    Most people are stupid. I don't care what they buy because it doesn't concern me.

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  • It is much more the doing of the welfare state that encourages the non-forming and break up of families.

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    • 6d

      Thank you!

    • 5d

      Upper classes don't rely on welfare benefits and they face the same problems. Aversion to marriage, no responsibilities, divorce, aversion to educate their own kids (they think it's a school's responsibility), many will not ever constitute a family.

      How do you explain that?

    • 5d

      @EmperorOfRussia
      You are simply incorrect.

      90% of the top 10% of households are married. 90% of the bottom 10% of households are not.

      I live in an upper class neighborhood, the median household income is probably around $160,000 (a much higher average). I am not aware of any household with kids that is not married.

      The big complaint of SJWs is that upper class families pay extra money to educate their own kids, but not those kids of the lower class. This is true directly through tutoring and indirectly by choosing to live in high performing school districts.

  • It’s only a problem if people lose site of what really matters in life.

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  • Like many issues it's not simply black or white.

    It's got it's merits and also it's demons.

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  • I think consumerism has its flaws and there needs to be more to life. That being said. . . Socialism does not work as a system. It works as a pen for a system, much like law and capitalism.

    We're not going back into socialist systems. Socialist systems revolve around everyone being equally poor and miserable and punishments for not fitting that mold are much more brutal and unreasonable. Lest we forget THE FUCKING GULAG ARCHEPILAGO!!! Even Soviet Russia couldn't defend socialism after that. . . .

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    • 5d

      What has socialism to do with this discussion? If anyone doesn't support a consumerist worldview that is harmful to society is it because they like socialism?

  • It is what drives the American economy. The reason we have not really recovered is because of poor retail sales.

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  • The Soviet Union and the people’s republic of China were such bastion for humanity (cough).

    You Marxist liberals are insane

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    • 5d

      Since when am I a "marxist liberal"?

      Look, you Americans are the living refutation of the Cartesian axiom, "I think, therefore I am": Americans do not think, yet you are. Maybe it's because you have fried potato instead of a brain and can't realize that consumerism is a product of a moral liberal worldview, just like individualism.

      It explains why America is a den of SJWs, feminists, black supremacists, antifas and cucks. And you have no power to defeat them, where's your wall? What about the American mainstream culture - the garbage that your country push to the entire world - is 100% liberal, am I wrong? You just are airheaded enough to not connect the dots.

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    • 5d

      Those SJW scum are the product of a failed society and failed parents. The "american way of life" led to this path, in conjunction with cultural marxists.

    • 5d

      I agree with you on that. I think you misunderstood where I was coming from earlier.

  • Feminism has destroyed the family and not necessarily consumerism.

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    • 6d

      Feminism IS a result of consumerism.

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    • 6d

      Yes. And it fits perfectly a consumerist society. Women being a mediocre copy of men and men being like women. At the end, all that left is to spend money with frivolities.

    • 6d

      I have to disagree about the feminism aspect but I do agree with the rest

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