If gun control works, why are gun-crime rates so high in countries such as Mexico and Brazil?

Two places with very strict gun laws...

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  • Because gun control doesn't work. Gun control is not designed to prevent crime, it is designed to prevent average citizens from owning and carrying guns (or at least making it more difficult for them to do so, namely for self-defense). In countries like Brazil and Mexico, criminal gangs have easy access to them, while regular citizens do not. Sure, some are smuggled from the USA or other countries with more lax laws, but that only proves that criminals, namely organized gangs, can always find a way to get them. Corruption and thefts from the authorities also are a major source of (military-grade) illegal firearms in Mexico and Brazil.

    Where I live (red state), gun ownership is widespread, and many people (myself included) are licensed to carry concealed weapons. Except for the gang-ridden pockets of certain cities here, crime is pretty low, and violent crimes like carjackings and muggings are rare. Why? Many people are armed, and criminals know it. They know that trying to attack somebody can easily get them killed. Who benefits? The ordinary, law-abiding citizens. We're NEVER giving them up, no matter what the know-it-all elitists on CNN or in NY/CA say.

    In contrast, a neighboring blue state that has much stricter gun laws,(especially in it's largest city, with even stricter local laws), has a much higher crime rate. Criminals there are much more emboldened, because fewer citizens are armed. When criminals are emboldened, they become more brazen and confident, in a never-ending cycle.

    Gun control overwhelmingly affects the poor and working classes, as well as minorities. Most of the affluent advocates for gun control live in prestigious, gated communities, where police response times and (ironically and hypocritically) private armed security keep crime away. The poorer people in the most crime-ridden areas are left to fend for themselves, and the easiest way is with their own firearms. Strict gun control robs these people of their ability to protect themselves from the crime that the backers of said legislation are shielded from.

    Most places with low crime rates have great police protection, and have less societal tolerance to crime and degeneracy. Examples include Japan (strict gun control) and Czech Republic (gun-friendly). Most places with high crime rates tend to have poor or non-existent law enforcement, corruption, widespread poverty, and a cultural tolerance of crime and degradation. Brazil, Mexico, Venezuela, and Honduras are all prime examples. The availability (or lack thereof) of firearms is irrelevant. And regardless, denying law-abiding average citizens the right to own and carry firearms for self-defense has no benefits, regardless of what some billionaire with armed bodyguards may say.

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  • Income inequality, state corruption, lack of social programs, lack of affordable housing, malnutrition, organized crime, unequal economic development and unequal distribution of revenue from natural resources, just to name a few.

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  • I don't think anyone said gun control works.

    I think we just said that Americans are mental.

    But yeah, use third world shitholes for comparisons sake.

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  • It is said the son of arms dealer in Thailand went to school in switzerland where every students go to school by helicopter everyday.
    It is mystery school.

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  • Because they get guns from the black market, and the innocent citizens have no guns to protect themselves with...

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  • What @patrickjvv said, and there's plenty of countries where it does work.

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  • They have laws but they don't enforce them, that's why.

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  • Or that murders, rapes, and homicides happen in Japan.

    Super strict gun control, but killing still happens

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      Homicide rate in Japan per capita per 100000 people: 0.4
      Britain: 1.2
      US: 4.8.

      So there are 4 times as many murders in the US than there are in the UK. And 12 times as many in the US than Japan.

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      @Levin The point is it still happens. The gun is but a tool to make it easier. Something else is going on that combines with the murder tool. People get murdered in safe places too.

  • If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns. That and a huge drug trade.

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  • Dont you know that prisons are the safest place in the world?

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  • corruption tumps all laws.

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  • Lack of control by central government

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  • They get guns from Amarica.

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  • corruption

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  • Because they don't

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