Do you believe that women's looks and thus, value in the sexual marketplace begins to decline in their 30s? Or in other words do they "hit the wall"?

I don't subscribe to the MGTOW movement and I never stated my opinion on it either.

This is a common belief and contributing factor in the MGTOW (Men going their own way) movement, which posits that women "hit the wall" in their 30s so to speak, and then wonder where "all the good guys have gone?" to which they're utterly oblivious that these "good guys" were rejected by these women in their prime during their 20s, also during which they were dating andand bang the bad boys and jerks instead. By the time thesethese hit the wall, they then begin to notice the good guys and decide to chase after them because the hot guys don't want them no more.

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..."where all the good guys have gone?" to which they're utterly oblivious that these "good guys" were rejected by these women in their prime during their 20s, also during which they were dating and banging the bad boys and jerks instead. By the time these women hit the wall, they then begin to notice the good guys and decide to chase after them because the hot guys don't want them no more.

*Fixed some grammatical errors.

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  • In general? No. I've seen many women who are 30 and over who could still easily pass as being in their twenties. Hell, I'm 24 and I still look like I could be 16. Strangers regularly think I'm underage.

    Guys who spew this shit fail to realize that men are aging just as women. Men are losing the hair on top of their head, getting beer bellies, and becoming more wrinkly. Men are not exempt from this rule, and the average guy does not end up looking like George Clooney (contrary to popular belief). And get this, that's totally fine. We all age, some a bit more gracefully than others. I think men who talk shit like that are way too focused on trying to bring women down. They should put more of that energy on trying to become better people instead, and stop worrying so much about other people's looks. It's extremely shallow.

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    • Girl I'm sorry but you are SO in denial. Men age WAYYYYY better than women, and I mean like 20 million times better. We also don't wear makeup, and that shit will ruin your real skin over time.

      You target shit that happens to disgusting unfit men only. Between an in shape man and an in shape woman, it's night and day which sex ages better, don't even argue it. I'm not trying to bring women down, I'm literally just stating facts. Beer bellies are something you get if you over indulge in beer, it's a stereotype and has nothing to do with being biologically male. Wrinkles are for smokers or those who squint too much or alcoholics or w/e, most men don't get wrinkles till they are very old and are affected much less than women. Not all men lose their hair either, and I've seen bald dudes slay women, just sayin.

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      ... kewl story, truth disagrees with you >.>

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      @No_Archons your opinion =/= the truth but ok

  • No, I truly believe that, the men who says this, are the most unattractive annoying men walking the Earth.

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  • Yes for a good majority of women that is true especially these days. It's very common these days to see women still in their 20's that look like they're in their 40's. And then there's the fertility issues with women over 30 which is where feminism has tricked women on a grand scale.

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  • The women in here are quite in denial for most women yes their looks do begin to decline and rightfully so because it takes away the entitlement they believe they had when they were in their prime.

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  • Some people reach their prime earlier than others. But they all decrease gradually in looks and appeal after a certain point.

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  • Unless a man is looking for someone to bear him children, age isn't a huge factor. I was a player from age 16 until my late 30s, when I decided that I should think about finding a life partner and settle down.

    Young women are cute and fresh as hell, but the sexiest woman I ever knew (I wound up living with her for over a year) was 33 years old. She was long divorced and had a teen age son who didn't live with her. She was in great shape, really, really liked sex and was expert at it. I won't say her body was as flawless as a freshly budded 18 year old. It had filled out into full womanhood and was more like a perfect, fully bloomed flower. She was all woman, cute as hell, had perfect measurements, and was as juicy and cuddly as all get out. When I was young I liked young-looking women. As I grew older I came to appreciate that natural fat layer that accumulates on women even when they are really fit.

    Women don't automatically hit a wall at a certain age because there are guys their same age - guys like me who had remained single on purpose, divorced guys, and guys whose spouses have passed away.

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  • confusing question, i could answer you honestly, but i'm afraid you'd yell at me.. so i'll just say what you want me to hear. i am a woman in my 30s and everything sucks. i am so sad that i rejected all the nice gentlemen in my past who would hold the door open for me and then call me a bitch when i didn't suck their dick on the spot. i wasted all my time fucking jocks because i really like guys who are idiots and can't hold engaging conversations. now my value as a human being is all dried up like my vagina and my tits sag lower than my stocks in the "sexual marketplace" (which is definitely a real thing). poor slutty me

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  • What you said in your update is the correct answer. Their Sexual Market Value decreases while their desire for starting a family (if they haven't yet) increases. But most good men are no longer interested in those women. Some guys would use them to satisfy their milf fetish. And that's it.

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  • Looks are a natural indicator but it's not the real reason the wall exists.

    I think "the wall" is actually referring to her ability to have children. Women who have "hit the wall" are past their reproductive prime. If she hasn't had children before hitting the wall then she'll find it much more difficult to lock down a single man who wants to settle down.

    On top of the increased difficulty in finding a mate; there's also a much shorter time frame left before being rendered infertile.

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  • Women’s physical appearance decline as they age. It’s a fact which is why so many facial products and makeup exist. The theory is that women’s appearance peak at or around 26-30 and start declining. That is not to say they are no longer attractive but not as attractive.

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  • Not applicable. At 34 I’m in better shape than I was at 22 and I’m routinely approached by men as young as 18-20. I’ve never had a problem getting or keeping good guys around in my life. It’s only gotten easier as I’ve gotten older.

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  • I think women start looking their best in their 30s.

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  • There are many exceptions to the rule, but in general things that signal that someone is good for reproduction are seen as sexually attractive.

    Men can reproduce into old age and womens reproductive ability is limited when they get into their late thirties or beyond.

    Women can look sexually attractive in their 40's if they don't look their age.

    And I'll stress it again there are many exceptions.

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  • Appearance is subjective. Also, there are some women that look good well past their 30s, 40s, and 50s. Then there are others that don't take care of themselves and look like a prune by 25.

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  • Hmmm... the video? Dumb people behaving like dummies. As to the question, that depends on the age of the buyer, doesn't it? And what he or she is shopping for.

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  • As a generalization I don't think women become less attractive in their 30s. Of course there are exceptions like if the woman has done a lot of meth.

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  • Some peak in their teens, some in their twenties, some in their thirties, and then there just some damn sexy cougars walking around. Everyone is different.

    It is a fact that many younger women tend to be very picky. I don't blame them for this anymore than I blame a guy for drooling over a pair of enormous, shapely breasts. It's part of our natural instincts; in their case, their instinct to be selective of their mates to ensure that they birth superior offspring.

    As an aside, it is also a fact that many younger men sit on their asses playing video games, smoking dope, eating cheeseburgers, and looking at porn, doing nothing to make themselves more appealing to the naturally-picky females of their species; then, walk around bitching about how they can't get a girlfriend.

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  • only the insecure, pathetic men who can't get a cow to date them say this.

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  • Matter of perspective.

    From my understanding of SMV of woman declining at around 30 is more due to the fact that they are reaching the ending ages of when child bearing has its best potential. Older women can and do have children, however the longer women wait the higher probability for health risks to the children, or other pregnancy issues.

    At around 30 women look to settle down more yes, but truthfully even the men in the age range before that likely just want sex and don't want relationship/children lifestyle.

    Ask 22 y/o me vs. 27y/o ms vs. 32y/o me what my opinion is on children and finding a women to build a family with, you will likely get three very different responses.

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  • Their value for starting a family with them greatly declines after 30 where as men's value increases around that same age.

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  • Lol women are in denial! Every C*nt feminist on Earth has written an article complaining about this.

    https://www.scarymommy.com/miss-catcalls/
    www.mumsnet.com/.../3250341-To-miss-being-catcalled
    www.theguardian.com/.../catcall-culture-feminism-jessica-valenti

    Or the classic "I'm a strong independent woman CEO and I haven't been on a date in 10 years!"

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  • Being considered wife material peaks in their 20. Being considered fuckable is still pretty good in their 30s.

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  • I just came to watch the video. That girl is really annoying.

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  • I don’t agree and I don’t really understand why many mgtow men think this way but whatever.

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  • It amazes and confuses me how MGTOW hate women but are so fixated on them.

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      Because first of all that's propaganda meant to discredit MGTOW men. Most MGTOW men don't hate women. MGTOW men aren't willing to partake in a system that treats them less than 2nd class oppresses and vilifies them IE the western system. We men have never done anything to deserve the treatment we've experienced a blatant attack by women. Women have been traitors to us and this is why MGTOW exist. MGTOW is said to be in the millions and multiplying each and everyday and will continue until and unless the tyrant systems that are against men are changed. There is nothing that will stop MGTOW.

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      @ThisAndThat you've cracked the code. There's spies to spread propaganda about the MGTOW. Everyone has problems in this world, stop bitching. You think the MGTOW are so powerful, but everyone knows they're pathetic incels who are mad they can't get laid.

  • I do not believe looks of necessity = SMV. If they did, I'd be screwed.

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  • I think their attractiveness peaks in their 30s

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  • Men age like wine. Women age like milk.

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  • Nah I like older women.

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  • What type of European/Caucasian sh*t is this? 😂😂

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  • Yes, of course. It's not debatable.

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  • I will generally agree with this statement. Think of women as though they were cars. As they get older they start to show their wear. things start to break down and they get tempermental. Not to mention god only knows how many guys have driven them and the problems you don't see.

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  • Some truth to it , women are very picky in their 20s and peak at 24 in looks for most but not all , it is true in many ways they wait to long for a good guy that’s probably married by then

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