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Some have issues with the bail system believing that it preys on the poor
Ah, OK.But it "preys" on criminals, doesn't it?
Yes but they’re saying the problem is those that commit a crime and are wealthy (depending on the crime) can pay their way out. It’s really a problem of the rich vs the poor but there’s many factors to the bail system
Prey on the poor is right.. you get arrested you're not automatically a criminal. You are innocent until proven guilty. You're not a criminal until its proven you're a criminal..
@worldscolide Of course you are innocent until proven guilty, but that really is beside the point here. The bail system is applied equally regardless of how much someone earns.
Not really.. the more you're worth the more they usually ask for in bail.. I've seen it.. the only time that's not true is when its murder or sex crimes..
@worldscolide And how is that preying on the poor?
You tell me.. my friend 15 years ago, age 19, had a minimum wage job, was driving on a suspended license.. his bail was 150k...
They kept him in jail without trial, 8 months, and was declared innocent during the trial.. he was guilty until proven innocent.
@worldscolide One example that is not representative of the majority. That sort of thing is rare.
He was declared innocent because he was arrested the day before he got notification of his suspension. He had forgotten to pay a ticket.. he paid the ticket with the last of his money... but still had to go to trial..
Not really I work in criminal justice. So I see it every day.. keep in mind I've been around WAY longer than you.. in roughly 80% of cases bail is assessed when not necessary.. nothing I can do about it, I'm just a file clirk.. but I read all of the cases..
@worldscolide Again, one example. You can find isolated examples to support pretty much any political perspective.
You missed the point so I guess I'm done.. smh
@worldscolide OK, so you're saying on a regular basis you see bail being unfairly applied to the poor?
@worldscolide What is the point I missed. Perhaps I'm being slow so please spell it out for me.
www.nytimes.com/.../bail-bonds-extortion.htmlwww.vox.com/.../bail-reform-criminal-justice-inequalitywww.aclu.org/issues/smart-justice/bail-reformThe ACLU has declared it unconstitutional..
@worldscolide Thanks for the links. I'll read them when I have more time and get back to you.
The first and second ones are just news articles.. the last one is the more believable one.
@worldscolide OK, cool. Thanks for the heads up.
nvm i'm retarded I thought it was kept by the government even if they attend court
Well some believe that the bail system gives the wealthy a “free way out” while preying on the poor
I think criminals should eat their sentence