retard. crimes against humanity ARE acknowledged. People who had nothing to do with it should not be punished. And people like YOU who had nothing to do with ''building this country'' should not benefit either. you would make a great terrorist if you think punishing innocent people is a good idea. good luck with this miserable view of life seriously.
Great, make all white people pay for something they haven't been part of, that will be fair! And they'll pay until their last coin to people who were born 150 years after the end of slavery.Oh, and what about the Africans who sold the said slaves to slavers, are you going to make them pay too, or is it just something directed at white people?You're just an idiot using excuse to spit on white people and take everything you can from them. People like you won't be happy until they see white people enslaved and chained. You're the same kind hoping, and even asking, for white people to disappear.Truth is, your bullshit here isn't even history. It's a fairy tale, a made up story ignoring half of what happened, because then you wouldn't be able to take as much as you want, if you really wanted to punish those who did something bad.You idiot.
Why stop there? Over the centuries lots of peoples conquered and enslaved and took the land of others. Make the Franks give France back to the Gauls...
I wish everyone had your mindset
Black people weren’t able to vote until 1870. They weren’t allowed to fully integrate into society until 1964. That’s less than 100 years ago. While white people were able to build wealth for hundreds of years both morally and unethically, African defendants only had a TRUE start 55 years ago. That’s assuming they were able to find a well paying job, which usually requires a good education-which both required the acceptance of someone who didn’t have an issue with black employees/students. It was hard to get a “good” education back then. You needed both the money and help of a high up white person who was willing to help a negro, who could face push-up back from their superiors or community. Nobody really cared to have blacks around unless sports were involved and even then you had people raging for them to “go back to Africa.”It’s incredibly easy to say “move on” when YOU haven’t had anything to move on from. Nothing at this degree. But black people are still trying to catch up from the hurdles their ancestors had to jump over or move around. No. No one has been a slave for centuries but the effects of slavery were passed down long after it ended and it’s still lingering. Me personally, I believe I will be fine financially and academically. I have great credit, I’m saving up a lot before graduation and I’ve been lucky enough to avoid any college debt. If I make it to next year I guarantee money won’t be an issue for me. But if I got offered a few thousand dollars it would definitely help me. Anyway the reparations debate is an interesting one. I just wonder how it would be executed and what the expectations would be in its aftermath
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They cannot deliver on this or most of the things they want to do
could not have said it better myself
Racist people agreed not to do reparations but non racists did not agree to that and still don't but I do agree that the continent should be returned to ownership and control of those it was stolen from.
@Channing5000 So the Mediterranean should be returned to the Romans as well?
Indians get a lot of benefits. I get Indian benefits... I don’t get any black benefits though 😂
@Pink2000 Hey, the Indians get casinos and are getting all their money back by raping the palefaces at the slots and tables.
They have no real cares about slavery when they go to bed each night or when they wake up the next day... get over it
You mean they built casinos and are gaining profits from the same people who’s ancestors stole their land...
@Pink2000 Exactly! Yet in spite of their tribe's wealth, there are sadly tons of Indian alcoholics and drug users. So the money isn't really helping them that much except to have money to buy booze and drugs.
It’s helping me 😂🤷🏽♀️
I agree, it makes sense. But you'll still have illogical touchy-feely idiots like the ones who downvoted you who can't reason.
@Physics-Man touchy feely is a nice way to put it but yes.
logical (I meant)... Also I would be very suspicious of that victimhood mentality which these people represent.
I agree and I believe welfare doesn't help. I see so many people who are cheating the system that can actually get up and get jobs but choose not too. i think welfare is enablers
Whose WE dumb ass, you don't pay for anything you're 21 how long have you worked? Hahaha everyone in America contributes thats a gross statement Donald Trump already reported blacks are working which means they PAY taxes ao they lay for welfare and firthermore today they're nothing but caucasions on welfare today and welfare was not created for blacks just look at all these slutty women from 14 and uo who have children and are single mothers and all of us pay for that, Blacks are only 5% of the population meaning we don't reproduce as much as anyone else so whose on welfare again? Foh
It's still taken our of her hard earned check.21 or not she's still being taxed on the job because of you guys
@flowerbomb29 lol yeah because of what we're 5% thr population and Trump gad reported a huge increase in blacks working so again whose on Welfare and whose paying for it? Sure not blacks disgusting ferocious putrid human
You need to read for yourself and trump never said that. he said the unemployment rate for blacks are at an all time high.
@flowerbomb29 no you ignorant swine he said the black employment rate isbtge lowest it's ever been under HIS WATCH just look for yourself www.google.com/.../...story.html%3foutputType=amp, so again let me ask you if we're 5% of the population and we're said to be working with a all time low unemployment rate who's really on welfare again? And whose really paying for it because im providing facts and your just talking out of your ass because clearly you don't have a brain
When you learn to speak proper English instead of "ghetto" maybe people will listen for now you proved my point.
@flowerbomb29 awww you got proved wrong and now cat's got your toungue because you can't refute me awww how does it feel loser now im gonna berate the shit out of you because now im daddy and your my bish so how does it feel knowing your a ignorant elf looking socially inept toad who has nothing left to say?
How do you explain the success of immigrants into the US who had literally nothing? How do you explain the success of some black people within the states? Do you ever think teaching this shit and teaching racial tensions creates the mentality that keeps some black people in the ghettos and keeps them in a horrible cycle?
I'm from a country with a very long history of being enslaved including my the American colonies, we have built our selves back but and are getting on fine as are the Irish who suffered a very similar history.
@Ámayas_20 Some people get lucky and they become really successful, but we have to look at the bigger picture as a whole. Check the statistics.
I'm aware of the statistics, I'm arguing it isn't due to slavery which can be seen by the success of other societies which were heavily enslaved and the success of people with slave ancestor. You don't even understand my argument so how can you claim I'm wrong.
@Ámayas_20 If not due to slavery and racism then what is it due to?
Many different factors which I'll be happy to discuss with you if you ask in a less passive aggressive way.
@Ámayas_20 That wasn’t at all aggressive. It was simply a question. I’m not sure where you’re picking up signs of aggression.
I can explain a little of it. It is cultural. Unwed mothers and ghetto mentality. Oddly during Jim Crow there was less unwed black mothers and they were rising up and slowly doing better without the need for minority hiring quotas.
You seem to miss the difference between aggression and passive aggression, not that it's worth discussing. I'll say it again if you actually care to know why I believe it is not a direct result of slavery ask again in a non passive aggressive way. If the term is still lost on you try just being polite.
@evilmeaning I didn't know that about Jim Crow not that I agree with what was done when he had power but that's rather interesting.
@Ámayas_20 I thought I was already being very polite.
Then you need to work on basic manners. You don't misinterpret someone, act as if they're too stupid to have an informed opinion, and then demand in such a way you did for my opinion and call it polite. I won't reply again unless you actually want to get to the real topic by acting like a mature adult ready to talk.
@Ámayas_20 I know it’s difficult to interpret tone through typed text, but you are wayyyyyyy off.
Look you're clearly just rude so I'm going to end this now, goodbye work on your manners and please for the love of whatever you care about stop believing all the American liberal BS
My family was Irish slaves and immigrated to get away from ongoing slavery in the 70s. I'm not paying any reparations just for being white. In the same glove, the Europeans and Irish Catholics are not repaying me for my grandparent's lives being wasted away. So no.
Most of those who got wealthy from slavery lost their wealth in the Civil War.
And what about indentured servants? White and Hispanic slaves? The Asian men and women that were bought, sold, and abused? Is this just for America or worldwide? Does anyone now have an actual right to money from anyone? What about whites that moved after slavery was abolished?
*don't acknowledge what their ancestors did.
So essentially you're saying that modern people should pay for something which their ancestors, NOT they themselves, did? Would you pay if your grandparent killed someone?
@xyz94 I'm saying that white people from today should acknowledge that slavery happened. No, I wouldn't pay because my grandparents are black and they didn't own slaves.
@xyz94 Seriously if you're looking for an argument you're barking at the wrong tree. I'm not going to waste my precious time arguing with someone who doesn't know what slavery was/is.
My great grand father owned slaves and I'm black. In fact most of slaves come from my country. Why should I pay you for something I didn't do. When your parents owe money to the bank and they die, the bank doesn't come after you. Why can't we black people just work trying get better instead of crying over the past?
I am a white person and I know that slavery existed, however, I do not think I should be responsible to make reparations for anything I have not personally been a part of. My great-great grandfather fought in the Civil War - and in the diaries I read of his, he said he fought because he did not like slavery and thought all men, women, and children, should be treated equally in this "great country." That was on my the side of my father's dad; my father's mom's family came from Italy in the late 1800s. So they were not American slave owners. My mother's side were poor and struggled to make it, immigrating to the US from Germany in the late 1800s as well. All of my family is saddened about what happened in the past, we believe it happened, and it disgusts us , however, we should not be responsible for making reparations - especially since none of our family members were slave owners.
@menina You didn't read my reply properly (or you misunderstood it). I mentioned a hypothetical situation - what if your grandparents had committed a crime. Would YOU think that YOU should serve punishment for it?
What you all are missing is that the GOVERNMENT committed crimes by first allowing slavery and second perpetuating second citizenship through unjust laws. This isn’t like my great great grandpa being a cattle rustler. It’s systematic economic warfare.Not only is it “right” it would actually HELP our economy to not have a huge population and whole cities that we created with horrendous policy be wastelands.
@pineappleshortcare I understand what you are saying, that the Government is responsible. But why should people whose families came to the United States after the ABOLISHMENT of slavery have to pay? If the GOVERNMENT pays the reparations, it will be coming out of the paychecks (through taxes) of families who do NOT have direct ties to what took place.However, if those taxes were going to go toward providing cheaper tuition for African American people, or other similar programs to help them get over the hurdles that slavery has presented to them - I personally could get behind things like that. I do not think that simply giving them money is the answer.
@Alan97 "In fact most of slaves come from my country." - Where are you from?"Why can't we black people just work trying get better instead of crying over the past?" - Crying over the past? You're not black...
@xyz94 This wasn't an hypothetical question. You knew exactly what you were doing.
Menina I'm black. I just happen to use my brain
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@Alan97 No, you're not. You're a troll.
And those with African heritage, but AFTER slavery ended? What about indentured servants? Asian rail workers? And so on. And why should descendants of non-slave owners be on the hook?
Love stirring the pot. Didn't the white man make millions if not billions off the slave trade. Time to give some back. White privileges need to end.
White privileges? Like affirmative action? Mandatory "diversity"? Special grants? Oh... wait... those don't apply unless you're a minority.
If it wasn't for slavery you wouldn't be in America.The payments are paid, you are an American citizen today, you could still be a slave if they had never decided to give you your rights, thank them.
That's just stupid. move on
Oh, for shit's sake! If you wanna be a dirty commie, then fuck off to the Soviet motherfucking Union, or East bastard Germany!!!
If y'all read my last comment carefully, I said I love stirring the pot, REPORATIONS would do nothing, YES slavery was horrible, the Republican Party helped end it 150+ years ago. paying anyone in 2019 would do nothing. No one living today had anything to do with slavery, let's pray that as a country it never happens again. All Americans are equal. Racism does still exist to some degree, just proves that you can't cure stupidity.
What about African-Americans who immigrated in the 1980's? Why would they get compensation for slavery?
Plus everyone who would deserve the money is dead
If it wasn't for slavery blacks wouldn't be in America. 99% blacks today weren't born during slavery they don't get to reap benefits of something their ancestors experienced.Lastly, If it wasn't for slavery blacks wouldn't be in America, take it as you will.I think modern blacks should be glad their ancestors were slaves.
It's either slavery or being in Africa and dying by a result of famine.Put your emotions to the side and be logical.The reparations are already made you are an American citizen, you could still be a slave if they wanted you to be, you should be thankful to them that they brought you into their country and made you a citizen.
Are you kidding me? you need to move on. you guys hold yourselves back. On top of that blacks owned slaves themselves. So get reparations from yourself then
Why are so many rebuttles to this lowkey racist?
You guys call everyone racist except yourselves. you guys are the most racist unaccepting people around yet play victim when things dont go your wah
It's just another way for them to be lazy. they already have government assistance what more do they need
Flowerbomb, you’re a trash human being.
Get over it
You pay for it out of your kids' college fund, lady. Put your money where your mouth is, stop putting your mouth where other people's money is. Dimwit.
Do you find all the subsidies for white businesses cool? Farmers, big banks, corporations? There are valid arguments against it, but “blacks are so dumb and lazy and entitled” is racist mouth-breather rhetoric.
@Bananaman177 they're always looking for the easy way out or free. thats just lazy
@flowerbomb29 You’re a POS & you know it.
@ThisGuyDucks lol yet we have trillionaires rich today off of slavery go look ot up, why should they get to reap TRILLIONS off the backs of free labor? That's like your family members working for free and were promised retirement and never got it, you'd be livid you fiene, and you'd still fight for your family members that are dead to this day and blacks would still be in America without slavery just like every other immigrant who got here dumb ass, Irish didn't come until the late 1800's and the same for Italians in the early 1900's and abuncha of other europeans the British weren't here first the Natives were quit talking out of your ass you putrid dumb human
@Fuentes There's not one trillionaire in the planet. There's no way to prove a bit corporation used slavery, I'm not saying it's not possible but it's definitely not provable. But then again, modern blacks weren't slaves and they didn't have to work for these big corporations. Why do they want free cash?
@ThisGuyDucks yes it is you fucking retard go on google right now and search the list of how many corporations made billions off of slavery you will ewt your own ignorant worss so quick you're just not SMART and that right there is ALARMING and sad
@ThisGuyDucks three who made trillions you uneducated swine go back to school really its sad www.google.com/.../...ave27-story.html%3f_amp=true
@Fuentes Yes natives weren't the first, and natives haven't and couldn't do shit, white men made America what it is.I'm not even white, but I know what's true.There wouldn't be a fraction of as many blacks as there are today if they didn't really on slavery to move to America.Other immigrants come from at least somewhat developed areas of the world most Africans can't afford to move due to poverty, there would be very few Africans in America.
@ThisGuyDucks top 15. Who made billions
@ThisGuyDucks You sound retarded, Africa has rich countries people could have traveld from Egypt, Morocco, Somalia and South Africa and other western and eastern parts are Rich, what makes you think they could not travel through to get to the US and they're all devopled, why are you so dumb what education system failed you boy? What is your major malfunction?
@Fuentes Are you fucking retarded? blacks make up for like what percent of the population? like 30,40? You think that would be possible without slavery? You think it would be the same if rich Africans from Egypt made it into the US? No.Thank the white man who brought you in and made you a citizen.
@ThisGuyDucks the fact that you assume Black Africans were all poor has to tell you that you are not smart you can't even refute me. i already proved you wrong and ill easily keep proving you wrong, everyones migrates thats like saying nobody from Italy, Poland, Germany and Russian didn't migrate here, even Chinese migrated here and a lot weren't even rich justblike the Irish they came here with shit and were forced to live in Ghettos haha do you know anything of History so how could Africans not do the same? Something is very wrong with the way you grew up and you should reallly look. into reading some. books or just going back. to school because you're beyond ignorant
Some of you motherfuckers have never read an actual book.