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www.washingtonpost.com/.../ here's a nice headline blaming white people for air pollution. Are white supremacists running the Washington Post now? rofl. There are TONS more examples out there but somehow I don't think the truth is something that matters to you.
@HitTheOneInTheMiddle that article was written by... some white dude lol
@GermanGuy87 quite possibly. lol. But a "leftist white dude" and that's my point. I think it's utterly ridiculous for someone to say white supremacists are making this shit up when there are dozens or possibly even hundreds of examples of the "left" speaking out against white people just in the last few years.
@HitTheOneInTheMiddle yeah , I agree its definitely not white supremacists. I just think everybody wants to stand up for the oppressed EVEN white people. They get big social brownie points for it so you'll get these journalists scouring the news to be white knight vigilantes. If they get a black following that would make them hella cool and as long as it doesn't really amount to anything major they can continue doing it.
@HitTheOneInTheMiddle The link to the Washington Post article you posted is a no-brainer. White people created the vast majority of industry in the world and it stands to reason we're responsible for the air pollution, too. Why is it an issue? I dunno - it's not an issue for me. Your guess is as good as mine. Nonetheless, what the article says is factual. Rather than asking the question "what does this mean and how does it affect us?", your takeaway is "the Left hates whites". But no, *I'm* the one who isn't interested in the truth. Okay, bud.
What I was speaking about specifically, by the way, is the concept of "white genocide" that white supremacists push. A logical precursor to this would necessarily be a hatred towards white people, perpetuated by the ideological enemies of white supremacy - the Left. So whether white supremacists directly influence the thinking of Conservatives on this issue or not, it's certainly the philosophical origin of the issue.
wait wait. How many "white people" are in India and China controlling their industries, and thus "responsible" for pollution in the world? You, and others on the left constantly preach against profiling, or generalizing about specific groups of people based on the actions of a few. Why then, is it acceptable for you to generalize about white people? Ilhan Omar made a speech saying that white men should be profiled and are the most dangerous group. Don Lemon stated that "we should stop demonizing people" and then continued on to demonize white men, calling them the biggest terror threat to this country. You can throw stats and biased statistics at me all you want, but you're saying white supremacists are inventing all this, while clearly the left is out there making these statements. I agree with you on the whole genocide thing. That is something white supremacists push. But my examples clearly show a hatred of white people from the left. That fact is indisputable no matter how hard you try.
@HitTheOneInTheMiddle The article you posted is specifically about the United States. Did you not read it?Perhaps my outlook on this is colored by the fact that most of the time when you hear complaints about how the Left hates white people, it's followed by some comment straight out of the white supremacist playbook. Like this question here on GAG:Do you believe there is a plan to destroy White people, by Jewish people? ↗
My statement was rooted in the demonstrated fact that white people are responsible for more pollution in the United States than POC are. It wasn't a generalization about white people.I do have to concede, though, that a lot of people on the Left have this reactionary thing where they get upset if someone points out something about POC, like the fact that most people in prison are black, or that violent crime is disproportionately committed by black people. Of course, it's usually followed up (by Conservatives) with some comment about black people being defective, rather than the more common sense and easily supported issue of the various societal issues that have caused this.
of course I read the article. But you said "world". And the point is, even if it were true that white people were "responsible" for most American pollution, to point that out is racist, and an attack on white people since it's profiling and generalizing about one race. And I base that statement on the fact that when any other race is singled out like that it's viewed as racist, and hateful, and an "attack" on that group. Exactly what I stated in the beginning of this argument. I base my arguments on nothing but the facts. What I see and hear the left say every single day. No conspiracy theories are needed to show these examples.
@HitTheOneInTheMiddle yeah you'd have to prove scientifically that the carbon footprint of the average white American is higher than the average black / Hispanic / Asian American to prove what you're saying. This argument is obviously very silly
@HitTheOneInTheMiddle Oops, my bad. I did say "world". Anyway, no, it isn't profiling, a generalization or racist. It's literally what white people did. Just like it's not racist to point out our prison system is full of black people. It's a fact. What you take away from that, however, can be a generalization, or racist. For example, the idea that the Left hates white people is a huge generalization.
okay well if you wanna talk world wide it was whites that invented the first solar cell , the first electric car, nuclear power I could go on but I don't have too nobody with any smarts takes this type of stance serious. But yeah I do think the left is pushing this kind of rhetoric sometimes
@GermanGuy87 That's pretty much what they did attempt to prove.https://www.pnas.org/content/116/13/6001Right now, though, we aren't talking about the science behind the article. The takeaway I've seen here isn't "the science is bad" or "that study is questionable". No, it's "the Left hates white people". Coming from people who claim to be interested in truth, no less.
Precisely. I used to be a former left-winger myself but certain disagreements with them have deemed me a "Nazi" and "white supremacist". They are on par with religious fanatics.