Immigrants are perfectly fine, and I love them. They are what made a America great. Illegal immigrants are a different story. And you need to know who is coming to your country and why they are coming.
It doesn't matter man. The hell with political correctness and walking around egg shells. If you tell me to get the hell out of your house wheather politely or rudely, I must get the hell out your house because I simply don't belong there. Natives telling illegals to get out their country, so be it.
@WTFever Well, you say that, but is that what you actually believe? I'm not saying you're specifically like this, but a *huge* number of people who are concerned about the illegal immigration problem are actually just concerned about immigrants in general.Half of the folks I've talked to here on GAG can't even differentiate an immigrant who lives here legally from one who doesn't. Or a legal visitor, for that matter. It just illustrates my point that it's not about the legality; it's about immigration in general.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy This isn't about political correctness. That's a deflection of the issue at hand. If your real concern is immigrants in general, then it's just fucking racism at that point. Quit bitching about the law and own up to it. Not you, specifically. The colloquial "you".
@WTFer: My heritage country is being destroyed at its foundation by a massive illegal alien invasion. Illegal immigration just creates chaos, you don't know who's, who's, what they are doing there, financial burden medical wise, educationally, housing etc.. Its pure chaos and law of the jungle.
Well, that is them, and I'm not like that. I understand what the difference is.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Yeah, I understand how you feel, since I'm an American as well, who just happens to be living in Namibia.
@HungLikeAHorsefly: Racism is when you oppress and hold someone from advancing of different ethnicity socially, economically and educationally, wanting immigrants out of your country isn't racism.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Yes, that is an example of racism. It's not the only example, though. Another is holding a [negative] belief about a race that is based on a false generalization of that race. Like, that black people are all criminals. Or, that all immigrants are criminals. The latter being something I've often seen people (Conservatives) express. Immigrants, such as yourself, are "the good ones" and are the exception rather than the rule. That's racism.So, when you have to remind someone for the 784th time that there's a difference between an illegal immigrant and someone who is here legally, and they still commonly confuse the two... it starts to become obvious that they're applying all of the perceived negative effects of illegal immigration and applying that to ALL immigrants. That's racism.Again, I'm not saying this applies to you or @WTFever, but it does apply to a HUGE portion of the American public - mostly Conservatives. It makes the claim that the real problem is the legality of the issue a little trite and unconvincing.
Oops, I'm illiterate today. I didn't mean to use the word "applying" twice there.
Holding negative views isn't racism, that's called prejudice and no one is under obligation to have positive views of other ethnicities. I'm not under obligation to like black people, russian people etc for whatever personal reasons.
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy https://lmgtfy.com/?q=racismWhat, exactly, do you think prejudice is? Of course no one is obligated to not be prejudiced. Nobody is obligated to not be racist, either. It's a free country, after all. It's just that if you are racist, you'll probably get called out on it. That's the consequence of having an unpopular opinion in a free society. And it doesn't change the fact that having these unfounded opinions about immigrants is an example of racism.
Racists people oppress or support oppresation others of a different ethnicity, that's why racist people are horrible people. There's no harm in being prejudice to others. You can't stand Chinese people for X, Y and Z then so be it but once you start to oppress them and hold them back socially, economically and educationally then that's a major problem.
Well, in this case, you have a huge section of the American population who votes on public policy issues based on racist beliefs about immigrants. They are literally acting on their racism. So in this case, yes it does very much hurt to have racist beliefs.
Quit confusing racists beliefs with prejudice beliefs, but yeah, America is a big diverse country and diversity breeds prejudice beliefs which sometimes leads to racism.
Prejudice and racism are the same thing in this context. Generally, prejudice can apply to other things than race, like gender or sexual orientation. But for our purposes, they're the same thing. I hate posting links to dictionary entries, but I think maybe you missed it before:https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racismSee definition #3. Although #2a also applies.
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I simply can't wrap my head around how some people brains work if at all nowadays. Truly depressing.
Feels not reals
Regardless of skin color or not if native people want illegals or invaders or whatever name you wish to give them out of their country then so be it; they have a right to want them out of their territory and land.As far as Trump, hiring illegals, yes, what he did was against the law back when he was a public citizen, but now he's president, so he has to enforce national law of his country as every president/leader should enforce their country's laws and rules.
HHIsp: You miss the point, probably deliberately. By calling Mexicans rapists, and by saying the judge could not be fair because his parents are Mexican, it denigrates all Hispanics. Including those in America legally. It heightens racial divides and encourages racist acts by white supremacists and others. And what is the false dichotomy between what Trump did before president. He's still the same person, still the same law breaker, still the same hypocrite.
I'm a die hard pro Hispanic and will defend my ethnicity; however, this narrative, that any slight comment which nowadays is interpreted as racism and fuel for racial divide is very annoying and stupid and causes people to walk on egg shells.What Trump said, about illegal Mexicans and Hispanics being rapist, drug dealers etc, true? Yes, to a small extent which are a very few contrast to the immense majority that are hard working people and good people overall. And I'm no Trump supporter neither.Moreover, this question is in regard to illegal immigration in general alone. If I were to show my face in the Sudan which is a hell hole of a country without any documentation of authority for being there then I must be arrested and kicked the hell out of their country without me pulling the "race card" out of the playbook to guilt trip, manipulate and to gain sympathy as a transgressor of foreign land.
Hisp: Interesting, that you use the Sudan, a miserably run country, to compare to what Trump does. That's probably fitting. Trump does a miserably poor job too.
Any country then, dammit.
Hisp: Trump is not a racist because he wants to have control of immigration. He's a racist, because he has made so many racists comments, that it's ludicrous to believe anything else.
That's not another country's problem.
if that country has contributed to that kind of situation in history, I would say yes.
You meant, yes?
Yeah, sorry, I mean it's totally wrong
It yes, but not that I care much about it.
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