Thank you, man. Your input was well-worded, wise, and long winded. You make some good points as well.
GOD you're simple... I've worked for social services and you're 100% WRONG.
Yes you raised your voices. You didn't do anything thou. Men built them for you.Also a man did try to built a shelter for men... Got blocked by the government . Then committed suicide bcs of feminist harassment.
@grega239 Dude she's talking out of her ass. I have YEARS in social services and see the bullshit and lies that "domestic abuse" victims use to scam the government. I've seen men walk into homeless shelters, say they left their homes because they wanted to avoid violence with a woman and the social worker CALLS THE COPS to make sure the woman (who is still in the apartment) is ok. I've seen budget after budget after budget AFTER BUDGET get denied for having provisions for male abuse victims. Even LGBT in my city fight the city because gay men who are abused at home get NOTHING and are told to go to homeless shelters when they run away from a abusive boyfriend.In my experience it's women in power (using accusations of sexism and misogyny) that block anything related to helping male abuse victims. Don't get me started on the cops and how they do NOTHING for men who report violent women. People like BrittBratt are the ones who talk all this shit about "men don't speak up" then are the SAME PIECES OF SHIT who smash men down when they try to get help. Now... when a guy gets tired of being abused and knocks a woman's teeth out or god-forbid kills her. HERE COMES the SJWs to talk about the epidemic of violence against women. IT's disgusting.
Every male abuse victim you don't help is a man who one day will possible SNAP
Every male abuse victim you don't help is a man who one day will possibly SNAP, beat his wife to death or strangle her. THEN y'all want to play the gender card and play victim when the shit could've been avoided by helping the guy get out of the house.
In the UK if I'm not mistaken around 90% of men's shelters were shut down because of government cuts, while women's shelters remained unaffected. I can't cite this right now, I just remember reading about it from a secondary source, so my figures could be inaccurate, but I'm certain it was something to this effect.
@grega239 Does it matter who built them? The point is we got it done and got the shelters open. This is isn't competition of who can build the best.. I think most women know most construction has been made by men.
Wow look at that, you guys simple don't listen. I didn't just say it was only men's fault, I also blamed America for not caring about abused boys and men and just pretty much anyone cause we lack empathy towards each other in this country. I blame men and women for not doing enough about the physical and mental health of men but because I made men some what accountable for that, everything I said went through one ear and out the other cause all you hear and want to hear is: "it's all men's fault!".
So girls are allowed in boy scouts, but men aren't allowed in demestic abuse shelters, because ownly women are allowed. They should just open the doors to male victims. Which shelter do trans people go to? Most left wing people care a lot about the trans community, so you would think they would open their doors like they want for bathrooms. There have been attempts at getting shelters for men, but they aren't getting any funding. People think men can't get abused by women, that it is their fault or that they can take it, so shelters don't get funding. Women have an entire group (feminism) that also prevent men's groups from comming up and getting funding so it is up to feminists to make it happen. They can be really dense about men's issues. Most demestic abuse is reciprocal, so if you allow men who are abused to get help, you can help women as they won't get the shit kicked out of them if the guy finally snaps.
@nathanp97 Dude look at how she already twisted it into us "wanting" to hear it's all men's fault. THis is the SAME shit social workers do and I've seen it dozens of times.
Aah , it suddenly doesn't matter who build them. No it is a competition bcs feminists made it a competition. And like I said the government blocked a men's shelter from being built.No one cares about men. Bcs not only is that statement proven by history, There was a petition going around a few years back when I was asked to sign it to support the prevention of violence against women. There was no mention of men anywhere on that list.
bb2416 - shut up you lemon
A presentation on male suicide gets shut down by angry women thinking the men and the talk are trying to destroy women's freedoms by reinstating male privilegeIt's society's fault for starting it, but the only people who keep us from discussing the problems of being a male are women.
@Blightly: Not just any women; Tide-munching leftist NPC moron women. Who have a zero-sum fallacy view of everything in life. The reason behind all their mental gymnastics goes back to this zero-sum fallacy. They believe that *somehow*, throughout most of human history, men have held some decided advantage. And now, the only way to make things "equal" on some imaginary, infantile pie graph that they all worship with cult-like devotion, in order to make things "fair" and make themselves "righteous," is to increase rights for women. But because they are zero-sum fallacy losers, BrittBratt and others believe the "only way" to increase rights for women, is to completely destroy rights for men. So therefore, any voice for men is automagically a voice against women. Because zero-sum stupidity dominates the thought process of BrittBratt's ilk.This is how these types can lie to you out of their asses; but still be convinced in their own detergent-infested brains that they're being 100% truthful.
@ronaldo75 I didn't twist anything, it's you guys who have done the twisting. I already said what needs to be done and what needs to happen for this to be fixed but from what I'm seeing you guys just want to complain instead actually doing the work.. so im just let you do you.
"so im just let you do you." <-- We are. But do we really need to whine to get our rights? I mean even if we do, we're still seen as sexist in society. You are not equal to the average of society and the "women are wonderful effect" is how society's brain is hardwired and it's not just men who guilt trips men but also other women just because we're the "stronger sex".
The double standards, we're always the sexist when ever we voice out something so what can we do? Shut our mouths.
Ok, why do your gender's shelters get government funding and ours don't? The first time someone tried to make a shelter in Canada, he ran himself into economical ruin and hung himself in his fucking garage! He was a victim to the very thing he set out to stop! But yet, you're so ignorant.
You're shelters only succeeded because you actually got funding, you ignorant fool.
I don't think you're being quite fair. While its true that a lot of people dismiss men's concerns because they expect men to be able to take care of themselves, I really don't think it's reasonable to blame feminists for that. in fact, I think in some cases the focus on men's issues being less well addressed is exactly what you're describing the stories about abuse/assault/rape as being- just drama to try and vilify feminists. Like, these issues, both those facing men and those facing women are real and important issues, and they should both be addressed. But using them to stir up hatred toward some group that's not actually at fault (as you're doing with feminists) is completely counterproductive and makes people think that ANY focus on the issue is just anti-feminist/anti-(real) men's rights bullshit.Basically, don't be a fucking hypocrite. You're right that these issues are important, and you're right that sometimes people use stories not to raise awareness but to raise drama. BUT you're doing the exact thing that you're calling out by using a men's rights issue that needs attention as an anti-feminist talking point.
It's totally fair to blame feminism, bcs they're the ones constantly saying men don't deserve help bcs "muh historic oppression" , toxic masculinity and how privilaged men are despite the fact that men are the majority of assault and murder victims , are the majority of the homeless population , commit far more suicides and are demonized and portrayed as rapists , sexist and mysoginists by feminists.And speaking of hypocrisy. Here's a bit of feminist hypocrisy.If men are expected to take care of themselves and defend themselves, then so are women bcs we're supposed to be equal now.Yet I got called a sexist woman hater when I suggested that women should learn martial arts so they can defend themselves.
I looked through her opinion 4x to find anything pertaining to feminism... I didn't find anything.
@grega239 Toxic masculinity is LITERALLY what you're complaining about when you talk about people not taking abuse against men seriously. Toxic masculinity isn't just a behavior, it's a social expectation. It's expecting men to be more violent, more able to defend themselves, more likely to be dominant/the aggressor, and less inclined to seek help from others, among other things. Like, I'll grant that the term is maybe not named fantastically, but that is how it's used, and that is what in means in the feminist circles I see.What feminists say that men "don't deserve help"? Can you give examples please? It seems like you're straw manning pretty hard here, or possibly just taking the words of a few idiots to be the philosophy of an entire movement.
@ImagineSketchy its in the first sentence?
So easily overlook. Lol. Thought it was later in.
@cipher42 I don't necessarily believe feminism, on its own, is some evil man-hating thing. Feminism started as women wanting equal righst and we still have a long way to go as far as attaining equality and reshaping common attitudes and stereotypes about women. I was referencing something I have been seeing more and more frequently where so called feminists care less about equality and more about how awful guys are and they deserve nothing and having nothing to complain about and it's very much not true. I was talking more about the crazy radical Valerie Solanas witch-hunt type of feminism than people who genuinely love and care for other people and want true equality for all regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
It's fair to be against radicalism, it's not fair to act as though radicals represent the majority of the movement. Just like we shouldn't be against activism for men in general because some of it is coopted to rail against women/feminists, it's not useful to oppose feminism in general because some people use it as an excuse to hate men. And for the record, as someone who lives in a pretty liberal, pretty feminist area, and uses social media with a lot of feminist content, the actual "man hating" content I see is pretty few and far between, so it seems to me that it's really been blown rather out of proportion.
@cipher42 Feminism is a terrorism on men. It's as bad as being a radical muslim. This is what you support.
@ChocolateBrowny Could you explain how feminism as a whole uses violence and intimidation against men? And provide examples of this please, especially ones that demonstrate how the feminist movement as a whole endorses this.
@cipher42 I've experienced it with my own eyes in all areas of life (work, social setting, dating, living). I do not need to give you an essay about it.
@ChocolateBrowny You do need to provide evidence that something exists if you want people to believe that it does. Can you describe the situations you experienced? Anecdotes are at least something, though really I'd like to see descriptions of this kind of thing from sources other than a random person on the internet, so if you want to convince people it'd be helpful if you could also link other sources
@cipher42 go fuck yourself 🙄
@ChocolateBrowny Why? I asked nicely, for something that I don't think is unreasonable. Could you explain what your issue is with what I said?
@ChocolateBrowny Anecdotes are a form of bias and aren't reliable as evidence. So that's worth nothing.
@AuroraRoseat you can go fuck yourself too 😘
@ChocolateBrowny Nice comeback kid. :/
@cipher42 Give me examples that aren't either belittling men, telling them that they're "destroying gender norms", or anything else along those lines.
@cipher42 Cipher, you used the term toxic masculinity correctly. I commend you.
@SwordShield: Thanks. How much/where do you see people using it incorrectly? Also what is it that you want examples of?
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There needs to be more changes in our legal system for women who abuse the law to take advantage of men.
@backintown how so. false rape accusations im guessing?What does this have to do with the reason for the lack of men's shelters?
I work with homeless and in my city there are 10 homeless men for every woman. I’ve also seen plenty of homeless women who are drug addicts and alcoholics. But as for the false rape accusations. For starters bring back the lie detector tests. They have been dismissed as evidence from the legal system because in the past they have been found to be faulty. But technology has much improved since then. Second of amend the legal system to ensure that women get the exact same punishments as men for the same crimes. There have been several studies done that show women on average serve prison sentences (if they even go to jail) that are 40% shorter than men’s. They have started to get more harsh on female sex offenders (HS teachers). But extend this to other transgressions as well. As for the homeless/battered man issue. This is much more complicated. Men in general are supposed to be independent. If they screw up they are naturally on their own. Women on the other hand will be much more likely to get support before they get out on the street. I think there should be government mandated programs to make homeless do simple work (clean up litter). If they don’t do it, lock them up. I’m serious. Some parts of America are absolutely out of control.
by the way I’m experiencing a major double standard with dating and break ups right now. I broke up with my girlfriend a month ago and she threatened to kill herded right in front of me. Her grandma and I (she’s 26 but lives with them) has to call the police to detain her. This is after I very carefully planned to lay her down with gentle hands. I saw her face to face. Was honest about why I wanted to split (attraction just isn’t there). She made a scene in public. She screamed, threw things and sobbed out loud. It was something out of a HBO mini series. I can’t imagine how this would have gone down if the roles were reversed. If I yelled loudly at her people would immediately run up to us to make sure I wasn’t going to hit her. She wouldn’t tolerate me insulting her to her face. If I threatened to kill myself in front of her she would probably file a restraining order on me.
@backintown maybe women get shorter sentences than men because the circumstances and patterns of female offending are collectively and significantly different from male offending. Before you push for women to just get the same sentences as men because equality, check to see if they're getting shorter sentences because the criminal justice system is simply just sexist against men or not. There's equality and then there is equity. The same fix applied to both genders without exception can be disastrous.And just because I didn't talk about gender expectations for men as a reason for not reaching out for help doesn't mean I don't know about it. And you don't need to tell me "it's a complicated issue" like obviously it is. And I don't care about your anecdotal "what if the genders were reversed" thought experiment. It has no value
and don't call women cunts. calling them cunts just makes you a scumbag
“And I don't care about your anecdotal "what if the genders were reversed" thought experiment. It has no value”Are you sure it has no value? Feminists, civil rights leaders and LGBT activist groups have been using this for years and years and years. So when the show is on the other foot straight cis gendered Caucasian guys like myself aren’t allowed to use it?
*shoe is on the other foot. But the word “show” isn’t too bad of a typo Look it’s easy to dismiss all of us as “incels”. I know you didn’t say that (I won’t say cunt again). But have you ever wondered WHY so many of us are frustrated and pissed off about what we see going on? If feminism was really about “gender equality” then men would be benefiting too right? But we’re not. We are overly getting rear ended by society.
@backintown look, u seem some what reasonable and I'm looking for someone with contradictory views to me to pm and to get into in depth respectful discussions with. what do u say?
If u're wondering why i wanna pm it's so other people, potentially idiots, dont jump in and make the comment section all messy
"the more dangerous domestic violence like strangulation and beatings are most often perpetrated by men against women"Baseless bigoted opinion. Most mutilating permanent violence against a spouse is committed by women against men.
@NumaleSoybeans who is the bigot now bitch? connect.springerpub.com/content/sgrvv/23/3/301This article provides a review of research literature on women who use violence with intimate partners. The central purpose is to inform service providers in the military and civilian communities who work with domestically violent women. The major points of this review are as follows: (a) women’s violence usually occurs in the context of violence against them by their male partners; (b) in general, women and men perpetrate equivalent levels of physical and psychological aggression, but evidence suggests that men perpetrate sexual abuse, coercive control, and stalking more frequently than women and that women also are much more frequently injured during domestic violence incidents; (c) women and men are equally likely to initiate physical violence in relationships involving less serious “situational couple violence,” and in relationships in which serious and very violent “intimate terrorism” occurs, men are much more likely to be perpetrators and women victims; (d) women’s physical violence is more likely than men’s violence to be motivated by self-defense and fear, whereas men’s physical violence is more likely than women’s to be driven by control motives; (e) studies of couples in mutually violent relationships find more negative effects for women than for men; and (f) because of the many differences in behaviors and motivations between women’s and men’s violence, interventions based on male models of partner violence are likely not effective for many women.
That's complete feminist pseudoscience. Unsurpringly the article is written by 4 women and one cuck, and it starts out with the intro that women's violence against men is mostly self-defense and justified. What a load of crap. A Harvard study showed that women initiate 70% of spousal violence.www.health.harvard.edu/.../In_Brief_Domestic_violence_Not_always_one_sidedOf course you won't find these facts anywhere in the anti-male boohoo women are the Victims mass media.Women want these facts suppressed because they inherently see themselves as more valuable than men, similar to how a white person sees themselves more valuable than a black person, and hence want to play the perpetual victim that can only rarely do wrong. by the way explain to me why lesbian relationships have a higher rate of domestic violence that gay ones. I bet you can't, and you'll just sweep it under the rug.en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Domestic_violence" In 2011, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released the 2010 results of their National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey and report that 44% of lesbian women, 61% of bisexual women, and 35% of heterosexual women experienced domestic violence in their lifetime. This same report states that 26% of gay men, 37% of bisexual men, and 29% of heterosexual men experienced domestic violence in their lifetime."
@NumaleSoybeans You disregard my source because 4 of the authors are women, sexist much?, and a guy but he is a cuck... is a male source that states women are more abusive than men a conflict of interest too? you... fucken... can't stay it because you'll probably report me.Anyways. Maybe some of the lesbian women dated men before coming to terms with their sexuality and experienced domestic violence from men too? It said lesbian women experience domestic abuse without specifying what gender their abusers were. like some gay men may have experienced domestic abuse from a female partner before coming to terms their sexuality? without specifying the genders of the abusers it tells you very little about gender differences in domestic violence perpetratorsAre you a member of a Voice for Men by any chance?
"Maybe some of the lesbian women dated men before coming to terms with their sexuality and experienced domestic violence from men too"Wow, you're really grasping at straws aren't you? We could similarly say any straight woman that was reported to be abused may be referring to abuse any suffered at the hands of her mother decades earlier rather than a spouse. lolAnd yes female researchers do tend to peddle pseudoscience and fake stats far more often than male ones. They have a victim complex, just as you do, and will readily twist the truth and facts to satisfy their point of view. The field of gender studies is proof of that.No I'm not a member of A Voice for Men though I don't see the issue if I were.
@NumaleSoybeans I would not say that the domestic abuse in that study extends to abuse by parents. You see, I know how to read, me, a mere woman, and I know the survey is called the National INTIMATE PARTNER and Sexual Violence Survey. I know that the abuse these people experience came from intimate partners as that is the scope of the survey.And I am not "grasping at straws" to point out that the survey does not focus on specifically on violence rates in same-sex relationships. It asks participants if they have ever experienced domestic violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime. "44% of lesbian women, 61% of bisexual women, and 35% of heterosexual women experienced domestic violence in their lifetime." IN THEIR LIFETIME. not "in their same-sex relationships" and it's common knowledge that there are many gay people who have dated the opposite sex until coming to terms with their sexuality, which doesn't happen until they have reached their 40s sometimes. The survey needed to ask participants to specify the gender of their abuser. You cannot tell anything about perpetrating rates among gender from this survey. Little advice for ya mate, learn how to correctly interpret results from a survey before you embarrass yourself like this. A voice for men is a hate group, not my opinion though, they're categorized as a male supremacy group by the Southern Poverty Law Center so take it up with them if you have a problem with it.
You don't even understand basic logic. It's impossible for lesbians to have the highest rate of domestic violence among any other group due to "past straight relationships" influencing the stats while at the same claiming women have a lower rate of domestic violence. If the latter claim was true it should inherently lead to gays and straight women having higher rates than lesbians. This means it can't be true, and that women do in fact commit the majority of domestic violence.Why is AVFM a hate group? Because a feminist influenced organization claimed they are?
@NumaleSoybeans everything is a fucking conspiracy isn't it? jesus christ you are insanebisexual women have the highest rate, not lesbian women jesus christ. you literally can't fucking read. this is YOUR fucking source mate. You like that Harvard study because it says what you want it to say and you discredit mine on the basis that the authors are women plus a "cuck", a word that should only ever be used ironically. you're saying women can't do their jobs properly. that is fucking sexist. YOU are the bigot. You are so misogynistic describing women the way you to. I hope no woman dates you. You'll end up abusing her probably
@Staiby. I just followed you, but since I’m new I can’t PM people yet. But you can PM me. thanks
Yeah. I mean every demographic has their own set of problems and privileges (sadly) but I get what you're saying. I was reading this thing about domestic abuse the other day and it was an article about a female domestic abuse "survivor." When she got into the actual story, she talked about how they got into an argument, SHE punched HIM in the face, he retaliated by punching her in the face, and now demonized and left to rot in jail while she's hailed as a "trauma survivor" and gets fucking news story written about her where she's this innocent victim who did nothing wrong. That's not to mention real-life examples I've seen. I knew this girl who got mad at her boyfriend and she just went after him like slapping him and everything. He pushed her just to get her away. As you could probably guess everyone acted like he was the bad guy. After that they all talked about how "pathetic" he was and how he "wasn't a real man." It pisses me off how it's some socially acceptable and even "funny" thing for a girl to hit a guy and everyone acts like she's cool or tough or won't take shit from anybody or whatever, but a guy does it and his whole life is ruined and everyone acts like he's a worthless piece of shit. And nobody wants to talk about it because it might spark some fucking controversy what with this whole radical feminism bullshit and everyone's too much of a spineless, soulless suck up to do anything about it.
I really appreciated your comments. I think you’re seeing the problem clearly. Don’t get me wrong. There are some bad guys out there that are cruel monsters who savagely beat women. However strictly when it comes to male on female domestic violence and they’re involved in some kind of a relationship, I’ve noticed more often than not it’s the female who is the aggressor.I am in favor of speaking up about a great many things. Particularly the tyranny we se from the left in America. I’m sure someone will read what I wrote and say: “he’s a sexist and hates women.” That’s where we are in this country. Disagreement on certain issues will get you labeled as a racist, sexist etc and “victims” use these terms cart blanch without regard to facts.Now the law is the law. I do want to say that maybe, and that’s a big maybe if a woman slaps a man and gets her ass kicked, maybe she had it coming. There’s a certain principal all men know. Don’t start fights you can’t finish. If I walk up to Mike Tyson and bitch slap him should I say it’s unfair for him to kick my ass because he’s bigger and stronger and I’m not capable of defending myself against him? Or maybe should I not birch also someone who will likely pummel me? See what I’m saying? Daying women aren’t as strong and such is a lame argument. The better argument is don’t hit anyone, but if you do don’t hit someone who will floor you if they retaliate. Nobody should be hitting anyone baring true self defense anyway. Anyway I totally agree with what you said. The best way for guys to handle this is let her hit you. Turtle. Then leave her and never return. I’d tell them to call the police and have her arrested too but some women are academy award winning actresses who may lie to police once their being put in handcuffs and frame an innocent guy. It has happened before. Usually police are pretty good at determining what really happened but they can be fooled like anyone else so for that reason it’s just not worth it for a
Guy to call. Better to turtle up and then leave and never have anything to do with that person again.
Also I don’t believe any demographic has privileges. Equality is a false god. There will never be equality because everyone has different heights and weights and abilities and talents. No 2 people are the same. I don’t see white people complaining about loosing out on pro sports opportunities to blacks due to fast twitch muscle fiber.
'Cause men are way stronger than women. A punch from man can cause way more damage even kill hee than a puch from a woman. A many is seven physically stronger than woman. That is why it is clever idea to hit back. I am not saying abuse against men is ok but you have to consider this
***'Cause men are way stronger than women. A punch from a man can cause way more damage even kill her than a puch from a woman. A man is seven physically stronger than a woman. That is why it is not a good idea to hit back. I am not saying abuse against men is ok but you have to consider this
I think don’t hit if you don’t want to be hit.As a man of a guy way smaller and weaker than me punches me I’m going to floor him regardless.Mess with the bull you get the horns.My point is women always go to that argument about being weaker but maybe they should have a different mind set. The mind set of “I’m not going to rely on a societal double standard so I’m not going to hit anyone as I don’t want to be hit in return.”
Same men think it is ok for men to sleep around but if a woman do it, she is a slut. That is douple standard. I thought men and women are different and not the same?
They are different and neither is ok.
Oh ok then. I am sorry then for thinking you are hypocritical
2 shelters in the U. S. obviously not enough. We are forgetting male against male domestic cases too beside abusive female partners.
Thank you for understanding my view.
It is also another thing that these shelters are unfunded by the government.
Bro, you make good points, but ONE SHELTER isn't enough.
You are BEYOND stupid and ignorant.
Sure, but at least I dont lack masculinity
These dudes are mad soft. They wanna be treated like women.
i hope someday you get into the situation where you need to defend yourself against an abusive woman. if you talk back to that woman she'll physically attack you and if you don't take that beating and actually fight back then you'll have law enforcement tearing your azz apart. i would like to see how masculine you'll be then
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Yeah, they dont understand what it takes to be men. They will suffer because of it. Thats on them.
Yep. They gonna find out the hard way.
Dude, you don't even know what you're talking about.
Sucks that it's not government funded either.
You will never see government funded programs for average men who are suffering. Unlike women we are not valued if we just breathe air. We are not special. We are dispensable. Truth is I would be okay with that if feminists would just STFU.
Oh! Wow! Women trying to run them over and stab them? "Be less sexist."
Are you green lighting male abuse?
I don't think she is, I think she's explaining what she thinks about the women only shelter society. She does not like it
Correction, it doesn't get *reported* enough. Because you have to consider who writes the headlines, and the dumbass excuses they give for leaving stories out. I used to work in TV news. The bullshit excuses for censoring stories are endless.
They don't address that on the news immediately. If a man gets abused in a relationship, everyone will assume he did something to deserve it because being bias towards women is how society's brain is hardwired. And forget about defending himself. He can get charged for assault for that. There are chances that a woman in abuse shelters are victims of self defense while their husbands get sued.
Yeah guys are dangerous out on the town
Actually statically men are more likely to be violently attacked than women
I think this is about rape and sexual assault...
@leahzrc I've believe women are more likely to commit sexual assault and it's because society allows them to do it.
@leahzrc And we're not talking about rape and assault here.
@leahzrc We're talking about the lack of male shelters to protect them.
Anonymous, were talking about domestic here.
statistically men are most of the victims of violent crimes. yes a woman would be raped but a man would be murdered.
The majority of assault victims are men. Bcs in case you haven't noticed , men get into fights way more than women...
Look, im not trying to downplay the issues with men and lack of help, im just mentioning the issues that i personally have experienced. I don't know where you guys are from but in philly, women are like prey. The men have more power physically and mentally. I think that women are more likely to fear the possibility of being assaulted. Men get sexually assaulted, and it's not something they fear could happen to them anytime or anywhere. Yes women can get away with it, but honestly, I believe wholeheartedly that most women are more in fear for themselves than woman who assault men and get away with it. Men are used just the same as women, in different ways, but it's a nightmare no matter the victim. In terms of violence, I think that men are more likely to commit the violence and that woman are more likely to get away with the violence. Its just an inbalance, but no gender has it worse than the other. If we recognize that it's not an argument about who has it worse, then we can recgonize that we all have it worse by fighting over who actually has it worse
@grega239 are the statistics being talked about here just about who is the victim of violent crime, or about who is the victim of random, unprovoked violent crime? Because the fact that men get into more violent alterations doesn't really have a bearing on who is more likely to be attacked on the street out of nowhere.
If a man defends himself against an abusive woman he gets shamed for putting hands on a woman, or arrested for assault.If a man doesn't defend himself , he's shamed for allowing a woman to beat him.Damned if we do , damned if we don't.Also why do women enter a relationship if they're afraid that their partner would be abusive to them?
@grega239 my ex girlfriend was violent under the influence and after pushing all my buttons I figured I call the cops to calm her down or else I was going to beat the shit out of her. Guess what happened? A bitch cop came out and put words in her mouth for them to have a reason to arrest me. That's what happened, I have a black eye a ripped shirt and arrested too. I couldn't believe it. Sure enough and $1000 later in lawyer fees the charges got dropped. Welcome to the corrupt so called democracy and freedom.
I forgot to mention gender bender equality. Guess what else. With all the evidence on my side can't sue the cops either for false arrest.
My point has been proven. Huzzah
@grega239 I literally addressed the issues that toxic masculine expectations create (expecting men to be more violent/expecting them to be able to defend themselves/expecting them to not come forward about abuse because thats "weak"). Picking a fight with me over this only makes it seem like you see anything that's not 100% on the side of men as being anti-male, which is why so many people are suspicious of men's rights activism.And don't fucking victim blame. They enter relationships with men that seem nice, only to become abusive later. It's not rocket science buddy.
@Andremoso Did you actually say that you'd "beat the shit out of her"? Because, um, that's not phrased like self defense. Like, by all means, don't tolerate abuse, but also maybe don't tell the cops you're going to beat the shit out of someone and then get surprised when they arrest you.
After having been punched in the face for no reason by a drunken bitch and my shirt ripped apart, yes, I was going to smash the other humans face, straight up. Too bad that the other human happens to be a drunken bitch, but I stopped and she still wouldn't calm down and thats why I called the fucking cops so that I don't fight back. Why arrest me? I was the abused one and the victim regardless of my thoughts. Wake up and smell the roses woman!
We kinda are expected the be violent. We are expected to be able to defend ourselves and. We are expected to sacrifice our lives to defend others.That's not the issue. the issue is when feminists take these traits and use it against us despite the fact that these traits are the reason feminism is able to exist in the first place.
@Andremoso They arrested you because you threatened violence over the phone in a pretty angry/aggressive sounding way, so they assumed that the abuse wasn't one sided. Maybe somewhat because of bias, but also pretty reasonably honestly. Could you not have just left the situation and called the police to report abuse once you weren't in danger of seriously injuring someone else? And, would you have hit her in self defense, or would you be hitting her to retaliate? From what you say, it sounds like she only punched you once, then presumably wasn't hitting you when you called the police? Like, obviously she's more in the wrong for actually hitting you, but the police weren't that wrong to arrest you given how you indicated that you were also a violent party.
@grega239 How is it not an issue that people expect men to be violent? Expectations influence reality, such that men do end up acting more violently than women tend to. That's the problem. And how is men being expected to be violent/more involved in physical conflict allowing feminism to exist? That's not why feminism can exist, it's one of the reasons it NEEDS to- to try to reduce those kind of violent tendencies. I assume your argument is "if we didn't defend society (through physical force) then people wouldn't have the freedom to argue for their causes". Do you not understand that if people (often men) weren't so violent and aggressive, society wouldn't need to be defended to that degree? And that even if violence is useful in defense, it's entirely possible to teach people to be violent only to defend, and not to attack?Also, again, I need you to actually give me examples of feminists doing/saying the things you say they do. One more post accusing people of saying something without actually backing up that accusation with evidence, and I'm going to block you. I'm deeply uninterested in talking to people who attack strawmen, instead of actual real issues.
Ok I'll rephrase my last comment. Men Are by nature more violent/aggressive.Millions of men had to die so that we can now live in a world where feminists have the freedom to say how toxic men are and how we're all just rapists in makingExampleshttps://images.app.goo.gl/zhyyQrWRu45w32Ly5https://images.app.goo.gl/3BnSBbXcEPLjn5z98There's more but you get the pointAndrea dwarkin also has a few juicy ones. And feminism on Reddit is a shut show of idiocy.
We are taught. To only be violent when necessary. But women are never taught to be violent in defending themselves. You want to shift the responsibility while demanding to be men's equals. If you can t accept the fact that some men are bad people and that you're gonna have to take certain precautions to defend yourselves against them , then stay home.Bcs your solution would literally require men to be indoctrinated and have their freedoms restricted so women don't have to be held responsible for their own safety.Sorry but I'm not having it. I'm not gonna put up with being treated as a dangerous person just for being a man. I don't have to be lectured to not beat women. Bcs I have never done it. I have only ever fought with men. Do you get it now
@grega239 it doesn't matter if an individual is naturally more aggressive than others, they should still be subject to the same rules and consequences as everyone else.Also, how do you not see the hypocrisy in being the one to argue that men are inherently more dangerous than women, while also blaming feminists for spreading the idea that men in general are dangerous? Like, it's YOUR argument that supports that mindset, not the feminist mindset that men dont have to be violent and should nit be.And we as a society literally do "indoctrinate" people into being good members of society and restrict their freedoms to punish them if they aren't. Are you going to tell me that teaching children how to play nice is bad? That encouragibg adults to work through conflict kindly instead of aggressively is bad? That punishing people for hurting others is bad? Because what you're saying really sounds as if that's what you're arguing.
@grega239 also, a couple google image quotes are not the evidence I'm looking for. What I'm asking is evidence that a significant proportion of feminists actually believe and advocate these things. Like, an actual survey, or study, or similar. At the very least, provide info on who said these things and how many feminists explicitly agreed with them about it, so I can fact check it myself. If you're going to argue that feminists shouldn't vilify all men just because some are bad (though you yourself argue that all men are naturally more aggressive) then you have to follow that logic yourself, and not accuse all feminists of man-hating because of the actions of a few radicals.
This is why we need shelters, to protect people who are in your situation.
We can protect ourselves if the woman just uses her fists/feet and doesn’t gaslight the legal system to make him look like the abuser (happens often). But women have society on their side. Many cunts take advantage of this.
@backintown : Exactly. Years of feminist indoctrination and NPCs gaining positions of power have led to any woman who wants to badly enough being able to gaslight the system. Such that, no matter what really happened - even if he has it secretly recorded - the man is always made out to be the bad guy. The woman has to be caught doing something unfathomably evil before society sides with the man.
@backintown but guys have testosterone which makes them more aggressive. Therefore, he can basically beat up whoever he pleases especially women. Just because a woman can pick a brick or limp and hit or attempt to hit a guy, doesn't mean he's backing down. Also, women mostly have the side of other women and some men because only certain people understand the struggles of being a woman
@ObscuredBeyond there has been some blowback on this. But it’s not enough Ultimately it’s women who have to realize the poisonous, insidious false promises of feminism. Feminism claims to be about “equality” and empowerment. Women go down this route and discover they are miserable. Some just worse but others are waking up to it.
@backintown : The rude wake-up call has, for many, been the mutating nature of the trans movement. Where once it was a belief that you're "born in the wrong body;" the current belief is that identity should have no ties to biological truth whatsoever, and that the doctor merely "made the wrong decision." And that chromosomes lie. Which, of course, is sheer insanity.Some of the worst abusers of women now, are trans men who insist they're women. When an it-thing can push you around, and gain an army of misguided sympathizers to destroy your entire way of life should you say no even one time, you go from understanding other individual to a mental if not literal prisoner - with an oppressive jailer in drag.The same forces that told women that 4th-wave feminism would empower them, are now finding themselves at the mercy of madmen who are now trying to make biological femininity meaningless. Oppressing women not by claims of being superior to women; but by trying to erase the concept of biological women from existence! Recently, a lesbian activist with a brain tumor went on record calling out how insane this was, and even told the trans crowd: "acting like you speak for me is extremely arrogant."The reaction she got? Thunderous applause that she had a brain tumor. Dancing on her grave. Not from the conservatives she bashed a decade earlier; but from the trans-lunatics she merely accused of taking things too far!Cultural Marxism is giving way to Medieval Neo-Feudalism; and the lords have begun subjecting female serfs to an oppressive order to tolerate fake women depriving them of the last visage of value in being real women. Suddenly, the cowboys they were taught to hate feel like welcome saviors. At least those old cowboys didn't tolerate the real-life version of Rob Finkle from Ace Ventura abusing women while pretending to be one.
@ObscuredBeyond well said sir. Intersectionality has become inter civil war. Confusion, chaos and self destruction ensues. Conservatives don’t really need to do anything anymore. Just sit back and watch this insanity melt down. Funny that there is a #walkaway campaign started by an openly gay camp New York hairstylist who became disgusted with the left’s obsession over identity politics. He started movement encourage people to leave the Democratic Party. Amazingly he became republican. Nobody expected him to do that. But republicans today would have been Democrats back in the 90s. Now if we could just get a president with same polical policy but would just shut the hell up and get off Twitter... then we would be all set.
@ObscuredBeyond thank you good sir that was a good read and I agree. A man will always be able to over power a women unless she works out and has training but most don't so the idea that a women blah nevermind
@backintown : "Just sit back, and enjoy watching the world burn itself down." I guess you've discovered the honk pill. And while it's hard for me to fully swallow it; I can fully understand the frustrations that would drive someone to take it. That urge to say: "F*k it all."That is why many are now giving up on sex, marriage, family, close relationships, etc. Embracing being lonely freaks, and amusing themselves however they can while waiting for the apocalypse to cleanse the universe of all the degeneracy they can no longer do anything to stop.
@ObscuredBeyond but we still get to vote... and I still manage to get laid. And we can take action. We just hold up mirrors to the left. Let them take a real good look at themselves.
You do know women use knives?
@ObscuredBeyond actually even if she cuts his penis off after he asks for a divorce the man is still blamed and the woman is made a national hero. There is no sadistic depth a woman can dive to that most other women still won't cheer for her. Women's hatred and disgust of men is similar to white people's hatred and disgust of black people. It's like when a cop kills a black guy, white people will laugh and say "he was probably a thug, he deserved it. Give the cop a medal".
“but guys have testosterone which makes them more aggressive. Therefore, he can basically beat up whoever he pleases especially women“Yes men are stronger and CAN be more aggressive. But most men including myself never cross that line. I’m retired mma fighter by the way, but my training actually calms you down even more. But women are not attracted to peaceful men. They see violent men as “sexy alphas” and they think these guys will change just for them (bullshit). Then jump head first Into the pit and lo and behold they sometimes get bartered.
@NumaleSoybeans of course. I won't assume it works all the time though. She'll most likely get him when he's comfortable, other than that he can easily take the knife from her
@backintown not true at all regarding myself. I'm not a very confrontational person and hate violence, they make me nervous. Honestly, I find it cool that you'll one of those guys who would try to calm the woman down but not all men are that way. Personally, I believe, at times men should protect themselves just not go overboard like beat her up bad because it's sooo much easier for a man to shut a woman up than any woman can. Also, I use to train in MMA and I'm pretty sure, I won't be fighting any man ever
@foriWish It doesn't work that way, men have to let their partners beat them because if there's a bruise on her arm because you were trying to restrain her thats enough for you to be charged with assault regardless of what she's done to you.Its like certain girls who think they're hard for starting on a guy in a pub, defending yourself isn't an option for men in domestic violence because you get named the perpetrator even if its in self defence.
@Edanurus than who cares what idiots think. Defend yourself and never let anyone beat on you just because people will spread lies. It sucks that life isn't fair but do whatever you have to. I believe there's a law that both parties go to jail if each claim assault. It sucks but everything can't be proven
@foriWhish when the lies lead to being charged with assault, banished from your house and have your kids taken away from you then yeah I care like other men who have been in that situation, this isn't hypothetical to me.There may well be but reality doesn't work that way. The man is always an abuser thats why you dont have government funded shelters for men.
@Edanurus then tell the truth or lie to your average.
@foriWish I guess that was a typo and you meant advantage. They aren't the options. The options are to stay and put up with it or leave and suffer the consequence, which include being estranged from your kids. You have to make the choice between your safety and being a father. I can't see any advantage to lying and im not sure what you would lie about in the scenario we're discussing.In my experience I feel people underestimate exactly what men in this situation are defending themselves against. Men might punch a woman but in the reverse situation.Could be worse, isn't there a law in the US where the one that the stronger looking person gets arrested? Add that to the 'men can defend themselves' idea and if the police are involved even if they were the ones to ring they are getting arrested.
*in the reverse situation women tend to use weapons, i dont care how strong you are its not going to help you against someone stabbing you,.
@Edanurus I don't know. I was a witness of a situation between my sister and her husband. My sister was trying to leave and her husband attacked her. The police was called and no one went to jail, her husband said she attacked him and the cops just told my sister she can leave and that was it. I guess the situation depends on the person
@foriWish I would agree the situation differs from person to person, for me the biggest issue is when kids are involved. Unfortunately even when your life is at stake as a man you stay for their sake because you are not going to get custody unless you can prove that the mother is a risk to the child.Unfortunately unless you can prove that then there's little you can do and I feel that people see being a father is less than a mother. Want to see a guy cry then take his kids away from him.
If there are no***
You got a good point there.
Moderb government funded shelters were created by Erin Pizzey. She had to flee the country after activists poisened her dog because she dared to point out about half the women coming to her shelters were just as violent as the men they were escaping from.Earl Silverman did do that, he killed himself. Im sure its easy for all these women shelters who get funding to survive.How are men meant to sort out anything when people who run women shelters are scared they can't make money of suffering? Because thats the issue.
To be honest, I’m not entirely sure what you are asking.Are you saying women can’t make profit off of men’s suffering or that men can’t make profit off of men’s suffering?
@Ellie-V I don't think that domestic violence shelters are run by women for women. there's an entire industry behind it that includes both genders. I was trying to make the point that its these people, who are profiting of the suffering of women, dont want the funding split between men and women because it will hurt their bottom line.Thats why I mentioned Erin Pizzey. As far as I can see she and her team were the progenitors of modern shelters, she also tried to do the same for men and yet was run out of the country for her efforts for daring to try and bring some balance.Domestic violence should never be men vs women it should be abusers vs the rest of us.
Is that Elliot Rodger in your profile photo? Xper 1, speaking somewhat logically on a men's issue -- highly suspect fake pink account but w/e.
Yes it's Elliot, if I had a penis I'd have made a blue account instead. This is the I think third time I've been assumed to be a fake account which would be more amusing on a different answer but considering the question and the answer here it's just sad. Guys can go through a lot and I think it's not right that it doesn't seem to be as acknowledged, or even brushed off.
Well then, welcome. Your answer is so refreshing that it was literally unbelievable.
You're a fucking monster of a human being.
so if women get abused, they are wimpy too? Or is it just men?
If you have kids, I pray they will be all daughters if this attitude is what you'd drill into your sons.
Gee Tom, would you be an abused wimpy fuck?
I've never been abused no, but nice deflection there, you're a real credit to your gender.
it's the white girl who isn't white
Now why I got to be called a white girl? What did I do or say to you? Ain't no damn white girl, I got an ass.
Yeah, you have an ass. You're one too.Too bad you didn't get a brain with it. Now look at you, all you can say is just plain diarrhea.
Crawl back into that womb of scum puss and rat shit you fell from, slurp up the slime you left behind and die in the truckstop hoe you got for a momma.
As I said. Complete absence of any kind of brain in there. Just an ass proud to be stupid. You're quite a shame to all women.
something wrong with whites? the world is not kim kardashian
@Guanfei Don't forget her momma must have dropped her as a child - it must run in the family LOL. @GhettoGirl So sorry, but the world isn't so black and white. Autism does that...
Oh what about women being in abuse shelters? In that case they're wimpy as well. They're not real women
Read what your saying dude, women, we Are Women.
And men are men. So what's the problem? Fuck your double standards.
Is that all you can say? You're not getting a special treatment just because you are one. And what are you gonna do about it? Accuse me of sexual assault? Boohoo.
Shelters for men. That's funny.
Just like shelters for you lol
@Aiko_E_Lara gg has led a sheltered life. she probably thinks that a bitch is a dog.
Housing projects in Detroit ? Hardly a sheltered life, but a community I can say women ain't running around beating up on men in. Big ole men being beat up by women? Yeah, it just to soccer moms one generation to F--k up a generation of men.
Think again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hrHUo70nY&t=80s
W o m a n =women.
M a n = Man so what's your point?
gg - black flid
get back under your corrugated roof
Why do I have to have a corrugated roof ?
and this, if you hadn't yet realised ladies & gentlemen, is 'female privilege'. if a bloke talks crap (or truth), girlies get upset, and male feminists attack them. which is why blokes usually talk anonymously. if a girl talks shite, she can do so under her real name or photo. because everyone thinks "she's only a girl"
That's right, female privilege. Now suck it up and move on the thread is starting to be embarrassing with all these men needing shelter from their wives.
The only embarrassing thing here is you. And I insist on calling you a "thing", since you obviously don't deserve the title of woman. Guess all I can wish to you is that one day, all you're laughing at today will happen to you. Maybe if you're confronted to it, you won't be such a retarded stuck up bitch.
Women, they are women. Or wait I get it now, that's right. It's not women abusing men and they need a shelter, its the first round of gay marriages coming apart and you got hair bear fag beating up on his Sissy. That's It !!
Nothing you say make any sense. But it's not like I expected much of a subhuman like you anyway.
Oh you ain't tried to bring one ounce of intelligence to the conversation you just came in to call names and be derogatory. Go scratch n sniff
You started with a stupid statement, showing the extent of your idiocy. What did you expect? That I'd make any effort to teach you? You aren't worth the effort, at best I could show you the way to the nearest bridge so you can free the world from your lack of brain.
A Peter Puffer protectionist of weak white males ain't got nothing to teach me.
I could teach you manners, empathy, common sense, tolerance.But since you prefer being a racist, vulgar, stupid bitch, I won't waste my time. So, about that bridge, try to at least do a flip when you'll jump. So that, for once, you'll do something useful by entertaining people around.
I guess I'm not getting nominated for MHO on this one then.
Well that sucks.
corrugated roof. under it
I tried searching them up. Please point me towards these shelters.
Also, I must know, are they privately funded?
Go to the website www.Google.comType "male shelters"From there you can research to your heart's content.
All I see is homeless shelters and stuff.
The help you are looking for.
On top of going into a womans shelter and them paying for a hotel when you need it.
I don't know about that one. Also, I don't need help, what I need is actual shelters for men that they can stay in!
Then go to a women's shelter they can help you being male. They get guys with a hotel room.
That isn't the point.
How is that not the point? I'm a guy i get it, I'd rather slit my wrists then ask for help. So there really isn't a way to market those places. But there is help and half of million males get that help. You have to look for it and accept it. Having male only center's is basically the worst way for them to get any help they need.
I mean, it's not like they don't have the funds to do so.
Or that the government won't fund them at all, right? The government surely knows best!
but i think they don't get the funding they need
@morrowlow I was being sarcastic.
no i actually replied to mermaidia_lol's comment before i read your comments
And then women wonder why we are so emotionally unavailable and have build up walls everywhere sky high.This is why.
I approve your use of dragon
Actually, it's nearly half.
So women need someone to protect them and that happen to be men?
they say most of these domestic altercations are instigated by women and i'm sure men cannot protect themselves because they would be arrested if they use physical force
Most men also don't say anything and allow women to abuse them bcs , you know, men aren't supposed to hit women and all that.
@morrowlowYou’re exactly correct and some women will intentionally use violence, and even if the male never retaliated or used violence ever will call the police knowing the strong likely hood of him being arrested if she plays a convincing victim role.In my own experience, domestic violence was probably initiated 60% of of the time by females. However nearly 100% of the time that got the worst of it. Now. Under the law, if someone hits you, you simply can’t hit them back. There has to be evidence for a need for self defense. So if I’m a woman and slap you across the face and turn and walk away, you can’t sucker punch me in the back of the head as I walk away. That is battery. It is exactly this type of situations that get most males arrested for domestic violence and the fact they usually do more damage when they retaliate. That is why it would seem statistics do not reflect the facts.
@karangill women need men to protect themselves from men yet claim to not need help because they're "strong and independent" at the same time they argue that men need no help and deserve none because they're menthe hypocrisy is real
What is with the downvotes? This answer is very common sense...
@foriWish thank you🙂
I think all of the 15 male downvotes want to abuse me
@Apple1996 I believe you. Thanks to this site, I found that men can be quite evil and hate women (like REALLY hate us). I even read responses of them laughing about women getting raped and abused. I found anything is possible now so yeah, I believe you
Ooor there are not as many male victims addressed? And I'll have you know those women who are victims can be victims of self defense by their husbands when they tried to abuse him. Just like thinking those 15 men wants to abuse you. Oh how sad. Just be glad people are gonna side you even if you started it in the first place.
@foriWish https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hrHUo70nY&t=132s Common sense for you
@Aiko_E_Lara dude statistics are not 100% accurate. Anyone can say "according to this study, or this site, or this person". That's a huge flaw by the way. Not common sense.
And that is my point. You are saying it's not 100% accurate. But what makes you sure that it's common sense that women gets abused more? Just because you keep hearing about it more? The kind of proves my point that whenever women gets abused, they are always addressed what if men are, everyone assumes they deserve it.
You can give me individual links all you want that doesn't change the empirical data such as this one. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect
@Aiko_E_Lara because sadly, women are the weaker sex. We will never be able to protect ourselves against men. Gosh if women could, no woman would ever be raped again and women are always raped. I use to train in MMA and no freaking way can I fight a man without getting cut in half. Imagine the average woman who would never think of training in MMA.
Also because we are the stronger sex, if we try to defend ourselves from abusive women, we got called the monsters for it and get arrested or charged end end up in the statistics. No one is supposed to be getting a special treatment just because of their gender.
And you also maybe wonder why the suicide rate of men is four times higher than women's
Double standards. It's ok for you to train mixed martial arts to defend yourself against guys but if we trained mix martial arts to defend yourself against women it's not ok? Because we can pee while standing up? Why don't you check your privileges as well.
@Aiko_E_Lara dude what are you talking about? I'm a feminist and I would never call a guy a monster for defending himself. Of course I believe there should be boundaries but I would never do such a thing when he doesn't deserve that treatment. Also, I never said a man can't train in MMA, honestly, he doesn't need it unless he's trying to defend himself against other men since that's harder. Also, there's more to it than you having a penis or pee standing up. You should know that
Sure you wouldn't but that doesn't really change the average feminist saying they don't but they actually do and for your information, feminism isn't about equality. You're not saying that men can't train mixed martial arts but you are saying that it is common sense that a women gets abused more without even any sources and using "women are weaker as an excuse" to justify your denial of men's issues
And i'm not surprised that you are saying you're a feminist. I'm an anti feminist
Like what you're saying that men really hate you? I mean of course i'm an anti feminist not anti women. And there is a very big difference in that. According to you talking about our issues is a way to hate you but making excuses to justify your denial is not sexist for whatever reason.
@Aiko_E_Lara lol that isn't an average feminist saying. Also, just because someone may claim they are a feminist, doesn't mean they are. Feminism is about equality for women, anyone who expresses anything other than that is a sexist not a feminist
@foriWish Feminist Gate, oh god here we go. This one'll be a hell of a blood bath
@foriWish Indirect sexism. Let me ask you. Why is feminism "equality" when feminism has a male counter part? And the opposite of equality is injustice FYI. And by thinking that way "feminism is about equality" just demonstrates injustice and of course you don't realize that but if you do, you're just gonna deny it. All you care about is the label that you have to call yourself a feminist as if we're still living in a patriarchal world where women are still oppressed ignoring major issues faced by men. You claim feminism is about equality just like MGTOW claim their movements is about equality. And another question is what about MGTOW? Do you think their movement equality too if you think feminism is equality? I bet you can't answer that. And PS. I'm not an MGTOW. I'm an anti MGTOW as well because their movement isn't about equality just like feminism. I'm at the middle ground called "egalitarian"
So many cucks, so few shelters.
@supercutebutt : A man fleeing from a psycho bitch that lights him on fire is not a cuck. A cuck is someone who douses himself then goes back to her after being lit on fire, and forgives her endless cheating. Clearly, you need to go back to school somewhere other than an NPC indoctrination center.
@ObscuredBeyond Aww. Did your mean wife light u on fire again :(?
@supercutebutt Luckily there are many shelters for chucks like you.
@supercutebutt : No. And I'm not married. My girlfriend got ripped away by the Chinese government. One I dated in college is dying from Huntington's disease. And the one ex that I caught trying to molest a dog? Dropped her like a hot potato. There are lines that, once crossed, mean I'm gone. I even cut off a different prospect who was a model, because she demeaned me for disagreeing with Emanuel Macron. Thought she could treat me that way for not siding with a commie and with her NPC talki points, and acted like she was irreplaceable. Physically, didn't do a thing. In spirit? Poured gas, threw a match, walked away. Burn, baby, burn. The haughty must be humbled. Some, until they're shrieking. I would advise you not to put yourself in that category. I'm not the only one who sees this. And one day, the fool of a woman will ignore this lesson I teach around another who sees this. He will be less self-controlled. It'll be like an episode of Dexter.
@ObscuredBeyond OMG. You are a mentally ill gentleman. OK, good luck in life. :)
@supercutebutt and lol you don't think you are a mentally ill bitch for whatever reason
@Aiko_E_Lara I called you a gentleman and respond by calling me a bitch? reported.
And what about calling them chucks? You can go ahead and report yourself by reporting me lol. G@G is going to look at you first
@supercutebutt *cucks. And that's a nice excuse to dodge things lol
@Aiko_E_Lara I never once called YOU a name. What's wrong with you?
@supercutebutt Quote from you: "I agree. There should be cuck shelters for all of the Trumptarded gentleman in my country. They are becoming a real problem" When the asker is asking about abused men. MEN and I'm a man so? I'm just doing exactly what you're doing. So why don't you like it? Lmao you think this is all about you do you? You don't want anyone to ruin your day while you continue doing it to anyone. It's about time for you to taste your own medicine. Anyways, I sense you're blocking me lol. I mean that's right. Because you know I could destroy you anytime
@supercutebutt So by the way, what is your problem calling them cucks? They never once called you anything. Double standards I see? And I can already hear you saying "WAAHH IT'S ONLY FUNNY IF IT HAPPENS TO THEM NOT ME" or something like that. Lol grow up.
@Aiko_E_Lara This is an obvious joke post. There are no shelters for "abused" men because that isn't even a thing. Do you actually know any dudes who get beat up by their girlfriends or wives? I've never heard of that except in EXTREMELY rare instances and even then, only on television. I've never heard of it happening with someone I know. And if a gentleman was beat up by a girl, we have a legal system. So stop whining. It makes you sound like a crazy person... or a troll.
@supercutebutt Well who ever said you were being serious? No one lol. So I was joking as well. "Do you actually know any dudes who get beat up by their girlfriends or wives?" Yes I know a lot of dudes getting beaten up by their wives or girlfriends but you never heard of it. You don't hear it for a lot of reason because people like you are gonna be in denial thinking that he did something to deserve it because "women are wonderful effect" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_are_wonderful_effect without even hearing the actual story behind her violence. She can just say "he hit me first" or "he cheated" coming with any excuses as much as possible. Want facts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hrHUo70nY
@Aiko_E_Lara You are lying. You don't know "lots" of men being beat up by girls. LOL. And if you do, you may want to find a new circle of friends. You are hanging out with freaky weirdos. Now kindly stop gaslighting me. I hate that shit.
@supercutebutt And you're just gonna try to dismiss argument by saying I'm lying? While you're asking if I know any dudes who get beat up by their girlfriends or wives and there are 7.5 billion people on this planet so blow me. You know you aren't forced to stop being comfortable with your own ignorance. Like what I said, you can go and continue being a bitch without even presenting something to back up your claims. Sorry to break it to you but facts don't care about your feelings
@Aiko_E_Lara You have been reported for abusing me in this thread. That's a FACT, feelings boy. :)
@supercutebutt And yes I know lots but do you? I'm not gonna ask you for your personal experience or witnesses because that doesn't really represent the average but rather bias because of their own personal witnesses. You can make up your own stories too like saying you were raped as a child or whatever but there's something called presumption of innocence which you applied it on me. Ok I'm lying but why do I care if you think I'm lying? I already know sharing personal witness doesn't really mean shit but you asked for it didn't you?
@supercutebutt Like again go ahead and report me. You're just gonna report yourself by reporting me lol. G@G is going to look at you first.
@supercutebutt "You have been reported for abusing me in this thread. That's a FACT, feelings boy." <-- And you can't even elaborate how you yourself is being truthful lmao. That's an abuse because the facts I presented to you hurt your feelings in fact? Guess what? No one likes logic. So grow up and build a thicker skin. I thought women are strong and in depended? Why are you giving me your sullen tears? Lmao
@supercutebutt And anyways you're reporting me for a "Joke" like what you've been doing. So it's like this. It's ok for you to call them chucks but if I call you a bitch, it's an abuse? Boohoo the double standards is real 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Aiko_E_Lara How can you be upset about a word you don't even understand? "Bitch" is an insult. Why are you mad about "chucks?" What is a "chuck?" You don't even know the word I used! LOL!!! :)
@supercutebutt If you think of it that way then lets keep it that way. Feeling insulted? Well it's not my fault you're a snowflake. I never said I felt offended lol.
@Aiko_E_Lara So you get beat up by scary girls and I'm the snowflake? LOL! It sounds like I am your greatest fear.
@supercutebutt As if I don't know how to google. www.google.com/search Here you go princess
@supercutebutt Yep because you're using ad hominems AKA a cheap tactic used when egos get hurt
@supercutebutt And prove it. "i got beaten up by girls" you say. You know? You can't. You're not a psychic so stop fooling yourself
@Aiko_E_Lara Let's see if i can trigger you with your greatest fear...
@supercutebutt So lets see. You accuse me abusing you, demonstrating double standards, block me and reported me and you're saying you're not a snowflake 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Way to prove me right
@Aiko_E_Lara Haha! I have hit a nerve! Uh oh! TRIGGER WARNING! Here's another scary girl...
Another one!! LOL!!
@supercutebutt You call that scary? I've seen "scarier" girls in the closet. What else are you gonna present? The imaginary boogy man called the patriarchy?
@supercutebutt Because if you say those are "scary" then I guess they scared the crap out of you. I suggest get a rainbow night light with glittering stars for your room. Because I bought 1 for my niece to shut her up.
@Aiko_E_Lara Your poor niece :(
@supercutebutt And poor you 😂😂😂😂 You mama can't get one for ya
No sarcasm, but I hope that changed when we get them financed by the government, and have them created.
@supercutebutt Garbage human being.
@supercutebutt Why do you keep sending me cute girls? They're not getting laid sorry
The stats are only like that because men are less likely to come forward about being abuse victims and are less likely to be believed, when I got the shit beat out of me by my ex girlfriend (with a weapon btw) the cops literally laughed at me when I phoned them
@Someguynamedbob It's a common occurrence where the woman is beating up the guy and the police will come and arrest the guy just because he's a man and therefore must be in the wrong.
4 out of every 10.
Those stats are meaningless because most male abuse victims don't come forward, coz they know society will mock and punish them and even lock them up to "protect the female". I honestly hope I never fall in with an abusive partner, because I'd have no way out besides moving away to a different city in the middle of the night without so much as a goodbye. Police don't wanna know, society don't wanna know, a woman could beat ten shades of shit outta me with a tire iron and then tell the police it was "self defense" and that I "made her feel unsafe" and then BAM, I'm locked up for 20 to life.
statistically speaking, those are old stats before anyone voiced their concerns
Well, they already have women's shelters.
The only reason we need them is so men can escape the constant nagging!
No. It's to escape women who are violent.
Pftttttt... the answer is don't be a pussy. If a women gets violent with you, make her regret it. That's all.
If you're implying what I think then you would go to jail for that.
You don't go to jail for defending yourself against violence. If a woman got violent with me she would end up in the hospital and I can guarantee you she would never do it again. What kind of man puts up with violence from a woman? The only way I have any sympathy for a male who is physically abused by a woman is if he is a child or he is disabled. Any healthy adult man who lets this happen is a pussy and needs to man up, defend himself and teach her a lesson.
Or you know, you could just get them out of your life, no need to stoop to their level :P
First defend yourself, then get them out of your life.
There is really no excuse for either a man or a woman to put up with physical abuse. Any adult who is physically abused more than once is responsible for their own problem.
Yes, that too.