Thank you, man. Your input was well-worded, wise, and long winded. You make some good points as well.
GOD you're simple... I've worked for social services and you're 100% WRONG.
Yes you raised your voices. You didn't do anything thou. Men built them for you.Also a man did try to built a shelter for men... Got blocked by the government . Then committed suicide bcs of feminist harassment.
@grega239 Dude she's talking out of her ass. I have YEARS in social services and see the bullshit and lies that "domestic abuse" victims use to scam the government. I've seen men walk into homeless shelters, say they left their homes because they wanted to avoid violence with a woman and the social worker CALLS THE COPS to make sure the woman (who is still in the apartment) is ok. I've seen budget after budget after budget AFTER BUDGET get denied for having provisions for male abuse victims. Even LGBT in my city fight the city because gay men who are abused at home get NOTHING and are told to go to homeless shelters when they run away from a abusive boyfriend.In my experience it's women in power (using accusations of sexism and misogyny) that block anything related to helping male abuse victims. Don't get me started on the cops and how they do NOTHING for men who report violent women. People like BrittBratt are the ones who talk all this shit about "men don't speak up" then are the SAME PIECES OF SHIT who smash men down when they try to get help. Now... when a guy gets tired of being abused and knocks a woman's teeth out or god-forbid kills her. HERE COMES the SJWs to talk about the epidemic of violence against women. IT's disgusting.
Every male abuse victim you don't help is a man who one day will possible SNAP
Every male abuse victim you don't help is a man who one day will possibly SNAP, beat his wife to death or strangle her. THEN y'all want to play the gender card and play victim when the shit could've been avoided by helping the guy get out of the house.
In the UK if I'm not mistaken around 90% of men's shelters were shut down because of government cuts, while women's shelters remained unaffected. I can't cite this right now, I just remember reading about it from a secondary source, so my figures could be inaccurate, but I'm certain it was something to this effect.
@grega239 Does it matter who built them? The point is we got it done and got the shelters open. This is isn't competition of who can build the best.. I think most women know most construction has been made by men.
Wow look at that, you guys simple don't listen. I didn't just say it was only men's fault, I also blamed America for not caring about abused boys and men and just pretty much anyone cause we lack empathy towards each other in this country. I blame men and women for not doing enough about the physical and mental health of men but because I made men some what accountable for that, everything I said went through one ear and out the other cause all you hear and want to hear is: "it's all men's fault!".
So girls are allowed in boy scouts, but men aren't allowed in demestic abuse shelters, because ownly women are allowed. They should just open the doors to male victims. Which shelter do trans people go to? Most left wing people care a lot about the trans community, so you would think they would open their doors like they want for bathrooms. There have been attempts at getting shelters for men, but they aren't getting any funding. People think men can't get abused by women, that it is their fault or that they can take it, so shelters don't get funding. Women have an entire group (feminism) that also prevent men's groups from comming up and getting funding so it is up to feminists to make it happen. They can be really dense about men's issues. Most demestic abuse is reciprocal, so if you allow men who are abused to get help, you can help women as they won't get the shit kicked out of them if the guy finally snaps.
@nathanp97 Dude look at how she already twisted it into us "wanting" to hear it's all men's fault. THis is the SAME shit social workers do and I've seen it dozens of times.
Aah , it suddenly doesn't matter who build them. No it is a competition bcs feminists made it a competition. And like I said the government blocked a men's shelter from being built.No one cares about men. Bcs not only is that statement proven by history, There was a petition going around a few years back when I was asked to sign it to support the prevention of violence against women. There was no mention of men anywhere on that list.
bb2416 - shut up you lemon
A presentation on male suicide gets shut down by angry women thinking the men and the talk are trying to destroy women's freedoms by reinstating male privilegeIt's society's fault for starting it, but the only people who keep us from discussing the problems of being a male are women.
@Blightly: Not just any women; Tide-munching leftist NPC moron women. Who have a zero-sum fallacy view of everything in life. The reason behind all their mental gymnastics goes back to this zero-sum fallacy. They believe that *somehow*, throughout most of human history, men have held some decided advantage. And now, the only way to make things "equal" on some imaginary, infantile pie graph that they all worship with cult-like devotion, in order to make things "fair" and make themselves "righteous," is to increase rights for women. But because they are zero-sum fallacy losers, BrittBratt and others believe the "only way" to increase rights for women, is to completely destroy rights for men. So therefore, any voice for men is automagically a voice against women. Because zero-sum stupidity dominates the thought process of BrittBratt's ilk.This is how these types can lie to you out of their asses; but still be convinced in their own detergent-infested brains that they're being 100% truthful.
@ronaldo75 I didn't twist anything, it's you guys who have done the twisting. I already said what needs to be done and what needs to happen for this to be fixed but from what I'm seeing you guys just want to complain instead actually doing the work.. so im just let you do you.
"so im just let you do you." <-- We are. But do we really need to whine to get our rights? I mean even if we do, we're still seen as sexist in society. You are not equal to the average of society and the "women are wonderful effect" is how society's brain is hardwired and it's not just men who guilt trips men but also other women just because we're the "stronger sex".
The double standards, we're always the sexist when ever we voice out something so what can we do? Shut our mouths.
Ok, why do your gender's shelters get government funding and ours don't? The first time someone tried to make a shelter in Canada, he ran himself into economical ruin and hung himself in his fucking garage! He was a victim to the very thing he set out to stop! But yet, you're so ignorant.
You're shelters only succeeded because you actually got funding, you ignorant fool.
I don't think you're being quite fair. While its true that a lot of people dismiss men's concerns because they expect men to be able to take care of themselves, I really don't think it's reasonable to blame feminists for that. in fact, I think in some cases the focus on men's issues being less well addressed is exactly what you're describing the stories about abuse/assault/rape as being- just drama to try and vilify feminists. Like, these issues, both those facing men and those facing women are real and important issues, and they should both be addressed. But using them to stir up hatred toward some group that's not actually at fault (as you're doing with feminists) is completely counterproductive and makes people think that ANY focus on the issue is just anti-feminist/anti-(real) men's rights bullshit.Basically, don't be a fucking hypocrite. You're right that these issues are important, and you're right that sometimes people use stories not to raise awareness but to raise drama. BUT you're doing the exact thing that you're calling out by using a men's rights issue that needs attention as an anti-feminist talking point.
It's totally fair to blame feminism, bcs they're the ones constantly saying men don't deserve help bcs "muh historic oppression" , toxic masculinity and how privilaged men are despite the fact that men are the majority of assault and murder victims , are the majority of the homeless population , commit far more suicides and are demonized and portrayed as rapists , sexist and mysoginists by feminists.And speaking of hypocrisy. Here's a bit of feminist hypocrisy.If men are expected to take care of themselves and defend themselves, then so are women bcs we're supposed to be equal now.Yet I got called a sexist woman hater when I suggested that women should learn martial arts so they can defend themselves.
I looked through her opinion 4x to find anything pertaining to feminism... I didn't find anything.
@grega239 Toxic masculinity is LITERALLY what you're complaining about when you talk about people not taking abuse against men seriously. Toxic masculinity isn't just a behavior, it's a social expectation. It's expecting men to be more violent, more able to defend themselves, more likely to be dominant/the aggressor, and less inclined to seek help from others, among other things. Like, I'll grant that the term is maybe not named fantastically, but that is how it's used, and that is what in means in the feminist circles I see.What feminists say that men "don't deserve help"? Can you give examples please? It seems like you're straw manning pretty hard here, or possibly just taking the words of a few idiots to be the philosophy of an entire movement.
@ImagineSketchy its in the first sentence?
So easily overlook. Lol. Thought it was later in.
@cipher42 I don't necessarily believe feminism, on its own, is some evil man-hating thing. Feminism started as women wanting equal righst and we still have a long way to go as far as attaining equality and reshaping common attitudes and stereotypes about women. I was referencing something I have been seeing more and more frequently where so called feminists care less about equality and more about how awful guys are and they deserve nothing and having nothing to complain about and it's very much not true. I was talking more about the crazy radical Valerie Solanas witch-hunt type of feminism than people who genuinely love and care for other people and want true equality for all regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
It's fair to be against radicalism, it's not fair to act as though radicals represent the majority of the movement. Just like we shouldn't be against activism for men in general because some of it is coopted to rail against women/feminists, it's not useful to oppose feminism in general because some people use it as an excuse to hate men. And for the record, as someone who lives in a pretty liberal, pretty feminist area, and uses social media with a lot of feminist content, the actual "man hating" content I see is pretty few and far between, so it seems to me that it's really been blown rather out of proportion.
@cipher42 Feminism is a terrorism on men. It's as bad as being a radical muslim. This is what you support.
@ChocolateBrowny Could you explain how feminism as a whole uses violence and intimidation against men? And provide examples of this please, especially ones that demonstrate how the feminist movement as a whole endorses this.
@cipher42 I've experienced it with my own eyes in all areas of life (work, social setting, dating, living). I do not need to give you an essay about it.
@ChocolateBrowny You do need to provide evidence that something exists if you want people to believe that it does. Can you describe the situations you experienced? Anecdotes are at least something, though really I'd like to see descriptions of this kind of thing from sources other than a random person on the internet, so if you want to convince people it'd be helpful if you could also link other sources
@cipher42 go fuck yourself 🙄
@ChocolateBrowny Why? I asked nicely, for something that I don't think is unreasonable. Could you explain what your issue is with what I said?
@ChocolateBrowny Anecdotes are a form of bias and aren't reliable as evidence. So that's worth nothing.
@AuroraRoseat you can go fuck yourself too 😘
@ChocolateBrowny Nice comeback kid. :/
@cipher42 Give me examples that aren't either belittling men, telling them that they're "destroying gender norms", or anything else along those lines.
@cipher42 Cipher, you used the term toxic masculinity correctly. I commend you.
@SwordShield: Thanks. How much/where do you see people using it incorrectly? Also what is it that you want examples of?
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There needs to be more changes in our legal system for women who abuse the law to take advantage of men.
@backintown how so. false rape accusations im guessing?What does this have to do with the reason for the lack of men's shelters?
I work with homeless and in my city there are 10 homeless men for every woman. I’ve also seen plenty of homeless women who are drug addicts and alcoholics. But as for the false rape accusations. For starters bring back the lie detector tests. They have been dismissed as evidence from the legal system because in the past they have been found to be faulty. But technology has much improved since then. Second of amend the legal system to ensure that women get the exact same punishments as men for the same crimes. There have been several studies done that show women on average serve prison sentences (if they even go to jail) that are 40% shorter than men’s. They have started to get more harsh on female sex offenders (HS teachers). But extend this to other transgressions as well. As for the homeless/battered man issue. This is much more complicated. Men in general are supposed to be independent. If they screw up they are naturally on their own. Women on the other hand will be much more likely to get support before they get out on the street. I think there should be government mandated programs to make homeless do simple work (clean up litter). If they don’t do it, lock them up. I’m serious. Some parts of America are absolutely out of control.
by the way I’m experiencing a major double standard with dating and break ups right now. I broke up with my girlfriend a month ago and she threatened to kill herded right in front of me. Her grandma and I (she’s 26 but lives with them) has to call the police to detain her. This is after I very carefully planned to lay her down with gentle hands. I saw her face to face. Was honest about why I wanted to split (attraction just isn’t there). She made a scene in public. She screamed, threw things and sobbed out loud. It was something out of a HBO mini series. I can’t imagine how this would have gone down if the roles were reversed. If I yelled loudly at her people would immediately run up to us to make sure I wasn’t going to hit her. She wouldn’t tolerate me insulting her to her face. If I threatened to kill myself in front of her she would probably file a restraining order on me.
@backintown maybe women get shorter sentences than men because the circumstances and patterns of female offending are collectively and significantly different from male offending. Before you push for women to just get the same sentences as men because equality, check to see if they're getting shorter sentences because the criminal justice system is simply just sexist against men or not. There's equality and then there is equity. The same fix applied to both genders without exception can be disastrous.And just because I didn't talk about gender expectations for men as a reason for not reaching out for help doesn't mean I don't know about it. And you don't need to tell me "it's a complicated issue" like obviously it is. And I don't care about your anecdotal "what if the genders were reversed" thought experiment. It has no value
and don't call women cunts. calling them cunts just makes you a scumbag
“And I don't care about your anecdotal "what if the genders were reversed" thought experiment. It has no value”Are you sure it has no value? Feminists, civil rights leaders and LGBT activist groups have been using this for years and years and years. So when the show is on the other foot straight cis gendered Caucasian guys like myself aren’t allowed to use it?
*shoe is on the other foot. But the word “show” isn’t too bad of a typo Look it’s easy to dismiss all of us as “incels”. I know you didn’t say that (I won’t say cunt again). But have you ever wondered WHY so many of us are frustrated and pissed off about what we see going on? If feminism was really about “gender equality” then men would be benefiting too right? But we’re not. We are overly getting rear ended by society.
@backintown look, u seem some what reasonable and I'm looking for someone with contradictory views to me to pm and to get into in depth respectful discussions with. what do u say?
If u're wondering why i wanna pm it's so other people, potentially idiots, dont jump in and make the comment section all messy
"the more dangerous domestic violence like strangulation and beatings are most often perpetrated by men against women"Baseless bigoted opinion. Most mutilating permanent violence against a spouse is committed by women against men.
@NumaleSoybeans who is the bigot now bitch? connect.springerpub.com/content/sgrvv/23/3/301This article provides a review of research literature on women who use violence with intimate partners. The central purpose is to inform service providers in the military and civilian communities who work with domestically violent women. The major points of this review are as follows: (a) women’s violence usually occurs in the context of violence against them by their male partners; (b) in general, women and men perpetrate equivalent levels of physical and psychological aggression, but evidence suggests that men perpetrate sexual abuse, coercive control, and stalking more frequently than women and that women also are much more frequently injured during domestic violence incidents; (c) women and men are equally likely to initiate physical violence in relationships involving less serious “situational couple violence,” and in relationships in which serious and very violent “intimate terrorism” occurs, men are much more likely to be perpetrators and women victims; (d) women’s physical violence is more likely than men’s violence to be motivated by self-defense and fear, whereas men’s physical violence is more likely than women’s to be driven by control motives; (e) studies of couples in mutually violent relationships find more negative effects for women than for men; and (f) because of the many differences in behaviors and motivations between women’s and men’s violence, interventions based on male models of partner violence are likely not effective for many women.
That's complete feminist pseudoscience. Unsurpringly the article is written by 4 women and one cuck, and it starts out with the intro that women's violence against men is mostly self-defense and justified. What a load of crap. A Harvard study showed that women initiate 70% of spousal violence.www.health.harvard.edu/.../In_Brief_Domestic_violence_Not_always_one_sidedOf course you won't find these facts anywhere in the anti-male boohoo women are the Victims mass media.Women want these facts suppressed because they inherently see themselves as more valuable than men, similar to how a white person sees themselves more valuable than a black person, and hence want to play the perpetual victim that can only rarely do wrong. by the way explain to me why lesbian relationships have a higher rate of domestic violence that gay ones. I bet you can't, and you'll just sweep it under the rug.en.m.wikipedia.org/.../Domestic_violence" In 2011, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released the 2010 results of their National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey and report that 44% of lesbian women, 61% of bisexual women, and 35% of heterosexual women experienced domestic violence in their lifetime. This same report states that 26% of gay men, 37% of bisexual men, and 29% of heterosexual men experienced domestic violence in their lifetime."
@NumaleSoybeans You disregard my source because 4 of the authors are women, sexist much?, and a guy but he is a cuck... is a male source that states women are more abusive than men a conflict of interest too? you... fucken... can't stay it because you'll probably report me.Anyways. Maybe some of the lesbian women dated men before coming to terms with their sexuality and experienced domestic violence from men too? It said lesbian women experience domestic abuse without specifying what gender their abusers were. like some gay men may have experienced domestic abuse from a female partner before coming to terms their sexuality? without specifying the genders of the abusers it tells you very little about gender differences in domestic violence perpetratorsAre you a member of a Voice for Men by any chance?
"Maybe some of the lesbian women dated men before coming to terms with their sexuality and experienced domestic violence from men too"Wow, you're really grasping at straws aren't you? We could similarly say any straight woman that was reported to be abused may be referring to abuse any suffered at the hands of her mother decades earlier rather than a spouse. lolAnd yes female researchers do tend to peddle pseudoscience and fake stats far more often than male ones. They have a victim complex, just as you do, and will readily twist the truth and facts to satisfy their point of view. The field of gender studies is proof of that.No I'm not a member of A Voice for Men though I don't see the issue if I were.
@NumaleSoybeans I would not say that the domestic abuse in that study extends to abuse by parents. You see, I know how to read, me, a mere woman, and I know the survey is called the National INTIMATE PARTNER and Sexual Violence Survey. I know that the abuse these people experience came from intimate partners as that is the scope of the survey.And I am not "grasping at straws" to point out that the survey does not focus on specifically on violence rates in same-sex relationships. It asks participants if they have ever experienced domestic violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime. "44% of lesbian women, 61% of bisexual women, and 35% of heterosexual women experienced domestic violence in their lifetime." IN THEIR LIFETIME. not "in their same-sex relationships" and it's common knowledge that there are many gay people who have dated the opposite sex until coming to terms with their sexuality, which doesn't happen until they have reached their 40s sometimes. The survey needed to ask participants to specify the gender of their abuser. You cannot tell anything about perpetrating rates among gender from this survey. Little advice for ya mate, learn how to correctly interpret results from a survey before you embarrass yourself like this. A voice for men is a hate group, not my opinion though, they're categorized as a male supremacy group by the Southern Poverty Law Center so take it up with them if you have a problem with it.
You don't even understand basic logic. It's impossible for lesbians to have the highest rate of domestic violence among any other group due to "past straight relationships" influencing the stats while at the same claiming women have a lower rate of domestic violence. If the latter claim was true it should inherently lead to gays and straight women having higher rates than lesbians. This means it can't be true, and that women do in fact commit the majority of domestic violence.Why is AVFM a hate group? Because a feminist influenced organization claimed they are?
@NumaleSoybeans everything is a fucking conspiracy isn't it? jesus christ you are insanebisexual women have the highest rate, not lesbian women jesus christ. you literally can't fucking read. this is YOUR fucking source mate. You like that Harvard study because it says what you want it to say and you discredit mine on the basis that the authors are women plus a "cuck", a word that should only ever be used ironically. you're saying women can't do their jobs properly. that is fucking sexist. YOU are the bigot. You are so misogynistic describing women the way you to. I hope no woman dates you. You'll end up abusing her probably
@Staiby. I just followed you, but since I’m new I can’t PM people yet. But you can PM me. thanks
Yeah. I mean every demographic has their own set of problems and privileges (sadly) but I get what you're saying. I was reading this thing about domestic abuse the other day and it was an article about a female domestic abuse "survivor." When she got into the actual story, she talked about how they got into an argument, SHE punched HIM in the face, he retaliated by punching her in the face, and now demonized and left to rot in jail while she's hailed as a "trauma survivor" and gets fucking news story written about her where she's this innocent victim who did nothing wrong. That's not to mention real-life examples I've seen. I knew this girl who got mad at her boyfriend and she just went after him like slapping him and everything. He pushed her just to get her away. As you could probably guess everyone acted like he was the bad guy. After that they all talked about how "pathetic" he was and how he "wasn't a real man." It pisses me off how it's some socially acceptable and even "funny" thing for a girl to hit a guy and everyone acts like she's cool or tough or won't take shit from anybody or whatever, but a guy does it and his whole life is ruined and everyone acts like he's a worthless piece of shit. And nobody wants to talk about it because it might spark some fucking controversy what with this whole radical feminism bullshit and everyone's too much of a spineless, soulless suck up to do anything about it.
I really appreciated your comments. I think you’re seeing the problem clearly. Don’t get me wrong. There are some bad guys out there that are cruel monsters who savagely beat women. However strictly when it comes to male on female domestic violence and they’re involved in some kind of a relationship, I’ve noticed more often than not it’s the female who is the aggressor.I am in favor of speaking up about a great many things. Particularly the tyranny we se from the left in America. I’m sure someone will read what I wrote and say: “he’s a sexist and hates women.” That’s where we are in this country. Disagreement on certain issues will get you labeled as a racist, sexist etc and “victims” use these terms cart blanch without regard to facts.Now the law is the law. I do want to say that maybe, and that’s a big maybe if a woman slaps a man and gets her ass kicked, maybe she had it coming. There’s a certain principal all men know. Don’t start fights you can’t finish. If I walk up to Mike Tyson and bitch slap him should I say it’s unfair for him to kick my ass because he’s bigger and stronger and I’m not capable of defending myself against him? Or maybe should I not birch also someone who will likely pummel me? See what I’m saying? Daying women aren’t as strong and such is a lame argument. The better argument is don’t hit anyone, but if you do don’t hit someone who will floor you if they retaliate. Nobody should be hitting anyone baring true self defense anyway. Anyway I totally agree with what you said. The best way for guys to handle this is let her hit you. Turtle. Then leave her and never return. I’d tell them to call the police and have her arrested too but some women are academy award winning actresses who may lie to police once their being put in handcuffs and frame an innocent guy. It has happened before. Usually police are pretty good at determining what really happened but they can be fooled like anyone else so for that reason it’s just not worth it for a
Guy to call. Better to turtle up and then leave and never have anything to do with that person again.
Also I don’t believe any demographic has privileges. Equality is a false god. There will never be equality because everyone has different heights and weights and abilities and talents. No 2 people are the same. I don’t see white people complaining about loosing out on pro sports opportunities to blacks due to fast twitch muscle fiber.
'Cause men are way stronger than women. A punch from man can cause way more damage even kill hee than a puch from a woman. A many is seven physically stronger than woman. That is why it is clever idea to hit back. I am not saying abuse against men is ok but you have to consider this
***'Cause men are way stronger than women. A punch from a man can cause way more damage even kill her than a puch from a woman. A man is seven physically stronger than a woman. That is why it is not a good idea to hit back. I am not saying abuse against men is ok but you have to consider this
I think don’t hit if you don’t want to be hit.As a man of a guy way smaller and weaker than me punches me I’m going to floor him regardless.Mess with the bull you get the horns.My point is women always go to that argument about being weaker but maybe they should have a different mind set. The mind set of “I’m not going to rely on a societal double standard so I’m not going to hit anyone as I don’t want to be hit in return.”
Same men think it is ok for men to sleep around but if a woman do it, she is a slut. That is douple standard. I thought men and women are different and not the same?
They are different and neither is ok.
Oh ok then. I am sorry then for thinking you are hypocritical
2 shelters in the U. S. obviously not enough. We are forgetting male against male domestic cases too beside abusive female partners.
Thank you for understanding my view.
It is also another thing that these shelters are unfunded by the government.
Bro, you make good points, but ONE SHELTER isn't enough.
You are BEYOND stupid and ignorant.
Sure, but at least I dont lack masculinity
These dudes are mad soft. They wanna be treated like women.
i hope someday you get into the situation where you need to defend yourself against an abusive woman. if you talk back to that woman she'll physically attack you and if you don't take that beating and actually fight back then you'll have law enforcement tearing your azz apart. i would like to see how masculine you'll be then
@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Yeah, they dont understand what it takes to be men. They will suffer because of it. Thats on them.
Yep. They gonna find out the hard way.
Dude, you don't even know what you're talking about.
Sucks that it's not government funded either.
You will never see government funded programs for average men who are suffering. Unlike women we are not valued if we just breathe air. We are not special. We are dispensable. Truth is I would be okay with that if feminists would just STFU.
Oh! Wow! Women trying to run them over and stab them? "Be less sexist."
Are you green lighting male abuse?
I don't think she is, I think she's explaining what she thinks about the women only shelter society. She does not like it
Correction, it doesn't get *reported* enough. Because you have to consider who writes the headlines, and the dumbass excuses they give for leaving stories out. I used to work in TV news. The bullshit excuses for censoring stories are endless.
They don't address that on the news immediately. If a man gets abused in a relationship, everyone will assume he did something to deserve it because being bias towards women is how society's brain is hardwired. And forget about defending himself. He can get charged for assault for that. There are chances that a woman in abuse shelters are victims of self defense while their husbands get sued.
Yeah guys are dangerous out on the town
Actually statically men are more likely to be violently attacked than women
I think this is about rape and sexual assault...
@leahzrc I've believe women are more likely to commit sexual assault and it's because society allows them to do it.
@leahzrc And we're not talking about rape and assault here.
@leahzrc We're talking about the lack of male shelters to protect them.
Anonymous, were talking about domestic here.
statistically men are most of the victims of violent crimes. yes a woman would be raped but a man would be murdered.
The majority of assault victims are men. Bcs in case you haven't noticed , men get into fights way more than women...
Look, im not trying to downplay the issues with men and lack of help, im just mentioning the issues that i personally have experienced. I don't know where you guys are from but in philly, women are like prey. The men have more power physically and mentally. I think that women are more likely to fear the possibility of being assaulted. Men get sexually assaulted, and it's not something they fear could happen to them anytime or anywhere. Yes women can get away with it, but honestly, I believe wholeheartedly that most women are more in fear for themselves than woman who assault men and get away with it. Men are used just the same as women, in different ways, but it's a nightmare no matter the victim. In terms of violence, I think that men are more likely to commit the violence and that woman are more likely to get away with the violence. Its just an inbalance, but no gender has it worse than the other. If we recognize that it's not an argument about who has it worse, then we can recgonize that we all have it worse by fighting over who actually has it worse
@grega239 are the statistics being talked about here just about who is the victim of violent crime, or about who is the victim of random, unprovoked violent crime? Because the fact that men get into more violent alterations doesn't really have a bearing on who is more likely to be attacked on the street out of nowhere.